Oz wins the GOP nomination
McCormick concedes and Dr. Oz will be the GOP nominee in the Senate race in Pennsylvania.
Meanwhile, Oz’s Democratic opponent Fetterman has been the subject of a lot of rumors that he’s had more health problems than previously disclosed. Now Fetterman admits that is the case:
Fetterman provided a timeline of his health issues – and lapses in caring for them – in his statement. “Back in 2017, I had swollen feet and went to the hospital to get checked out,” Fetterman said. “That’s when I learned I had a heart condition. Then, I didn’t follow up.”
“I thought losing weight and exercising would be enough,” Fetterman continued. “Of course it wasn’t.”
“I want to emphasize that this was completely preventable. My cardiologist said that if I had continued taking the blood thinners, I never would have had a stroke. I didn’t do what the doctor told me,” Fetterman also said.
Fetterman said he wouldn’t make the same mistake again and is following his physicians’ advice to rest and focus on recovery.
I don’t think the main problem is Fetterman’s health; apparently he should be okay now. The problem is that he didn’t disclose the information and it was basically forced out of him because some of the details he did release didn’t quite make sense and people began to question whether he was withholding something.
And then I began to wonder what sort of doctor Mehmet Oz, Fetterman’s opponent, was before he retired and became a TV personality and now a politician. He was a cardiothoracic surgeon. I wonder whether he will address Fetterman’s health issues during the campaign.
The Democrat has congestive heart failure-CHF- unless his ankle swelling was due to poor venous return. He has also had a stroke so medically he is a very poor candidate for representative office.
Oz still has dual US+Turkey citizenship. There should not be a Senator with more than US citizenship. We really know nothing about his surgical skills and results, but as a human being I find him intolerable. His TV posturings were revolting. He was indulging in self- promotion all along. Too bad Trump endorsed him; it takes Trump down another notch.
Oz is a Muslim.
Pennsylvania will be poorly served by either candidate.
Cicero:
I’m not keen on either of them, but I don’t live in Pennsylvania. If I did, I’d be voting for Oz as the lesser evil and a way to help wrest Senate control from the Democrats.
Am in Pa, stated I wouldn’t fill out a PA Senate vote, hate a duel citizenship, carpetbagger and dubious conservative is my candidate.
Opinions can change so will see.
Evidently, the swelling incident was about five years ago, so I doubt he’s got congestive heart failure.
He’s an eccentric and rather puzzling figure. I tend to doubt it would be in Oz interest to make much of his heart and circulatory problems.
Oz says he’ll give up his Turkish citizenship if he wins the Senate seat. He should be held to that. In fact, he should give it up now.
Pennsylvania is doomed, thanks Trump you knucklehead.
The corruption in the 2020 election can’t be undone, the PA Supreme Court overrode clear legislative intent with the encouragement of Tom Wolf and his appointed Secretary of State, the GOP legislators fell into a stupid trap with the revised voting rules, could never outwit a Wolf veto and the Supreme Court’s perfidy.
That fiasco led directly to the rise of Doug Mastrianno’s candidacy, while the party couldn’t clear the field of multiple governor candidates so they split the vote enough ways for Mastrianno to win. He can’t win the general election even if the GOP has a record year, and in the slim event he could win, he’s not fit to govern. What a mess, Josh Shapiro is a shoe-in, and he’s one of the most ruthlessly ambitious lefty Democrats in the country.
Without Trump’s stirring the pot over 2020 election to the extent he has, Mastrianno would not have emerged.
And Trump’s endorsement of Oz is clearly the only reason he squeaked out a narrow win over a far superior McCormick who actually has Pennsylvania roots.
The Mastrianno loss in November will be so bad it will drag down the whole GOP ticket, probably including a couple of congressional seats as well as state House and Senate seats, and may well let Fetterman trample Oz as well. Even if Oz does win, I’m not sure we will be any better off than with Fetterman, who may be an ultra Progressive loon, but he is also a maverick who will not play nicely with the Democratic party elites.
Pennsylvania is not doomed, and it’s only one state.
Now I will yield to no one on my contempt for GOP election legislation and litigation. The Democrats have a deep bench, pay for annual training, and are ready to go every time. The Republicans are amateurs, and it shows, as it seems every time they appoint some celebrity lawyer with no election experience.
Rudy Guilianni is an over-the-hill drunk. Trump damn well should have known this. Lin Wood has zero experience. Sidney Powell may be a good defense attorney, but she knew nothing about election law and didn’t have the weight to shove Guiliani to the back.
In the Al Franken-Norm Coleman recount in Minnesota, the Republicans appointed a prominent local trial lawyer whose advice was for the Republicans to not be contentious during the recount. By the time this foolish mistake was corrected, Franken’s winning margin was already assured.
There should have been a lawyer in the room who knew perfectly well that there is no way to litigate ballots back out of the box. The election wasn’t stolen early in the morning of November 5. It was stolen when the Democrats steamrollered the whole mail in-drop box process into place.
Paper ballots. With ID. On election day. No computer counts. No equipment that cannot be audited. Cheating is prosecuted as serious felony.
Art Deco:
CHF, well-managed , is not incompatible with possible ten-year survival.
Oz is an obscene manipulator and bullshitter. He is a disgrace to his and my profession. Reading Wiki on him is most revealing.
Sure, he’ll renounce his Turkish citizenship IF elected to the world’s foremost deliberative body, but he remains a Muslim and a fraud. I would vote for his opponent also.
Cicero:
So, let me get this straight: you would vote for the Democrat to be elected to the Senate, which could cause the Democrats to retain control of the Senate, keep Schumer in power, and possibly give them the chance to end the filibuster, pass HR1, welcome DC and Puerto Rico as states, pack the Court, and ensure permanent power for the left?
Mindboggling.
” I don’t live in Pennsylvania. If I did, I’d be voting for Oz as the lesser evil and a way to help wrest Senate control from the Democrats.” neo
Even though Oz is the lesser evil, he’s not going to support conservative reforms.
And America continues its slow march to the gallows.
Geoffrey Britain:
I assume that he’s not going to be a conservative. He’s given lip service to it, but whether he actually would follow through or not I don’t know, and I tend to doubt it.
I felt the same about Trump and I was wrong, by the way.
However, that’s not the point for me and I certainly wouldn’t be voting for him because I was relying on him supporting conservative reforms. I would be voting for him for the reasons I described in the comment I wrote to Cicero right above yours, at 9:55 PM.
Fetterman is chaotic evil, but is oz really going to be anything
Am I missing something? Aren’t “cardiac myopathy,” “cardiomyopathy,” “heart pump problems,” and “congestive heart failure” all the same thing? Five years ago Fetterman saw a cardiologist who perceived his swollen ankles and diagnosed “heart pump problems,” as he put it in the press release. That’s something that can progress quickly or slowly, I guess, and can often improve with medication, diet, and exercise, but it’s not a minor health quibble.
Fetterman now properly acknowledges that he was playing Iron Man in refusing to see a doctor for five years, and that he “almost died.”
On the other hand, Fetterman did finally film a short ad, so everyone can see that he’s speaking normally and appears to have suffered no awful effects from his stroke. I was really beginning to wonder what was keeping him from going on camera for such a long time.
Neo: I assume that he’s not going to be a conservative. He’s given lip service to it, but whether he actually would follow through or not I don’t know, and I tend to doubt it.
I felt the same about Trump and I was wrong, by the way.
Agree on both points. John McCain was a petty shit for his entire Senate career. But he caucused with the Republicans, and that matters a whole lot.
I was amazed the whole four years of Trump. It was like he sat down and read the Republican platform and decided to try to implement it.
@ Gordon > “I was amazed the whole four years of Trump. It was like he sat down and read the Republican platform and decided to try to implement it.”
It may actually have helped that he wasn’t a long-time Republican, and so, having suddenly been established as Head of the Party, he acted on what he thought was the Party Line, rather than performing the usual ritual that the establishment GOP has perfected, of promising things they can’t, or more likely won’t, deliver.
The Mastrianno loss in November will be so bad it will drag down the whole GOP ticket,
Pennsylvania would be well served if every candidate you favor were blown out of office.
Am I missing something? Aren’t “cardiac myopathy,” “cardiomyopathy,” “heart pump problems,” and “congestive heart failure” all the same thing?
Don’t believe so.
If you have a diagnosis of congestive heart failure, your life expectancy is about five years. At 48, he would have been rather young for that, although he was morbidly obese at the time. (By his account). Some people recover from congestive heart failure, but I do not believe that’s the mode.
It is rather odd that he undertook a fitness program (he says) but hasn’t seen a doctor in five years. He’s odd in other ways as well. You read about him and you keep wondering what the 10th planet is.
Oz says he’ll give up his Turkish citizenship if he wins the Senate seat. He should be held to that. In fact, he should give it up now.
I’ll wager if you research the matter you’d discover that dual citizenship was something sneaked into law by our odious federal judiciary. I don’t believe it ever had statutory authorization. You might be able to justify it among a subset of the Commonwealth countries, but otherwise it’s a species of polygamy. And polygamy is always a bad idea.
I think Trump actually learned things as he campaigned in 2015-2016, and in office. Whether Oz will pay more than lip service to conservatism remains to be seen, but he will caucus with Republicans and hand control of the Senate to them, which is something useful.
Whether Oz will pay more than lip service to conservatism remains to be seen, but he will caucus with Republicans and hand control of the Senate to them, which is something useful.
I think the American Conservative Union will tell you that Lizard Cheney has a sterling voting record. It just happens to be trumped by a loyalty to the swamp so thorough she’s willing to propagate arrant nonsense on behalf of Nancy Pelosi. John McCain had a satisfactory voting record as well; it just so happened that he picked the most inopportune times to throw sand in the gears and gave evidence of despising his voters. Elise Stefanik is much more of a dissenter on policy than either one of them, but she’s not interested in making herself a cog in the Democratic Party’s publicity machine.
Neo:
I do not trust Oz as anything other than a rank opportunist and bullshitter. And one Senate seat more or less being critical means to me that you think the rapacious, evil Dems will do better in the 2022 election than most of us expect and hope.
“Paper ballots. With ID. On election day. No computer counts. No equipment that cannot be audited. Cheating is prosecuted as serious felony.”
This.
GOP Oz (OX was first typo) over any Dem, for now. But I’m registered in CA, absentee voting from SVK.
Trump’s endorsement got Oz the GOP win – is pretty strong anti- “Islamophobia” (anti-anti-Muslim). The Dems will claim it, anyway, and all other PC-phobias, but for thinking people it becomes a more obvious partisan attack.
For good and ill, GOP voters are becoming Trump – followers, tho not blindly.
Cicero:
I don’t know what will happen in November in the Senate elections – it’s a long way off and many things can happen.
But I also think the GOP needs more than 51 senators to make sure of much of anything. Some of the GOP senators vote with the Democrats on occasion, so some padding is need. Plus, even if Oz were to be one of those people who vote with the Democrats, he still is a Republican and would almost certainly be caucusing with the Republicans, which would allow them to set the agenda as the majority party. That is very important as well.
Art Deco:
I have 2 contemporaries who were diagnosed with congestive heart failure 15-20 years ago. They are both still going strong. I don’t know whether they still have that diagnosis, but they are not obviously affected although they do take medication.
Senators– yes, we need as many as we can get. Never know when a narcissistic itch will pop up & pull a McCain.
I’d vote for Oz, with prayers & fingers crossed that he is
honorable.
Also: I, like others here, am 100% against dual citizenship. Quite treasonous, IMHO.
I favor dual citizenship – but for private people, NOT elected politicians.
Oz did make a (classy) statement regarding Fetterman’s health situation that referenced his own background as a cardiac specialist:
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/fetterman-admits-avoided-heart-treatment-232940115.html?fr=sycsrp_catchall
I do wonder if/how Oz might bring it up again during the course of their campaign against each other.
Also, FWIW, I live just a few miles from the devastated former steel town of Braddock, PA, where Fetterman was elected mayor in 2006 and served for 13 years. No doubt he has always had his eyes on a bigger political prize, but I have nothing but respect for Fetterman’s effective leadership of that distressed community and willingness to raise his family there. He is quirky, yes, but also sincere and dedicated IMO. That said, as a “changer” I’ll be voting (reluctantly) for his challenger Oz. I’m not convinced of Oz’ sincerity on a number of issues I care about, but (as per usual) have to go with the lesser of two evils.