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Open thread 5/26/22 — 21 Comments

  1. Over the past 30 years or so we’ve been able to get a rough idea about how other solar systems are arranged. And it seems like our solar system is fairly unusual when compared to other systems. For one thing, our solar system seems to lack intermediate sized planets. We have the 3 small rocky planets of the inner solar system and the asteroid belt. And we have the giants. But so far it appears that most other solar systems have so called “super earths” or “mini Neptunes”, which are essentially planets that are between Earth and Neptune in size.

    It’s possible that our solar system did have intermediate sized planets at one time early on that were either ejected or devoured by the giant planets. Uranus orbits on its side and there’s speculation that this may be due to a massive collision by a very large body early on in the solar system’s history.

  2. While we’re at it, this is the dame Kevin McCarthy regrets having to eject from the House Republican leadership. George W. Bush has contributed to her re-election campaign:

    https://twitter.com/Liz_Cheney/status/1526159124840558592

    One thing the last few years have taught us is that these people were never on our side. They saw us as marks to be milked for contributions and votes.

  3. Over the past 30 years or so we’ve been able to get a rough idea about how other solar systems are arranged. And it seems like our solar system is fairly unusual when compared to other systems.

    When I took one of my early calculus courses in college, they did a fair bit a mathematical physics to demonstrate the math, including Keppler’s laws. I remember thinking, “Why are the solar system orbits so circular?” Mercury has a little ellipticity. Many of these recently discovered exoplanets have very elliptical orbits.

  4. We can hope that Wyoming voters will reject this non-Wyoming person. A vacation home in Jackson and a lifetime in Washington make her essentially an alien to her constituents.

  5. Just returned from the Conservatism Conference in Jerusalem. It was stimulating, affirming, and fun! Among the speakers were Victor Davis Hanson, Caroline Glick, and David Friedman. Plus a lot of local people who wouldn’t be known outside of Israel.
    One interesting sociological phenomenon is that during the breaks there were lines outside the men’s bathrooms and no lines for the women’s. Highly unusual. There were plenty of women at the conference, but they must have been outnumbered by the men.

  6. Ilana, at least since it was a conservative conference the men weren’t using your bathrooms!

  7. News this morning that the police force in Ulvade, Texas did not enter the school building for forty minutes to an hour. Can you imagine the agony for parents outside hearing gun shots? Reportedly, some parents were arrested to prevent them from breaking into the building to save their children.

  8. Cap’n Rusty:

    That information doesn’t mean much without knowing why they didn’t enter. Was there a good reason not to do so? Or was there a bad reason?

  9. It looks like they were waiting for the first tac unit to reach the scene with an armored shield. It happened to be Border Patrol. They unlocked the door and went in behind the shield and ended it.

  10. I am not a parent but I can understand the parents wanting to go in. They would not have saved their children because they were gone by then, and they would have been killed too.
    I will wait and see about the cops actions. A lot of emotions right now, and nothing is really clear.

  11. I may be boring everyone here with my postings about UFOs. Why, then, am I posting them?

    Well, I happen to think that the evidence is starting to accumulate that there are actual Aliens, and that we have been and are being visited and surveilled by them and, if I am correct in my belief, this truly changes everything.

    Now, why would I think that UFOs are real?

    Well, as I see it, there are several very persuasive pieces of data.

    1. Lou Elizondo, given whose background I believe, and former head of the government’s AATIP program, has said on numerous occasions that some UFOs have been clocked at speeds in excess of 10,000 miles per hour, with some clocked as high as 13,000 mph. Elizondo, who should know, points out that the fastest aircraft the U.S. has has a top speed of 3,200 mph and, moreover, that at that that extreme speed–in the cold, high altitudes it typically operates at–this aircraft’s engine temperature has to run at 900 degrees, and it’s titanium skin is so hot from friction that it is in danger of melting.

    2. Elizondo has also stated that the abrupt 90 degree turns that are characteristic of UFOs have been calculated to generate G forces of 600 Gs to as high as 900 Gs. By way of comparison, Elizondo notes that U.S. current front line fighter aircraft start to disintegrate at anything above 15 Gs. Moreover, that even specially G-suited pilots can only withstand G forces of 9 Gs before blacking out and suffering injury. Who or what can withstand 600 or 900 Gs?

    3. In 2017 the USS Princeton’s AN/SPY-1 Radar spotted a TIC TAC UFO at an altitude of 80,000 feet—on the edge of space—then, plunging down to sea level in less than a second. A feat that no human aircraft is anywhere near capable of. Moreover, I recall Elizondo saying something about the energy needed to accomplish this feat being calculated to be the equivalent of amount of energy used by all of New York city in a year.

    4. In addition to their incredible speeds, and abrupt 90 degree turns, UFOs have also been observed hovering for long periods of time and against the wind, yet, have no wings, no control surfaces, no apparent propulsion system or engine exhaust. Nothing in any human inventory can do this.

    5. As for the idea that these UFOs could be adversarial craft—that the Russians or Chinese could have made incredible technological breakthroughs–Elizondo points out that UFOs with the same general descriptions and maneuvers/operating characteristics were seen back in the 1950s, when every country’s technology was pretty primitive, very much inferior to what is available to them today.

    6. Then, there is the well known, incident at Malmstom AFB in Montana, in March of 1967, in which a hovering UFO deactivated—one by one–ten U.S. Nuclear Minuteman missiles. FOIA requests have resulted in the production of formerly classified Air Force communications about this incident, which left Air Force officials “gravely concerned,” and the Air Force Launch Officer down in the command capsule during this incident, Captain Robert Salas, has been interviewed, and made many appearances on TV and at Conferences over the last 25 years, in which he has described this incident in detail.

    Taken in total, I find these points very persuasive for the idea that these “unknown” UFOs demonstrate technology that is hundreds, likely thousands of years in advance of anything we have here on Earth i.e. that they are of Alien origin.

    Now, what motivates those operating these UFOs, and what might they want?

    That, is a whole other kettle of fish.

  12. “Now, what motivates….”

    Curiosity? Alien-voyeurs?

    Hmmm. Maybe, but they’re probably just doing it for the laughs.

    (That is, the entertainment value of the “Holy-Lord–of-the-Universe-what-will-those-goshdarn-humans-do-next?” variety.)

    …Though it could also be for the sex (or at least the “idea” of it; or the theory;…or the potential?). Never discount that angle…since “Follow the money” is probably not all that relevant in their case….

    Or maybe they’re just waxing nostalgiac for the culture they may have been several good eons ago…

    Ah, nostalgia…–“The good ole light-days…”

  13. …Astonishingly, CNN has instantaneously transformed itself into being the cutting edge of credibility!

    “Israeli Forces Murdered Star Al Jazeera Journalist: CNN”—
    https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/israeli-forces-murdered-star-al-jazeera-journalist-cnn
    (Ah, but can you spot what’s missing from CNN’s “painstaking” research? Shouldn’t be too, too difficult…)

    Alas, Col. Richard Kemp is not all that impressed…(but then who really might care what HE thinks….)
    “Col. Richard Kemp: Nothing in CNN report proves IDF killed journalist;
    “Former commander of British forces in Afghanistan accuses CNN of irresponsibility, ‘flimsy’ reporting on death of Al Jazeera journalist.”—
    https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/328277

    Meanwhile, the Palestinians—not used to being left behind—add a new wrinkle of their own to the tragedy!
    “PA probe claims IDF deliberately shot journalist as she fled…”
    https://www.timesofisrael.com/pa-probe-claims-idf-deliberately-shot-journalist-as-she-fled-israel-a-blatant-lie/
    (Presumably, then, the helmeted reporter was running TOWARD Israeli troops. Yes, it all begins to make sense…)

    The furies have been released and are madly circling…
    “Gazans said to ready rockets, Israelis prepare shelters ahead of Jerusalem Day march”—
    https://www.timesofisrael.com/gazans-said-to-ready-rockets-israelis-prepare-shelters-ahead-of-jerusalem-day-march/
    …as Palestinians are getting weary of it all…
    “Palestinians: A Vote to Destroy Israel”—
    https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/18553/palestinian-vote-destroy-israel

    And…”Biden” has decided that now’s the time to—once again—unleash “his” extraordinary sense of humor!
    “Biden Takes Blind Sheikh’s Terror Group Off Terror List”—
    https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/18554/gamaat-islamiya-terror-list

  14. RE: UFOs

    It appears that the easiest, least costly, and most efficient and effective way Aliens might want to survey other solar systems–in fact our whole Galaxy–is not to send out manned missions but, rather, to send out “Von Neumann machines”–AI-directed, self-replicating, robot probes.

    At unrelativistic speeds, such a probe might take quite awhile to travel from one solar system to another, but perhaps a civilization which chooses this particular mode of exploration might be composed of what–by comparison with us humans–would be very long-lived entities, for whom such a wait is a negligible amount of time.

    Such a Von Neumann probe arrives at a new solar system, makes copies of itself using the raw materials found in that solar system, a probe or probes are left behind in that solar system to make observations and report home, and the rest of the duplicate probes radiate outward, aimed at the next likely solar systems.

    Recently, as does Harvard Astronomer Avi Loeb, I’ve started to wonder if it is possible that there is a Alien Von Neumann probe or two—maybe several of them, lurking around in our Solar system, observing what goes on here on Earth, and the actions of our quarrelsome but perhaps interesting species.

  15. Snow on Pine, speaking for myself I usually don’t read your UFO posts, as I don’t have the interest and enthusiasm for the subject which you obviously do. I did read your two posts in this thread, they were less granular than usual.

    My opinion is that UFOs are supernatural, possibly demonic. I have no evidence for this, but you have no evidence that can disprove it. (I know one cannot prove a negative.) Are you a materialist, or do you admit the possibility of me being right?

    With all the obvious, concrete issues that face us, I am dubious of the utility of focusing on this subject. If these are advanced alien intelligences surveilling us, what possible constructive action could we take in regard to them?

    I don’t mean to criticize your attention to this subject. Your posts certainly add the spice of variety to the comments. (I was a sci-fi buff in my youth, but now my interest in space is mostly confined to trying to catch a glimpse of the ISS as alerted by emails from NASA’s Spot the Station website.)

  16. I thought this story might be of some interest to the “Guys, the Iraq War was really great!” dead-enders around here:

    BAGHDAD (AP) – Iraqi lawmakers on Thursday passed a bill criminalizing normalization of ties and any relations, including business ties, with Israel. The legislation says that violation of the law is punishable with the death sentence or life imprisonment.

    The law was approved with 275 lawmakers voting in favor of it in the 329-seat assembly. A parliament statement said the legislation is “a true reflection of the will of the people.”

    Influential Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr, whose party won the largest number of seats in Iraq’s parliamentary elections last year, called for Iraqis to take to the streets to celebrate this “”great achievement.” Hundreds later gathered in central Baghdad, chanting anti-Israel slogans.

    It was unclear how the law will be implemented as Iraq has not recognized Israel since the country’s formation in 1948; the two nations have no diplomatic relations. The legislation also entails risks for companies working in Iraq and found to be in violation of the bill.

    The United States said it was deeply disturbed by the Iraqi legislation. “In addition to jeopardizing freedom of expression and promoting an environment of antisemitism, this legislation stands in stark contrast to progress Iraq’s neighbors have made by building bridges and normalizing relations with Israel, creating new opportunities for people throughout the region,” State Department spokesperson Ned Price said in a statement.

    Earlier this year, Iran fired a dozen ballistic missiles towards the northern city of Irbil in the Kurdish-run north, saying it was targeting an Israeli intelligence base.

    The home of Baz Karim, the CEO of the oil company KAR GROUP, was heavily damaged in the attack. KAR has been accused in the past of quietly selling oil to Israel.

    A report by the Iraqi parliament’s fact-finding committee said it found no evidence to support Iranian accusations of an Israeli spy base in Irbil.

    Mike

  17. “The United States said it was deeply disturbed by the Iraqi legislation.”

    Can’t wait for Iraq to declare how “deeply disturbed” it is by the tsunami of destructive policies initiated and foisted upon the US by the current usurpers in the WH….

  18. https://spectator.sme.sk/c/22915116/news-digest-slovakia-pays-for-russian-gas-in-euros.html?ref=njctse
    News from Slovakia:
    News digest: Slovakia pays for Russian gas in euros
    Slovakia pays in Euros to a Gazprom based bank, which converts it to rubles; so Putin’s law (all pay in rubles) is true as is Slovaks pay in Euros. Money is money.

    A doctor filed lawsuits against MPs spreading lies about him. Some MPs implied that a pro-vax doctor was responsible for the death of a boy whose doctor (somebody) else refused to treat because the mother was unvacinated.

    Government-approved anti-inflation help might not get support.
    A “coalition” gov’t between bigger gov’t spenders and those favoring responsible policies. When such disagreements are too big, the gov’t falls, and we need new elections. Happens a lot in Israel & Italy; less so, but still more often than most folks like, in Slovakia.

    ?ítajte viac: << read more 🙂
    https://spectator.sme.sk/c/22921413/news-digest-border-tailback-eases-after-agreement-on-cars-taken-to-ukraine.html

    Border tailback eases after agreement on cars taken to Ukraine
    Lots of Ukrainians are buying cars in Slovakia, and driving them back to Ukraine. One estimate of 500,000 cars destroyed by the war, so far.
    I haven’t read of this issue before, or elsewhere.

    Cheaper fuel not in sight as coalition fights. More coalition arguments.

    Scientist delves into black hole pic.
    As mentioned before, the great pictures of Sgt A*. The video included shows, over 20 years, stars orbiting the black hole.
    Very interesting, one or two videos at a time – but not the kind of rabbit hole I want to dive into.

    The picture shows works of students from the Department of clothing design of the School of Art Industry in Tren?ín.

    Cool picture of student clothes designers and some creations on dummies.
    (Reminding me of “Night of the Crash Test Dummies”.)

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