Well, it seems like Roman roads have lasted longer than Canada’s Charter of Rights and Freedoms – Ottawa police have arrested protesters to clear out the Parliament Hill area.
In some cases the media have been threatened with arrest unless they, also, stay out of the “zone.” The authorities have told the press that they will be given media opportunities later.
Do they not realize how tone deaf all this makes them?
Or is it really a case of the narrative of these truckers are fringe right-wingers who are also armed and dangerous while flying Nazi and US confederate flags is working?
Many years ago in the Yorkshire Dales my Wife and I walked out into a pasture with the cows and strolled along the remains of a Roman Road. It was amazing. Had water channels to funnel the water off the Road. And yes it was straight. There are Roman Road buried under current roads in the UK.
I saw the remains of a Roman road at Philippi, Macedonia.
Pretty impressive to me to think that the Apostle Paul travelled down that very road, since the Book of Acts speaks of Paul and his companions traveling from Neapolis ( modern Kavala) to Philippi and then passing thru Amphipolis. Acts chapters 16 and 17.
The negative comparisons to the longevity of modern American highways is nowhere near accurate. Not to take away from the very real accomplishment that the ancient Roman roads were, but I believe that if you ran a few hundred 40 ton semi rigs and thousands of 2 ton automobiles up and down the ancient Appian Way every day, it wouldn’t last near as long as a modern interstate.
The top of our city where the historic townhall is located is paved with rectangular stones. When my husband and I first visited in winter, we stayed at a hotel up from the townhall. I vowed never to wear high heels again. Just a bit of snow or rain and you kill yourself if you slip. Now the city has parking garages and elevators to get people from the bottom of the city with its asphalt streets up to the top.
Here is an article about the excavation of Ermine Street, a Roman road that ran from London to York and Lincoln. It was built between 43 and 81 AD:
Ermine Street gave its name to the Ermine Street Guard, a British living history and Roman reenactment group founded in 1972. The Guard is noted for its perfectionism in the accuracy of its weapons and equipment, made by hand using the same tools and methods used by the Roman army. Here is a short (8 min.) documentary about the Guard made by the University of Portsmouth:
A few years ago I read a kindel novel about a Roman Soldier and the author used meters as the distances they travel each day. I emailed the author and told him that the Romans used miles and mile markers and it was the goofy Frog French that came up with that meter crap a whole lot later in 1793. He emailed back and thanked me and said he really messed that up in his book.
In the fall of 1963 in my Bible class, required at the time at my college, the professor told us that the rapid spread of the Gospel could not have occurred without the incredible Roman road system, he explained that is was a God thing with the timing that the roads existed and were that good. A few years later visiting Rome I saw part of the Appian way and I was awe struck with walking on a road over two thousand years old.
charles: “is it really a case of the narrative of these truckers are fringe right-wingers who are also armed and dangerous while flying Nazi and US confederate flags is working?”
I read that MSM polling shows 2:1 support for Turdeau. Perhaps 1/3 support truckers, 1/3 support Woke Dictatorship and 1/3 wringing their hands fearful of conflict.
Or maybe MSM is lying.
Your call.
I read that MSM polling shows 2:1 support for Turdeau.
The polling I’ve seen is all over the place, maybe because pollsters these days are grifters with sh!tty sampling frames.
I read that MSM polling shows 2:1 support for Turdeau. Perhaps 1/3 support truckers, 1/3 support Woke Dictatorship and 1/3 wringing their hands fearful of conflict.
Or maybe MSM is lying.
Maybe. On the other hand Canadians have always been a comparatively compliant, community minded, by and large conflict avoidant, and /or obedient people.
Yeah, Quebec separatists, and Metis stuff, but that is a question of culture conflicts and pie division, not matters of citizen to state relations or personal rights and liberties.
As a population, they are self-selected for those very attributes of passivity and go-alongness..
I once heard, and I swear to Gaia it is accurate, a Canadiam male on a Canadian call in show where the topic was the (notorious) emerging failures in their health care system and the resultant MRI backups and so forth.
His observation was that although the system might result in some people being denied some treatments and cures, from his perspective the most important thing was that they all shared the same system and (to his mind at least, I suppose) had the same care or lack thereof.
” All same same, all together, no one out of queue, no one out of step. Feels so nice being nice together like this doesn’t it? Giggle giggle. What has freedom got on this!! “
The Canadians have been constructing this Moloch for generations. Why would most of them turn on him now?
I don’t understand how anyone could possibly support Trudeau, and look themselves in a mirror ever again.
I once heard, and I swear to Gaia it is accurate, a Canadiam male on a Canadian call in show where the topic was the (notorious) emerging failures in their health care system and the resultant MRI backups and so forth.
You doubtless know that Canadians who can afford it travel southward to clinics and hospitals in the U.S. After retiring to Vermont, my grad school advisor went to Dartmouth-Hitchcock Medical Center for routine health care. He told me that it wasn’t unusual to see more cars with Canadian tags in the patient parking lot than cars with U.S. tags.
Saagar Enjeti made a very good point on his show with Krystal Ball. He pointed out that scene in “The Newsroom” which echoed the old U.S. lefty canard about how freedom isn’t what makes America great. “Europe is free! Canada is free!” they say.
Well, Canadians are getting a good lesson today that they are, in fact, NOT as free as American citizens.
Mike
When are you going to do something about your vastly out of date blogroll, Neo?
The video basically makes that same point – that modern highways have to take far more punishment.
Marisa:
Once is enough. At this point you are becoming a troll. Please stop or you’ll lose commenting privileges here.
I will do it when I choose to do it and when I have the time and inclination.
neo,
I’m obstinate enough that I would refuse to do it just because. Maybe even add a couple more bad links.
Probably another reason I could never do what you do.
An interesting video. I twitched a bit when the narrator started out by describing the Roman roads as “…conduits of trade…” but then he correctly emphasized their primary purpose: to permit the rapid movement of Imperial armies and messengers. I don’t doubt that traders took advantage of the Roman road system but much more trade moved via water. To take but one example, the Romans found it cheaper to important grain from Egypt by ship (down the Nile, across the Mediterranean and up the Tiber) than by ox cart from Italian farms more than 30 miles from the city of Rome.
This is an excellent podcast with Dave Reaboi interviewing Rick Beato on music. I love when two people I like but don’t associate with one another meet. Great conversation.
“Do they not realize how tone deaf all this makes them?”
They don’t care. Trudeau’s behavior demonstrates that reality.
Besides the MSM covering for them, there’s “I read that MSM polling shows 2:1 support for Turdeau. Perhaps 1/3 support truckers, 1/3 support Woke Dictatorship and 1/3 wringing their hands fearful of conflict.”
I think that likely to be fairly accurate given that the same percentages held sway during our revolution and, another poll showing 54% support for Canada’s extreme Covid restrictions.
Canadian truckers crossing the border can’t make a sustainable living when after each trip upon return they must submit to 14 days quarantine. Given that most are vaccinated, more than anything else I suspect that’s the bridge too far for them.
In the aggregate, Canadians have fashioned the chains of their enslavement. May their chains rest lightly upon their necks.
I do wonder how long it will take Canada’s law enforcement and military to face that they are now the enforcement arm of a totalitarian State?
I’m an aviation fan, but this is amazing. So far today, this video of planes landing on a windy day in London has 5.5M views. I rather more watched Viva Frei in Ottawa (that’s at 400K views today), but I don’t think the Olympics is getting this level of viewership.
Zaphod:
I confess I never finished the second book of The “Three Body Problem.” Christmas and whatnot.
You do any better?
@Huxley:
I’m at 81% of Volume 3. Still a happy customer. Hastening slowly as I’m prone to getting myself sidetracked with other books and hobbies. Hang in there!
And, Citizen, don’t forget to wear your mask to Calculus Class! 🙂
Speaking of which, the Great Covid Wall of China appears to have some cracks in it:
Really a bit of a bore and am not looking forward to the upcoming several months of Covid Theatre while it burns itself out.
@ John F MacMichael > “but then he correctly emphasized their primary purpose: to permit the rapid movement of Imperial armies and messengers. I don’t doubt that traders took advantage of the Roman road system”
The Federal-Aid Road Act of 1944 mandated construction of an interstate highway system. More than a decade later, only a fraction of the roads had actually been constructed because of the expense. In 1956, the combination of a more populous and mobile nation, and President Dwight Eisenhower’s recognition during World War II of the importance of a highway network to mobility and defense, prompted Congress to provide the funding to construct an interstate highway system.
After failed attempts at legislation and significant wrangling between the two chambers, the House and Senate agreed to fund the construction of a “National System of Interstate and Defense Highways” with the establishment of the Highway Trust Fund.
I strongly suspect our roads could be made far more durable than is currently the case and at little extra cost.
GeoffreyBritain:
What, and put road contractors out of business? That might create a major whole in Democrats’ fund-raising activities.
Canada now escalating arrests of the protestors. To borrow a phrase from one of our own incidents, “The whole world is watching!”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bv4-6uJ3vUw
Y’all need yourselves some morning Eydie.
Well, it seems like Roman roads have lasted longer than Canada’s Charter of Rights and Freedoms – Ottawa police have arrested protesters to clear out the Parliament Hill area.
In some cases the media have been threatened with arrest unless they, also, stay out of the “zone.” The authorities have told the press that they will be given media opportunities later.
Do they not realize how tone deaf all this makes them?
Or is it really a case of the narrative of these truckers are fringe right-wingers who are also armed and dangerous while flying Nazi and US confederate flags is working?
Many years ago in the Yorkshire Dales my Wife and I walked out into a pasture with the cows and strolled along the remains of a Roman Road. It was amazing. Had water channels to funnel the water off the Road. And yes it was straight. There are Roman Road buried under current roads in the UK.
I saw the remains of a Roman road at Philippi, Macedonia.
Pretty impressive to me to think that the Apostle Paul travelled down that very road, since the Book of Acts speaks of Paul and his companions traveling from Neapolis ( modern Kavala) to Philippi and then passing thru Amphipolis. Acts chapters 16 and 17.
The negative comparisons to the longevity of modern American highways is nowhere near accurate. Not to take away from the very real accomplishment that the ancient Roman roads were, but I believe that if you ran a few hundred 40 ton semi rigs and thousands of 2 ton automobiles up and down the ancient Appian Way every day, it wouldn’t last near as long as a modern interstate.
The top of our city where the historic townhall is located is paved with rectangular stones. When my husband and I first visited in winter, we stayed at a hotel up from the townhall. I vowed never to wear high heels again. Just a bit of snow or rain and you kill yourself if you slip. Now the city has parking garages and elevators to get people from the bottom of the city with its asphalt streets up to the top.
Here is an article about the excavation of Ermine Street, a Roman road that ran from London to York and Lincoln. It was built between 43 and 81 AD:
https://www.hertsmemories.org.uk/content/herts-history/towns-and-villages/ware/roman-roads-hertfordshire-ermine-street
Ermine Street gave its name to the Ermine Street Guard, a British living history and Roman reenactment group founded in 1972. The Guard is noted for its perfectionism in the accuracy of its weapons and equipment, made by hand using the same tools and methods used by the Roman army. Here is a short (8 min.) documentary about the Guard made by the University of Portsmouth:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5RFtxETeNg&ab_channel=RodSayers
A few years ago I read a kindel novel about a Roman Soldier and the author used meters as the distances they travel each day. I emailed the author and told him that the Romans used miles and mile markers and it was the goofy Frog French that came up with that meter crap a whole lot later in 1793. He emailed back and thanked me and said he really messed that up in his book.
In the fall of 1963 in my Bible class, required at the time at my college, the professor told us that the rapid spread of the Gospel could not have occurred without the incredible Roman road system, he explained that is was a God thing with the timing that the roads existed and were that good. A few years later visiting Rome I saw part of the Appian way and I was awe struck with walking on a road over two thousand years old.
charles: “is it really a case of the narrative of these truckers are fringe right-wingers who are also armed and dangerous while flying Nazi and US confederate flags is working?”
I read that MSM polling shows 2:1 support for Turdeau. Perhaps 1/3 support truckers, 1/3 support Woke Dictatorship and 1/3 wringing their hands fearful of conflict.
Or maybe MSM is lying.
Your call.
I read that MSM polling shows 2:1 support for Turdeau.
The polling I’ve seen is all over the place, maybe because pollsters these days are grifters with sh!tty sampling frames.
Maybe. On the other hand Canadians have always been a comparatively compliant, community minded, by and large conflict avoidant, and /or obedient people.
Yeah, Quebec separatists, and Metis stuff, but that is a question of culture conflicts and pie division, not matters of citizen to state relations or personal rights and liberties.
As a population, they are self-selected for those very attributes of passivity and go-alongness..
I once heard, and I swear to Gaia it is accurate, a Canadiam male on a Canadian call in show where the topic was the (notorious) emerging failures in their health care system and the resultant MRI backups and so forth.
His observation was that although the system might result in some people being denied some treatments and cures, from his perspective the most important thing was that they all shared the same system and (to his mind at least, I suppose) had the same care or lack thereof.
” All same same, all together, no one out of queue, no one out of step. Feels so nice being nice together like this doesn’t it? Giggle giggle. What has freedom got on this!! “
The Canadians have been constructing this Moloch for generations. Why would most of them turn on him now?
I don’t understand how anyone could possibly support Trudeau, and look themselves in a mirror ever again.
I once heard, and I swear to Gaia it is accurate, a Canadiam male on a Canadian call in show where the topic was the (notorious) emerging failures in their health care system and the resultant MRI backups and so forth.
You doubtless know that Canadians who can afford it travel southward to clinics and hospitals in the U.S. After retiring to Vermont, my grad school advisor went to Dartmouth-Hitchcock Medical Center for routine health care. He told me that it wasn’t unusual to see more cars with Canadian tags in the patient parking lot than cars with U.S. tags.
Saagar Enjeti made a very good point on his show with Krystal Ball. He pointed out that scene in “The Newsroom” which echoed the old U.S. lefty canard about how freedom isn’t what makes America great. “Europe is free! Canada is free!” they say.
Well, Canadians are getting a good lesson today that they are, in fact, NOT as free as American citizens.
Mike
When are you going to do something about your vastly out of date blogroll, Neo?
Today’s Viva Frei livestream….riveting stuff;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWBEp5REwDo
Roy:
The video basically makes that same point – that modern highways have to take far more punishment.
Marisa:
Once is enough. At this point you are becoming a troll. Please stop or you’ll lose commenting privileges here.
I will do it when I choose to do it and when I have the time and inclination.
neo,
I’m obstinate enough that I would refuse to do it just because. Maybe even add a couple more bad links.
Probably another reason I could never do what you do.
An interesting video. I twitched a bit when the narrator started out by describing the Roman roads as “…conduits of trade…” but then he correctly emphasized their primary purpose: to permit the rapid movement of Imperial armies and messengers. I don’t doubt that traders took advantage of the Roman road system but much more trade moved via water. To take but one example, the Romans found it cheaper to important grain from Egypt by ship (down the Nile, across the Mediterranean and up the Tiber) than by ox cart from Italian farms more than 30 miles from the city of Rome.
This is an excellent podcast with Dave Reaboi interviewing Rick Beato on music. I love when two people I like but don’t associate with one another meet. Great conversation.
https://davereaboi.substack.com/p/rick-beato-on-the-joys-of-music-and?utm_source=url
Charles wonders,
“Do they not realize how tone deaf all this makes them?”
They don’t care. Trudeau’s behavior demonstrates that reality.
Besides the MSM covering for them, there’s “I read that MSM polling shows 2:1 support for Turdeau. Perhaps 1/3 support truckers, 1/3 support Woke Dictatorship and 1/3 wringing their hands fearful of conflict.”
I think that likely to be fairly accurate given that the same percentages held sway during our revolution and, another poll showing 54% support for Canada’s extreme Covid restrictions.
Canadian truckers crossing the border can’t make a sustainable living when after each trip upon return they must submit to 14 days quarantine. Given that most are vaccinated, more than anything else I suspect that’s the bridge too far for them.
In the aggregate, Canadians have fashioned the chains of their enslavement. May their chains rest lightly upon their necks.
I do wonder how long it will take Canada’s law enforcement and military to face that they are now the enforcement arm of a totalitarian State?
I’m an aviation fan, but this is amazing. So far today, this video of planes landing on a windy day in London has 5.5M views. I rather more watched Viva Frei in Ottawa (that’s at 400K views today), but I don’t think the Olympics is getting this level of viewership.
Zaphod:
I confess I never finished the second book of The “Three Body Problem.” Christmas and whatnot.
You do any better?
@Huxley:
I’m at 81% of Volume 3. Still a happy customer. Hastening slowly as I’m prone to getting myself sidetracked with other books and hobbies. Hang in there!
And, Citizen, don’t forget to wear your mask to Calculus Class! 🙂
Speaking of which, the Great Covid Wall of China appears to have some cracks in it:
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/china-hong-kong-sar/
Really a bit of a bore and am not looking forward to the upcoming several months of Covid Theatre while it burns itself out.
@ John F MacMichael > “but then he correctly emphasized their primary purpose: to permit the rapid movement of Imperial armies and messengers. I don’t doubt that traders took advantage of the Roman road system”
Same as ours.
https://history.house.gov/Records-and-Research/Listing/lfp_008/
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10530247/Jeffrey-Epsteins-friend-Jean-Luc-Brunel-prison-suicide.html
Another one bites the dust.
Time to lower the musical tone:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4GGQ4lXyC4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64lBkmgBDcQ
A gentleman I’d not heard of: Dick Schory.
Typical it’s on the Left, no it’s on the Right! whoopety-doo early novelty stereo recordings. Quite fun!
Aesop Fan @ 2:00 AM, exactly so.
Zaphod:
Good for you for nearly finishing 3BP!
I haven’t given up. I’m resting.
Cixin Liu reminds me so much of Silver Age Sci-Fi, though with the weird Chi-Com twist.
American sci-fi has gone so social justice — except for Sad Puppies throwbacks — that I haven’t bothered in decades.