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Time for some new messaging: the polls must be really really bad for the Democrats — 54 Comments

1. I would say that this post is Part 2 of your previous post.

   These politicians are delusional—totally nuts, absolutely insane—if they think that people will forget how they promoted, encouraged and then turned a blind eye, and moralizing mien, to the trashing, sabotage and destruction of the cities they were elected to govern by the people they were elected to protect and assist.

   By the people they betrayed time and time again. With obvious pleasure and perversity, mendacity and moral preening.

   HOLD ON!
   (Maybe I’m the one who’s “delusional”, “totally nuts” and “absolutely insane”…)

2. Yet another one.

   But can they resist the panicked cultists in the face of the Dread Variant Omicron?

   https://www.politico.com/news/2021/12/15/democratic-governors-covid-fatigue-524425

3. where does moral corruption stop and evil begin?

4. I wonder who would join the SF Police now. Or any force in a Blue city.

5. It’s hard to come up with kind reason for why the SF mayor is doing this now. Business leaders and the tourism industry in San Francisco have been complaining about this for years and have gotten nowhere so the idea that it is rich donors doesn’t completely work either.

   Cynical electoral worries seem to be the only workable reason.

   Also, the quotes by NJ governor Phil Murphy in the above Politico article I linked are informative. He got lucky and barely won will all these others be so lucky?

6. “Let’s fool the public into thinking we are not responsible for the mess America’s in.”

   Easy peasy. After all, they’ve got half the public convinced that Donald Trump is responsible for all the world’s evil since Adam scornfully ignored his wise [Latina?] mate’s counsel to not go near that specific “tree which is in the midst of the garden.”

7. In this past week there has been big media messaging on saving American democracy from Trump and his supporters. Just a sampler:

   https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2022/01/imagine-death-american-democracy-trump-insurrection/620841/

   https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/13/briefing/anti-democratic-movement-us-politics.html

   https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2021/12/democrats-need-a-three-year-plan-to-save-democracy.html

8. …which goes to show that for the Democrats “1984” IS in fact a “how to” manual….

   (And that they’re so far down the rabbit hole—they’re so enamored, impressed, enchanted, beguiled, hypnotized and persuaded by their own BS—they’re not even aware of what they’re doing…. But of course, it’s “Trumpism” that’s a cult…)

9. She’s gonna have a real task to get anything on crime past red diaper baby Chesa Boudin, whose parents were recently released from prison after serving years for murder.

   And he was raised by well known terrorists Bill Ayres and Bernadine Dohrn.

10. Not thinking one Marxist mayor calls for the end anyone doing the crimes will care

11. Let me say first that I am quaffing with unseemly delight a great beaker of Prog Tears harvested and bottled by Schloss Schadenfreude. These people are learning the hard way a few basic facts about human nature.

    Which leads to my prediction: Mayor Breed should not expect a miraculous turnaround. The criminals will need to get the message, and I imagine they will be reluctant to break their very-lucrative habits. Likewise the police will need to believe that their city government will back them up under new, more assertive, rules of engagement and redefined mission. Those essential doctrinal and training steps must precede any operational changes, and by the way, how soon can the police recruit the kind of talent it will need, and restore the kind of morale that will make a real difference?

    My guess is, making a significant difference in the quality of SF life is going to take years. And years. And waaaay more money than Mayor Breed ever imagined.

    Just my opinion.

12. I thought it was interesting that the mayor used the phrase “have destroyed” rather than “is destroying” in referring to the state of San Francisco.

13. I am pretty sure that Dirty Harry Callahan isn’t available or interested.

14. Way back in m the 1960s when I was stationed at NAS Alameda, it was called simply, “The City.” A magical place with magnificent views from its hills, food that was diverse and delicious, a marvelous entertainment scene, and a culture that was ten years ahead of flyover country. It was a place beloved by most. (I Left My Heart In San Francisco.)

    The Haight Asbury scene was a harbinger of things to come, but it took a long time for the rot to metastasize. Cleaning it up will require lots of energy, time, and money. “The City” is not coming back until the whole state begins to regain its sanity.

    I agree that some Democrats are now seeing the handwriting on the wall. Time for a message change. Fool the rubes into thinking you are actually going to do something about crime. Unfortunately, too many will believe the propaganda.

15. I am convinced that much of the Democrat base are easily whipped up into fads and frenzies. Just consider the whole “ Defund the police” and getting their kids “ sex changed” and the exaggerations with Covid and climate change. And look how quickly they switch back and forth about whether the voting system has been compromised or interfered with and cheated. On that last one, conservatives are pretty consistent in that we want it more secure whether our guy wins or looses.

16. huxley: “big media messaging on saving American democracy from Trump and his supporters”

    We have to keep in mind always that when Democrats say “democracy” they mean “rule by Democrats.” It wasn’t always that way, but it clearly is now.

17. I heard part of her speech including the BS and I was impressed that she does seem to have had a spine implant. Let’s see how she really acts now. It’s better than nothing.

18. It’s not enough. Related to Mike K’s comment, you can put out a lot of police and make a lot of arrests, but it means nothing if DA Boudin doesn’t take up charges. Does hiring more cops change how the city will handle shoplifting? No. Then commercial businesses won’t return. As people become more desperate, the homicide rate will not abate.

19. @ Owen

    Mayor Breed should not expect a miraculous turnaround.

    Agreed. The momentum is all on the crooks’ side, and some of them are very well organized. Also the real-time cops are likely working in some red state where they’re appreciated, and she’ll have to weed the oh-so-caring social workers out of their oh-so-new police uniforms. Also half the herd of experienced prosecutors has now left town in disgust.

    The bazillionaires will have to fork over double-Democrat if they want even a long chance at buying elections in 2022.

20. J.J.:

    I was in SF in the 60s and 70s, and it was a great great place. One of my favorites. Starting about 10 years ago or maybe 15, the rot was setting in and quite noticeable.

21. I loved San Francisco in the late 50s and 60s when I was in college. I have not been there in 10 years. I used to go to the American College of Surgeons convention there every three years, About 10 years ago the College decided to avoid the city and I haven’t been back. I suspect quite a few events like that ended about then. The convention I attended usually had about 20,000 people, prosperous people, attending. No more.

22. Cicero asks, “where does moral corruption stop and evil begin?”

    Is there any remaining doubt that the leadership on the left, from big donors down to elementary teachers have surpassed that point?

    Arguably, moral corruption is the lesser and evil the greater of two sides of the same coin. To deny it is to rationalize the indefensible.

    Rhetorical question; At what point does willful blindness lose validity as an excuse by those voting to enable evil?

    Answer; When a campaign of deceit is the means employed to justify the end sought, that end is revealed to be a lie because truth is fundamentally and unalterably repelled by deceit.

    Truth has no need of deceit.

23. Maybe Elon Musk should run for President.

24. Blah, blah, blah …
    Breed diverted $120 million in law enforcement funding to minority welfare programs. her freeloading pals and constituents. Blah, blah, blah.

    Don’t pay attention to the smoke, just the bottom line.

25. Eva Marie, of course you know Mr. Musk doesn’t fit the Constitutional requirements for President, but it does raise an entertaining option for a “reality show” where he goes through the motions to “show how it should be done”.

    If we have mock courts, why not a mock campaign?

26. R2L: O, I thought people born in Africa were exempted from those requirements,

27. My mother lived in SF in the late ’50s – early ’60s, and my aunt lived in Santa Rosa, so I visited the city many times as a child in the ’70s and once or twice in the early ’80s. I was a kid, but my mother and I walked around everywhere and the worst thing that happened was a crush to get on the last cable car out of Ghirardelli Square.

    One time in college in ’85 or ’86 there was snow in the Pacific Northwest so my flight got diverted to SF and the airline put me up in a downtown hotel for one night. My chief memory of that night was that the street on the north side of the hill was pleasant and looked like the city I remembered, and the street on the south side of the hill was dirty and full of rubbish and smelled like old garbage and urine.

    The last time I was back was in 1999 or 2000 with my first wife visiting her brother in Oakland. We’d driven down, so I took the opportunity to drive all over the city to learn how it fit together. It was much dirtier and shabbier and already filling up with homeless even then.

28. Breed can empower the police all she wants, but her doing so will only meet half of the equation. SF will still have a pro-criminal DA… arrests are meaningless without aggressive prosecution of the perps.

29. Gretchen Whitmer announced that she’s not going to pursue vaccine mandates.

    Yeah, the Dem’s internal polling must show them getting pounded on Covid fatigue, crime, and CRT in schools. They’re going to pivot, with the help of the media, in time for the midterms.

30. First black criminal shot, beat up on camera, SWAT gone bad and she folds.
    This is just a pause in the steps down to the basement. The white, working class ethos that brick by brick built the city is literally dead and gone. They put more into the city than they took. Now it is competing extraction gangs.

31. Hanson on another Democratic strategy of distraction
    “Why is the Left suddenly worried about the end of democracy?”
    https://www.jewishworldreview.com/1221/hanson121621.php

    Anything and anyone that opposes “Biden”—along with anything and anyone that is suspected of weakineng “him”—must be classified as an “Enemy of the People”(TM), an “Enemy of Democracy”.

    For example, Trump and the deplorables who support Trump.
    Likewise institutions, citizens—and the odd journalist—who dare question “Biden”, who dare express doubt.
    Likewise the media if they do not do their job they way they ought to, IOW who do not support “Biden” sufficiently, who are not constantly glowing in their praise, who report on things that just might hurt the regime…or who do not lie sufficiently in support of it.

    One might well imagine that it’s just a matter of time before inflation is characterized by “Biden” and “his” minions as a “White Supremacist” phenomenon; one which the deplorables are encouraging and cheering on since inflation is viewed as weakening “Biden”.

    Ditto the Supreme Court if it does not rule “correctly”.
    Ditto the American Constitution.
    Ditto anyone—doctor, scientist, and layperson alike—who doesn’t fall in line with “Biden”‘s vaccination policy.

    (Note that the military has, presumably, already been taken care of, or is at least well on its way to being corrupted and “absorbed”.)

    All this because anyone who will not allow themselves to be steamrolled is “Biden”‘s enemy.
    Anyone who criticizes “Biden” is the enemy.
    Anyone who points out that “Biden” has no clothes is the enemy.
    Anyone who fights back is the enemy.
    Anyone who tells the truth is the enemy.

    The enemy who must be destroyed.

    Palestinian rules!

    + Related (on the January 6 frame-up)—
    https://nypost.com/2021/12/15/liz-cheney-at-forefront-of-hollow-jan-6-war-devine/

32. Just thought of something. These people act as if they live in a bubble, i.e. they are believing their own press. If they don’t see it on CNN, then it doesn’t exist.

    Worse then confirmation bias, they have ideologic blinders on.

    A feedback system catches the needed signals ACCURATELY and corrects the course before swinging off target and wildly correcting.

33. I heard her law and order speech/conversion. It sounded so genuine and convincing. Can leftist turn on a dime like that? She didn’t even hesitate, spoken like a life-long conservative.

34. Zenman @ I:30: “…feedback…swinging off target and wildly correcting.” Good point: even (or especially) a con artist needs to keep track of the underlying reality which he is hiding or distorting in the eyes of his victim. If the con artist gets conned by his own con, things collapse very quickly. So a political con artist like Mayor Breed or the current occupant of the White House needs an excellent feedback system to maintain control of the con. If you see wild oscillations and obvious reversals, that is a clear “tell” that the feedback system has failed. They lied too much and too often, and lost their grip on reality.

    Now begins the reckoning.

35. Steve Bannon has the right strategy, the first step would be having a cadre of people willing to work in these agencies, and vet them, background checks, internet searches. Make sure they’re qualified for the job.

    Then first step upon election would be firing EVERY political appointee, and replacing them with these previously vetted appointees. Then go on a cross agency cutting spree of duplicated programs, regulations, and extraneous positions.

    What we need is another Teddy Roosevelt maybe…

    If a business is “TO BIG TO FAIL” then it should be “TO BIG TO EXIST” That goes for government too.

    I’m not a conservative because we have to tear down much of the internal workings of our current governing institutions.

36. “Can leftists turn on a dime like that?”

    In fact, yes. (Witness Molotov-Ribbentrop as one example.))

    But it’s also a matter of “giving the people what they want to hear”.

    Akin to “Biden”‘s occasional outbursts of “We’ll rein in the border” or “We’ll go back to the Stay-in-Mexico program” (or whatever it’s called) regarding illegal immigrants.

    Or “American democracy is in trouble” or “We support democracy”…or “We call on ___ to ensure free and fair elections”…or “We will send observers to assist in free and fair elections”, etc.

    …As the clown show continues:
    ‘Speaker Pelosi Rejects The Idea Of Congressional Stock Trading Ban, Claiming “We’re A Free Market Economy”‘
    https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/speaker-pelosi-rejects-idea-congressional-stock-trading-ban-claiming-were-free-market

37. Democrats genuinely believe that the public is brain dead stupid.

    Look at the messaging on “build back better”. Heck, look at every message for the last 3 decades. Global warming, Benghazi, Obamacare, Voter ID, BLM, Covid masks and lockdowns, Gender pay gap, women don’t lie about rape, white supremacy, insurrection, Heinz 57 genders ….

    They lie relentlessly because they are convinced that we are stupid. And their voters certainly are.

38. “Likewise the police will need to believe that their city government will back them up under new, more assertive, rules of engagement and redefined mission.”

    And it will likely take years to staff the police back up.

39. Cicero wrote — “where does moral corruption stop and evil begin?”

    My comment on another thread:

    We are all flawed, sinful, ignorant, stupid, selfish people. Wisdom requires that we acknowledge this. And humility is the result. Our entire constitutional system recognizes and incorporates this humility and wisdom. It’s why all the actors in this system have to stay in their lanes.

    The path to evil starts with the failure of humility. This is precisely where liberals start off the path. They REALLY believe that they are better people than those who disagree with their policies. Not just that they are correct in their political beliefs. Better, more deserving human beings.

    Where it gets worse and moves closer to evil is their belief that those who disagree are actually evil. And we see this in their willingness to embrace “fascist, racist, Nazi, white supremacist” to describe republicans. These aren’t just lies. These aren’t just slanders. These are the worst, nastiest, most vicious lies imaginable.

    And where they get even closer to crossing the line into evil is that they have a mountain of evidence available every day to know that these vicious slanders are not true. They believe the worst because they want to. They live with and work with family, friends, neighbors, fellow workers, and others who vote for the other party. They know that this imputation of evil is false.

    And finally, the last step across the line — they believe that their beliefs in the evil of their opponents is part of what makes them good people! One of the things that makes them more moral is precisely that they believe that others are evil. This crosses the line. This is evil.

40. A single ugly arrest caught on video, and this will be thrown out the window.

41. Question above about who would want to join the SF police.

    My son was in SF in May and June of 2020. I visited for a week. Because of a theft complaint he had to file, we had a long talk with a couple of beat cops one evening. They were originally cops from other states. They came to SF because the pay was over 100k. They had to live a good distance from the city because of the lack of affordable homes.

    They acknowledged that the crazy DA policy that allowed gangs to steal from stores with impunity made their jobs and life for residents in the city harder. But shrug, they were grunts. They did what they were told and got their checks. Did their jobs the best they could, but they were only sticking fingers in a very leaky dike.

    SF probably going to have to keep increasing pay rates. It’s the only hope they have a keeping cops.

42. Speaking of messaging. Not sure if this has been addressed here before, but the big push to slander Republicans began with the Clinton scandals. As more and more scandals came to light, the liberal faithful had to be given more and more reasons to continue to stay on the plantation.

    The more noxious the Clintons became, the more racist and hateful the GOP had to be. And it has continued and accelerated that way since. The more Biden craters, the more nasty, vile slanders will be directed at deplorables.

43. They came to SF because the pay was over 100k. They had to live a good distance from the city because of the lack of affordable homes.

    Pay only goes so far. I’m sure they improve their pay with overtime and side jobs (because I suspect private security is very popular in California), but when the government regulates private businesses like they do in California and tax businesses and individuals as they do, while having some of the highest property values; making a little less in some other state becomes desirable. It is indeed just one more problem SF will have as it becomes a failed city like Detroit.

44. “I wonder who would join the SF Police now.”

    I think they’ll be able to recruit. Unless the starting salary has gone down significantly, and they still no longer have age limitations, I think there will be people who apply. Will they be any good? Probably not.

45. “I wonder who would join the SF Police now.”

    This is an excellent opportunity for the Mayor to rebuild the police force with her own loyal brownshirt types.

46. re: Evil

    Why is Adam Schiff still in Congress?

    Lying, stealing, nasty weasels will always be with us (see e.g. Michael Mann and Phil Jones). The key is how the others deal with the weasels. Altering documents to impugn a fellow congressman? Absolutely inexcusable. There is no way for someone to explain away how this is “opinion” or somehow not that bad. And this is not his first time with this kind of outrageous garbage. Democrats have embraced and applauded Schiff.

    Evil.

    (And Clinesmith is now free to practice law. Outrageous.)

47. Gas lighting all the way down folks. The Dems have no other play.

48. Stan @ 12:13: “… The more Biden craters, the more nasty, vile slanders will be directed at deplorables.…”

    Exactly so. This is a fundamental move in the “otherizing” process. On offense, it discredits and dehumanizes the target, inviting mob attacks, shunning, and distracting “investigations” that force the target to waste time and credibility trying to prove a negative: “when did you stop beating your wife?”
    On defense, it contrasts one’s own exposed faults with the (allegedly far worse) faults of the target. “Hey, nobody’s perfect; but my intentions are always good, and look at what a dirtbag my rival is!”
    The Dems are exceptionally good at it. But I guess my saying so is just another case of “otherizing,” huh?

49. It is grotesque that it is only “time” to address rampant crime when it affecting the politicians but if it’s only affecting the citizenry then it’s no big deal and racist to even raise the issue. Hope that some people are waking up to the reality that they previously only perceived in the abstract and at great remove.

50. It is grotesque that it is only “time” to address rampant crime when it affecting the politicians but if it’s only affecting the citizenry then it’s no big deal and racist to even raise the issue. Hope that some people are waking up to the reality that they previously only perceived in the abstract and at great remove.

    Again, Bourbons.

51. stan:

    I was with you until this point – when you wrote:

    And where they get even closer to crossing the line into evil is that they have a mountain of evidence available every day to know that these vicious slanders are not true. They believe the worst because they want to. They live with and work with family, friends, neighbors, fellow workers, and others who vote for the other party. They know that this imputation of evil is false.

    They know nothing of the sort.

    First of all, most Democrats I know don’t believe everyone who votes for Republicans is evil. They believe they support and enable evil without being aware of it, and that some Republicans are evil. Secondly, for most of them their source for information about what people on the right say and feel and think is the MSM, which they do not realize is full of lies. Most of them still think they are getting unbiased news, and they are surrounded by people who think the same so why challenge that viewpoint? They “know” that a source such as Fox is full of lies, and everyone they know “knows” it too. Lastly, especially in deep blue cities, they do NOT “live with and work with family, friends, neighbors, fellow workers, and others who vote for the other party.” For most of the people I know, I am probably the only person on the right that they know. They know I’m not evil, but they certainly don’t “know’ that I’m typical in that regard.

    Although, as I already said, they don’t think everyone on the right is evil, just that they are enabling evil without realizing it.

52. She’s gonna have a real task to get anything on crime past red diaper baby Chesa Boudin, whose parents were recently released from prison after serving years for murder. And he was raised by well known terrorists Bill Ayres and Bernadine Dohrn.

    Boudin won 35% of the vote on the 1st round of tabulation and just over 50% on the third and final round. You had 68,000 voters for whom he was their 1st choice; 5,000 for whom he was their 2d choice; and 13,000 for whom he was their 3d choice. His sorosphere counterpart in LA defeated the incumbent, a black lady who believes in law enforcement. Their counterpart in Philly was just returned for another term. I don’t want to share a country with the sort of feckless jerk who would cast a ballot for these creatures.

53. Sooner or later another person of color will be killed by the cops. Then we’ll see how devoted the Democrats are to law’n’order.

54. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1EAwYjgnE4

    When the gibberish of the 60s becomes the policy ukase of today.

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