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Dr. Scott Atlas wants you to know

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Sounds like an interesting book:

In his latest book, “A Plague Upon Our House: My Fight at the Trump White House to Stop COVID from Destroying America,” Atlas wrote, “The American people need to know the level of incompetence, the lack of rigor, the lack of critical thinking. I was stunned at what I saw. We had bureaucrats in charge of the policy and that policy was the restrictions and lockdowns. And it failed.”…

…”But it also inflicted massive harm because you have to remember, we shut down a lot of medical care. It wasn’t just cosmetic surgery or something like that that was shut down. We had 650,000 people with cancer on chemotherapy. Half of them skipped their chemo just during the spring of 2020 out of fear. We had 85% of living organ transplants did not get done compared to the previous year. We had two-thirds of cancer screenings did not get done. These people still have cancer.”

All of this became obvious within a couple of months of the first shutdown. But how many people are really aware of it, even now? And why did they buy the idea that Joe Biden, of all people, could “shut down the virus”? Delusional, magical thinking, of a type fostered by the left and the MSM, and cynically exploited.

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Dr. Scott Atlas wants you to know — 47 Comments

  1. Financial news today says that Kroger supermarkets are stepping up their employee vax requirements and adding a booster requirement. On the other hand, a number of hospitals are lowering or dropping vax requirements simply because they can’t get enough employees otherwise.

    I don’t know that the reticence of healthcare workers is necessarily a great indicator of vax risk. I suspect that those people see more of the bad side of healthcare than the rest of us see.

  3. we shut down a lot of medical care.

    We did. Without doing care, health care providers have no income. They don’t have reserves they sit on. They had to lay people off when non-emergency care was drastically curtailed in 2020.

    Meanwhile, health insurers had large surpluses of money that they had to figure out what to do with. Some of them essentially gave money away to health care providers to try to keep them solvent and staffed. And it’s not easy to legally give away money in health care, as it is very heavily regulated in every state,

  4. I recall myself and others bringing up the “other side” of negative effects due to our Covid policies on social media platform “NextDoor”.
    Loss of jobs, school shutdowns, medical chaos, business destruction and on and on.
    The pro-gov’t people were big on “if it only saves one life” exhortations but they did zero thinking about the side effects that are obvious to all of us.

  5. @JimNorCal:The pro-gov’t people were big on “if it only saves one life”

    The seen and the unseen. People who missed the chance to catch their cancer early; old people who couldn’t get hip or knee replacements or cataract surgery and who lost quality of life as a result; and besides unemployment and poverty kill people.

    There was some unseen set of people on the edge and this thing pushed them over.

  6. Atlas and the people… persons of The Great Barrington Declaration were right. Trump was fortunate to have a viable choice of domain experts who followed the science, and not cargo cult driven by empathetic appeal and dreams of legal indemnity. Planned parent/hood, and collateral damage, were neither a good nor exclusive Choice.

  8. Isn’t it the governors of the states that made the decision to shutdown? The President doesn’t have that authority. He may use the bully pulpit to exhort but he has no real authority. It all comes down to what the governors did. Yes, the same folks that sent CV19 positive seniors back to their nursing homes to infect countless others.

  9. The blood of millions is upon the leadership’s hands of the medical establishment, the CCP, WHO, CDC, FDA, NIH, Moderna, Pfizer, Astra Zeneca, democrat and RINO politicians and the mass media.

    May they receive the ‘reward’ they so richly deserve.

  10. Actual justice for society, for the public, would entail large numbers of lawsuits against gov’t officials, elected or mere bureaucrats, requiring such steps. With the lawsuits winning significant financial compensation for those who suffered – wrongly.

    But we don’t have that kind of actual “social justice”; we have performative SJ Whiners trying to virtue signal.

  12. “…And it failed.”

    The plan, however, was always to perpetuate COVID.
    In this, the Democrats and their apparatchiks have succeeded magnificently.

    Similarly, but on the economic plane, the plan was, and is, to perpetuate and increase inflation.

    One can say this about each and every crisis that the Democrats and their apparatchiks have planned and foisted upon the country.

    For them it is “win-win”, since they believe (perhaps with good reason) that this will increase their power until they are impregnable.

    Destabilizing the country is their policy. Impoverishing the country is their policy. Weakening the country—in all ways—is their policy.

    After all, “Weakness is strength”.

    In other words, one must stop believing that the Democrats and their apparatchiks wish to “solve” the problems they are creating, perpetuating and worsening…even if—especially if—they might say they wish/plan/intend to solve them. (Or claim they never imagined that the results would be what they are!)

    That is, to believe that they wish to “solve” these problems is a delusion.
    Related:
    https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/bigger-covid-or-pronouns-tucker-carlson-peter-schiff-discuss-worst-inflation-us-history
    https://www.zerohedge.com/personal-finance/peter-schiff-mainstream-sugar-coating-inflation
    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/bidens-union-push-driver-still-more-inflation

  13. On the other hand, “Biden”‘s strategy may well be to plan to defeat the virus in the months ahead of the upcoming elections—after having enabled it to run rampant up until then.
    https://www.israelnationalnews.com/flashes

    To play the role of “savior”, as it were..

    …keeping in mind that “he” (and his CDC/FDA pals may well be able to jimmy the statistics even as his media lackeys will publish their version of the “correct facts” 24/7 and do whatever it takes to try to drag “him” over the finish line.

  14. Going to be interesting the next few days to see which Republican governors hit the hysteria button and which Democrat governor (other than Polis) joins team reality.

    We are seeing two diverging narratives right now you have the ‘OMG Omicron is going to kill us all’ vs. the NYT and the Atlantic coming out with very pro normality columns in the span of two days.

    Who will win?

    My money’s on the panic porn people and it’s only a matter of how far will they go.

  15. Whitmer seems to be on team reality.

    Could it be because she is up for reelection next year?

  16. TESTING is a big part of the problem.

    So, the LA Rams played on Monday Night Football last night and had to sit out five players because of COVID positive tests including TE Tyler Higbee who now today it was announced was a false positive and is off the COVID list.

    But wait there’s more!

    Today the Rams announced they have six more positives from tests taken before last night’s game including WR Odell Beckham Jr. who despite being infected by this ‘deadly illness’ had his best game of the year.

    All of these players were fully vaccinated and according to their coach none have any symptoms.

    And of course this COVID ravaged team full of plague infected players won the game last night over the team with the best record in the league.

    Insanity.

  18. Tom Grey,

    Given the S.C.’s ruling that essentially no one had ‘standing’ to contest the validity of the 2020 election… I’m a bit doubtful that malpractice lawsuits aganist government individuals and agencies would result in successful lawsuits.

  22. Atlas has been on the Laura Ingraham show many times. Always sensible. His book isa real condemnation of the political health bureaucrats, especially Fauci and Birx. He claims they never looked at data. That they dismissed his arguments out of hand and wouldn’t even give valid reasons for their positions. Shocking stuff. I tend to believe him because Fauci has proven to be a slick liar and seldom shows data to back up his positions. His ongoing dissembling about financing gain of function research at the Wuhan lab is dishonest and corrupt.

    The medical; bureaucracy has failed the test of the pandemic. It’s a tragedy that we don’t trust what they say because we should be able to trust and follow our doctor’s orders. Much of this I blame on the conjoining of the FDA, Big Pharma, big health insurance, and Obamacare regulations. Doctors are no longer in charge. Bureaucrats are.

    As to the problem of missing routine care. I haven’t seen it here. My wife fell in April of 2020 and cracked her pelvis. She was seen and taken care of wile taking the normal precautions. We have both continued to see our specialists for our various maladies including her ACC checks, our skin cancer checks, my kidney function checks, dental work, and other routine medical care. We have not felt neglected or unable to get care. Maybe our area is different, but the clinics and hospitals have been pretty much operating as normal – except for taking your temp and wearing a mask.

    Our clinics and hospitals are under the burden of the government not wanting them to treat Covid until the patient has low O2 levels – which means they are in very dire straits. Theer have been some heroic recoveries by patients on ventilators, but mostly when you go on a ventilator it is a death sentence.

    In the most recent wave, which is plateauing right now, the number of positive cases has been as high as the wave last winter, but the deaths are about half of what they were. Either Delta is not as lethal, or they know how to treat the hospitalized patients better.

    Therapeutics are the answer, IMO. But TPTB don’t want them. Why? There are no good answers to that question.

  23. I read Atlas’ book and agree he was right. Trump tried to follow Atlas’ advice but his administration was afraid to demote Birx, who was doing most of the damage telling Governors to shut down their state.

    He met with DeSantis and totally agreed with what DeSantis did. As Atlas comments at the end, “They feared firing Birx because of the election but they lost it anyway.”

  24. I also agree about “organized Medicine.” The AMA has been useless for 30 years. At one time I was a delegate from California. It was an education to watch them at work.

    I thought better of the American Association of Medical Colleges but I am so glad that I stopped teaching in the medical school when I did. When I was still teaching, the students seemed to appreciate that, even though I was an old curmudgeon, I was emphasizing basic stuff. From what I hear about present day students I doubt that would be acceptable. It’s all racial and gender politics now.

  25. A few personal anecdotes about COVID and the medical care situation:

    My mother spent two months in the hospital with zero visitors last year (except for Mother’s day, when they let my father sneak in) for her heart bypass surgery (pre- and post-op). No opportunities for us to help her, to advocate for her, or even provide some comfort and company. A very rough period of time for my family. For me, that’s the forgotten legacy of the shutdowns – how many other families were unable to visit ill or dying loved ones?

    My office shares a building with a dentist – they say that they have patients they haven’t seen since before March of last year, and their appointments have only recovered to about 75% of their pre-covid numbers 18 months after they reopened for regular visits.

    I see my internal medicine specialist twice a year – prior to COVID, my appointments with him would typically start an hour or more after the designated appointment time – e.g., I’d actually see the doctor at 9:00am if my appointment was at 8:00am, due to the number of patients stacked up on his schedule. Last summer, I saw him at 8:10 – basically as soon as the nurse took my BP and weight. Last December, it was 8:15; in June of this year it was 8:30 and last week it was 8:45…

  26. An acquaintance of mine is a high risk for developing melanoma. Melanoma caught early is great, but late has a very bad survival rate. She lived in a state where most dermatology visits were considered “non-essential.” (Pretty much anything that wasn’t an emergency.) Luckily, by the time she finally did get examined, she had nothing questionable.

    Now, Stage 0 melanoma can go to Stage IV in a matter of weeks. It could take years, and frequently does, but it can also take just weeks. The five year survival rate for Stage 0 is 99%, while the five year survival rate for Stage for is around 27%.

    Politicians should NOT be making medical decisions.

    My acquaintance was lucky.

  27. Several things my family members and I discussed in March-May 2020:
    -The unlikelihood of outdoor spread
    -How confusing and misleading people about the risk of going outside, and making people think they had to stay inside as much as humanly possible, was bound to harm people’s health and actually make the pandemic worse
    -How the risk to most healthy people with strong immune systems was minimal
    -How the obsession with sanitizing everything was pointless and possibly harmful
    -The health risks of isolation, loneliness, and living in fear
    -How damaging the economy was going to harm everyone down the road
    -That many people would probably suffer and die from delayed healthcare for non-COVID-related illnesses

    It doesn’t feel good to be vindicated, it just gets more frustrating as time goes on and people by and large aren’t admitting these things. I guess no one wants to hear it? Nobody wants to hear that they didn’t save anyone’s life by shutting themselves up in their home or by wearing a mask while walking outside? Nobody wants to hear that the suffering and “sacrifice” wasn’t worth it and that they actually put their health at risk under the guise of protecting their health?

  28. This is an hour of very interesting exposition by Matthias Detmer on the social pathology that has arisen with the pandemic. If he is correct we are in something of a totalitarian situation, or what he calls “mass formation.” Examples include the French Revolution and the Stalinist trials and purges.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CRo-ieBEw-8

  30. If anyone is interested, Joe Rogan’s recent interview with Doctor Peter McCullough on his Spotify channel was 3 hours of riveting stuff. A must listen, if you can. YouTube may have clips but the whole interview is amazing.

    His prior interviews with Alex Berenson and Dr. Sanjay Gupta are also worth listening to, especially in light of Gupta’s remarks afterward.

    Even if you disagree with McCullough regarding vaccines, his thoughts on treatment and protocols should wake people up to what a scam the past 20+ months have been.

  31. Griffin wrote:

    “Whitmer seems to be on team reality.

    Could it be because she is up for reelection next year?”

    The answer is yes, but I hope and pray she’s gone. She’s lying, even in actions, to get reelected. If she does get another term — Katy bar the door.

  32. shadow – my friends and I came to many of the same conclusions that you did, particularly regarding the extreme unlikelihood of it spreading outside, the damage to the economy (which is ongoing, despite most of the ‘lockdowns’ having ended more than a year ago) and the dangers of deferred healthcare. The overreaction to COVID – not that it’s not a serious disease, but it’s not the “Spanish Flu,” let alone the Black Plague – will have done more damage than the virus in the long run.

  33. The following is just my opinion-
    Dr. Scott Atlas wrote a book.
    Anyone in the US is allowed to write a book.

    Dr. Scott Atlas wrote a book.

    That does not mean that his book is accurate.

    Mark Twain wrote the book: The Adventures of Tom Sawyer.
    (This book is a novel.)

    He then invested, and lost, the 2021 equivalent of $9 million, by investing in a machine that would be used for type-setting and by the printing industry.

    (To me, that is a LOT of money.)

    The machine was [the Paige Compositor [tm], and people couldn’t get it to work AND turn a profit. This led to the end of the use, the Paige Compositor machines.

    Many people think that Mark Twain’s losses, from investing in this machine, caused him [great] financial troubles, in his life.

    Just because a man wrote a book, that doesn’t mean that his book, or his statements- are the truth, or that his book and statements are backed up by science.

    Just as a closing idea…I have a friend who wrote a romance book.

    Does that mean I should take his advice on medical issues?

  34. On the other hand, “Biden”‘s strategy may well be to plan to defeat the virus in the months ahead of the upcoming elections—after having enabled it to run rampant up until then.

    That may be his “strategy,” but the virus will follow its seasonal pattern as it always has, regardless of lockdowns and mandates: Down in the summer months in the northeast, up in the south, and then the reverse come fall. It won’t be good for the Democrats. The best hope (for all of us) is that it will have mutated into something much more benign (as it already has, but try telling that to a Democrat), but it will be hard for Biden to take credit for that, though he will try.

  35. Whitmer seems to be on team reality.

    Could it be because she is up for reelection next year?

    Hochul is still on team fantasy, despite (or maybe because of) being up for election. Maybe it’s just the difference between New York and Michigan voters, though I hope (being a New Yorker) that it’s a decision that dooms her.

  37. TR: “Dr. Scott Atlas wrote a book.
    That does not mean that his book is accurate.”

    I bet you $100 that Dr Atlas’ statements are more truthful and accurate than Dr Fauci’s. We can ask neo to hold the stakes?

    I have not read Dr Atlas’ book but I am highly confident. Perhaps you’d be willing to raise the wager to $200?

  38. The non-healthcare aspects of the shutdowns will do even more damage medically in the future than the medical problems Atlas highlights. We lost trillions in economic productivity. That lost wealth cannot be recovered. The impact will be huge.

    We wrecked lives by the million. Stress kills. Stress causes severe illness. Lockdowns caused stress. And the sickness caused has to include the drug overdoses, the suicides, the addictions and other mental health breakdowns.

  39. JimNorCal:

    If you can find where I said that Dr. Atlas’ statements were less truthful than DR. Fauci’s, in the page above, I’ll talk to my bank, + see about giving you $1,000.
    Later On. 😉

  40. JimNorCal:

    …Or, if you really want to know…,

    I typed my original comment, thinking that neo was [against] Dr. Atlas’ book, + then I decided to join in her trashing his book…which I now see, that she was [not] doing. Heh! *TR looks red-faced. *

    THAT will teach me, to read neo’s site, at 3am, + then pretend that I know what’s going on. 😀
    My 1st comment ends up supporting a political plank, that it turns out I do [not] support.
    I goofed on my comment, but it was fun to write, anyhow.
    I [miss] creative writing class.
    Have a Good Day. 🙂

  41. JimNorCal:
    I forgot to say- please pardon me, if my comments on this thread, have irked or offended.
    Later on. 🙂

  43. TR, JimNorCal —

    I haven’t read the Atlas book, but reviews from the right side of the aisle tend to include phrases like “self-serving like all Washington memoirs” and “sometimes even a little self-righteous” along with all the praise. So when I read it I’ll filter for that, to be sure.

  46. Griffin on December 14, 2021 at 5:23 pm said:
    I’m sure it will all work out.
    https://www.spiked-online.com/2021/12/06/the-death-of-europe/“

    Read the linked article. Some remarkable, if nonetheless predictable events are occuring in Europe.

    What a nice idea the bureaucrats have come up with: punitive taxation. Of course taxation has always been to the mind of the coercionist much more than a means of funding government operations. In the hands of the statist it is the ideal tool of social control and population management: The power to reward, and the power to destroy using the unremarkable and everyday, and almost, I say “almost”, subliminal powers of the state.

    The author did provide some inadvertently amusing interludes though. Do supposedly serious people still get musty-eyed and all trembly when citing “The Enlightenment” in the same way they now do “Science™”?

    I mean you don’t have to be a member of Action Francaise, and a self announced obscurantist to have concluded that the “Principles of the Enlightenment” are as much a nice song and dance routine, or anthem, if you prefer to lend it dignity, as it is any kind of coherent set of axioms which either inexorably generate distributively life affirmimg results, or, are even capable of being defended in the purely secular terms in which they are framed.

    It is a broader case of what one sees with the intellectual joke of utilitarianism. A doctrine which cannot be defended within its own framework but which must rely on closeted assumptions or inputs which one politely ignores – as when viewing a clever child’s model of a perpetual motion machine.

    You would think that after the French Revolution, and all the subsequent murderous regimes of progress and enlightenment since then, people would have quit reciting the phrase “The Enlightenment” or even funnier, “Our Enlightenment values”, as if they carried real moral force, or even had some incantatory power.

    That, is so … unenlightened!

  47. I dearly love (as granny used to say) that damned auto-correct.

    Thought it was turned off. Yet, I battled it all the way through the last comment.

    I lost out on “musty” …

    Or maybe the “U” and “I” are just too close on this tiny keypad. My fault either way.

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