Leftist Arizona State students don’t want Kyle Rittenhouse around
Where does Kyle Rittenhouse go to get his reputation back [see *NOTE below]?
There’s a group of Arizona State students who have discovered that Kyle Rittenhouse was enrolled in some online ASU courses, and are incensed by this terribly distressing information. Their campaign against him involves exactly the people you’d expect to be launching it:
At least four student organizations at Arizona State University are calling on the school to remove Kyle Rittenhouse as a student. Students for Socialism, Students for Justice in Palestine, the Multicultural Solidarity Coalition and MECHA de ASU plan to protest Rittenhouse’s enrollment on campus on Dec. 1.
The clubs have a shared list of demands for the university, including that Rittenhouse be withdrawn from ASU and the university release a statement denouncing white supremacy and Rittenhouse’s actions.
Students for Socialism, following in the footsteps of their illustrious predecessors.
The article was later updated with this announcement:
Kyle Rittenhouse is no longer enrolled in classes at Arizona State University, a university spokesperson told McClatchy News. Student groups upset that he was enrolled at one point say they still plan to push school officials to denounce white supremacy, Students for Socialism at ASU said in a Tweet.
As though white supremacy has anything whatsoever to do with the Rittenhouse case or Rittenhouse himself. But the fiction that he’s a white supremacist – which was pressed by the MSM and pushed by Democrats such as Biden – is so very useful.
Whether Rittenhouse (who was never a regular student there) un-enrolled himself or whether the university caved to leftist demands – which would be another example of what Allan Bloom called “dancing bear” administrators – is not clear. However:
“Students don’t feel safe with the prospect of having someone like Kyle Rittenhouse at ASU,” the anonymous member of ASU’s Students For Socialism said.
The student groups participating in the rally created a list of demands for ASU leaders, including that ASU releases a statement against white supremacy and acknowledge that Rittenhouse is a ‘racist murderer.’
That’s what leftists do – they lie and attempt to destroy lives, and sometimes they succeed. So these groups are doing the tried and true, under the now-popular rhetorical banner of “feeling safe”. They pervert the idea of education, but they are legion at universities across America. I wouldn’t “feel safe” with Students for Socialism at my university, but I never thought that feeling safe was the goal of education.
Nor do they, of course. It’s just something they claim in order to make their enemies feel very unsafe indeed.
This entire incident could be an opportunity for some actual education on the part of the ASU administration and faculty on the meaning of a public educational institution of higher learning, whether psychological “safety” is the goal, and what the rule of law is all about. I doubt that will happen, however, and I don’t think most administrators and faculty these days even care about those things. Many are simply leftist activists themselves.
I think Rittenhouse could find a nice home at Hillsdale, and I think they should offer it to him. He’ll have to provide his own security, unfortunately – for the rest of his life.
From the article:
Local attorney Dwane Cates is not connected to the school or the groups involved with the rally. We asked his legal opinion about what those groups wanted from ASU as it relates to Rittenhouse.
“If they went through with the rest of the demands and called him a white supremacist and other things, they would be setting themselves up for a libel slander suit,” Cates said. “Which, he’s already got a lawyer, and there’s already going to be a lot of people sued over this, and I don’t think ASU wants to get in line.”
I’d like to see Rittenhouse win a defamation lawsuit and get a lot of money. But I don’t think he’d prevail in such a suit because it’s hard to do if you’ve been criminally charged and tried, even if exonerated. That’s one of powers prosecutors have over our lives.
[*NOTE: That’s a famous quote from Ray Donovan:
In a highly publicized case, Donovan and six other defendants were indicted by a Bronx County, New York, grand jury for larceny and fraud in connection with a project to construct a new line extension for the New York City Subway, through a scheme involving a Genovese crime family associate and a minority-owned subcontractor. Schiavone Construction was required by its contract with the NYCTA to subcontract part of the work to a minority-owned enterprise. The essence of the charge was that the minority-owned firm (Jo-Pel Contracting and Trucking Corp) leased equipment from Schiavone and therefore was not truly independent of Schiavone. On May 25, 1987, Donovan (and all of the other defendants) were acquitted with a number of jurors openly applauding the verdict, after which Donovan was famously quoted as asking, “Which office do I go to to get my reputation back?” Reagan supported Donovan throughout the trial, and upon the latter’s acquittal, affirmed how he had “always known Ray Donovan as a man of integrity” and “never lost confidence in him.”
A second criminal investigation saw Donovan investigated by a federal special prosecutor. This was over allegations that he had ties to individuals in organized crime and claims that he was present when a union leader received an illegal payoff. No charges were pressed and the investigation was brought to an end.
Note the contrast between Reagan and Biden, who as candidate falsely and maliciously labeled the 17-year-old Rittenhouse a white supremacist, a charge the Arizona leftist students are employing.
Donovan’s Wiki entry states that in his later years he “participated in a local program that assisted in exonerating individuals who had been wrongfully convicted.” The word “local” there probably means in the Bronx. The organization isn’t named, and a link goes to the WaPo article which I assume is under a paywall. But my guess is that this organization either doesn’t exist anymore or is something like The Innocence Project, which deals with people who are already convicted but for whom DNA evidence ends up proving they didn’t do it. That doesn’t apply to either Donovan or Rittenhouse, neither of whom were convicted but who suffered nevertheless.]
Just saw this from Megyn Kelly’s interview today with Amanda Knox another young person who went through a horrific ordeal and her thoughts on the character assassination of Kyle Rittenhouse.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bf339KAnzRU
Another clip with Knox about her interview with Chris Cuomo.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20EZDnIiCGM
She seems to have survived her ordeal amazingly well and is now 34 years old and just had a baby. Hopefully Kyle Rittenhouse is able to overcome his challenges as she has.
It’s no surprise they don’t like him at ASU. Temperamentally, Rittenhouse is aligned with Hillsdale but they are kind of picky (SAT ACT) and he might not be a good candidate.
Free speech and the second amendment are anathema at ASU. Perhaps the Rittenhouse anti-defamation team can share the pain!
I think it would be easier to win. The whole country would know it is a lie.
“Students don’t feel safe…” (from one of the whiney-thingies issued by the ASU bullies).
I got the number of the “don’t feel safe” types several years ago during an argument (a really stupid argument) on Facebook. It was basically about sexual harassment. One guy who likes to provoke people told an anecdote about how once in his youth he had grabbed a girl he didn’t know, or didn’t know very well, and kissed her. I don’t remember what his excuse or explanation was–it may have been some moment of collective jubilation, like a college football win. A woman, not so very young (mid 30s or so) and extremely doctrinaire left, said he made her feel unsafe and insisted that I get rid of him (it was on my Facebook page). It was preposterous. She had spent the previous ten years or so doing various genuinely risky things–traveling unaccompanied to not-altogether-safe places, etc. The guy was literally on the other side of the north American continent from her.
“I feel unsafe” just means “I don’t have the means of getting rid of this person I dislike, so I demand that someone who does have the means do it.”
The Rittenhouse story on the left, by the way, as I’m picking it up piecemeal from a few leftists I know, seems to be that he was an “active shooter” who shot the people who were courageously trying to disarm him.
Per Rittenhouse, himself, he was enrolled in online courses; but, shouldn’t the school state that for student’s privacy/safety they cannot comment on someone’s enrollment?
That is a rhetorical question; because under the law colleges can publicly state who is or is not a student. This is mostly likely so that third parties can do a background check on a student to make sure that what a job hunter has on his resume is accurate.
However – and this is a very frightening to me – they can give out a student’s information such as name, age and place of birth as well as current address! OMG – I could just see some idiot in the registrar’s office giving out a student’s home address not caring (or more likely in Rittenhouse’s case, hoping) that something bad happens to that student.
Rittenhouse’s attorney said it right – it would be best if Kyle moved and changed his name. I fear that there are some out there who will do anything to “get justice” by harming or killing Rittenhouse.
It is a sad world we live in where others won’t let an innocent 18-year old just be a normal 18-year old.
Lastly, I’m with you Neo – I wouldn’t feel safe on any campus who allowed Students for Socialism on campus.
“I’d like to see Rittenhouse win a defamation lawsuit and get a lot of money. But I don’t think he’d prevail in such a suit because it’s hard to do if you’ve been criminally charged and tried, even if exonerated.” neo
It’s the exoneration by a jury of criminal charges that prevents those charges from invalidating a defamation lawsuit. Rittenhouse was proven innocent at trial, so there was and is no legal basis that allows for the harming of his reputation.
When ASU predictably submits to the demands that it publicly declare Rittenhouse to be a “white supremecist, racist murderer” that will open them up to a defamation lawsuit. He should go after the responsible individuals not just the University.
Since the aforementioned groups have already libeled Rittenhouse, every member of those groups is also open to a defamation lawsuit. So too with everyone who slanders or libels him.
Go get em Kyle!
— White supremacist is the most horrible thing a person can be in our current society. The criminal trial did not, in any possible way, involve white supremacy.
So, unlike other situations involving someone charged with a crime and tried, this is a separate and distinct slander. And that slander is clearly and provably damaging him.
— “That’s what leftists do – they lie and attempt to destroy lives”
What Democrat voters do — is vote for and support leftists as they lie, slander and destroy.
I think the Left is not just out to crucify anyone that runs afoul of their orthodoxy. I think they are also deliberately intimidating and even terrifying all of us who do not share their views in order to keep us silent or even mouthing their idiotic and evil views.
I feel intimidated and afraid quite often. I am hesitant to speak freely with relatives and friends who I know are Leftist. I am quite certain they will cancel me – yes, especially my relatives. They are virulently leftist. I already worry they suspect me. And I just don’t think it’s far off to believe we are on the verge of frank fascism here. What seemed to be paranoid fantasies are beginning to seem quite possible.
So yes. I had been expecting Kyle Rittenhouse to lose his dream to attend ASU. And now it has happened. Maybe he’s fortunate. It is a very large, very party oriented school with smart and engaged students but also a great many — probably the majority — who really ought not to be in college. I hope Hillsdale takes him.
Very hard to hold on to optimism.
Had Rittenhouse been potential Hillsdale fodder, he’d have been busy shoe shining and resume polishing and greasing his wing-tipped way into the favours of the right sorts of righty right big brain Agora Bums… not out patrolling the streets with a long gun. Also I doubt whether they (despite all the pretty talk) would stick their necks out for him.
He’d be well-served by making bank with his defamation suits and learning the ropes and building up a nice little earth moving machinery empire in his neck of the woods. There’ll be need for ditches, trenches, berms, and yes pits, later. Hillsdale Folks did nothing substantive to hold back the tide and will do nothing useful during the coming conflagration… If any survive, can wheel one out to write a preamble for the next Constitution.
I believe earlier today it was reported that Rittenhouse had withdrawn from the online classes. The snowflakes at ASU are now safe.
Rittenhouse’s attorney said it right – it would be best if Kyle moved and changed his name.
If his attorney actually did say that, I’d spit in his face.
I feel intimidated and afraid quite often. I am hesitant to speak freely with relatives and friends who I know are Leftist. I am quite certain they will cancel me – yes, especially my relatives. They are virulently leftist.
You might limit your interactions to non-toxic family members, and tell the toxic ones to get stuffed.
Hey Kyle,
Liberty University,
Hillsdale College,
Austin University
Choose wisely dude.
Jeanne,
“I think they are also deliberately intimidating and even terrifying all of us who do not share their views in order to keep us silent or even mouthing their idiotic and evil views.
I feel intimidated and afraid quite often. I am hesitant to speak freely with relatives and friends who I know are Leftist. I am quite certain they will cancel me – yes, especially my relatives.”
Many on the left are doing their level best to intimidate and even terrify we who disagree with their thinking and actions. Relatives and friends who would attack or cancel you would rather crush your soul than allow you to disagree with them. You’re going to have to decide if the damage to your soul is worth associating with those who place so little value upon you.
This is the URL of one of Neo’s links.
https://www.azfamily.com/news/asu-student-rally-against-rittenhouse-still-on/article_4a13be3c-5190-11ec-bc52-bf2c14eaf703.html
They are not rallying against Rittenhouse.
They are rallying against anyone who dares to oppose their agenda.
In reality, they aren’t after him.
They’re after you.
Kyle is just in their way.
https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fres.cloudinary.com%2Fteepublic%2Fimage%2Fprivate%2Fs–n5ffwKT9–%2Ft_Preview%2Fb_rgb%3A191919%2Cc_lpad%2Cf_jpg%2Ch_630%2Cq_90%2Cw_1200%2Fv1588948630%2Fproduction%2Fdesigns%2F9762727_2.jpg&f=1&nofb=1
The Sacramento Bee post that Neo linked is so ripe for fisking, I can’t even.
Oh well, why not!
https://www.sacbee.com/news/nation-world/national/article256203132.html
Props for not only the accuracy, but also the grammar.
So, they aren’t just claiming that he would be weaponizing the internet pixels against them. I was kind of concerned about ramping snowflakery up to that level, but it’s been done.
Because, of course they do.
Countdown to first news report of students complaining about people stealing THEIR stuff.
Since so many leftist icons are, in fact, “guilty as sin, free as a bird,” they believe it must be true of everyone.
And the flaw is that they didn’t get the verdict they wanted.
I’m not even going to attempt fisking that one, it’s so wrong on so many levels.
If it’s that unsafe, why are you still there?
Logic is not their strong point, and ASU’s educational rubber-room is probably not improving things.
A probably baseless assertion, stated without showing their evidence.
That’s okay when you are pushing Leftist mantras, though.
Well, they did link a story, but decide for yourself how much you want to bash college students for mouthing off in private. Please note that Leftists mouthing off is just juvenile high spirits IF you hear any stories about it at all.
https://www.statepress.com/article/2019/03/sppolitics-college-republicans-united-apologizes-for-racist-comments-vows-to-move-forward
And ignore that yearbook photo of the now-Democrat-governor in a Klan robe or blackface, whichever one he is.
No link for that deeming, and why are there two Republican clubs at one University anyway? There can’t be enough conservative students to go around.
Here’s some more information; it’s about what I expected.
https://azfreenews.com/2021/11/asu-college-republicans-united-fundraising-for-rittenhouses-anticipated-media-lawsuit/
At least the CRU was willing to put some serious money on the line. The CR(INO), apparently, was not.
(Okay, that may be unfair; however, I’m not going to devote any research to arbitrating in-group squabbles.)
Unlike GoFundMe.
Bravo for them! But it probably won’t happen because the administration won’t want the security headaches, the Socialists will throw a tantrum, and nothing productive will be done other than confirming that all the conservatives at ASU need to transfer out as soon as they can.
Because if they asked about him, they would have to ask about everyone.
Leftists are against people knowing the real (not “flawed”) criminal histories of job applicants, apartment & house renters, financial credit seekers, and especially potential trial witnesses.
I also think Kyle is better off going to an undeniably conservative college (even if he does naively support Black Lives Matter – the principle, not the grifter organization).
However, I also believe his matriculation should not be publicized, for his own safety.
https://babylonbee.com/news/progressive-elves-stage-walkout-to-protest-rittenhouse-inclusion-on-nice-list
On the other hand, Mr. Rittenhouse will never have to pay for a beer in Wisconsin.
This post ties to today’s top post, RE: alumni contributions.
To some alumni no college or university can be far enough left, to others a college or university needs to focus on its core mission of fact-based learning and education.
Ideally, the second group of alumni would be considerably larger than the first and would notify the college or university that they were terminating any and all contributions and support until such time as it resumed its original fact-based mission. We do not, however, live in an ideal world.
I’m looking forward to what Rittenhouse’s legal team is able to accomplish in the defamation arena, and I’m wondering if alumni are legally fair game in that endeavor. If a college or university is guilty of defamation – a contention that awaits confirmation in the legal arena but has been confirmed regarding corporations in the Sandmann incident – is not direct financial support of a defaming institution also subject to similar penalty?
If alumni contributions, which for most colleges and universities is a very important source of funding, carried liability for the illegal activities of said college or university (something which is awaiting confirmation or denial in the courts) it could change the financial picture for a great many institutions and force a return to what should be the core mission of higher education (that it would also cause the demise of borderline institutions may be a net positive effect).
I also think Kyle is better off going to an undeniably conservative college
I think Kyle is better off getting the vocational training which is well-adapted to his aptitudes and interests. That may or may not mean a baccalaureate-granting institution. Not sure why he thought the e-program at Arizona State is right for him. If what I’ve read is correct, he needs to work on an equivalency and get his feet wet at a community college first. Another alternative would be the service, though he’d have to put up with the ghastly chickensh!t people like Lloyd Austin and Mark Milley have larded on to military life.
Looking down the road, he’s better off married, though it’s imprudent to marry a woman who is under the age of 25.
Art Deco:
Oh, so you think you know Kyle’s aptitudes and interests?
He says he’s interested in becoming a nurse – or was, before all this happened. Now he’s also interested in perhaps becoming a lawyer instead.
If you watched his testimony on the stand or his interview with Tucker Carlson, you would (or should) have noticed that he’s extremely smart. I think he would make an excellent lawyer if that’s what he wants to do.
I assume that marriage and being a lawyer are not mutually exclusive.
Take names. Sue them for slander/libel (see if a class action case can be developed, but also make them answer individually).
Sue the social media that facilitated that slander/libel. Report the media to the FCC – it’s a violation of their rules.
Make ’em pay, as Nick Sanderson did – and, for God’s sake, Kyle needs to stop the interviews. They are not helping, and may hurt his claim to not be a public figure.
Oh, so you think you know Kyle’s aptitudes and interests?
I never suggested any such thing. I do know he left school at age 15. Since his family had a shortage of wage income, this seems sensible. Do not know what he’s done toward an equivalency in the years since.
you would (or should) have noticed that he’s extremely smart. I think he would make an excellent lawyer if that’s what he wants to do.
My impression is that he and his mother are articulate enough and think on their feet well enough to handle being put on the spot by someone asking questions. Most people are not and I’ve been told by criminal defense attorneys that it’s generally most imprudent to ever put your client on the stand even if they are innocent. Whether or not he has the full portfolio of skills which make a satisfactory lawyer, I cannot say.
I can say that it’s a terribly over-subscribed profession and I would never advise any young person I knew to attend law school. The number of JD’s minted each year exceeds the number adequate to staff the legal profession by about 1.5-fold. Divinity schools and seminaries generate this sort of reserve army of the unemployed; no other category of professional school does.
Art Deco:
You wrote: “I think Kyle is better off getting the vocational training which is well-adapted to his aptitudes and interests.” That indicates that you believe you know what those aptitudes and interests are. So yes, you did indeed “suggest” that you knew his aptitudes and and interests and that they were well-adapted to vocational training as opposed to a more academic route.
It is incredibly difficult to do what Rittenhouse did on the stand, and it takes extremely unusual self-possession, precision of expression, and remarkable intelligence. Such attributes would suit him very well for an academic degree or law should he have the interest, an interest he himself expressed in a recent interview.
}}} could be an opportunity for some actual education on the part of the ASU administration and faculty on the meaning of a public educational institution of higher learning, whether psychological “safety” is the goal, and what the rule of law is all about.
Actually — it could be an opportunity for ALL the students at ASU to actually LEARN WHAT HAPPENED and stop parroting ignorant nonsense.
Nawwww… :-/
}}} But I don’t think he’d prevail in such a suit because it’s hard to do if you’ve been criminally charged and tried, even if exonerated. That’s one of powers prosecutors have over our lives.
I would question this, simply because the allegations — the slander/libel — had nothing whatsoever to do with the charges.
You wrote: “I think Kyle is better off getting the vocational training which is well-adapted to his aptitudes and interests.” That indicates that you believe you know what those aptitudes and interests are.
It indicates nothing of the kind. It indicates that I think one should not enroll in tertiary schooling until one has assessed what one can handle and what one’s objects are. Half of each cohort manages to get by without a baccalaureate degree, by the way. (Someone suggested Hillsdale College. Hillsdale is a school that emphasizes academics and the arts; of it’s 42 degree programs, about 30 are in liberal subjects, 12 in vocational subjects; they cover the main business disciplines; the rest of their occupational majors are an odd jumble and none include any of Kyle’s known interests; Hillsdale’s a niche product).
Not surprised there’s whining coming from the little Hitlers at ASU, this is the school where “activist” students chased Kyrsten Sinema into the bathroom & had two coeds “of color” (slightly mocha if memory serves) chase two white guys out of a student union for wearing pro-cop t-shirts.
Kyle should look into Grand Canyon Univ. in Phoenix.
Last I heard it’s church affiliated with a good business school, nice campus & a modestly conservative atmosphere–but no football team.
Kyle Rittenhouse did finish a high school. He had a difficult home life and worked two jobs while finishing high school though Penn Foster, a self-paced on-line correspondence school. It’s accredited. It’s not a GED.
I think he picked ASU because it’s reasonably affordable ish, on line, easy to enroll, and many of the courses are transferable if you decide to matriculate. Unlike a lot of other college online continuing ed crap.
ASU deserves a special place in hell for capitulating to the ignorant lefties. Someone, somewhere needs to grow a spine.
There are nice small Universities in Red States where Kyle could experience a normal life. Like Carroll College in Helena Montana. Unlike Bozeman, Helena is a beautiful Capital City that hasn’t lost it’s Western feel. University of Wyoming in Laramie, has become more liberal in the two decades I witnessed, but it still has a lot of rural kids from conservative backgrounds. Kyle should avoid Colorado. It is now a Blue State that has grown drastically in popularity and population.
The new comers to Montana and Wyoming tend to go to more trendy places like Missoula and Bozeman. When I was growing up Bozeman was a cow town that rolled up the streets at night. I went to the University of Montana in Missoula and did summer courses at Montana State in Bozeman. They are both good schools. My niece currently goes to Bozeman and she is not ‘Woke’. But if you are famous like Kyle, the more conservative the better.
‘Note the contrast between Reagan and Biden, who as candidate falsely and maliciously labeled the 17-year-old Rittenhouse a white supremacist, a charge the Arizona leftist students are employing.’
Biden IMHO has dementia. However, he was never great and was always a ‘jerk’ underneath his friendly personality. His comments about Rittenhouse are unconscionable and demonstrate how ridiculous he is.
I think he picked ASU because it’s reasonably affordable ish, on line, easy to enroll, and many of the courses are transferable if you decide to matriculate. Unlike a lot of other college online continuing ed crap.
I think in-state is almost always more affordable than out of state, but perhaps it’s different for e-programs.
finishing high school though Penn Foster, a self-paced on-line correspondence school. It’s accredited. It’s not a GED.
Thanks. Didn’t catch that.
JHCorcoran,
I attended a wedding in Missoula many years ago. It was a blast! I was really impressed with the city and its residents. And an incredibly beautiful setting!
@ Lee > “ASU deserves a special place in hell for capitulating to the ignorant lefties.”
There is a special circle for them somewhere between 8 (fraud) and 9 (treachery).
However, it’s getting crowded.
https://historylists.org/art/9-circles-of-hell-dantes-inferno.html