Trump asks “Miss me yet?”
Apparently they do, even in those all-important swing states:
Trump’s shadow campaign also recently polled Trump-Biden matchups in the five states, all of which were decided in 2020 by fewer than 3 percentage points. According to the poll, a memo of which was obtained by POLITICO, the former president led Biden in Arizona by 8 percentage points, Georgia by 3 points, Michigan by 12 points, Pennsylvania by 6 points and Wisconsin by 10 points.
The poll numbers send a message to those who think Trump’s grip on the Republican Party is loosening, said Tony Fabrizio, a top GOP pollster who conducted the surveys for Trump’s super PAC…
So these polls were conducted on behalf of Trump. But I have no problem believing that most areas that are not deep blue are now looking back with some fondness on Trump’s presidency, however they may have really voted in 2020.
Those who believe that meaningful and massive fraud occurred in 2020 would probably say that Trump was ahead in those states even a year ago. But whatever was the case then, my guess is that he’s quite a bit ahead now. I also suspect that “generic Republican” or “Ron DeSantis” would also be strongly ahead at the moment.
“Ron DeSantis” sounds good to me.
I do miss him, with qualifications. My own tentative preference is that he pass the torch. He’ll be 78 years old in 2024.
Trump I don’t miss, nor do I miss Ivanka or Jared. What I do miss are Trump’s policies, or at least what he said we was going to do, that is until his favorite child purred “oh daddy. that wall is so icky. What will all my friends back in NYC say?”
What’s to miss? The rats in the FBI, DOJ, DOD, etc. are still in control, although the media has taken a lot of hits, but yes indeed I do miss President Trump. I don’t miss Bill Barr, “nothing to see, run the clock out.” Barr, all talk, no inditements; he was a collassal disappointment.
Trump will continue to have a hold on the GOP as long as NeverTrump doofuses like THIS guy have anything to say about it.
https://twitter.com/AGHamilton29/status/1463338259589877764
He wants to make the argument that Trump literally accomplished NOTHING of value in office, or at least nothing Jeb Bush or Marco Rubio wouldn’t have done. He has to make that argument because it’s the only way he can excuse himself for preferring Biden winning in 2020.
These people are at war with reality and you never win that fight.
Mike
I wish he were still President. Like others, I wish he would gracefully pass the torch, and do it now.
I also wish I would win the lottery.
If he asked me, I would tell him that he has a choice. Announce that he will throw his full weight behind the GOP nominee when identified. Or, if he can’t wait, make his pick–between DeSantis or Pompeo (IMO)– and go all in for his candidate; with the caveat that he will still support the nominee whoever it is.
At any rate, he should offer his services to any 2022 candidate who wishes to have them.
I too wish he were still President. I think he should pass the torch to DeSantis and no other republican candidate. Trump stating that he’ll back whomever the GOP nominates would IMO be a fatal mistake.
Nope.
Standard disclaimers about entire System throwing up a storm of antibodies to impede anything he might have done blah blah yadda.
Had he been a contestant on his ridiculous low IQ reality TV show, he’d have had to fire himself. You either make it work with what you’ve got or you don’t. In which case it’s still on you. Excuses are for Losers.
And then to kindle something on January 6 and then slink away and disavow the victims. Cowardly and shameful.
Sure… show up *after* the Rittenhouse Trial and shake his hand.
He’s served his role in the great historical farce — ripped back the curtain and shown those who can see how their government works. That’s plenty.
Next time hopefully someone who isn’t a total pathological narcissist and has a better grasp of reality and complex systems. Note that being able to read people’s weaknesses and instantly cut through their defences and humiliate or flatter them per Trump is great stuff… but not sufficient.
I would like to see a politician who is not “a pathological narcissist.” Having said that, I think Trump needs to be kingmaker and not candidate. The trouble is that few politicians are trustworthy, as Trump is. I don’t like his speeches or tweets but he did a better job than anyone since Reagan.
Zaphod,
While in general I agree as to Trump’s flaws, the overt and covert political realities Trump faced would have derailed the most skillful of actors. Leaders cannot get too far ahead of their troops.
Ripping back the curtain was a prerequisite for smashing the yet to be gutted federal leviathan. That gutting is the job of the next real President. I suspect that DeSantis may be that man, if not no one else (not even Cruz) appears to have “the sand if their craw” needed to succeed. Rather than a lawyer, we need an Alexander that will cut through the Gordian Knot of our political and societal dysfunctional. No need to ‘understand’ our ‘complex’ systems, we need someone who will disband them for they are strangling our liberties.
You cannot rule over and build upon corruption.
@GB:
Agree re Alexander / Caesar. You don’t want a lawyer. But you do want someone who has a bit more of a clue than the idiots who de-Baathified Iraq. Brutal surgery on the Administrative State is required. But not a total razing to the ground. (BTW anyone quotes that communist playwright Bolt on More vs Roper here again and I’m calling in an air strike :P). Some suitably cowed and winnowed remnant will be needed to keep the wheels turning.
The guy who runs the Worthy House blog has done some ruminating on When Caesar Comes.
I’m Black Pilled about the current situation, but there’s still gold in them thar hills.
DeSantis could be the one. Certainly Cruz is not.
I voted for Trump twice. I hope he does not run. I think DeSantis should be the nominee.
God I miss Trump. I used to wake up every morning wondering; “What’s he done/said now?
So much winning.
So much fun.
I miss Trump as POTUS. I hope he has the desire and vigor necessary to successfully run for president in 2024 and serve out that 2nd term, and that the torch gets passed to DeSantis in 2028.
LET’S Go Brandon.
LET’S members of the Democrat Party.
Important article by Aaron Mate on the profligate lies, subterfuge and conspiracy that the Corrupt Media employed to try to take down Trump.
The perps refer to their lying coverage and endless slanders as a “mistake”, which admission is just another layer of the egregious coverup.
Liars to the end, they just cannot help themselves:
“Five Trump-Russia ‘Collusion’ Corrections We Need From The Media Now”
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/five-trump-russia-collusion-corrections-we-need-media-now
nor do I miss Ivanka or Jared.
What did they do that so irritated you? NB, what they actually did and said is distinct from your imagination, other people’s speculation, and anonymous (most likely imaginary) ‘sources’.
Trump will continue to have a hold on the GOP as long as NeverTrump doofuses like THIS guy have anything to say about it.
There is no popular NeverTrump constituency and the NeverTrump residue in the commentariat are shills whose audience consists of political professionals and of liberals looking for validation. (The successor to the Audit Bureau of Circulations says NR retains 131,000 subscribers; given that there are over 100,000 libraries in the US, wagers there are a great many institutional subscriptions in that set). The NeverTrump problem is not found in the public, but in the Capitol Hill / K Street nexus and a few other redoubts like the Bush family and their retainers. Your problem there is the Congressional Republican caucus, which usually puts insipid and / or odious characters in leadership positions (Robert Michel, Dennis Hastert, John Boehner, Kevin McCarthy, Trent Lott, and the worst of the bunch, Mitch McConnell). If the congressional caucus wishes to show Republican voters that it’s their concerns and not the concerns of donors which trump, McConnell and McCarthy will be sent to the back benches in January 2023. Not holdin’ my breath.
Trump stating that he’ll back whomever the GOP nominates would IMO be a fatal mistake.
Recall that John Anderson’s campaign in 1980 was the last gasp of the liberal Republicans in presidential politics. Over the period running from 1932 to 1980, they fielded a competitive candidate in nearly every year in which no Republican incumbent was standing for renomination (1960 the one exception). Richard Nixon’s brass-tacks policy preferences were a good deal closer to Nelson Rockefeller’s than they were to Ronald Reagan’s, Gerald Ford tended to be deferential to them, and Dwight Eisenhower was not their antagonist. Since 1980, they’ve been completely absent and have disappeared from Congress as well.
With that analogy in mind, I think it’s possible that Fredocon Donorist candidates (Bush pere, Dole, Bush fils, McCain, Romney, Kasich, Rubio) are simply no longer salable in Presidential politics. Push came to shove, five of the seven people on that list stuck a knife in the back of the Republican candidate and his supporters. Whichever side they were on, it wasn’t ours.
Notice that the article did not give the top line numbers in the polls, only the spreads. Biden is polling in the high 30s to low 40s nationwide, probably lower in swing states. Against that backdrop, 10 and 12 point statewide leads really aren’t that impressive. For example, 44-32 would be a 12 point lead, but hardly an indication that voters are clamoring for more Trump.
Also, a six point lead in Pennsylvania in this environment is more concerning than encouraging.
Trump 2024. No passing of torches.
Notice that the article did not give the top line numbers in the polls,
Yeah, we’ll do so much better with John Kasich. Thanks for your wisdom.
Art Deco – Yes, because everyone who criticizes Trump is obviously a closet John Kasich supporter, and probably a former Lehman Brothers employee too!
Hoping that DeSantis will be the nominee with Trump running interference. What a duo they would make on the camaign trail!
Art Deco – Yes, because everyone who criticizes Trump is obviously a closet John Kasich supporter, and probably a former Lehman Brothers employee too!
It’s a binary choice, Bauxite. You get Trump or another politician who incorporates Trump’s essential insights; or you get the Capitol Hill / K-Street nexus in the form of whatever politician embodies that this year.
Art Deco – Give me a politician who incorporates Trump’s basic insights without acting like Trump and I’m happy as a clam. Based on what I’ve seen so far, I’d be thrilled with DeSantis in 2024, for example.
I really don’t get you Trump dead-enders. You can go on about “mean tweets” all you want, but Trump’s behavior clearly gives away gettable votes. Biden/Harris’s best chance for reelection is for Trump to be the Republican nominee. Swing district Democrats’ best chance of beating the wave next year is to have Trump get involved in their races.
It seems to me that the best outcome for Trump supporters would be to find a candidate who incorporates Trump’s essential insight, as you say, without Trump’s baggage.
I really don’t get you Trump dead-enders. You can go on about “mean tweets” all you want, but Trump’s behavior clearly gives away gettable votes. Biden/Harris’s best chance for reelection is for Trump to be the Republican nominee. Swing district Democrats’ best chance of beating the wave next year is to have Trump get involved in their races.
People’s shortcomings and strengths are usually intertwined. Biden will not be standing for re-election; if Harris is the candidate, she will with scant doubt be the incumbent and be so because Janet Yellen and the more public-spirited members of the cabinet tell Dr. Jill that this weekend-at-Bernie’s performance has run its course.
Bauxite appears at times to be ever so close to a Never Trumper. “Trump dead-enders” must be a compliment? Have we beaten our wives lately, Bauxite?
Is Ron DeSantis not icky enough for you and your oh so sensitive upstanding progressive associates?
Referring back to GB’s response to my assertion that Trump should make it clear that he will support the GOP candidate. As we all know, national elections are binary. While I want DeSantis, and I think he can win unless Trump divides the GOP vote, the electorate is unfathomable (Biden is President). No matter who the nominee is, it has to be the GOP candidate since the country cannot tolerate another four years of the lunacy that now characterizes the Democrat Party. Everyone has to be unequivocal about that.
Republicans and conservatives should not let the Democratic Party succeed in eliminating the only candidate Dems are afraid of – Donald Trump.
Oldflyer,
“it has to be the GOP candidate since the country cannot tolerate another four years of the lunacy that now characterizes the Democrat Party.”
My issue with anyone, as long as they’re a repubican… is that the great majority of GOP candidates are RINOs, which means maintenance of the status quo as it currently stands.
That is a tried and true formula for simply a slower march to the gallows for America.
No RINO is going to seriously work to roll back the gains that the dems have achieved. They enable the Deep State, Congress and regulatory bureaucracies ratcheting away of our liberties.
Sadly, it seems to me that VDH very nicely sums up our current situation.*
A situation in which all of the main “pillars” of our society, those pillars we absolutely need to have functioning correctly to have any chance at all of our society being and remaining stable, productive, relatively violence free, to be and to be perceived to be fair and satisfactory, and to last, have—one by one–been corrupted, and those who now run these organizations have just gone mad, refusing to see the cliff, the disintegration that both their actions and their refusals to act are pushing, rushing our society towards.
If VDH is right in his diagnosis, I just don’t see how our society can continue to be relatively stable and to function.
Dissolution into chaos, violence, and anarchy seems pretty inevitable, yet, those who are driving us toward the cliff and, moreover, those who could have some chance of stopping this rush toward doom seem ensourceled, on the one hand blind to the onrushing peril their statements and actions are creating, on the other incapable of taking any decisive and effective action to stop this headlong rush to doom.
* https://amgreatness.com/2021/11/24/losing-confidence-in-the-pillars-of-our-civilization/
P.S. Of course, another possibility could be that many, perhaps most of those who are pushing us closer and closer toward the cliff are not blind, neither are they ignorant, or misdirected but, instead, they know exactly what they are doing, and have a pretty good idea of what the effects of their statements and actions and failures to act will be, and are very deliberately trying to “fundamentally transform” i.e. chip away at, weaken, and eventually to destroy our traditional society and civilization as constituted.
Fool or knave all over again.
@ Zaphod > “(BTW anyone quotes that communist playwright Bolt on More vs Roper here again and I’m calling in an air strike :P).”
Here on this thread specifically, or just generally?
And what do you have against Mr Bolt and/or Sir Thomas?
https://www.thenewneo.com/2021/11/24/verdicts-of-guilty-in-the-arbery-case/#comment-2590970
@ Kentucky Packrat > “There may come a time when the vigilance committees come back and private justice starts occurring for crimes. I pray they don’t, because then justice gets cheap and rare. As Roper was told, the land is planted thick with laws, and when we cut them all down, where do we turn for shelter when the devil turns back around on us?”
I was thinking just this morning that in all the weeks of trial-watching, I had not yet seen a reference to what is usually one of the most quoted movies on this board.
@AesopFan:And what do you have against Mr Bolt and/or Sir Thomas?
Not sure about Zaphod, but More’s complicity in the torture and killing of Protestants tarnishes his halo a bit for me. There was a lot of that going around then, I get that. It’s great that he took a principled stand that cost him his life, not everyone does that, but it was on the King’s marriage and not on the torture and killing of Protestants and I’d be more impressed if it had been the other way around.
(Let me hasten to add I don’t support the torture-and-killing of anyone on account of their faith, it’s not just Protestants. There are people who think if you only mention one thing you are excluding everything else. I’m aware that Protestants did it too when they had the power to do so.)
More wrote engagingly and well, and so he tends to get treated as one of history’s “good guys”. Much of our source material form that time is his writing and so we’re predisposed to take his side on things.
My main post above at 7:37, when discussing who can stop our headlong rush toward the cliff, assumes the “Big Man Theory” in action i.e. that at certain key points in history one or more “Big Men” will appear–extremely influential individuals whose statements and actions move events in one direction or the other and, thus, determine the lives of men and the course and fate of nations.
Given the current situation here in the U.S., though, it may well be that the Left occupies so many positions of power, and that things on so many key battlefields have degenerated so far that just a man or two—no matter how influential–will not be able to stop the headlong rush towards disaster, and that the only way to stop our rush towards the precipice is for many millions of “small men” to “Resist,” to stand up and to say “Enough!”, “No!,” Stop!, Change Course!.
Just as the actions of many men and women—small and large–helped to bring down the Soviet Union and free it’s satellite countries, perhaps the same process is what is needed here in the U.S.
PPS—lt was the “Great Man “ not the “Big Man” theory.
“…Trump’s behavior clearly gives away gettable votes.”
True, but the Trump approach–including the “behavior” that so troubles a certain class of voters–attracts and motivates many, many voters who either wouldn’t vote at all, or might vote Democrat (as against those snooty, country-club types).
I personally will in all probability vote for the Republican nominee, whoever it may be, as I have in every Presidential election since 1980. But I would vote very reluctantly for a “moderate,” and enthusiastically for Trump or Disantis, or whoever credibly stands for an end to business as usual (unusually usual in the past few years).
I think that you have to take into account that something over 90% of nominal Republicans agree with me, if the polls count for anything.
Trump’s strength (and his weakness) is that the media cannot define him for the general public. There are very few people for whom this can be said. Hillary Clinton was one in 2016, and so I believe that only Trump could have beat Clinton in 2016. He could have beat no other Democrat, and she could have beat any other Republican.
At the moment Joe Biden cannot be defined by the media for the general public. He is President now, all the low-information voters know who he is and seem to have an opinion about him.
Any Republican but Trump will be unknown to the public at large and they will only be hearing about him through the lens of a hostile media. Remember that almost no normal people think or talk about politicians in their daily lives. No normal person is paying attention to any policy positions or platforms.
I think Trump beats Biden handily, the public knows Biden now and they don’t seem to like what’s going on on his watch. But if not Biden, I don’t know who they’ll get and how the public will take them. Trump is known and if the public likes the media-created hagiography of the Democrat better, he loses. If it’s not Trump and not Biden, the media will try to slide the candidates into their stock Democrat-good-Republican-Nazi narratives. (McCain’s dismay and anger about being slotted into this role by a media he thought liked him was something to behold…) The media may fail this time, they did with Bush and Gore back when the media had lots more credibility with the public.
One way to appreciate just how profound and deep a fundamental transformation is already on the way to being brought into being here in the US is to view this creation of tribalism, violence, uncertainty, insecurity, mistrust, and lack of confidence in our key institutions as a transformation intended to transform the US from having been an almost uniquely workable, cooperative, and relatively safe and peaceful “high trust” society— one in which substantial social and economic progress has been made—into the type of unsatisfactory low trust society which generally prevails in the rest of the world.
A “low trust” society in which any and every person and institution outside of your immediate family or group is just naturally an object of suspicion—is your natural enemy—someone or some institution which is out to hurt you, cheat you, or to rob you of what is yours, out to do you or your family, neighborhood, city, state, or particular group dirty.
Such a low trust society is—to one degree or the other— a “failed society”, one in which very little trust and cooperation is evident, chaos and violence are high and, thus, a society in which it is very hard to make any substantial or lasting social or economic progress.
@ Frederick > “Not sure about Zaphod, but More’s complicity in the torture and killing of Protestants tarnishes his halo a bit for me.”
Your observations were correct, and I agree. However, the popular view of More is informed mostly by the play, which is still excellent, regardless of his off-stage character and policies.
One might argue that it is not good to dramatize hagiography, but that ship sailed a long time ago.
I just don’t remember anything particularly socialist about Bolt’s spin in that play, and the fact (Wikipedia quotes a source for it) that Bolt was a communist is strikingly irrelevant to the cited maxim in the context that most people attach to it.
Perhaps it had something to do with a subtle reference to the communists’ attempts (successful) to tarnish HUAC, but it’s unclear which direction his spin was taking. “A Man for All Seasons” was published the same year Wiki says Bolt left the Communist Party, so it was written at least a year or so earlier, allowing for production lead times.
See my very long series of comments about Bella Dodd on the 11/26 “Trust” post, to which Snow’s excellent comment was promoted.
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Wikipedia “After the war, Bolt joined the Communist Party of Great Britain, but he left it in the late 1960s after the Soviet invasion of Czechoslovakia”
Their source.
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1991-06-09-ca-670-story.html
“Bolt, now a repentant ex-Communist, still clings fast to socialist ideals, and cares little for Reagan:”
Beats me how they are related.
Riffing on More again, with absolutely no doctrinal or historic support (and off the top of my head because I’m too tired to do any more research on anything), but I would put it this way in a play or book:
Suppose one especially egregious factor in his adamant refusal to bow to the King’s divorce was animated BY his burning of the Protestants?
They were condemned because they were heretics challenging, even denying, the right of the Pope to rule all Christians under the authority of the Roman Catholic Church.
Henry, previously lauded for being a defender of the RCC and the Pope, turned a hard 180 and rejected both in favor of his own ecclesiastical primacy.
In that case, why wouldn’t More push back strongly to avoid a huge guilt trip about killing people in the service of a rank opportunist instead of a principled Man of the Faith?
Even if he died for it, he was defending his own actions.
Change my mind.
Just noticed this at Wikipedia: “Adapted from a radio play Bolt had written in 1954, it is generally regarded as Bolt’s finest work – and certainly his most successful.”
If the line in question is in the original (which it probably was), then-communist Bolt would certainly be cautioning HUAC et al. to avoid “cutting down all the laws” anywhere.
Kind of cynical, though, considering what the Left was doing.
That “cynical” should probably be “ironic” instead, since Bolt appears to have been, like Dodd, a true believer in the beginning, who only later learned he was being used by the Communists.
They call them Useful Idiots even if they are otherwise very intelligent.
The really intelligent ones eventually stop being Useful.