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  1. Interesting that the original film was made in 1919. Everything looks so peaceful and well-ordered; men making hay bales; women in traditional Sunday-best costumes; horses beautifully groomed for display at what looks like a fair or maybe a market day. When I located the date of the original, I couldn’t help thinking that the Netherlands was so lucky to avoid the fate of Belgium and northern France in 1914 just 5 years earlier. Belgium lies directly to the south and west of Zeeland.

    So I poked around out of curiosity and found a 25-minute film of Woodrow Wilson’s visit to Belgium in June 1919. The first part of the black-and white silent film shows Wilson’s reception at a train station, followed by a lunch with the King and Queen and the usual group of diplomats and military brass. Then around 7:01, the film shifts; the visitors are shown walking around the ruins of a town (which I am 90% sure is Ypres, whose famous 13th-century Cloth Hall was blasted by German and Allied shells from 1914 to the end of the war) that had not yet been rebuilt. This section of the film runs from 7:01 to about 9:52. Maybe Neo can cue the film to show only this portion.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DLVu-Mjw14&ab_channel=JohanR.Ryheul

    I then went back to look again at the film of Zeeland that Neo posted– its atmosphere of quiet well-being and contentment is all the more refreshing by contrast.

  2. I was surprised that it was post WWI and not pre WWI.
    Farm work a mix of by hand and with mechanical equipment.
    I have been Ypres several times and in the reconstructed Cloth Hall. It is now a museum showing the horrors of WWI.

  3. Just another example that THE most important factor that determines the wealth of a nation (i.e., the well being of the average citizen) is their culture.
    So here we have Holland, whose land mass today is larger than it was 150 years ago (due to reclamation of land once submerged under water) , that essentially is a resource poor nation, yet whose standard of living is very high.
    There are many resource rich nations whose average standard of living is in the toilet and the opposite is also true.

    The notion that some nations are impoverished or perennially at the bottom of the socio-economic ladder because of colonialism or imperialism is really bullshit; they are at the bottom because their culture is incompatible with developing any sort of politico-economic system that will benefit the majority of their citizens.
    It’s no coincidence that many – but certainly not all – of these bottom-dwelling nations have tribal cultures.

  4. Neo;

    I’m the last person to disagree with Tom Sowell; I have read many of his books and they have profoundly influenced my thinking about politics, economics, culture, social issues, etc.

    No doubt geography is a very significant factor in the development (or lack thereof) of a society or nation, but different cultures will adapt in different ways when confronting the same set of geographic (or climate; e.g., Arctic) challenges.

    The geography and climate of Western Europe and N.America are not that different. Yet, Europeans were hundreds (thousands?) of years ahead of the stone-age N. American Indian tribes they encountered when they began exploring N. America.
    Why did the Europeans develop much sooner than the Native Americans?

    I have no idea, and I don’t think anyone really knows.

  5. John Tyler:

    Of course, geography isn’t everything, although in some cases (such as Africa) it can be a lot.

    I don’t see Western Europe and North America as similar geographically, actually. First of all, North America is FAR bigger and the population far less dense, even a while back. Secondly, parts of North America were fairly highly developed (Mexico, for example) before many parts of Europe. Europe was actually pretty backward for quite some time. The theories about why it surged ahead in the most recent millennium are varied, but here’s an interesting one.

  6. }}} JohnTyler et al:

    Highly recommended, P.J. O’Rourke’s “Eat The Rich”
    https://www.amazon.com/Eat-Rich-Treatise-Economics-ORourke/dp/0871137607
    (neo, couldn’t activate/access your amazon link, feel free to add needed info to apply it, here)

    O’Rourke identified 10 national economic basket cases, and 10 national success cases, visited them, and tried to figure out what, exactly, was why the basket cases were BC, and the successful ones successes.

    Surprisingly, perhaps, democracy and freedom, in basis, was not the real cause.

    His conclusion was that it was essentially free markets + rule of law.

    I think it’s O’Rourke’s second best book (“Parliament of Whores” is #1, with “Give War A Chance” a close third)

  7. @Neo:

    Aware of the higher prevalence of autism diagnoses in males.

    I’m suggesting in relation to that article I linked that Autism today is a very convenient socially acceptable catch-all diagnosis for a lot of female dysfunctions which are not on the Qantas Never Crashes spectrum.

    There was a time when crazy and troublesome females were diagnosed with ‘Neurasthenia’, for example. That one has definitely gone out of fashion.

    Similarly, preponderantly female primary school teachers and single mothers are likely driving the increasing diagnosis of boys with ADHD. A clip behind the ear or an hour of violent rugby probably better than drugging them out of their wits… but neither are solutions likely to occur or be agreeable to female caregivers.

  8. John Tylor, an old-ish book “Guns Germs and Steel” does an analysis of why Europe came to dominate the world. I don’t necessarily buy the explanation but it is a useful look at the sort of arguments that need to be made to explain such a situation.

  9. It’s still early in the weekend but below is the count of gun deaths in Chicago so far.
    I saw a cute comparison chart of Houston and Chicago. It noted gun violence deaths (strongly dominated by ChiTown of course), and then potentially explanatory factors like population, number of gun stores (0 in Chicago), strength of gun laws (Chicago wins easily) and finally average daily temperature. Houston had the temp category sewed up so the conclusion reached was: Gun violence is highly correlated with temps therefore gun violence is due to Global Warming.

    27 shot, 1 fatally so far:
    https://abc7chicago.com/27-shot-1-fatally-in-chicago-weekend-violence-/11075033/

  10. I saw a bear yesterday. It crossed the road in front of me. It was quite large and looked pretty healthy.

  11. I’m suggesting in relation to that article I linked that Autism today is a very convenient socially acceptable catch-all diagnosis for a lot of female dysfunctions which are not on the Qantas Never Crashes spectrum.

    Zaphod:

    I can see what you’re getting at and tend to agree, though I’m not sure how one might prove it.

    I take a similar view of the current stats that female-to-male trans are more prevalent than male-to-female trans. I’ve known a number of male cross-dressers (a basic level of trans IMO) and they were responding to a central concern of their sexual fantasies. I’ve never known a woman, including lesbians, who was operating out of core fantasies in which she wished to be a man or dress like one.

    Which is not to say there are no such women, but I doubt anywhere near as many as men on the other side of that equation and certainly not more.

    I could be wrong, but I suspect women trans are usually solving a different order of problem than men trans.

    Of course, today’s society has incentivized trans so much, it’s hard to say who is responding to what.

  12. huxley; Zaphod:

    Agree about female-to-male trans being a new craze (encouraged partly by social media) for girls who are having general difficulties in adolescence re body image, etc.. This did not used to be the case, although there were other diagnoses popular. They often involved cutting and/or anorexia.

    For boys, there’s been a proliferation of ADD and ADHD diagnoses, sometimes used to control the energy of boys who don’t flourish in today’s female-dominated academic environment.

    As far as autism goes, it used to be diagnosed only in the very withdrawn. In recent years the much milder category that used to be called Asperger’s has been merged with more severe autism to create a single category with subtypes. I haven’t looked into it very recently, but my impression is that some of the increase in diagnoses has stemmed from that.

  13. An online buddy (while noting that Germany ran out of coal and it’s cost of electricity is at the highest level in the history of the world) notes that the effects are spilling over. Dutch “glasshouses” are being shutdown and they are significant contributors to the Euro annual food supply.
    Who knew?
    Anyway, not at all sure of the severity of the situation, doubtless things are more or less under control.
    However this link with a vid and some still photos gives an idea of the extent of these facilities for a single town.
    https://www.designboom.com/art/tom-hegen-aerial-photography-dutch-greenhouses-10-28-2019/

  14. Neo —

    It’s not just teenagers. Brendan O’Neill of Sp!ked had a recent podcast with anathematized Seattle lesbian journalist Katie Herzog. I’ll cue it up to Brendan’s question that starts the relevant bit:

    https://youtu.be/r0o7_7CyjrI?t=1082

    “The number of dykes, of former lesbians I know who have transitioned over the past ten years is shocking. I’m not talking about teenagers, I’m talking about grown-ass women…. This is happening at such a bizarre rate that is almost impossible to describe, and when I talk about it people do not believe me…. I think it’s a social contagion.”

  15. Why let facts get in the way of a good story?

    “Aware” … after it was pointed out bwahaha

  16. Re Schoolgirl Tranny Craze:

    With apologies to JBS Haldane and all the very sane and well-adjusted ladies present:

    Women are not only crazier than we imagine, they are crazier than we *can* imagine.

    One can say various things about men, granted… but men get feedback from both other men and to the nth power from the women in their lives.

    Under the present C21 Western dispensation, women mostly get positive feedback from women and the media (but I repeat myself). The negative feedback they get from other women is predominantly to keep the school of fish pointed in the same temporary direction and to maintain female pecking orders. But negative feedback from men? The kind that restrains female antisocial and civilizationally destructive behaviors? Increasingly dangerous.

    You don’t need to be a classical dynamic systems theorist mapping Laplace Transformed loci in the complex plane to figure out that ripping a negative feedback path out of the social system might give rise to instabilities.

    In the old days when a nunnery of women went nuts and started having visions and carrying on like every second scene in a Peter Greenaway (*) film, the solution was to send in some exorcists and if that failed an Inquisitor to put the fire out Red Adair style. What’s needed is a Discontinuity. A rent in the quotidian fabric. A Catharsis. That’s a Man Thing.

    *Early Life Check: He’s a *Welsh* degenerate!

  17. Bryan Lovely:

    Great YouTube excerpt! Thanks for cutting us to the chase.

    A few years ago I discovered Pat Califia, the top dog SM Lesbian from the 80s, is now Patrick Califia.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_Califia

    She was a friend of a friend in my San Francisco days. I met her once. I admired an article she had published in the “CoEvolution Quarterly,” a Whole Earth publication. We discussed growing up Mormon versus growing up Catholic. Leather aside and general braininess, she seemed a standard-issue San Francisco dyke. I read up on a fair amount of her writing. (Not recommended for this audience.)

    Today I can’t relate her Patrickness to her previous Patness other than a need to stay on the cutting-edge. Of course, I’m barely an acquaintance and a straight male to boot, so who am I to say. But damn, it’s weird to see her bald and with a beard.

    https://www.azquotes.com/picture-quotes/quote-by-coming-out-to-ourselves-we-free-up-the-energy-we-spent-keeping-a-part-of-ourselves-patrick-califia-67-31-93.jpg

  18. huxley —

    That’s about the level of connection I had to filk [sic] singer Heather Alexander, now Alexander James Adams. I was introduced to her once in 2000 or so as part of a group of friends who had at least met her a few times at other SF conventions. And then the next time I gave her any thought it was because she had suddenly transitioned. Alrighty then.

  19. We have a niece who decided about 10 years ago (in college, of course) that she was a lesbian, and then transitioned chemically & physically to “Male.”
    (If you ain’t XY, you ain’t a guy.)

    I haven’t delved into the subject with her directly, but my feeling is that her main complaint was that large-bodied women who liked mannish activities (she played football in HS!) and had a personality type more often found on the male side of the normal curve (not unknown in women, just not as frequent) induced her to just say “what the heck, might as well look like a guy too!” – because society as a whole does not give a lot of support to women of that persuasion.
    huxley’s Pat-to-Patrick, and the other older transitioners, may fit that scenario as well.

    However, I think it’s pretty clear that today it is more of a fad than a considered response.
    I don’t have a lot of confidence in most of Freud’s theories, and Zaphod’s nunnery example is not fully determinate, but there is a reason Dr. Sigmund used* the term “hysteria” for some of his patients (even if he did fudge the data unethically).

    *He did not coin it, however. The Emotional Madness attributed mostly to women is historically archaic. See “The Bacchae” by Euripides.

    https://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/hysteria

    https://www.greekmythology.com/Plays/Euripides/The_Bacchae/the_bacchae.html

    I produced/directed that play and “Lysistrata” in college. Fun times.

  20. JimNorCal – fascinating pictures of the Dutch greenhouses.
    In the context of your comment, the aphorism on Hegen’s website is rather ominous: “LASCIATE OGNI SPERANZA O VOI CHE ENTRATE”
    (divine comedy, dante alighieri)

    He seems to be of the ‘ban capitals’ school that we’ve heard of lately.
    https://redstate.com/alexparker/2021/09/12/down-with-capitalism-professor-pummels-oppression-by-shafting-the-shift-key-n441798

    The phrase is one of the few I can still quote from my one semester of college Italian, as it seemed appropriate for some of my more stringent STEM classrooms.

  21. @AesopFan:

    So you shouldn’t have too much trouble with this riddle:

    Straniero, ascolta!
    “Nella cupa notte
    vola un fantasma iridescente.
    Sale e dispiega l’ale
    sulla nera infinita umanità!
    Tutto il mondo l’invoca
    e tutto il mondo l’implora!
    ma il fantasma sparisce con l’aurora
    per rinascere nel cuore!
    ed ogni notte nasce
    ed ogni giorno muore!

  22. Another China Covid Regime Datapoint:

    https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/health-environment/article/3151009/coronavirus-hong-kong-was-told-learn-macaus-model

    Macau is much more converged than Hong Kong and does things much more the PRC way… e.g. no colour-coded 2D Barcodes in Hong Kong to date.

    But I think the description in the article of quarantine and testing measures being used in Macau could stand in as a reasonable proxy for those in force in China.

    Here’s Macau’s Covid Report Card:

    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/china-macao-sar/

    Population 660K. Covid Cases to Date: 72. Deaths: 0.

    Historical Side Note: Macau’s Gleichschaltung began back in 1966 during the Cultural Revolution when Red Guards from across the fence literally overran the joint and rectified the Portuguese who weren’t the most switched on guys at the best of time. After that there was never any doubt about who really called the shots regardless of which uniforms were being worn or which flags were flying. Things went a bit differently in Hong Kong for a bunch of reasons.

  23. I post a lot of articles from J E Dyer at Liberty Unyielding – won’t be doing that anymore.

    https://libertyunyielding.com/2021/09/30/notice-to-readers/
    “It is with a heavy heart that we write to inform readers that in several days, Liberty Unyielding, as they know it, will cease publication.

    Our chief reason for pulling up stakes after eight years is Big Tech. The censorship, by Facebook in particular, has taken a heavy toll on the management, staff, and contributors. It has also adversely affected our revenues.

    We have dropped hints of our plight from time to time in posts such as this one from last July on the depths of depravity to which some of our electronic jailers have descended.

    The official last day of the site in its current incarnation will be Sunday Oct. 3. The comments section will remain up for several days after, then we will be shutting that down as well.”

    Sad.

  24. One last post from Dyer, a teaser for a longer post she will put up at her own blog – with something new on the case.
    https://libertyunyielding.com/2021/10/03/the-sussmann-indictment-and-the-alfa-bank-saga-a-preview-of-coming-attractions/

    My principal assessment from a survey of current and past analyses, including my own, is that the Sussmann indictment, which functions as a sort of “Durham report” to date in laying out the potential elements of a conspiracy, effectively fingers the Alfa Bank subplot as an intentional conspiracy, and suggests it’s the key to unwinding the whole ball of string.

    The timing of three core events in the Alfa Bank plotline, in 2016 and 2017, reinforces this deduction. There is also a connection with a much more recent event.

    The recent event is the eye-catching shift of millions of IP addresses from control by the Pentagon to a tiny, no-background company in Boca Raton, on 20 January 2021, three minutes before Trump’s term ended. Those same IP addresses shifted from the Florida company back to the Pentagon on 7 September 2021, shortly before Durham’s indictment of Michael Sussmann was filed.

    The connection with the Alfa Bank subplot is through people, not through cyber evidence or other collateral clues. The proprietor of the small Florida company, Raymond Saulino of Global Resource Systems, LLC, is a long-time associate of a tech expert – Robert Joffe – who is probably “Tech Executive-1” from the Sussmann indictment. (Sussmann represented Joffe during the timeframe covered by the indictment.)

    Indeed, Joffe was interviewed by media about Saulino back in April 2021, when the mainstream media became aware of the IP address shift in January.

    But it appears to me that the IP address shift itself is relevant to the parade of facts, connections, and methods that make up the working story of Spygate and Russiagate. I can’t tell how much Durham already sees, but it looks likely to me that, as Durham’s work unfolds, we haven’t seen the last of the Pentagon IP addresses. Their exploitation is a method, as an opportunity in cyberspace, that hasn’t previously been considered in the general-public treatments of Spygate, as they relate to Trump and his associates, the 2016 election, Russia, Hillary Clinton, or any other element.

    If there was a group of so-called “Concerned Nerds” (the going-in proposition of the Alfa Bank-Trump narrative, retailed by the media in 2016), and they included both Joffe and Saulino, we can bet that the Concerned Nerds were well aware of the situation of the Pentagon IP addresses in 2016. Someone they were doing work for probably was as well. More on that in the article to come.

    As for the core events in the Alfa Bank timeline, they occurred in March 2016, May 2016, and February-March 2017. The remarkable interest of each of these passages lies in their overlay with the other things going on in Spygate/Russiagate.

    What becomes clear with the overlay and the hindsight is that none of this could have been a coincidence.

    As I will argue in the article, “coincidences are exactly what cue law enforcement to investigate the hypothesis of a conspiracy. The material events of a conspiracy are rarely the first things identified as a conspiracy. It’s common motives, common timing, and common knowledge, often perceived at first as circumstantial, that cause investigators to suspect a conspiracy.”

    The Alfa Bank subplot looks less and less like it was an exploitation (by Hillary and the DNC) of a coincidence involving DNS lookups between servers. It looks more, in fact, like something concocted by planners, at the same time other elements of Spygate were being concocted.

    The Pentagon IP addresses, in hindsight, might have served in 2016 as a method of work in the common enterprise, like the actions undertaken through other federal agencies – not directly by the Hillary campaign – mentioned above.

    I look forward to interested readers joining me at the Optimistic Conservative for the full-length discussion, which should be posted by Tuesday 5 October at the latest. Until then, farewell and Godspeed from the Liberty Unyielding outpost.

    Let freedom ring.

  25. “…the key to unwinding the whole ball of string….”

    AF,
    Thanks very much for that.
    The closure of LU is a severe blow.
    Dyer’s analysis (thus far) is astonishing (but nothing ought to surprise WRT these gangsters).

    Time to haul out Susan Rice’s famous memo to self?

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