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The tangled web: more on the Whitmer kidnapping plot, the FBI, and entrapment — 22 Comments

  1. The truly despicable Chris Wray is highly unlikely to provide a truthful response to the important questions being asked by Matt Gaetz, one of the very few Republicans in Congress (along with Gosar of AZ and The Notorious MTG) who seem to care about any of the critical issues surrounding 1/6 being discussed on this blog, or by Julie Kelly at American Greatness, or by the brilliant Darren Beattie at Revolver, whose reporting first alerted Tucker Carlson to the possibility of serious malfeasance by the FBI on and before that day, supposedly the “worst attack on our democracy since the Civil War.” In response to the ever-important question of “Cui Bono?”, one can only conclude that it was not Trump or Trump-supporters who benefited from the events of January 6th, but only the corrupt members of our thoroughly corrupt ruling class, i.e. the kakistocracy.

  2. This is big only because it involved Whitmer.

    The FBI has been doing this since at least 9-11.

  3. I live in Michigan and was convinced the day news of the Whitmer kidnap plot came out that the whole thing was a setup by the FBI. It has been clear for a while that the FBI is completely corrupt. What surprises me is that the facts are actually starting to come out.

    I’m equally convinced that the FBI had a hand in the events on January 6th. Let’s hope that those facts eventually come out as well.

  4. What was written above about the FBI actions at the Michigan Capital protest reads like a beta-test for Jan. 6th. They had, I believed then and now even more, hoped to get some blood spilled but it didn’t happen.

    The closest to murder that happened with any that were involved in the Michigan part was the FBI agent out of Kalamazoo who is charged with beating his wife half to death recently.

  5. Gosh, I’m honored. I’m also awed by Neo’s card-file retrieval system. Or maybe it’s her incredible mind.

    I had followed some other examples. It also included the fibbies dissing red flags handed to them by ordinary citizens.

    Goes back a ways. Knew a couple of guys in high school who did the guns/woods thing during deer season as training in case…this, not the Russians…happened. Our school those years was 7-12 before jr. hi was built. And so we knew a lot of people for some time. They would only talk to people they’d known since seventh grade.

    Never thought to ask what actual situations got their attention.

    Sixty years ago.

  6. On a side note Viva Frei (real name David Freiheit) has announced he is running for parliament from Montreal in what sounds like the libertarian party. Seems like a good guy who has been really politically activated by the response to Covid.

  7. Richard Aubrey:

    Easy-peasy to find it. I just did a search on the blog for “Whitmer” to see if it would lead me to the previous post I wrote about the incident, when it first happened. Once I found the post, I read it, and then I read the comments there to see what people were saying back then.

  8. Richard Aubrey:

    Well, you certainly hit the nail on the head the moment the news came out about the arrests. It was quite something to see how spot on your comment was back then.

  9. When the incursion into the Capitol occurred, it just didn’t make sense to me. The Trump rally was going to be yuuge. The security should have been massive. The National Guard was offered and refused. The security arrangements were not much more than for a normal day in D.C.

    The thing that ticked me off was that Hawley and Cruz were going to offer evidence as to why there should be a short delay in the certification of Biden while an audit was done in the swing states. That never happened because the House and Senate were evacuated. At least the MSM would have had to report the evidence they presented. No more brushing it off as “baseless.”

    In many videos I saw there were intruders who were kitted up just like ANTIFA rioters that we saw last summer. There weren’t huge numbers of them, but it appeared they were provocateurs. Were these some of the unindicted co-conspirators?

    It’s all very smelly and smacks of a entrapment.

  10. Why would any jury ever take an FBI witness at face value ever again.
    They appear more & more corrupt to the core.

  11. “When I first read about the Michigan plot the strong possibility of entrapment occurred to me, probably because of my legal training in the 70s.”

    I was tangentially involved with the Michigan Militia back in the 90’s, attended some rallies. Mostly the Brass Roots rallies in conjunction with the LP and gun rights organizations. It’s really trippy seeing a peaceful political protest being watched by cops from surrounding roof tops through rifle scopes, by the way.

    It was commonly said at the time that if anybody in a group started talking about committing serious crimes, you’d identified your FBI infiltrator, and you needed to throw them out immediately.

    I guess the FBI have solve the problem of their infiltrators being tossed out, by getting them to work their way into leadership positions before proposing crimes? Sounds like it.

    At this point, when I read of some plot being foiled by the FBI, my default assumption is that it was entrapment, though I’m open to having that disproved. And the events of Jan. 6th sure look like a typical “FBI fails to swoop in in time.” screwup, especially given how incredibly rapidly they had all that information on the key participants.

  12. John Guilfoyle said:

    “Why would any jury ever take an FBI witness at face value ever again.”

    But if you let on any of that in the juror questioning as they select jurors you will be kicked off.

  13. Entrapment was part of the plan to get the pointless Ruby Ridge crime going.
    John Guilfoyle: After the trial of the wife of the Orlando night club, one of the jurors mentioned skepticism regarding FBI witnesses.

  14. A police officer friend of mine told me if I ever joined such a group, out of three members two would be FBI.

  15. So does this mean that when “Biden” warns us about White Supremacists being the NUMBER ONE SUPER DUPER threat to America, “he” ‘s really warning us about the FBI—yep, THAT FBI—which is working in tandem with (i.e., under the auspices of) “Biden”?

    Hmm. Thought so….

  16. A dozen unemployed retards being led around and encouraged to commit crimes by half as many FBI agents and their 1099 form contract flunkies.

    Anybody who even glanced at the original accusations would have immediately asked (as I and I am sure many others did as well) : what could the ostensible perpetrators of such a plot – pretending for a moment that it was real – have hoped to actually accomplish?

    Are people who are so stupid as to dream of such a thing working, even intellectually capable of the marshaling of resources and the implementing of logistical programs even approximately adequate to pulling off their ludicrous day-dream on their own?

    The FBI has basically just demonstrated that for the most part, leftist academics aside, they are not.

  17. they were arrested in october 2020
    -an election year-
    remember what happened in october exactly two years prior
    -another election year-
    the cesar sayoc fake pipe bomb attacks
    remember how the fbi caught him
    not witnesses not video not cell phone data
    his dna was on the packages
    remember where he worked
    at the same strip club stormy daniels worked
    remember stormy daniels
    SHE WAS THE ONLY STRIPPER IN THE WORLD AT THE TIME SUING THE PRESIDENT AND HOW EASY WOULD IT HAVE BEEN TO GET HIS DNA AT A STRIP CLUB TO PLANT ON EVIDENCE
    the chances of it not being an fbi operation:
    100 thousand trillion to 1

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