We’re slowly learning more about voting irregularities…
…and possible fraud in Georgia in November of 2020.
Very slowly.
Will it matter?
[ADDENDUM: And then there’s Arizona.]
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…and possible fraud in Georgia in November of 2020.
Very slowly.
Will it matter?
[ADDENDUM: And then there’s Arizona.]
Legally, no. But it will completely delegitimize Biden as President.
It is completely crazy that the United States doesn’t have fair elections. This MUST be stopped. What happened was that big cities in a few states stole the election. This can’t be allowed.
But I have little confidence that the Dem cheating will stop. People need to go to jail. We know the FBI and DOJ in those states (MI, WI, AZ, PA, GA) will do nothing. So it is up to the state AG’s and county attorneys. They have to act. If people aren’t punished, this continues.
And I note that no one ever rats out the Dems on election theft. They planned it for months in advance.
Replying to neo: no.
Replying to Cornhead (5:33 pm), who thinks that “it will completely delegitimize Biden as President”:
We on our side of the culture war already regard him as not legitimate.
Those on the bad guys’ side will not see his legitimacy tarnished in the tiniest degree.
Is there anyone, at this stage of the war, who is not on one side or the other? Only people who are not terribly engaged in the war. Their opinions matter not at all to me, but their votes may matter — assuming it’s a worthwhile exercise to count votes, given who gets to do the counting and all that.
MJR:
There are lots of people who Rush called “low information voters.” At some point, the evidence will be so overwhelming that even they get the message. Tucker needs to keep on this issue. He’s been a Godsend.
CNN has been trying to discredit the audit efforts.
But my main point is that there MUST be criminal prosecutions. And it has to come from the states. People need to talk about this.
We on our side of the culture war already regard him as not legitimate. Those on the bad guys’ side will not see his legitimacy tarnished in the tiniest degree.
Tru dat.
As for what the truth is, I suspect these audits will turn up indicators from which you can infer fraud but not determine the scale.
YouTube currently has the Maricopa County hearing recorded on Charlie Kirk’s feed (for now). Geez the irregularities boggle the mind: Anomalies!!!
3,981 voted despite registered AFTER Oct 15 deadline
11,326 voted who were NOT on rolls on Nov 7 but WERE on Dec
18,000 voted and then were removed from rolls AFTER election
74,243 mail-in ballots w/ NO evidence of ever being sent
176,000 votes that had BLEED THROUGH! Desire AZ official SECURE ballots not bleeding through
*Meanwhile crickets elsewhere. Truly shocking insistence on ignorance “Big lie”. ~~I think not! https://youtu.be/kCrGXD4n2nI
Cornhead (5:52 pm) believes that “at some point, the evidence will be so overwhelming that even they [Limbaugh’s L.I.V.s] get the message.”
Where they gonna get it? From CBSABCNBCPBSNPR? Maybe from CNNMSNBC? No matter, because the L.I.V. crowd just ain’t into that newsy sorta stuff anyway, regardless of the source.
Cornhead, I’m on your (our, most of us here) side. But it’s incredibly late in the game. Most of our side wasn’t aware there was a war going on until extremely recently. Many are still not aware. Too many ostensibly on our side still look to reach across the aisle and compromise, after all that’s been going on. Meanwhile, “what’s mine is mine, what’s yours is negotiable” is their (the bad guys’) going-in position.
“There MUST be criminal prosecutions,” friend Cornhead insists, but if the criminal prosecutions thus far [The Hillary Clinton prosecution leaps immediately to mind] comprise any indication of how much good those might accomplish, fuggeddaboudit.
It’s as good as over. Stick a fork in it.
The Russia hoax turned out to be a … hoax
Trump predicted a vaccine within a year … Trump produced a vaccine in a year
On it goes.
The fraud will be proven. A lot of liberals won’t care. But Some will be depressed and disenchanted with their party and won’t vote.
Republicans will be even more galvanized to stop the fraud and win.
This remains a critically important war to keep waging.
I am heartened by these findings Neo provided.
One word answer–no.
I can’t stop at one word. The Left has it tentacles deep into too many institutions; i.e. federal police, intelligence community, (I could just say the complete bureaucratic swamp), congress, big city governments, media (both legacy and social), the courts, and last but far from least education.
When the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs compares Trump supporters to Nazis with no repercussions, and when the Sec of State calls on the UN to investigate racism in the U.S. and still has his job, there is precious little hope.
I am not sure how much elections will matter in the future. The Swamp creatures at all levels will simply smile and go on about their nefarious business.
“There MUST be criminal prosecutions,” Cornhead
I too am convinced that there won’t be. I too am convinced that the great majority of those who voted for Biden will remain “faithful”.
I’d love for events to prove me wrong about that.
As we proceed further into this fraudulent farce, the perception that the Republic is gone will further deepen and spread among both the Republican base and the independents.
An illegitimate government has no recourse but to increase its tyranny. Sooner or later, tyranny brings rebellion.
Everything the left and its political arm the democrat party and its enforcement arm the deep state are doing is bringing America closer to civil war. They imagine that putting down another false flag insurrection will provide the excuse for the imposition of martial law and the rounding up of the “domestic terrorists” who protest.
Instead, it will light a fire across the land. What the left doesn’t get is that their passion is intellectual in origin. If only things could be made ‘fair’ for everyone. Children can be made to see what’s ‘right’.
While the passion on the right, originates in the heart; at base a love of family, friends and country. The right’s passion doesn’t burn as brightly as the left’s but it’s a much deeper, slower burning.
Courage, persistance, determination and loyalty originate in the heart.
Soldiers do not face the possibilities of death and permanent disability through a belief in ideology. They face those horrors and refuse to run away due to the bonding that going into harms way together brings. When that bonding is absent, you only have a mob. And mobs are easily routed when they encounter real force.
I’m not at all optimistic that anything will happen as the result of evidence of voter fraud, but I am interested in what people think should happen. The statistical anomalies are enough to convince me that the 2020 election was stolen but obviously that is not the type of evidence that will persuade most people.
But what if hard evidence is discovered that there were more than enough fraudulent votes to tip the election? What if there were confessions of people who committed fraud? I think there are people out there who dismiss the evidence of fraud because they don’t want to believe it. I have spoken with people who think there may have been some fraud (as happens in every election) but not enough to turn the election. These people simply don’t want to believe that we live in country where this could happen. But these people are persuadable. I have seen them be persuaded on the competence of the CDC and the malign influence of big tech.
I’m wondering what happens if a majority of the country starts to believe that the election was stolen. Do we just carry on and say we’ll fix it next time? I know there are no constitutional provisions for a new election and no way to remove the President outside of impeachment, but I also find it hard to imagine having a leader who most people think is illegitimate.
I’m trying to imagine what it would take for me to have faith in our government again. It would start with the resignations of Biden and Harris and the complete overhaul of all our intelligence agencies with dozens of people going to jail and thousands of people being fired. There would also have to be thorough investigations of all those at the state and local levels who enabled the fraud with lengthy jail time for those found guilty. It would also probably involve the impeachment of several judges who chose to look the other way while the faith in our country’s institutions was destroyed.
Like I said, I am not optimistic.
Be it resolved then that we will aim for full reinstatement and restitution, with the understanding that we may be forced to settle for decisively dealing with RINOs. The former might be a longshot, but the latter is in easy reach.
Gregory Harper,
If Biden and Harris were forced to step down, the democrats would ensure that Nancy Pelosi assumed the Presidency. If ending the filibuster in the Senate was required to accomplish that, they’d end it in a NY minute and the deep state would make sure that there were no turncoats. At least none that would live to cast a vote. ‘Suicides’ would be arranged.
As for a “complete overhaul of all our intelligence agencies with dozens of people going to jail and thousands of people being fired”… “lawfare” and a deluge of propaganda would ensure that could only happen in the aftermath of a civil war in which the right prevailed.
We’re dealing with people for whom no moral strictures exist.
The willingness of Democrats and RINOs to accept blatant fraud and illegitimacy reminds us of a particular movie quote.
There are levels of survival we are prepared to accept.
– The Architect
I think the charade will grow increasingly difficult to maintain and Biden will be shunted aside by the cabinet. I’m not seeing a route to remove Harris unless she’s got a skeleton in her closet and we live in such a shameless age I’m not seeing that would matter. Then the White House staff and the cabinet would be stuck with Harris deficiencies as a supervisor and manager, her intellectual mediocrity, and her absence of scruple. Still, 40% of the electorate would vote for a dead dog in the road rather than cast a ballot for a Republican, so she’ll be competitive. Segments of the Democratic Party have different roles in political theatre, but there are hardly any policy disagreements to speak of at the national level (Manchin and Sinema excepted); she won’t face a challenge.
If ending the filibuster in the Senate was required to accomplish that,
It’s not required at all. The order of succession is specified in a statute enacted in 1947. What they cannot accomplish is getting Harris out of the way. When Biden has to be sent to assisted living, she’s in charge.
They are going about it in the right way. They are not releasing information until they have a forum that has the gravitas of a government chamber. They are taking their time. They are being methodical. And the commentary from visiting dignitaries has been uniformly praiseworthy, even on occasion across party lines.
I think this is the only way an election audit can be successful, when it is conducted above partisan frays and determinedly bipartisan, at least on offer. The Maricopa election board looks increasingly incompetent as they refuse to participate, refuse each subpoena and demand for equipment, giving reasons that are, on their face, increasingly absurd.
Normal registered voters will see this playing out, and come to a single conclusion as it grinds on – even if they’re not paying close attention. Once it is clear that the audit is not about reversing the election, but laying the groundwork for the next election, they are forced to make an intellectual choice about what they want for themselves.
Polling on this is very clear across partisan lines. The vast majority of voters want clean elections. The pressure on the election boards and SOS is only going to increase. It is not going away and stonewalling is not going to work when the bad news starts coming out, as it already is. And suddenly re-writing personal history isn’t going to fly either, because partisan Conservative journalists have been paying attention and are waiting for an opportunity to pounce, as they already have.
Will it matter?
It won’t unseat Slow Joe, but it could help retard and reverse the voter fraud enabling shite like widespread mail in and absentee voting. As well has provide support for Voter Id legislation.
These are Useful Data Points, so let’s all keep digging and broadcasting findings. The Prog Left’s response to the ongoing investigations could turn out to be worth an army of bloviating Trumps.
I fear that some of the Diggers will end up being the martyred subjects of marching songs later, but that’s all part and parcel of Progress.
This has been going on a long time.
Territorial Enterprise, October 21-24, 1865
[portion of letter from San Francisco written October 19, 1865]
BOB ROACH’S PLAN FOR CIRCUMVENTING A DEMOCRAT
Where did all these Democrats come from? They grow thicker and thicker and act more and more outrageously at each successive election. Now yesterday they had the presumption to elect S. H. Dwinelle to the Judgeship of the Fifteenth District Court, and not content with this, they were depraved enough to elect four out of the six Justices of the Peace! Oh, ‘Enery Villiam, where is thy blush! Oh, Timothy Hooligan, where is thy shame! It’s out. Democrats haven’t got any. But Union men staid away from the election – they either did that or else they came to the election and voted Democratic tickets – I think it was the latter, though the Flag will doubtless say it was the former. But these Democrats didn’t stay away – you never catch a Democrat staying away from an election. The grand end and aim of his life is to vote or be voted for, and he accommodates to circumstances and does one just as cheerfully as he does the other. The Democracy of America left their native wilds in England and Connaught to come here and vote – and when a man, and especially a foreigner, who don’t have any voting at home any more than an Arkansas man has ice-cream for dinner, comes three or four thousand miles to luxuriate in occasional voting, he isn’t going to stay away from an election any more than the Arkansas man will leave the hotel table in “Orleans” until he has destroyed most of the ice cream. The only man I ever knew who could counteract this passion on the part of Democrats for voting, was Robert Roach, carpenter of the steamer Aleck Scott, “plying to and from St. Louis to New Orleans and back,” as her advertisement sometimes read. The Democrats generally came up as deck passengers from New Or leans, and the yellow fever used to snatch them right and left – eight or nine a day for the first six or eight hundred miles; consequently Roach would have a lot on hand to “plant” every time the boat landed to wood – “plant” was Roach’s word. One day as Roach was superintending a burial the Captain came up and said:
“God bless my soul, Roach, what do you mean by shoving a corpse into a hole in the hill-side in this barbarous way, face down and its feet sticking out?”
“I always plant them foreign Democrats in that manner, sir, because, damn their souls, if you plant ’em any other way they’ll dig out and vote the first time there’s an election – but look at that fellow, now – you put ’em in head first and face down and the more they dig the deeper they’ll go into the hill.”
In my opinion, if we do not get Roach to superintend our cemeteries, enough Democrats will dig out at the next election to carry their entire ticket. It begins to look that way.
[reprinted in The Works of Mark Twain; Early Tales & Sketches, Vol. 2 1864-1865, (Univ. of California Press, 1981), pp. 313-14.]
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Everything will stay under the radar until a state decertifies their electors. It is a race between Arizona and Georgia. I think Georgia will be first because the public is finally seeing the ballots and the fraud was so bad even the press has to concede massive fraud happened. When the Secretary of State has to say criminal charges need to be brought you know what is coming is even worse. DeKalb county was terrible too. Enough fraud to maybe call Purdue as the real winner on election night. At that point even the Low Information Voters have to pay attention. The Biden mal-administration DOJ will sue but will lose because the constitution is clear that the State Legislatures have the right to oversee their elections. When you are taking flak you know you are over the target.
Atlanta is not looking forward to a repeat of Antifa riots. Any attempts will be immediately quashed.
Trump is not walking through the door. But every Biden Executive Order can be challenged as void. All regulations can be challenged as illegitimate. All appointments can be challenged as usurpers. The grassroots is angry per the Daryl Cooper tweet feed has laid out and those who get in the way will be removed. The McBroom Michigan report was a disgrace. A report written to support a pre-determined conclusion. On Wednesday, Jason Roe, a never Trumper was driven from the Executive Director position.
I have been working at both grassroots and party organizations to fix this mess. It is very encouraging to see that people are not giving up and if anything being more committed. Also CRT is getting suburban moms up in arms and we are mobilizing them. I almost feel sorry for school superintendents because of SCOTUS declining to hear the 5th Appeals Court ruling that trans person can use the school locker room of their choice. You think that LA Spa situation was bad. Wait until moms of tween girls find out that biological boys are in their daughters locker room.
A lot of hard work still has to be done. But progress is being made. I am not tired. I am not deterred. I am not downcast. Positive results are being achieved and bigger ones are coming.
So I encourage all of you to get involved locally and work to fix your community
Paul in Boston:
That was great!
Democrat Voter Fraud has always been a Grave Matter (geddit, geddit?)
Did you catch the allusion to 1 Corinthians 15:55 in Para 1?
“Oh, ‘Enery Villiam, where is thy blush! Oh, Timothy Hooligan, where is thy shame!“
https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/1-Corinthians-15-55/
Goes down better with some elaboration and curlicues:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeaZsVCwoW8
“Will it matter?”
Depends…
1. How badly does Bidenomics tank the economy? Hungry scared people do some drastic stuff.
2. How badly does the CRT crowd turn the black mob against the white mob? Black folks (&BLM enablers) will die in droves if they start attacking white enclaves. Here’s what they’ll face https://twitter.com/SteveInmanUIC/status/1414288762037620740
3. Will the Fraud in Chief be “dis-elected?” No.
4. Will the Fraud in Chief be 25th Amendmented before the final audits are done so Kamala the Great & Terrible can be installed as a final backstop against an overthrow? Just spitballin’ here…I wanted to get in just one Kamala the Great before the end of the day. ;-D
It is completely crazy that the United States doesn’t have fair elections.
All of our public institutions stink. So do our private educational institutions. Americans collectively are willing and able to assemble competent private businesses which give us a standard of living which exceeds that of just about every country in the world (Singapore and Switzerland exceptions). Collectively, we do nothing well outside the commercial and industrial sector. Have a gander at the United States Congress. Kakistocracy is now.
Goeffrey: What the left doesn’t get is that their passion is intellectual in origin.
In a manner reminiscent of a seminary or madrasa.
Despite their claims of having a basis in reason, the Left’s blind faith in the omniscience, infallibility, and virtue of an elite subset of the human species – a species with a well-documented history of both error and evil – is expressed with a fundamentalist zeal that makes the Puritans look like pole dancers.
The Left does not heed the words of Dirty Harry … “a man’s got to know his limitations” … the way the Right does in their respect for individual liberty. They PRESUME to Know Better™, and therefore believe that their purpose in life is to set YOU straight, your rights be damned.
Because it’s for the children … to save the planet … if it saves one life …
Will it matter? Maybe.
Georgia and Arizona are discovering clear indications of outcome-altering fraud, though Arizona thus far is still being low-key polite about it. Wisconsin is being even lower-key – it’s easy to forget their Republican state legislature has started an investigation into the apparent widespread criminality in last November’s election there.
We’re already seeing that each revelation creates more pressure in more places for more investigation. Pennsylvania’s legislature is now officially auditing Philadelphia. Yeah, I know, good luck with that, it’ll be a STEEP uphill climb. But the pressure is growing. In Michigan too.
Meanwhile, back to our original trio GA AZ and WI. All were taken by tiny margins, all are digging into what looks like many times those margins worth of cheating. And if just those three state had gone Red, the Electoral College would have been 269-269 and the House (with its Republican-delegations majority) would have decided it.
Hypothetical at this point, no Constitutional procedural provision for a do-over, right? Certainly no explicit provision, no. Implicit though? Maybe… The courts DO have precedent for overturning flgrantly corrupt elections. Rare, but it’s been done. And if a bunch of states have for-the-record declared their electors of last November invalid, and a BUNCH of people across the low-info middle are finally angry… And the Red states then once again bring suit to this weathervane Supreme Court? With the wind blowing REALLY HARD in a new direction? Which way might they then point?
Interesting times.
@Jester Naybor:
Seminaries and Madrassas, you say?
You forgot Yeshivas, Wats, and Lamaseries. Especially the Lamaseries. We’re Equal Opportunists in these parts.
Come to think of it, Boston Bonze is a bit of lost nomenclature could do with rebirthing for the times we live in.
I have to wonder if Biden’s toxic demagoguery on voting has something to do with the expectation of bad news on the audits. Most of Biden’s public career has been in an age where that kind of unhinged lunacy from the president would have been unthinkable. (Although Biden himself had quite a bit to do with busting that norm – See Bork and Thomas.) Add to that including amnesty and the Pro Act in the reconciliation bill.
It could be a desperate application of Obama’s “stray voltage” strategy to muddy things up in advance of bad news. It could also be that they’re throwing red meat to appease the progressive base (i.e., let the Senate parliamentarian be the bad guy). The problem with that is that, unlike Obama, Biden can’t pull off the demagogic nonsense act without sounding like Monty Python doing Mussolini.
I guess we’ll find out when the audit results are publicly released. FWIW, we should also be prepared for the possibility that the audits could end for the right the same way that Mueller did for the left.
Biden out, Trump in? Ain’t gonna happen, sorry. To repeat previous points, there’s no *Constitutional* remedy available, and winging it is how we got into this mess in the first place. “We’re not like that” has been, I agree, a recipe for defeat, but “being like them” produces a result that gave us the famous Vietnam war maxim, “We had to destroy the village to save it.”
So, what to do?
First, figure out how they did what they did, and put in procedures and personnel to prevent that fraud from reoccurring. Second, sue about every administrative order and every law passed with less than a veto-proof majority on the grounds of illegitimacy. All we need is to keep His Fraudulentcy tied up until the next election. Third, elect a President who will undo the damage.
Let’s remain in Claire Wolfe’s holding pattern. Only if the other side succeeds in stealing the next presidential election (and therefore the country) is there any excuse to succumb to H.L. Mencken’s black flag temptation.
Buddahaha – how did they do it? By salting fraudulent ballots in apartment complexes, nursing homes in Republican precincts using absentee ballots before the election. I am on a team that is proving this out. The problem for the Democrats is that Trump so overwhelmed their pre-salted totals that they had to go dark at midnight, comb through the voter roles in the bulwark cities and created massive absentee votes to overcome it that could easily be uncovered IF someone is determined to look like Arizona and Georgia.
https://youtu.be/9z0oSSZH8rk
Listen to this segment from Baris and Barnes on what happened until the 45 minute mark. Baris has been saying over and over it was done abusing the absentee vote systems. Listen closely at the 39 – 42 minute segment. Actually the whole episode is worth listening to.
When you are done just burn with anger against the Republican establishment. They made sure that Trump wouldn’t win. Pence went radio silent after the election and didn’t communicate with the administration. We know how that came out.
If Republicans take both houses in 2022 then could they not impeach both Biden and Harris?
Jeanne – They could impeach with a majority in the House, but removal would require 66 votes in the Senate.
Bauxite remembers his dashed hopes from Orange Man Bad.
Most people on the right who have been paying even the slightest attention these past few years have completely lost faith in the system. If our cynicism could be harnessed as an energy source we could travel to Alpha Centauri and back and power the entire Earth for millenia.
It’s truly difficult to have any optimism about events these days. There’s just so many people who should rightfully be in jail who are currently holding positions of power that it’s overwhelming. Our institutions have become so corrupt and decadent that it’s difficult to imagine how things could ever be repaired. The media, our educational system, the government, big tech and large parts of corporate America all seem bent on punishing normal people.
I haven’t completely given up hope, but unless a truly huge number of Americans wake up I don’t think things will get better.
Nonapod – what have YOU done to make a change? Are you involved in any grassroot groups? Are you communicating with family, neighbors and friends as to what is going on. If you aren’t then entropy will take over that you decry. That is what the establishment is banking on.
Again, the methods you’re describing would be recognizable right away to those of us who’ve done some street level politics. The RNC should have been mobilizing the state parties to have their legal counsel at the ready with template briefs and been pressing the state parties to mobilize their county organizations to have boots on the ground to disrupt the Democrats’ shenanigans as much as possible. Part of this would have been getting Republican legislators behind a menu of measures to avoid the pell mell use of postal ballots. Easiest thing to do would have been to declare a one-time bank holiday on election day and the day before, so you wouldn’t have clots of people at peak hours. Another would be to have outdoor voting under a tent wherever possible. Another would have been to recruit all poll inspectors from the ranks of people under 50. There was very little danger to voters as long as they weren’t hanging around in the station for hours. Any danger was to poll inspectors.
A huge number of Americans are awake, tens of millions. The figure isn’t as high as it should be, but it’s enough to change the electoral landscape when organized. But there isn’t any leadership for the right. The media stranglehold deliberately destroys right-leaning political figures if they step out of line.
Take a look at the current landscape. When Trump won a legitimate victory, the entire political establishment, Democrat and Republican, worked tirelessly to undermine him. When Biden wins due to demonstrable fraud, Democrats won’t say a word. Republicans with integrity would be making daily statements, “Joe Biden won an illegitimate election based on illegally changed voting laws, violently excluding observers, double-counting votes, and manufactured mail-in ballots.” At this point all of these are demonstrated fact.
Who is doing that? Ted Cruz? No. Josh Hawley? No. Ron DeSantis? No. The best people actually in office are Gosar and Marjorie Taylor Green, with some follow-ups like Gaetz or Nunes, but none of them are doing that.
Only Trump is doing that. I don’t even like Trump, because he’s obviously being strung around by people using his personal charisma and character to fleece gullible-but-hopeful people.
The closest thing to a real leader on the right is Tucker Carlson. Beyond him, you need to look at figures like Alex Jones or Nick Fuentes, who the media deliberately & constantly lies about in order to make them radioactive. For the Right in a political sense, the way forward is mostly this: Grassroots activism, and cultivating the alternative media landscape to escape censorship. People who are watching Fox News every night aren’t going to do anything, because Fox is part of the problem. These elderly people lulled into a stupor watching politics like it’s their favorite red team versus the unscrupulous blue team.
The reality is the red team is part of the blue team, and both of them are teaming up to completely enslave you and your children forever. It’s bad enough already, but no matter how bad people think it is now it is poised to get a whole lot worse and FAST. The agenda coming down the pipeline is totalitarianism at a scale and scope that is completely beyond anything that any dictator ever dreamed of before.
Art+Deco: I like a lot of your ideas, especially outdoor voting and the bank holiday ideas. It’s a shame the R team didn’t push for that stuff last summer.
What would you have had in model briefs, though? The whole issue is that the facts weren’t available early enough to matter. I find it very hard to conceive of a scenario where it would be possible to prove anything but the very sloppiest voting shenanigans before the declared winner took office. I wonder if that is what happened to Lin Wood and Sidney Powell – they desperately needed hard evidence quickly and were a little too credulous. Either that or they’re both charlatans. Whichever it was, their maneuvers arguably ended up doing more harm than good.
Anyway, I suspect that the best strategy is to prospectively pass the kinds of election integrity laws that state legislatures are passing now. But why would Democrats follow these new laws when they just ignored the old ones and got away with it? I don’t have a good answer.
Legitimacy:
“These elderly people lulled into a stupor watching politics like it’s their favorite red team versus the unscrupulous blue team.”
Not like me, I’m young and awake and dialed in at 11s. But wait there’s more:
“The agenda coming down the pipeline is totalitarianism at a scale and scope that is completely beyond anything that any dictator ever dreamed of before.” That’s what the totalitarians always needed: an undreamable, unscopable, plan beyond mere human imagination. But they have one now, it’s hush, hush, though.
There may be some hyperbole here?
Bauxite:
Regarding Sidney Powell and Lin Wood. Robert Barnes speculated that both fell prey to disinformation campaigns – aka “Look, squirrel.”
Look, Fat…,
https://kunstler.com/clusterfuck-nation/enemies-of-the-people/
om – It wouldn’t surprise me to learn that Powell and Wood were set up. Powell was not a kook when she represented Flynn. Nor was she a kook in her previous run-ins with Weissman over Enron. An accomplished professional doesn’t just turn into the crazy-haired guy from Ancient Aliens overnight.
I wonder the same thing about Flynn. The guy was the head of the Defense Intelligence Agency. They don’t put unstable people in that position.
Bauxite:
Agree (shocked, I’m sure), and given what General Milley (unstable?) was and is reportedly up to, the rot and woke goes very deep in the Pentagon.
@om:
I’m an engineer who works in a large corporation that regularly deals with these issues. The technologies that are being developed & deployed currently will completely eliminate privacy for individuals. Every movement of a person will be tracked, and every financial transaction will be captured and monitored. All of this is enabled by machine learning that permits the government-corporate hybrid to monitor arbitrarily large numbers of people.
It isn’t alarmist to look at the power of this technology, which has been purposefully engineered to eliminate privacy, and to observe that it can also be easily used to persecute enemies of the ruling class. And, in fact, is already being used for that purpose.
So no, it’s not hyperbole. In fact it’s understatement, because I am sure I don’t have the whole picture. The people who fund and promote all of this have thought long and hard about how to use these technologies to cement their dominance and eliminate threats to their power.
Legitimacy:
Orwell thought and wrote about the 24/7 totalitarian surveillance state (read “1984” published in 1949). You are not the first to think about this rodeo, or post about it here. People wrote about the NSA in the 1970s. Those old folks thought too. But the engineers have been busy beavering about to implement and improve things for quite some time. 🙂
Legitimacy:
My old foggy memory had the date wrong concerning the book about the NSA; it was 1982. Which I read way back then.
Here’s a link from wikedmedia about the book.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Puzzle_Palace
They (NSA) have one of their antenna farm complexes on the Yakima Firing Range it seems? Keep your tinfoil hat on at all times! 🙂
What would you have had in model briefs, though?
You don’t have much time in election law. Have as much prepared beforehand as you can. Each county organization should have had orientations for its poll inspectors telling them what to look for and how to resist intimidation, and teams of notaries ready to take affidavits. You can blame people at the top, but (at least where I’ve hit the bricks), county chairmen know this and should have lined up manpower beforehand without being asked. The big problem is finding people to put in the sweat equity. You have a bunch of committeemen who might show up for a meeting a few times a year. You have to get them to clear their schedules in November and get moving (and get that notary license if you don’t have one).
They made sure that Trump wouldn’t win.
My suspicion about the Capitol Hill / K Street nexus is that fundraising is that to which they devote their attention. The mechanics of the political process and election law proceedings they may be very rusty on if they ever learned them. (Their staff might be familiar with these issues). I don’t think they ‘made sure’ of much of anything until Wm. Barr was sitting on his hands and pretending to have made inquiries he never did. It’s just that they never transcended their own habits and put their peeps to work at unaccustomed tasks.
NUNES: The Durham Report Is Still Coming; Some Obama Officials Will Go to Prison
https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/matt-margolis/2021/07/15/nunes-the-durham-report-is-still-coming-some-obama-officials-will-go-to-prison-n1462139
I’m guessing Nunes has no idea who is in charge at DOJ. I’ll only believe that when the bars go clang and not until!
jack:
I don’t usually think of Nunes as naive, but in this case I think he is. I’ll be happy to be wrong about that, because I hope he’s right. But I don’t think so.
neo,
Nunes, who I like, was doing some moderately aggressive fund raising in my neck of the woods recently. Nothing wrong with that, but it could be connected to the point jack and you are making. Possibly the motivation is a little more crass than naivete.
Neo … Barr had cases that you could have got convictions and I don’t think you ever practiced law and he wouldn’t bring them. What do you think the current DOJ is going to do. The odds are better that you show up at my front door and say Jack forget all I said about the BeeGees … I have to have you!
I grew up with 1984 and believed the Iron Curtain would never fall, but I was wrong. I never dreamed Great Britain would shake off the EU, but I was wrong. I’m naturally pessimistic, so I struggle to remember these lessons and not give up so quickly.
My county is buying new voting equipment that will ensure a paper trail for every ballot. As a practical matter, that means one electronic ballot machine to mark the paper and another to read and record it. We budgeted for it to prepare for the Texas election-reform law that Texas House Dems are trying to block by fleeing the state and denying a quorum. We’ll see how that comes out. I think we’ll buy the new machines anyway. Of course it will be more important to make sure that blue Texas counties do the same.
jack:
🙂
To get serious for a moment, for about the last hour I’ve been working on a new post on the DOJ.
Art Deco – You’re right. I have no experience with election law. I like the systematic nature of what you describe. What’s the end game, though? You file a lawsuit alleging impropriety and provide 50 or so affidavits showing that the poll watchers were thrown out of thought they saw something? Would a judge really throw out an election based on affidavits like that, though? Or is the object to get an order while the voting/counting is going on? The latter would make sense to me.
om – I’m not shocked at all. I suspect we agree about a lot even if we disagree about Trump.
Ugh … thanks, Bauxite