The majority of Americans don’t think Joe Biden is in charge
Here’s a poll on the matter:
The national poll was released by the Convention of States Action in partnership with The Trafalgar Group. The poll, which was conducted toward the end of June, surveyed more than 1,000 likely voters for the upcoming 2022 midterm elections.
Key findings from the poll included:
56.5% of American voters do not believe that President Biden is fully executing the duties of his office, while 36.4% believe he is directing all policy and agenda
31.7% of Democrat voters do not believe that President Biden is fully executing the duties of his office, while 58.6% believe he is directing all policy and agenda
83.6% of Republican voters do not believe that President Biden is fully executing the duties of his office, while 11% believe he is directing all policy and agenda
58.4% of Independent voters do not believe that President Biden is fully executing the duties of his office, while 36.1% believe he is directing all policy and agenda
So the majority of Democrats think Biden’s in charge, the vast majority of Republicans think he’s not, and the majority of Independents think he’s not.
If you go to the poll results and take a closer look, you’ll see some things that are interesting (at least, I found them so). One is that respondents in the 18 to 24 age group had a lot more skepticism about Joe being in control. Another is that of all the ethnic groups queried, Hispanics were strongly skeptical of Joe’s control, right up there (almost) with white people. And males and females were almost identical in their responses.
I wish the poll takers had asked this followup question of those who don’t think Biden’s in charge: “Do you care?” I bet a lot of Democrats really aren’t perturbed by it, as long as some Democrats and/or leftists – and in particular, people who were in the Obama administration – are steering the ship. But of course that question was not asked.
I’m sure he isn’t, he even tells us that almost every week.
Perhaps the frog can be unboiled.
I thought I was sufficiently cynical about politics, but since 9-11 I’ve been crashing through one barrier after another in what I believed were the limits of deceit, hypocrisy, partisanship, incompetence, craziness and lawbreaking in our political parties, media, corporations and organs of government.
I may not know what to do about it, but I don’t think it’s OK or it’s just a rough patch we’ll get through. I’m far from alone.
The wording is a bit misleading. As Joe Rogan pointed out, Biden’s senility is so obvious that denial is not credible.
A frank assessment would state that 36.4% refuse to admit that Biden is NOT directing policy and is agreeable to any suggested agenda. He’s got what he’s always wanted and given his career, that it was acquired fraudulently is… icing on the cake.
“I may not know what to do about it, but I don’t think it’s OK or it’s just a rough patch we’ll get through. I’m far from alone.” Huxley
This reminds me very much of the 1960s and 70s. The difference being that the colleges were not so deeply in the grasp of the left. I am looking forward to Mark Levin’s new book, which will be out next Tuesday. Titled “American Marxism,” he says he will trace the rise of Marxist ideology in the U.S., name names, and suggest what we must do to turn the tide.
I know one thing that must be done, and that is to stop local school boards from indoctrinating our children with hatred for our country. I’ve never seen a better case for charter schools, Christian schools, conservative private schools, and home schooling. The public schools are failing………in most every way. Even at my advanced age, I still remember the names of my teachers – Miss Peasley, Miss Rose, Miss Tuttle, Mr Saracino, Coach Everly, Mr. Post, and others who did their level best to teach us reading writing, math, science, history, and civics. They were dedicated professionals who loved the country and loved teaching children. There was no teacher’s union in those days. It was a profession done out of love of knowledge and imparting it to children. I am deeply thankful to have had such teachers. Teaching could be an honored profession again – not a bunch of people living off the public, supporting a predatory union, and producing terrible results.
Another thing that seems obvious to me is to rekindle in our citizens a demand that the mayors and governors live up to their oaths of office, which is to protect and defend their citizens and their property. Police and fire departments are the basics of city governance. How did Democrat mayors and city councils decide to defund their police? What planet are they living on? (Planet Marx?) And why aren’t their citizens demanding better?
Well, I hope Mark Levin has some great ideas for action.
At night, after everybody’s gone to bed, Joe and DrJill get out the crystal ball and talk to BIPOC LGBTQ icons from the future. DrJill takes notes. Joe pretends to remember. Sometimes things get a little creative, but by morning, the fog has lifted, and the fraud moves on.
59% of (likely) Democratic voters think Biden is fully in charge (and playing with a full deck? the two are not synonymous!) Nero was fully in charge and burned Rome down.
That is terrible news. It shows how delusional Dems have become.
Fortunately, majorities of Independents and Republicans do not have the same view. And we do have 41% of Dems at least nominally with us. That would make a solid trans-ideological majority!
The gap is widening, the country is tearing apart.
Cornflour:
I don’t think they are using a crystal ball, or Orthanc (LOR), it’s one of those “8 Ball” toys. In the morning they just ask BHO what to do. But then again Dr. Jill may be channeling Edith Wilson.
@Cicero
“Nero was fully in charge and burned Rome down.”
Obviously you don’t move in Urban Planning / ‘Renewal’ Circles. 🙂
“I am looking forward to Mark Levin’s new book, which will be out next Tuesday. Titled “American Marxism,” he says he will trace the rise of Marxist ideology in the U.S., name names, and suggest what we must do to turn the tide. ”
I for one applaud Mark Levin’s brave determination to expose the activities of so many of his ancestral kith and kin, plus various disruptive immigrants of other iffy backgrounds. Diversity being a weakness and all.
Wonder what his universal panacea is? Maybe we all need to go buy more copies his late Dad’s book on Lincoln’s Second Inaugural. The conservative grift always grinds its tortuous and predictable way back to Saint Abe: glorious martyred Re-Founder and Re-Constitutor of the Propositional Nation… Excelsior!
I’ll eat my words if he’s brought out a book with lots of photos of ballistic gel penetrations. Otherwise, really what’s the point? Words, words, words…
“Jane you ignorant slut!” Or Can Do! could actually read something that Mark Levin has written before going to the “Jew” thing. He couldn’t use the melanin tool on Levin. How is Can Do’s social credit today?
@om:
I guess you could write a geology textbook without mentioning rocks. I couldn’t.
Can Do! would just make up his own rocks, ingenious rocks, from the nether regions of Can Do.
And how many people lied to the pollster due to fear of being canceled?
@om:
The boss move is to not eject igneous rocks from the region you are apparently obsessed with.
And one can only wonder who foreign leaders think is in charge; and who they are trying to deal with that will NOT be in the best interest of the USA.
I strayed pretty far from the topic of whether Joe’s in charge or not. Sorry ’bout that!
Polls, can we believe them? Joe’s mental deficiencies were pretty obvious before the election. Still, 81 million people supposedly voted for him. After winning the election, Joe sat down with the Bernie bros and crafted an agenda. An agenda that was hailed by Bernie as the most progressive EVER. And, of course, a lot of the agenda was to delete anything Trump had accomplished. Stop the border wall, open the border, handcuff ICE, stop energy production/exploration/pipelines, raise taxes, go easy on the NATO nations paying for NATO, rejoin the WHO, begin re-regulating businesses using climate change as a cudgel, and much more. Good old Joe could have come up with most of those ideas even in his demented mental state. The next steps, such as spending trillions, handcuffing police forces, dreaming up “equity” plans to equalize outcomes, and all those other steps toward a centralized system are undoubtedly being crafted by Obama and the Bernie bros. If you favor all that, having Joe as a figurehead isn’t a bug, it’s a feature. The MSM will continue to prop him up and the true leftists will continue to sing his praises.
Elections have consequences. We are now acutely aware of that.
Can Do! discovers that his ingenious gems of wisdom are not from kimberlite pipes, nay, they are from a much shallower source.
@om:
Kimberlite, you say?
I’ve been to Kimberley. On a coal-burning choo-choo. Have you?
I’m partly descended from a bank branch manager in this very burg. And partly too from a rootless cosmopolitan you-know-who who followed the gold and diamond rushes to those parts — whence doubtless comes my stiff-neckedness.
If Kimberley teaches us anything,it’s that when you’re at the bottom of a Deep Hole…
Now stick that in your pipe and smoke it. 🙂
There’s a Kimberley Road even still in Tsimshatsui, Kowloon. Nineveh and Tyre. Almost as weird as coming across ‘Cape Town Apartments’ in the Shanghai French Concession.
And Lebuh Kimberley in Penang. I’d rather be there than Kimberley Kimberley in the Current Year:
https://www.penang-traveltips.com/kimberley-street.htm
Can Do! congratulations on recognizing the shallow and unoriginal nature of some of your gems. Should I have referred to diatremes and not caused you pain? Oh to mourn for a lost empire, and yet to cheer for a bigger tyrany. It is a puzzle, but it’s your problem, not mine.
Here’s a challenge. Go to virtually any video of Joe Biden from more than oh, say, ten or twelve years ago, and compare his sharpness and alertness then to his sharpness and alertness now.
Here’s just one example: Sen. Biden questioning Thomas Sowell on the occasion of the Robert Bork hearings in 1987.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfP6UsvYFQ4
Conclusion: the difference is inescapable, not only in quality but in sheer magnitude. Inescapable and *frightening*, given that he’s the man who’s (nominally) in charge.
Bonus — I recall someone telling me during the 2020 presidential campaign that Biden stutters (a long time difficulty), and that explains his sometime hesitancy in responding to things directed at him. I didn’t observe that when he debated Trump, and I certainly don’t observe it in this 1987 video. Conclusion: that stuttering story was gaslighting, attempting to lower the bar, managing debate expectations. In short, total bull spit.
The last President to have any control over the Executive branch or the military was Eisenhower. The bureaucracy he contended with was very much smaller than today’s, almost all its growth occurred after he left office. Moreover, his personal prestige and the fact most senior officials served under him in WW II gave him influence and power that no President since has had.
Today several groups compete to set domestic and foreign policy: the President and a few close aides, senior White House staff, Department Secretaries and a few aides, the senior, permanent Department staffs (often themselves divided), various factions in Congress, big-money donors… Not only do they compete among themselves for selfish interests, they do not accept defeat, and they will try to sabotage any policy that emerges that isn’t theirs. The Trump Presidency was especially plagued by sabotage (especially by Pompeo and Bolton), but even Johnson was buffaloed by the Pentagon.
In every Presidency, the behind the scenes struggle for power is invisible or it is not possible to discuss it because the punishments for doing so are so severe.
The bureaucracy he contended with was very much smaller than today’s, almost all its growth occurred after he left office.
It wasn’t and it didn’t. The ratio to domestic product of that portion of public expenditure devoted to purchases of goods and services increased in a step-wise fashion over the period running from 1929 to 1974, then hit a plateau. It has fluctuated within a narrow band since. It was already quite high ca. 1958 – around about 0.28 v. 0.09 during the 1920s. The Regime has made two attempts to engineer another stepwise increase, the first in 2008-10 and the second in the last year or so.
The difference between the Eisenhower era and our own was that the military share of public expenditure was a great deal larger than it is in our own time. There were particular agencies and offices which had a much lower headcount. Eisenhower’s White House staff had about 250 employees. Richard Nixon’s had over 500. Henry Kissinger’s National Security staff had about 30 employees. Obama’s had some 3-figure sum which was (IIRC) 4x the size of the staff George W Bush employed. The White House is – one might wager – the purest example of Parkinson’s law in the federal government, though it only employs a tiny segment of the whole federal workforce. Note, in Teddy Roosevelt’s time, leaving aside the chamber staff analogous to a wealthy family’s domestic servants, the White House employed about two-dozen people to provide secretarial assistance to the President. Eisenhower’s chancery staff was vastly larger, and included among it’s senior figures men whose job was policy formulation, which was not the case in TR’s time.
It’s not that difficult to figure out ways to give the president more operational control over the executive. Congress will not enact any reforms however. Our federal legislature is ghastly.
bobsykes:
Rex Tillerson, who was he again? John Bolton and Mad Dog Mattis, who were they again? And somehow Pompeo fits in with those Three Stooges? How and why? Do tell.
I didn’t observe that when he debated Trump, and I certainly don’t observe it in this 1987 video. Conclusion: that stuttering story was gaslighting, attempting to lower the bar, managing debate expectations. In short, total bull spit.
You got it. See Brit Hume’s critique of Biden published in The New Republic ca 1986. The man was well understood by the press gallery in Congress to be an incorrigible motormouth whose propensity for showboating was way above the median in Congress.
Art+Deco on July 11, 2021 at 9:07 am said:
It wasn’t and it didn’t. The ratio to domestic product of that portion of public expenditure devoted to purchases of goods and services increased in a step-wise fashion over the period running from 1929 to 1974, then hit a plateau. It has fluctuated within a narrow band since. It was already quite high ca. 1958 – around about 0.28 v. 0.09 during the 1920s. The Regime has made two attempts to engineer another stepwise increase, the first in 2008-10 and the second in the last year or so.
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Art Deco:
If you have a citation for the data that you’ve included in your comment, can you please provide it? If the data are from a book or a paper, then I’d like to read it. On the other hand, if you’re working from memory of a bunch of different sources, then no need to reply. I’m just trying to save myself the work of doing the research. Thanks.
If you have a citation for the data that you’ve included in your comment, can you please provide it? If the data are from a book or a paper, then I’d like to read it. On the other hand, if you’re working from memory of a bunch of different sources, then no need to reply. I’m just trying to save myself the work of doing the research. Thanks.
That’s from the Bureau of Economic Analysis Interactive Data. In print, I think it would have been published in Survey of Current Business.
Joe Biden in charge…with a deaddddddddddddddddd battery.
Terrible… Zaphod sent me into the mental equivalent of a glue trap talking about Penang… I suddenly found myself watching videos on Hokkien and trying to figure out the difference in tonal systems between it and standard Chinese.
Anyway, to the topic at hand: I checked the slides from the Trafalgar Group that were linked, and it looks like a pretty dorky poll to me – am I understanding correctly that it consisted of basically one question?! I think Neo has a fine if painfully obvious point about the lack of a follow-up or elaboration question. I’m quite convinced that she’s right that Dems/Left wouldn’t generally care much even if their answer were ‘no’ because they have no need to care as long as they can rest upon the deep-state hive mind.
I’m also inclined to find a bit of fault in the wording of the question vis-a-vis the possible answers – “executing the duties of the office” and “directing all policy and agenda” are not necessarily equivalent, so I see a potential for data mismatch there. I don’t like it when polls are sloppy in such a way.
Whatever knowing that Joe Biden not in charge, somebody behind the curtains been in charge…. so who are they and what they planning that’s the question?
Presumably Klain’s in charge in a double act with Jill Biden. Jill’s mostly useful for keeping up the charade. I’ll wager the cabinet secretaries are mostly running their own show.
when seen those tv program from Kardashians, The Real Housewives of Orange County, The Real Housewives of New York City, The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills……
All those shows tell what’s these wife’s bring to the society in today time, were that American dream and Value was every American proud of it…
These mass of shows and others may be more, tells us our society going down to a big swage Manhole ….
Can you remember way back to his highly touted Vice Presidential Debate ?
He was a Grinning Fool then, and he’s a Grinning Fool now !
dh (3:50 pm) said: “Somebody behind the curtains been in charge. So who are they and what they planning that’s the question?”
They are a coordinating team of Marxists and near-Marxists. I do not keep track of their identities. What they’re planning is an accelerated continuation of Obama’s “fundamental transformation” of the USA into a collectivist, politically correct “woke” dictatorship — a dictatorship of the elite, by the elite, and for the elite, now that the country I and most of us here at neo’s once knew, shall have then perished from the earth.
dh (3:50 pm) said: “Somebody behind the curtains been in charge. So who are they and what they planning that’s the question?”
They are a coordinating team of Marxists and near-Marxists. I do not keep track of their identities. What they’re planning is an accelerated continuation of Obama’s “fundamental transformation” of the USA into a collectivist, politically correct “woke” dictatorship — a dictatorship of the elite, by the elite, and for the elite — eagerly anticipating the day when the country I (and most of us here at neo’s) once knew, shall have perished from the earth.
What they’re planning is an accelerated continuation of Obama’s “fundamental transformation” of the USA into a collectivist, politically correct “woke” dictatorship — a dictatorship of the elite, by the elite, and for the elite
M J R:
One way I understand the current world is that the global elites, the Davos set, are several steps ahead. It’s all about global control and their biggest obstacle is what remains of the patriotic American middle-class.
@Philip Sells:
“Zaphod sent me into the mental equivalent of a **glue trap** talking about Penang… I suddenly found myself watching videos on Hokkien and trying to figure out the difference in tonal systems between it and standard Chinese.”
Mission accomplished!
As they say, “A Language is a Dialect with an Army”, so the Min Language Family (and all the weird and wonderful variants of *it*) go under the broad umbrella of “Fujian Dialect” in China where there is but one officially acknowledged Chinese Language (Putonghua).
Nobody but nobody has a clue what is being said when the Fujianese or Chaozhou types start yakking away…
Difficult for even other Chinese to learn, but not as fiendishly difficult as Chaozhou dialect. Both dialects are of some importance given that they are big in the diaspora — especially SE Asia. And both groups have a penchant for secret society organised crime combined with extreme patriotism — play well with Chinese intelligence work overseas. They’re much more clannish than other Chinese who are already family obsessed — so have very complicated and precise vocabularies to define family relationships out to insane degrees.
Easy to spot when you’re in a Fujianese China Town — look at the romanisations on shop signs and you’ll see lots of ‘Boon’ (Putonghua Wen (writing/culture) phoneme maps to this) and ‘Beng’ (Putonghua Ming (Bright) phoneme maps to this). Actually quite easy to spot them by physiognomy most of the time too… just as a Hunanese looks very different from a tall giant from Shandong.
“Biden has always been a doofus”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlw5lNIQN1c
Thomas Sowell, Clarence Thomas and Newt Gingrich expose Biden for the incompetent phony he always was, and still is.
I’ve always wondered…
how do you say “Uh-oh” in a tonal language?
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/chinas-credit-impulse-just-bottomed-profound-implications-global-economies-and-markets
> If you favor all that, having Joe as a figurehead isn’t a bug, it’s a feature. The MSM will continue to prop him up and the true leftists will continue to sing his praises.
This is actually one of the lessons we have learned (perhaps too late) over the past century. There is always going to be some class of people making the decisions on how to rule society. This is inevitable.
A family may be a partnership between man, woman, and children, but eventually someone must call the shots. In a healthily ordered society that will be a man motivated by love for his wife and children. That is the model that produces the best outcomes overall, since it does not benefit a man to be tyrannical or abusive toward a family he loves and wishes to cultivate for his legacy.
In America, we have created a system of electing people to official stations, but these official stations are only nominally related to positions of actual power. The actual power rests elsewhere in an unaccountable network of careerist bureaucrats & managers (& oligarchs) that has grown in society inevitably as part of the trend toward technocratic specialization.
The problem here is twofold. One, the class of people who are actually in charge of society are not benevolent toward the nation as a whole. In fact, they express (for whatever reason) extreme disdain for the actual people of America. The second is that the remainder of this partnership can’t point towards a single point of leadership to actually *hold accountable* for decades of malicious policies that have hurt America. Say what you like about dictatorship, but at least deposing a dictator is a proven way to change the government.
What America wrestles with now is a hydra fueled by hostile foreign magicks that must be beaten severely — But not completely annihilated because destroying it would also destroy the nation. Not at all clear the good guys will win and the consequence of failure is more or less the end of human freedom forever due to advancements in the totalitarian state.
Like i said it was
It’s a double standard that when Trump was in office, particularly during his first year, that psychologists and psychiatrists who suffered from TDS went on air to openly diagnose him. Then comes Biden and they’re mum. It’s the same double standard on how the press treats the Jan. 6 protestors and Proud Boys to BLM and Antifa.