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Heavy lies the formerly royal head that will never wear the crown — 64 Comments

1. It appears mandatory, on the American left, to defend an entitled and narcissistic actress of little accomplishment as a victim of “racism” when many, at the beginning of her public fame, were hardly even aware of her as a “person of color”. Similarly, an ill-bred young student at Smith (Oumou Kanoute) managed to create chaos on the campus and tragedy for several employees of the school without any criticism from the left. Meghan lives in a mansion worth nearly fifteen million dollars in one of the whitest regions of the country, and the young black woman was privileged to attend a college for which tuition is nearly three hundred thousand dollars over four years, yet both could garner great sympathy from the ever-compliant MSM by donning the mantle of “victimhood.”

2. I peeked in for about half an hour, as Ms. M J R was taking in the entire two hours.

   I was interested to get their perspective: how racist and petty those Brits are, how unsupportive the royal family are. What I came away with was: gee, you mean there’s a country out there that’s even more racist than USA is? There’s a country out there that’s even more needlessly demeaning and non-nurturing than USA is?

   Who’d’a’ thunk??

3. My comment to Meghan would be:
   You won the lottery by being born in the USA. In few, if any other, countries could you have achieved the standard of living you enjoy. If you are depressed, see a therapist. If you are bored, get a job or take up a hobby. Life is too short to be spent in self pity. Do you realize how insignificant your complaints are? Now buck up and be a great wife and mother.

4. I find hard to muster up any sympathy for the whole bunch.

5. Meghan wanted to be a bigger star, but then learned that being a royal meant accepting responsibilities. She is a jerk.

6. As president, George Washington used to ride solo on horseback in his full regalia.

   President Thomas Jefferson was also an avid solo horseman but rode in his “work clothes” or similar description and was often mistaken for a hired hand. Even while residing in the White House, a visitor once addressed Jefferson as a servant, asking if he knew if the President was in.

   Mark Steyn said that the virtue of having celebrity monarchs is that the Brits don’t have to put up with preening prime ministers acting like a self-important Nancy Pelosi flying around in her own Boeing jetliner.

7. Awful narcissistic woman married to a pathetic cuck. She would have started any unpleasantness, but it’s like bringing a knife to a gun fight — meet more than a handful of the products of the English Public Schools and you soon learn just how good they are at finding the mark, twisting the knife, etc. The trauma of being sent off to board at a very early impressionable age does things to a person.

   Not worth paying much attention to, except that attacks on the British Monarchy are attacks on the UK’s largely unwritten constitution.

   Anyway, Bugger Walter Bagehot and these transplanted minor German royals. I’m a Jacobite this week, so Long live Franz, Duke of Bavaria!

8. I hear you, Neo. I am olive complected, myself, due mostly to my father’s Greek and Bulgarian heritage (my Polish-Lithuanian mother’s family has about equal amount fair complected blondes, at least as kids, brunettes and some with olive skin tones). My skin tone is only slightly lighter than Markle’s. Not surprisingly, I’ve gotten the “what are you?” question frequently, throughout my life. I’ve regularly been mistaken for Middle Eastern, Hispanic, East Indian, and, on a couple occasions, mixed with black.

   Here’s an intriguing trend I noticed even when I was still a liberal. The people who felt bold enough to ask me this upon meeting me (or shortly thereafter) were almost entirely on the left l. Often, it seemed as though they compulsively needed to know my racial background, so they could neatly place me in their pecking order of victimization. A couple times, I’m sure I noticed a look of dejection on their faces when they learned I was white.

   There were many small precursors to my leaving the left. This persistent obsession with race and victimization (and this was in the 90s and early 2000s…so not 1/10th of the obsession today), and my utter disgust with it, was definitely one of them.

9. There does seem to be something about being royalty that causes people to flee from it. Then thing is those that flee don’t really do anything when they flee. I mean what has Harry and Meghan done since leaving the royal family?

   Still, talking about royalty, I always thought it weird when my fellow Americans seem as obsessed with the British royals. We had a revolution for some pretty good reasons so why should we care?

10. The “pathetic cuck” served 10 years in the British Army with 2 tours of duty in Afghanistan. Afterward he created the Invictus Games, a “Paralympic-style sporting event for injured service members, to inspire and support the wounded.”
    That’s not too shabby.
    Or were you referring to Camilla and Prince Charles?

11. I’ve no problem with his military service. Born to wealth and privilege, least a person can do is Serve. Frankly, best thing he could have done would have been to cop a bullet in the head and have a nice memorial somewhere.

    Having said that, there are plenty of pathetic cucks who are lions in the boardroom or on the battlefield and utterly dominated by wifey as soon as they walk in their front door after a hard day at the office. Something pathological about it.

    Invictus Games.. Nice Work. These things are a bit of an industry these days. I’m more for just getting on with it and dealing with adversity rather than turning it into a three ring circus. But that’s just me. YMMV.

    No time for Camilla and Charles (or his Late Excessively Lamented Ho). There’s a good Australian expression for Camilla: “As Ugly as a hatful of %$#%%%%%.” Something deeply messed up about Charles.

    All they need to do is STFFU and do their jobs and take the money. How hard can it be?

12. The social lives of multi-millionaire celebrities has never interested me much. The “hardships” they face are pathetic.

13. The rightful king of England lived in Australia anyway according to people who like to entertain themselves with such things.

    Unless someone finds a descendant of Harold Godwineson’s sons living in the hills of Kentucky, or something. Lord Elvis, 1st baron of Hopkinsville and Clay county.

14. I never heard of Meghan before she began seeing Harry, and then only because of headlines at the Daily Mail. I never would have assumed her to be “black,” based on photos. Some kind of Mediterranean background, I would have guessed. I have a relative who considers herself “black,” whose skin is only slightly lighter than Meghan’s. She, however, has the tightly-curled African hair, which Meghan doesn’t seem to (unless she spends an awful lot of time and effort on it).

    I would never, ever ask “What are you?” How tremendously rude.

    As to Meghan’s claims of being so mistreated, I don’t believe her. Or if it’s true, it means that her boyfriend/husband made no effort to help her or defend her within his family. As to Harry’s stated hope of reconciling with his brother after this performance, good luck with that one. Splashing ugly stories about the family on worldwide TV is an odd way to go about it.

    Let’s stop treating our presidents’ families as “First Family,” while we’re at it, and avoid this kind of melodrama. Let the chief executive do his job, and leave the family out of it.

15. and these transplanted minor German royals.

    William’s mother was from an antique noble family of the English Midlands. The Queen’s mother was out of the Scottish nobility. Prince Philip’s background is German-Danish-Russian, however, he’s a descendant of the Danish royal family. George VI’s mother was out of the south German nobility (but lived in England her whole life). His father was the grandson of the King of Denmark. Prince Albert was a minor German royal, but the Hanoverians had occupied the British throne for > 130 years by the time he came on the scene. From 1714 to 1837, the British King was also King / Elector of Hanover. Hanover was a 2d rank German state, more consequential than all but four other German states – not minor.

16. I share a dismissive and low opinion of the couple.

    It’s also a virtual certainty that in his two tours of duty in Afghanistan, Harry was never in any danger whatsoever. Virtue signalling as self-aggradizement. They’re a good match in that.

    Queen Elizabeth and husband and perhaps Prince William and wife understand that the U.K. Royalty’s job is not to ‘pretend at rule’ but to represent societal stability. Apparently that escapes Harry and Meghan is far too self-involved to either recognize it or care.

    I also think it likely that she was repeatedly abusive to the help.

    Isn’t it informative… how lack of character is revealed, when those who embrace victimhood become oppressors themselves at the first opportunity?

17. https://youtu.be/yuTMWgOduFM?list=RDJTTC_fD598A
    “Common People” – just a One Hit Wonder solo singer.

    But the idea of a rich girl who “wants to live like common people” is something that lots of rich kids have long had.
    Part of the Four Season’s song “Dawn” (go away I’m no good for you).

    Snobs who don’t want to be snobs; but can’t really help themselves. In the songs. In real life.

18. PBS broadcast a drama called “King Charles III,” with the current royal family’s issues after Queen Elizabeth dies. One plotline has Harry dating a black woman then leaving the family. The drama was created in 2017, and has Charles being forced to abdicate and William being elevated to the crown.

    It was written in a Shakespearean style of blank verse. Interesting that Harry followed his fictional counterpart.

    I only saw a preview, but when Oprah asked her to tell “your truth”, it was going to be a fiasco. Unfortunately, someone’s perceptions are now “their truth,” which rarely seems to be actual truth anymore.

19. Forget the Great White Whale… Oprah is in the House.

    But even she must have her Nightmares of the Id.

    The Try-Works:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLmEbpKjHAg

    That’s *my* Truth.

20. Geoffrey Britain:

    Sorry bud, but flying those heliocopters is a decidely risky occupation. A tad dangerous as they say.

21. Didn’t see the interview but heard the review. So the interview was with two super rich black women sitting around and bitching about “racism/sexism inherent the system”.

    And they got their riches with their shows that were supported by the deplorables who “oppressed” them. The irony abounds.

22. I didn’t watch as I really don’t care; but, I did hear about the “concern about the baby’s color” comment.

    To make such an outrageous claim of a “racist” comment and then NOT name or provide any evidence is clearly a “let me punch them all in the face” on Meghan and Harry’s part as everyone will now be wondering which member (if not all) of the royal family said it.

    I do believe that was their intent – give ALL of the royal family a black eye.

    Meghan is clearly the 21st century version of Wallis Simpson; with the added bonus of being able to play the race card!

23. During his first tour in Afghanistan, “Harry’s role was to coordinate air strikes from the ground.”
    Then he “completed training as a pilot of Apache helicopters, as well as gunship training in California. He was reportedly quite good at it.”
    “Army heads considered Harry’s new position as a co-pilot gunner in the helicopter to be less of a risk than operating on the ground as he had before.” And that’s how he served his second tour in Afghanistan.

24. Eva Marie:

    Pistol Pete Buttiggeggggg served in Afghanistan too, but more as REMF IIRC. Coordinating air strikes is a bit dicey, mess up the grid coordinates once, well you’re history.

25. om,

    After writing that, I had that exact same thought. So I looked him up and discovered that his first tour was for 4 months. Couldn’t find out how long his second tour was but I rather doubt if it was a lot longer. I then looked up crashes of Apache helicopters which is what he flew. In Afghanistan, up until 2021 there have been 13 crashes none of which occurred from hostile action. All were United States copters, the British suffered none. He got just enough action to be able to claim that he’d “seen the elephant”. Though from a safe distance firing rockets at taliban insurgents from a mile away. So he did his part at least as much as the third in line for the throne could be allowed to do. But 4 months is not a ‘tour’. It’s an ‘appearance’. He’s no Henry V, no hand to hand combat at Agincourt.

26. Every country seems to have a head of state. Ours is a constitutional monarchy. We are happy with that, especially if we look at the alternatives. I noticed a snarky remark about Charles. His charity (privately funded) has help jump start young people – over a million of them.

27. Harry’s second tour was also 4 months. He was probably in more danger than most combatants because of who he was. His presence also endangered those around him to a greater extent because of who he was. The real issue is – by 2008 and certainly by 2013 what was anyone doing there? And why were British soldiers there in the first place?

28. “The real issue is – by 2008 and certainly by 2013 what was anyone doing there? And why were British soldiers there in the first place?”

    Now you’re talking. Can get on board with that.

    But this is the Tabloid Thread, so let’s get back to arguing about silly stuff!

    So… suffice it to say that I see Harry as a living breathing exemplar of James Joyce’s quip that Paternity is a Legal Fiction. Breeding Will Out. Spitting image of James Hewitt — a man not known for his IQ or his judgement.

29. Harry’s deployments were cut short because the press leaked them. He was quite angry because he wanted to stay with his units. I will give him credit for that. It was not a “check the box” kind of thing.

    One reason that the British family has stayed popular with the people because they work very hard. For them it is not a life of ease. They don’t just shake hands and pal around. Phillip, Charles and William are all pilots and served. Elizabeth II will go down as a great monarch. She helped preserve the monarchy and the sense of Britain that it entails.

30. I know what’s going on and most here do not ; )

    https://rumble.com/veii9x-meghan-and-harry-a-psychic-perspective-delving-deep.html

    If you want to know the truth, click on the link and take the red pill.

    If you want to exercise your right to NOT know, you do you.

    “Geoffrey Britain on March 10, 2021 at 9:45 pm said:
    I share a dismissive and low opinion of the couple.”

    As a Son of God, I feel compassion for these humans, no matter who they are or their titles and experiences. Jeffery Epstein, serial killers, all are human. God is no respecter of persons. Which is another way of saying… we really do not have much expectations of these human children.

31. Pistol Pete Buttiggeggggg served in Afghanistan too,

    In a non-combat role. David French was a JAG in Iraq.

32. Meghan is clearly the 21st century version of Wallis Simpson; with the added bonus of being able to play the race card!

    1. She’s fertile, Wallis wasn’t.

    2. Wallis had been married for decades to two different men; she was cuckolding one when she took up with Prince David.

    3. Wallis didn’t give interviews.

    4. Edward and Wallis seem to have had an inchoate admiration for Hitler. Meghan is woke-tard. First time as tragedy, second time as farce.

33. Interesting that Harry followed his fictional counterpart.

    Meghan’s ancestry is around 60% caucasian. What”s known of her mother’s views suggest mama’s California New Age – something quite unusual among blacks in the US or in Britain.

34. It’s also a virtual certainty that in his two tours of duty in Afghanistan, Harry was never in any danger whatsoever.

    You know this how?

35. Like Kate above, I had seen several news photos of Meghan without it ever crossing my mind that she was “black.” Something Mediterranean/tropical/Latin was my vague thought.

    What did strike me very strongly, though, was something like “that girl is trouble.” She’s got a vibe that’s unfortunately common among young American women these days: vain, entitled, eager to be offended. Narcissistic, I guess, is the word.

36. “For them it is not a life of ease”

    Sorry I have to laugh at this.

    I give full credit to anyone who has served in the military, whether in a combat situation or not. I will not argue about how much danger he was in. His service is admirable.

    But to say that they do not have a life of ease…they are multi-millionaires who’s most difficult task it seems is to shake hands with people and give fatuous interviews.

    I agree with Zaphod and Eva Marie a more interesting discussion is why we are still in Afghanistan and the whole never ending war business. Since I am very new to this forum, I assume you all have had many of those discussions.

37. But to say that they do not have a life of ease…they are multi-millionaires who’s most difficult task it seems is to shake hands with people and give fatuous interviews.

    1. Among Charles activities are a number of viable business and philanthropic projects.

    2. Prince Andrew was in the military for 20 years.

    3. They almost never give fatuous interviews. This one is under discussion because the phenomenon is so unusual.

    4. Princess Anne makes about 600 public appearances a year on behalf of philanthropies she supports.

38. Consistent with the British commenter, above, the arrangement with the British royal family has been, probably since Queen Victoria, that the Crown will provide societal stability. And Elizabeth II and her father have both been excellent in their roles. In exchange, while the family are enormously wealthy in their own right, the British public funds the maintenance of the royal residences and the security costs of the working royals. Six family members receive around-the-clock security coverage; several others, who frequently make public charity appearances, are covered by security while making those appearances. So it’s a personal “life of ease” but with significant duties expected in return.

    Again, I only read headlines at the Daily Mail. (Hah!) But it seems that Catherine Middleton and Prince William gave considerable time and thought to how their marriage would work, and to whether Catherine would be able to handle the public aspects of her position, before deciding to marry. Harry and Meghan appeared not to have invested enough time to know each other and, for her, to know what the consequences would be, before diving in. Perhaps some of us have married in haste and had to deal with the consequences afterwards. Those difficulties would be magnified enormously in the case of the prince and the American divorcée. They have elected to leave the family. Their choice.

39. Sorry Art+Deco, your list proves my point.

40. Someone had mentioned James Hewitt above…I was recently watching an old clip of Norm MacDonald on SNL Weekend Update from the 90’s and was shocked to see them put up a picture of Prince Harry until I realized that Norm was making some joke about Princess Di’s affair with Hewitt. I realized that that tale of Harry’s parentage has been debunked supposedly a thousand times over, but the resemblance is uncanny.

    As far as Harry himself, he really did seem like an un-woke guy years ago. He did the combat tours in Afghanistan even with huge bounties declared on his head, he was dating one supermodel after another, and then there was that incident where he showed up to a party in full Nazi attire. I would imagine that what we know about his single days is only the tip of the iceberg, so it is entirely possible that the “deep state” had serious dirt on him and crafted this woke marriage as a means of blackmail and at the same time as a means to hurt the monarchy. His apparent embrace of all things woke could be a form of Stockholm syndrome.

41. The question I have about Meghan and the role she was unable to play is that I thought she was an ACTRESS. Behaving with grace in public, in exchange for a fabulously wealthy private life, should have been a job she could easily handle.

    Going off the edge over critical articles in tabloids sounds like this ridiculous NYTimes reporter who claims her “life has been ruined” because of public criticism of her reports.

42. @DNW:The rightful king of England lived in Australia anyway according to people who like to entertain themselves with such things.

    There are people who find this sort of thing very interesting… but the “rightful” king is really defined by Parliament, that was settled in 1688.

    I have entertained myself with figuring out who in the past could have been on the throne had the rules of succession always been consistently applied. However after a short divergence you come right back to the existing line of monarchs. These alternatives were generally highly dangerous to the existing monarch and had short lives as a consequence so you can’t follow their descendants very far.

    Unless someone finds a descendant of Harold Godwineson’s sons living in the hills of Kentucky, or something. Lord Elvis, 1st baron of Hopkinsville and Clay county.

    Harold Godwinson had no hereditary right to the throne he occupied. Edgar Atheling should have come ahead of him; he in turn was displaced by Duke William. But the rules we use now weren’t in place then, and there was some sense in which the throne was thought to be elective.

    William the Conqueror changed that but he didn’t follow the rules of today either; his oldest son inherited Normandy, not England. He of course had no hereditary right either, but unlike Harold he established his descendants pretty thoroughly so I think it makes sense to reckon from him.

    If you want long-lost heirs there’s still Plantagenets around with documented ancestry. The House of Godwin was scattered to the winds, with only the Kievan Rus’ branch persisting after the Conquest.

43. I realized that that tale of Harry’s parentage has been debunked supposedly a thousand times over, but the resemblance is uncanny.

    Hewitt in 1986 resembled Charles Spencer. I don’t think that’s random. Diana was bent in certain ways.

44. the British public funds the maintenance of the royal residences and the security costs of the working royals. Six family members receive around-the-clock security coverage; several others, who frequently make public charity appearances, are covered by security while making those appearances. So it’s a personal “life of ease” but with significant duties expected in return.

    1. The income accruing to Crown Estate properties provides for their maintenance. In recent years, members of the family have been compelled to kick back rent for their formerly grace-and-favour residences. They’re not financed out of tax collections.

    2. Sandringham and Balmoral are the Queen’s personal properties.

    3. Yes, the Queen’s family has a security detail. So does the American president’s family; just a more expensive one.

45. If you want long-lost heirs there’s still Plantagenets around with documented ancestry.

    Don’t think so. There are Jacobite pretenders, but no Jacobite heir has offered even a pro forma claim to the throne since 1807.

46. Sorry Art+Deco, your list proves my point.

    Self-declared victories are always the most impressive. Toodles.

47. I just find Markle a terrible embarrassment for our country.

48. Kate @ 9:37am,

    She’s no Grace Kelly.

49. jeanne nails that aspect of the thing very well.

    For those who are interested, the TV series The Crown is worth watching. You should start with the assumption that everything that’s not a public fact is fiction, and moreover fiction that pretty clearly has an agenda. I am not the biggest fan of Prince Charles but I doubt that he’s the monster he’s portrayed as when the inevitable Princess Di part of the chronicle comes. But if you can ignore that stuff, I think it does a decent job of portraying what it might actually feel like to be one of the royal family: the weird combination of privilege and restriction and the awful public scrutiny.

    p.s. I used to love The X-Files, but Gillian Anderson as Margaret Thatcher is awful. I couldn’t figure out why she was picked for the role till I read that she’s married to the director (or producer, or somebody). Of course it was a foregone conclusion that Thatcher would be portrayed as ridiculous as well as cruel, so maybe it’s just as well that they didn’t do a better job of it.

50. Rufus T Firefly

    Princess Graceless?

51. Oh, and another thing: if you just want to get the what-it’s-like aspect, and not have to put up with the heavy tendentiousness that sets in when Di and Thatcher come onto the scene, just stop after the second season. Not that the earlier parts aren’t tendentious, but not quite as heavily.

52. Kate,
    Meagan’s hair.
    She spends and awful lot of time and effort on it.
    Zoom in on her part line in some photos.
    I refuse to consider her truly ‘woke’ until she goes natural!
    Is that mean?

53. My mom watched the entire Oprah interview. She’s Team Meghan-Harry and now thinks whomever asked what the baby will look like is a closeted racist, and therefore racism must also run deep within the royal family. My father followed her up by pondering aloud that black Brits don’t think the British royal family ever looked out for them. I’m not all too surprised of this type of rhetoric coming from them. What I’m surprised is the lack of British royal family memorabilia in my parent’s living room. And a lack of tea cups.

54. I do think poster Eva Marie has brought up a decent point on the personal attacks on Meghan and Harry here in terms of their careers before their marriage. People are just bringing up things that don’t say much about their character even though they think it does.

    Sure, Markle isn’t an accomplished actor (however one may define that) where a person may look at her filmography and conclude that she is an actress of “little accomplishments”, but Markle was a regular on a tv series for about seven years. A vast majority of actors, whether tv or film, don’t find work for that duration and for that amount. Getting on a particular tv show/film with a particular director with a particular producer made by a particular studio that may lead to industry awards is part roll of the dice and part career calculation. Did anyone know that Friends or Seinfeld would be a success back in the day? No. Markle may not be “accomplished”, but she managed to work for seven years avoiding the journeyman route many an actor without much connections find themselves on. With that said, casting today is more of a business than vetting for actual talent (i.e. professional sports, ballet, orchestra) when it comes to the most coveted scripts and roles in any age range.

    As for Harry, joining the military when he didn’t have to speaks a lot especially of someone of his social status in the capacity he did. Give credit where it is due. Same thing with Buttigieg; he could’ve chosen to stay behind a desk during his seven months deployed but he chose to leave the wire to do a more physical and mentally challenging task. Plus, not everyone seeks out to be in combat arms, let alone is fit to do such a job, if they do join. A more important issue of Harry in my mind is how someone went from coordinating missile strikes or whatever he did to becoming doormat for his wife.

55. Interesting post by Geoffrey Britain – the observation that those claiming victimhood are frequently the oppressors.

56. Oh, for sure, jeanne. Look at the privileged NY Times reporter who is claiming misogynist oppression because a male TV host criticized her work.

57. Same thing with Buttigieg; he could’ve chosen to stay behind a desk during his seven months deployed but he chose to leave the wire to do a more physical and mentally challenging task.

    Sorry, I’m not persuaded that Buttigieg had any choices over what his work assignments.

    Buttigieg is a walking resume.

    While we’re at it, when you’re a core city mayor, the one set of metrics which matters more than any other are crime rates. If anything, they got marginally worse during his tenure. (As they did during Cory Booker’s tenure in Newark).

58. For those who are interested, the TV series The Crown is worth watching.

    Sorry, no sale.

59. Kate – weird, isn’t it?

    Piers Morgan is sort of unknown to me but I find myself very much in his corner right now. A hero!

60. Art+Deco:

    Sorry I was pressed for time trying to get to work.

    So let me try to address your list / concern.

    First when I say they live a life of ease, I’m not necessarily saying they are lazy, just that their life is easy compared to most normal people. Most people do not live in the luxury they live in 24/7 and many have jobs that require far more manual labor than they will ever experience.

    Has Prince Harry or any Royal ever been unemployed where he had to worry about making a house or rent payment? I’ve been out of work twice in my career and it is a scary ass thing. Has he/they ever had to worry about his medical care? I doubt it. I view a life of ease as one without any significant hardships or struggles. I can’t really see that they’ve had any nor does your list provide them.

    You mention philanthropic projects, by that standard I guess I can’t say that Bill Gates or Jeff Bezos have an easy life now. But at least they did have to work hard and were not necessarily given it on a literal silver platter. How did any of the Royals ever have to really struggle for what they were given? Yes they have duties, BFD.

    You mention Prince Andrew being in the military for 20 years. Was this before or after he was boinking underage girls on Jeffrey Epstein’s island? I was in the military also, for 4 years, non-combat, Air Force. I spent those four years in either a barracks or dormitory. Did Prince Andrew live for 20 years in a dormitory? If so, I’m impressed. His military service is laudatory but I doubt it represented a real hardship or struggle. But if it did, it certainly isn’t how he lives now and doesn’t compensate much for his other escapades.

    As for their public appearances, I couldn’t give a rats ass. If you want to declare that that represents a hard working life. Fine. I don’t.

    They are fatuous people who live fatuous lives.

61. They are fatuous people who live fatuous lives.

    The term ‘fatuous’ does not mean what you fancy it means.

    First when I say they live a life of ease, I’m not necessarily saying they are lazy, just that their life is easy compared to most normal people. Most people do not live in the luxury they live in 24/7 and many have jobs that require far more manual labor than they will ever experience.

    About 15% of the working population in this country is employed in agriculture and industry and a slice of them are support staff and management. There are some service sector jobs which require stamina. Shy of 4% of the working population is to be found in transportation and materials moving and another 11% are in hospitality. Again, some of these are support staff and management. Hands-on medical sector employees amount to about 6% of the working population.

    Two of the Queen’s three sons, two of her three adult grandsons, and two of her six paternal side cousins (male) had extensive time in the service. That’s well well in excess of the mean for any of those cohorts into which they were born. Overall, they logged 88 man-years in various branches of the British military. One other paternal-side cousin was a combat veteran who served time as a prisoner of war. The Queen’s husband was in service for 11 years.

    Has Prince Harry or any Royal ever been unemployed where he had to worry about making a house or rent payment? I’ve been out of work twice in my career and it is a scary ass thing. Has he/they ever had to worry about his medical care? I doubt it. I view a life of ease as one without any significant hardships or struggles. I can’t really see that they’ve had any nor does your list provide them.

    The worry about medical care in Britain is that you’ll be stuck in a queue, not that you cannot pay for it. Harry’s 36 years old and is like most men of that age; he’s never spent much time in doctor’s waiting rooms.

    The average person has about 28 months worth of interstitial unemployment over the course of their adult life in this country, with typical instances lasting about 15 weeks. Somewhat under 1/2 qualify for unemployment compensation. I doubt Britain today is much different, though people who were in the working population there ca. 1986 are quite familiar with l/t unemployment. It’s abnormally concentrated among young people and among people who rely on low skill service jobs. It’s not hard to find people who know little of unemployment past age 25. Are you cheesed at them too?

    Was this before or after he was boinking underage girls on Jeffrey Eptein’s island?

    I’ll remind the commissioner of jurors in your area that you’re one to strike every time. For the record, he was in service from 1979 to 1999.

    Thanks for the display of petty resentment and the goal post moving. It’s been an education.

62. Art+Deco
    Fatuous means silly, I looked it up. Moving what goal posts? I stated they live a life of ease and nothing you state in your reply refutes that. As to petty resentments, LOL. Hell, I don’t resent them, I don’t think about them from one day to the next. They are fatuous (there’s that word again) people. You mention a lot of statistics about the working population etc etc. I cannot see how this affects my argument in the least and seems rather irrelevant. But I appreciate your kind parting words. They show real class.

63. Fatuous means silly,

    It means complacently foolish.

    Moving what goal posts?

    Your remarks on military service.

    As to petty resentments, LOL

    Your complaint is that they were born wealthy. It’s not difficult to understand why this complaint is petty and inane. Flip the script and imagine someone who grew up in an Ecuadorean slum evaluating you. Or perhaps an ordinary wage earner who came of age with my grandmother.

    I cannot see how this affects my argument in the least

    Try being sharper.

64. A dictionary can have more than one entry Art, but you know that.

    Try being gracious.

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