I guess that some law schools…
…have forgotten that our system of justice is adversarial, and that unless everyone is allowed legal representation it doesn’t work. To take revenge on a lawyer for representing someone is to descend to banana republic territory.
But we’ve already done that.
What far too few pseudo-conservatives seem to realize (or perhaps to care about) is that the hostility to DJT emanating not simply from the left, but even more egregiously from certain portions of the GOP establishment, including National Review (now almost completely worthless except for VDH), is that this totalitarian frenzy is not directed only, or even primarily, at Trump himself, but at anyone and everyone who can in any way be associated with him. The goal of leftists, now that they are in full control of the Leninist “commanding heights” of business, culture, media, politics, and technology is to crush any and all dissent “by any means necessary.”
I’ve been in a Twitter dispute with the Dean of the Creighton Law School. It started in the Fall when one of his students tried to start a race riot here in Omaha. The student has over 5k followers and he tweeted that a policeman had “murdered” a black man during a traffic stop. He later deleted that tweet but published other tweets along the lines that “the police are the problem” and that “a black man was killed during a traffic stop.”
Turns out a few days later that the black guy was a twice convicted felon who was going for his loaded handgun when he was killed. What a brave and fast-thinking police officer! Well trained! The traffic stop was legit and the guy who was killed had disobeyed numerous orders like “show me your hands.”
The Dean wrote that he was “proud” of this law student and defended him. I was incensed.
Later a professor wrote that 1-6-21 was an insurrection. I corrected her on the imprecision of her language as that never would have been tolerated when I was at Creighton. She whined and said it was a personal attack. The Dean defended her. She blocked me.
The final incident was one where he told me “to be kind. It matters. It really does.” This guy is a Dem and his wife ran for the House as a Dem from W. VA. I’m confident that he’s a liberal who fully supported the liar CBF in the very unkind slander and kangaroo court proceedings that the Dems ran on Justice Brett Kavanaugh.
In conjunction with our final incident and before his “be kind” comment, he apologized to other Creighton Law alums for my words on Twitter which I won’t fully detail but are well within the bounds of social media commentary.
I’m so, so disappointed in my alma mater. The academy is lost. It wasn’t like that when I was in law school. It was all business. No wokeness or identity politics. Liberalism is destroying America and Free Speech. The Dems are such epic hypocrites.
Cornhead:
You are correct. They academy is lost. It has been for quite some time.
Allan Bloom wasn’t imagining stuff.
If you want to read a chilling book that focuses on legal education and law, and was written in the late 1990s, take a look at this.
I was formerly active on a Creighton sports message board. Many bitter battles with libs in the OT section and that carried over to the basketball board. I was totally hated and they finally kicked me off. The last topic was “Free Speech.”
Many said my Creighton degree should be revoked or worse.
The amazing thing to me was that I can’t hardly believe we attended the same university. Liberalism is the default view and many think that in order to be a good Catholic you have to vote Dem.
Cornhead:
The lawyers in the DOD have managed to get their diversity madness implemented in the Navy (and DOD) as official policy now that the cloth-headed-dummy is in charge. The left turns everything it touches into excrement, it’s a feature.
“http://cdrsalamander.blogspot.com/
Thursday, February 18, 2021
Diversity Thursday
I’ve decided to change the topic of this week’s DivThu. If you’re here for the farcical Navy’s “Task Force One Navy”, well, come back next week.
This is worse and more important. …..”
Not a long blog post but a very serious problem.
It’s a tough sell for anyone with intelligence, independent thinking skills, common sense and ordinary “outside the liberal bubble” life experiences but there’s a sizable group trying to demonize 70 million folks who include you and me.
It’s quite a project.
Cornhead,
Could be worse. One of my alma maters is DePaul University.
Vincentian/Jesuit, tomayto/tomahto.
Maybe it was a false impression generated by cherry-pick media coverage, but I seem to recall associates at white shoe firms ca. 2004 were knocking each other over to do pro bono work for Gitmo detainees.
I find it sadly ironic that the lawyer still thinks that “fine people” reside at the org. that canceled his access to the civil rights email list. Fine people don’t descend into banana republic territory.
“The goal of leftists, now that they are in full control of the Leninist “commanding heights” of business, culture, media, politics, and technology is to crush any and all dissent “by any means necessary.” j e
The more they try “to crush any and all dissent “by any means necessary.” the faster their day of reckoning will arrive.
“Those the gods would destroy, they first make mad” (i.e. lose touch with reason)
Cornhead,
Ideological fanaticism admits to no persuasion. You are challenging their dogma, their ‘religious’ tenants.
“They academy is lost. It has been for quite some time.” neo
Yes and there is no alternative to the necessity of its dissolution.
om,
I agree that the seriousness of the problem is impossible to overstate. That said, I’m appalled that Cmdr Salamander’s response is to shake his finger while saying “shame”. These people have no shame. They are incapable of it. You might as well shake your finger at a rabid dog hoping to shame it into reasoned behavior.
JimNorCal,
That’s a project doomed to failure and with unimagined consequences for the demonizers.
Art+Deco,
I have the same recollection. I’m also confident that those they sought to assist in escaping appropriate consequence have an appropriate reward in mind for them. One involving a recently sharpened sword.
“A chilling book…”
And a chilling reality:
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/exceptionally-sad-day-illinois
I believe that even in the McCarthy era, it was understood that lawyers had a right and duty to represent accused people, anyway, I’ve never heard of the kind of intimidation now being directed against lawyers who represent Deplorables.
Under the Third Reich, German defendants accused of crimes against the regime were at least sometimes allowed lawyers…but these lawyers knew they better not try to hard to justify the accused.
@Cornhead:
It must be very hard to take indeed. It seems to have happened so fast, but I wonder if you could take a long hard look back down memory lane to your student days and the faculty and see the seeds of it back then? Or did the rot post-date your time as a student?
Asking because one can’t help suspecting that the seeds of heresy and betrayal always lie dormant or sprouting amongst the Clerisy in every age. Or use cell mutations and apoptosis as the analogy. In our very late stage civilizational decadence we have lost the ability to weed the garden or get rid of errant cells depending preferred analogy.
@David+Foster:
As I understand it (very limited reading) the Nazis preferred extra-legal means carried out under parallel legal system(s). E.g. they were perfectly happy to see a defendant have his day in the regular legacy justice system and be acquitted by the most scrupulous of Judges with the assistance of the most Ciceronian of advocates.. But when said freed defendant walked out the door, he could be arrested by the Gestapo or other organs and hied off to a Concentration Camp or worse — and once that happened, there was nothing the courts could do.
Similarly with the Stauffenberg Plot of 1944, great emphasis was put on the Heer holding courts of honour to strip participating officers of their commissions so they would not be subject to the military justice code. Once this happened, it was off to the Gestapo Cellars.
The CCP has a parallel internal justice system. The general Chinese court system is bad enough, but the special treatment meted out to anyone under party discipline who raises the Ire of Pooh is another story again. BTW, this is why from time to time there will be news about a Chinese Billionaire Tycoon seeing the light and begging to join the Party and being accepted. Reality is that they are ordered to join so that the parallel organs have jurisdiction over them too. It’s a shot across the bow saying ‘You can get big, but don’t get too big ideas, Bucko!’.
Jack Ma being case in point. He’s more or less dropped off the radar since late last year..
Could never happen in the US, right?
How about Title IX? And the giant mountain of administrative law and associated tribunals?
Zaphod…in the case of the German White Rose student resistance group, the students were tried by a ‘People’s Court’, so obviously they had no change of a fair trial…they did, however, have a lawyer. He had no time to prepare, and probably wouldnt’ have dared to make a good case if he had the chance.
@David+Foster:
Apparently there were cases of Volksgericht Kangaroo Court acquittals where the newly-freed defendant was picked up on the courthouse steps and hustled off to a Concentration Camp. How Much Can a Koala Bear? (<— Anyone having heard Monty Python’s Philosopher’s Song sketch will know not to expect too much great thought from Down Under. Although their school had Heidegger pegged.)
White Rose group were incredibly brave and deserving of utmost respect. They also died far too soon due to amateurish in the extreme tradecraft; a lesson for anyone thinking of following in their footsteps in the years to come.
In show trials you cannot have representation. What if they had to justify their charges like the House Impeachment Managers. HORRORS!!!!!!
Cornhead – on my alma mater sport fan board (Bucknuts – Ohio State) the ugly words from posters on Rush Limbaugh’s death was saddening to me. I guarantee most of them were born in the 80’s and 90’s or when parents put “Baby on Board” stickers in their car windows.
I was not silent and I pushed back. Nobody responded directly to my post. I shamed them on their words by putting their icons on trial using the same standards they used against Trump. Lots of up votes though. in short I put them on trial and they didn’t want to go there.
“White Rose group were incredibly brave and deserving of utmost respect. They also died far too soon due to amateurish in the extreme tradecraft; a lesson for anyone thinking of following in their footsteps in the years to come.” – Zaphod
There are a lot of stories of the REAL “Resistance” from World War II that need to be reviewed again. There were many mistakes made, but that any attempts were dared at all is amazing & inspiring.
Sadly, none of them succeeded.
That does not detract from the honor due the effort.
For every lawyer victimized by the Left (Schoen and Van der Veen), 3 Senators have been censured by the Right.
Looks like the math is trending in the correct direction.
https://justthenews.com/government/congress/republican-senators-receive-quick-and-decisive-backlash-over-voting-trump
“Maine Sen. Susan Collins is the only one of the seven GOP defectors to escape rebuke – for now.”
I have frequently read essays from progressives, over the last 30 years, that the “adversarial” justice system results only in competing distortions of the truth, and that instead there should be a European-style system where the government impartially investigates what happens and determines what is true and then dispassionately and objectively determines what the fairest outcome should be.
What could possibly go wrong?
There’s plenty wrong with justice as America does it but we as a people have not sinned so egregiously as to deserve that in its place.