It should come as no surprise that authorities are having trouble finding any evidence that Officer Sicknick’s death was caused by rioters
On January 26 I wrote a post titled “Deadly riots” that explored the cause of death of the five people whose deaths have been claimed to have been caused by the January 6th riots and/or rioters. One was Capitol Police Officer Sicknick, and I concluded, based on all the information I could find at that time, that we have no idea whether he was actually injured by rioters, whether or how those injuries might have caused his death, or what his actual cause of death might have been. I based that conclusion on information available in the MSM and from official reports as well as statements from his family.
I updated that information on February 1 with this post that added that early reports in the MSM had been that he died of a stroke. These reports seem to have fallen by the wayside but have never been retracted; they merely were replaced with assertions that he’d been hit in the head by a fire extinguisher hurled by a rioter or rioters, and had died of this injury. You can find the details at the link.
Now I see this CNN article appearing on February 2, which is headlined, “Investigators struggle to build murder case in death of US Capitol Police officer Brian Sicknick.” What is the struggle about, and what is the case for murder so far? Why, it’s about finding no evidence at all that Sicknick sustained any injury at the hands of rioters [emphasis mine]:
Investigators are struggling to build a federal murder case regarding fallen US Capitol Police officer Brian Sicknick, vexed by a lack of evidence that could prove someone caused his death as he defended the Capitol during last month’s insurrection.
Authorities have reviewed video and photographs that show Sicknick engaging with rioters amid the siege but have yet to identify a moment in which he suffered his fatal injuries, law enforcement officials familiar with the matter said.
Note how cleverly this is written. The reader might be forgiven for thinking that we know for a fact that there were such injuries, we know what they were, and all that’s missing is photographic evidence.
More:
To date, little information has been shared publicly about the circumstances of the death of the 13-year veteran of the police force, including any findings from an autopsy that was conducted by DC’s medical examiner.
That’s exactly one of the things that caught my attention, too. It seems to me that information should have been released. What’s more, it seems to me that so-called reporters should have been clamoring for it. But no.
Furthermore:
In a statement the day after the insurrection, Capitol Police said that Sicknick had been “injured while physically engaging with protesters” and collapsed as a result of his injuries sometime after returning to his office. He died the next day in a local hospital.
As I wrote in my earliest post:
The way [the Capitol Police statement is] written you simply cannot tell what happened, except that some injury to the officer seems to have occurred while the riot was ongoing and he was engaging with protestors. It doesn’t say his injury was sustained at anyone’s hands, it does not say what the injury was, it does not say how long it was between the injury and his death, it does not say why his injury did not cause him to go to the hospital and why he just went back to his division office, and it does not mention a fire extinguisher. It also does not say on what basis the Capitol Police concluded he died of that injury or injuries, as opposed to some other cause such as a heart attack…
In its February 2 article, CNN goes on to add some surprising admissions – surprising considering this is CNN, that is, not surprising to anyone following the case closely or reading this blog [emphasis mine]:
In Sicknick’s case, it’s still not known publicly what caused him to collapse the night of the insurrection. Findings from a medical examiner’s review have not yet been released and authorities have not made any announcements about that ongoing process.
According to one law enforcement official, medical examiners did not find signs that the officer sustained any blunt force trauma, so investigators believe that early reports that he was fatally struck by a fire extinguisher are not true.
One possibility being considered by investigators is that Sicknick became ill after interacting with a chemical irritant like pepper spray or bear spray that was deployed in the crowd. But investigators reviewing video of the officer’s time around the Capitol haven’t been able to confirm that in tape that has been recovered so far, the official said.
The case could also be complicated if Sicknick had a preexisting medical condition. It could not be learned if he did.
Byron York has also touched on some of the dogs that haven’t barked concerning January 6 in his Washington Examiner piece from yesterday, in which he lists nine question s he has submitted to Capitol Police (complete with follow up calls) that have gone completely unanswered. He points out that these are standard questions with answers that are usually released even at the start of investigations, and so the failure to answer is unusual. Although York’s questions are different from the questions I asked in my post of January 19 entitled “How little we know about what actually happened on January 6,” they are related and the idea behind the article is similar. It turns out that although two and a half weeks have passed since my piece we still know next to nothing.
Here are York’s unanswered questions:
How many Capitol Police officers were injured in the riot?
What were their injuries? What is their condition now?
Did Capitol Police confiscate any firearms from rioters? If so, how many and what types?
What is the status of the investigation into the killing of Officer Sicknick?
Is there an autopsy report for Officer Sicknick? If so, will it be released to the public, or will its key findings be released to the public?
What is the status of the investigation into the shooting of Ashli Babbitt? Has it been ruled a justifiable shooting?
Who was the officer who shot Ms. Babbitt?
Did any other officers discharge firearms during the rioting? If so, under what circumstances?
Did any rioters discharge any firearms during the rioting? If so, under what circumstances?
I think it’s very likely that the present administration, the Democrats, and the press are hoping that the narrative around Officer Sicknick’s death that they’ve already established in the minds of the vast majority of Americans – that right-wing Trump-supporting rioters killed him by bashing him in the head with a fire extinguisher – will continue to serve its purpose. In order to do this, it’s important to keep any information that might tend to undercut that narrative away from the public. If the Capitol Police are told to do that, I am assuming that they follow orders.
I’m not sure why CNN would have even written that article, however, unless some of its readers were clamoring for more information. But how many people will read the article compared to the many millions for whom the narrative has already been firmly set? Probably relatively few. And even that that group will probably find what’s written there to be ambiguous enough that their minds are unlikely to change.
Everything I wrote about the gaps in this case back in January and a few days ago could have been easily noticed by any reader or any reporter willing to do a little online research into Sicknick’s death. All the information was easily available in the public domain. All it took was curiosity and a little time – not even a ton of time. But the left and the MSM and the Democrats are counting on a lack of curiosity and effort. The narrative is serving its purpose, and it’s important to set it early and to repeat it often. Mission accomplished.
[NOTE: As I’ve said in previous pieces on this, of course it’s possible that we’ll find out that Officer Sicknick was in fact killed by rioters wielding a fire extinguisher. I doubt it, but that doesn’t mean I know. I also wonder if they’ll ever release any more information to clarify what caused his death.]
At this point, it is clear that it will never matter what, in fact, were the exact circumstances of the tragic death of this young officer; all that matters is that most Americans will believe, thanks to the power of false narratives promulgated by the MSM, that he was killed by evil Trump-supporting “insurrectionists” and “domestic terrorists”, i.e. the “enemy within”, which must now be fought with all the might of the state. The honoring of this unfortunate man in the Rotunda was pure political theater of the most effective and the most repulsive kind, as was the egregious psycho-drama recently enacted in Congress by AOC and others describing their “harrowing” experiences, which they barely survived after an event even worse than 9/11. Meanwhile, does anyone really care about Ashli Babbitt?
Maxine Waters has settled the question and decided that Trump should be charged with “premeditated Murder.” Case closed.
This story seems to be far more narrative-driven than fact-driven. I suspect random narratives will be invented and added to the story, whether or not there’s any factual basis to believe them. And they’ll be halfway around the world before the truth gets its boots on.
In the case of a bullet in the head or a broken skull, one rarely looks for pre-existing conditions as a possible contributor.
To me this screams no one has any idea how he died.
Well it took a while for George Floyd’s confounding comorbidities (unusual non-prescription medications) and heart disease to come to “light.” So in the case of Brian Sicknick it may also take a while too; you want to buy a bridge in Brooklyn I’ve heard.
OTOH it is a well known fact that the officer (aka unknown executioner) feared for his life and was justified in his termination of Ashli Babbitt, RIP. (not to all except “unknown executioner”).
om:
By the way, George Floyd died on May 25 and his autopsy was publicly released June 1.
Democrats/ Leftists are quick with the narrative but actual facts to back that narrative never seem to get out.
Said here before day or two after the Jan 6 fiasco that became the Battle of Capital Hill heard on radio news it was a brain aneurysm, no idea what that report came from but suspect family as it also had a message they didn’t want it made into a political front.
Seb Gorka said this week Officer Sticknick was a full Trump supporter with lots of Trump things on his media pages.
This episode cries for a spinning theatrical moment.
On the floor of the Senate, Republicans need to hit each other with fire extinguishers, collapse, and then beg Capitol police to keep it quiet.
Alas for the left it’s not like an election where you can generate Magic Ballots
Not to be argumentative with Frederick, who makes an interesting point; ME’s in fact do look for confounding comorbidities with broken skulls, if circumstances warrant it. One of my wife and I’s more interesting COVID lock down time wasters was watching “Dr. G: Medical Examiner” (2004). (No actual corpse or body parts shown!)
There were a number of instances of skull fractures where the brain was removed and there were no signs of hemorrhage. Then an ME must move on and look for other CODs.
Predictably, the most common of the significant comorbidities were heart ailments. Stress, or shocks, or cocaine usage combined with heart problems often resulted in death.
The fact that we have no ME report is very disgusting. And typical. Also seemingly typical is the fact that family members have absolutely nothing to say to the media. Have they been informed about the autopsy?
I’m going to wager that officials are leaking to state media because there will be no indictments, and there will be no indictment because there’s no evidence he suffered any blunt force trauma ergo no one to indict. The article indicates the leakers who spoke to them pass on that neither the autopsy nor a survey of the security cameras in whose field of vision he passed generated evidence of blunt force trauma. So, now they’re supposedly working on a theory that he had an eccentric reaction to pepper spray or bear spray (and he did indicate to his family in a text that he’d been hit with pepper spray).
Note, he collapsed after the melee was over and was sent to the hospital hospital where he was treated for a blood clot in his brain.
Here’s something to ponder: https://www.cdc.gov/heartdisease/atrial_fibrillation.htm
The lack of reporting on any details of the riot, with Neo’s questions and Byron York’s, is like the dog that didn’t bark in the Sherlock Holmes story. Facts, if reported, would likely not support the narrative of an “insurrection” instead of a disorderly incursion by only two or three hundred people, with another few hundred just wandering around inside doing nothing much.
Note that the Capitol Police commander resigned, and two officers have committed suicide. Very sad; indicative, perhaps, of knowledge that this should never have gotten out of hand as it did.
Kate:
Do we have any information on why two officers committed suicide after the Jan. 6 riot?
That’s very odd. I can’t think of any riots which involved LEO suicide afterward.
Yes, I assume the facts don’t back the “insurrection” narrative, so they are sticking with the narrative and dark hints.
TommyJay:
Sicknick’s family have actually had quite a bit to say to the media and the public. I quoted them in this previous post. More can be found here.
neo:
It is amazing (not) that Brian Sicknick’s autopsy details are still unknown, but then there is no incriminating video of the “injury” that led to Brian Sicknick’s “murder” unlike the case George Floyd (which may be manslaughter, maybe not). Seven days versus never?
Minnesota is more open that Washington DC, that is truly astounding. I guess the Feds have a tighter strangle hold on information and a free rain for disinformation.
Do we have any information on why two officers committed suicide after the Jan. 6 riot?
AFAIK, there was only one officer who committed suicide. Why people commit suicide is commonly a mystery even to intimates.
Jan. 6th, 2021
Democrat controlled Deep State: 1 execution
“Domestic Terrorists”: 0
“Second police officer died by suicide following Capitol attack”
https://www.politico.com/news/2021/01/27/second-officer-suicide-following-capitol-riot-463123
Reminds of the Bond/Goldfinger maxim:
Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. Three times is enemy action.
To be sure the motive for suicide is often mysterious. Nonetheless suicide is rare, and two suicides in a small population after a particular, violent (and may I say also mysterious) event, is quite odd. IMO it does raise questions.
Rather like the Covid virus emerging within a short distance of China’s only Bio-Safety Level 4 lab.
(which may be manslaughter, maybe not)
Fentanyl was found in George Floyd’s femoral blood at a concentration of 11 nanograms per cc. That’s a middling value for an overdose death. His trachea was uninjured by the mode of restraint Ofc. Chauvin used (which is incorporated into police training in Minneapolis). He was on the pavement because he proved unmanageable when they attempted to put him in the squad car. The officers were awaiting the arrival of the ambulance they’d called when he died. If the officers had missed him and he’d gotten away, he’d have expired in short order. You only get to ‘manslaughter’ because the coroner arbitrarily wrote ‘homicide’ at the bottom of the report.
Note, in the Freddie Gray case, there was ample security camera video indicating that the officer driving the paddy wagon was operating it normally, there was an oral account from the passenger in the other compartment (who emerged uninjured) that Gray was knocking about in the cabin, and multiple officers made statements that they’d had to stop the van several times to admonish Gray to stay still and to adjust his position and restraints in the van. The only way he gets the injury he got is by standing up against instructions and toppling over backward into a metal protrusion which pierces his neck. The coroner rules this a ‘homicide’. It’s very disconcerting that this sort of thing can be extorted from medical examiners.
Art Deco; om:
By the way, when medical examiners use the term “homicide” it doesn’t mean what people think it does. Here’s some information on that. Pay particular attention to #16.
Homicide is not murder is not manslaughter. And then there are degrees too?
Not 🙂 things.
Thinking back to some of the Capitol National Guard photos, I can’t help thinking about the abysmal state of health and physical condition of most Americans these days.
Physical *and* Mental Health.
Times have been soft for so long that a good chunk of the population is medically getting by through compensation + medication (doctor prescribed and self-medications of various types legal and not…) and do not have any appreciable physiological or psychological reserves to draw on.
Things get kinetic and have to jog up some stairs… disruptions to medication supply… lack of access to emotional support animals (Jaysus Wept!) –> Decompensation Cascade.
Everyone is not an Adonis, astounding. More smoke.
CNN is following the MSM playbook when it comes to news that’s bad for Dems: first drag your feet and then dribble the story out in bits. By the time most people put the pieces together, it’s “not newsworthy anymore.”
@om:
So why do you think people involved in Jan 6 on both sides who weren’t shot in the head dropped dead or offed themselves? Demonic Possession? Alien Mind Rays?
Zaphod:
I’ve been to my share of demonstrations and read about more, but I’m somewhat baffled by how lethal Jan. 6 was. Seven people? Ashli, Suckenick, the two LEO suicides (within a couple weeks) and three other civilians.
The three civilians — one died of heart attack while talking on the phone, one died in a crush of people fighting through a police line, and the other seems to have died of a stroke.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/11/us/who-died-in-capitol-building-attack.html
Only two people died over the three-day concert at Woodstock with almost half-million people crammed together, almost all of them taking drugs and being somewhat crazy.
I was rather nonchalant about Jan. 6 when it was happening, because it didn’t occur to me so many people would die without the National Guard opening fire on the crowd or something.
It does strike me as odd.
I stand corrected Neo. I had a few different thoughts in my head. If I was a family member and I didn’t have a full explanation from the med. examiner I would be very upset and would be inclined to speak to the media about that.
If I did have a full explanation then that’s a bit more complicated. If the media was misrepresenting the facts, I think I’d want that cleared up. Unless I was being pressured not to.
By the way, when medical examiners use the term “homicide” it doesn’t mean what people think it does. Here’s some information on that. Pay particular attention to #16.
Sorry, not buying.
Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. Three times is enemy action.
Rubbish.
“In the aftermath” my foot. Let’s see his financials, let’s hear about his wife and his girlfriend, let’s hear about medical diagnoses of late. Let’s get a list of the psychotropics Dr. Quack prescribed him.
Zaphod:
Stick to weed, the harder drugs aren’t doing you any good.
As neo has pointed out it isn’t known what caused Officer Brian Sicknick’s death. The deaths of the other 3 people have not been impugned as anything related to violence/rioting. They were at the event.
You and Yammer can spin about alien mind rays and Demonic Possession. Poor little millie, beware of the brown people. All shock no awe.
The execution of Ashli Babbitt, RIP, is documented on videos.
Correction: huxley reports that one of the three people who died (not Babbitt nor Sicknick) at the event was physically interacting with the authorities (mostly peacefully protesting).
No demonic possession or alien mind rays. People die all the time, even those who look like an Adonis from Hong Kong?
Art Deco:
I have no idea what you mean by “not buying.”
Do you mean that you think the site is incorrect?
Do you mean that you think that the way medical examiners use the word is absurd, senseless, or misleading?
Do you mean that if you were in charge, you wouldn’t use it that way?
Do you mean that you don’t think it matters?
Do you mean that you don’t think that Floyd’s death was related at all to the way Chauvin acted?
Do you mean something else?
I’ve written at length on the subject of Floyd’s death. I think he died of a Fentanyl overdose. But I also think that the site I linked does describe how medical examiners use the word “homicide,” which they define differently than most people imagine from its use in the more usual legal context, and I think the difference confuses and misleads people.
huxley:
Different population in the two events. The group at Woodstock was very young. I’m not sure that’s enough to account for the difference, but it is a significant difference I think.
I agree that the suicides are especially odd.
neo:
Maybe Woodstock isn’t a great comparison. I just haven’t heard of many crowds where over the course of a few hours three people dropped dead somehow and another got killed in a crush, plus Ashlii’s killing and the LEO suicides.
An odd event. If one wished to go JFK assassination on it, there’s promising material. If it were the Dems’ ox being gored, we would be hearing non-stop conspiracy talk.
Art Deco:
I’m not buying it! Rubbish! Hunky-Dory!
Spengler was right!
huxley – what is most likely is that other large-crowd events did have contemporaneous medical fatalities, accidents, and subsequent suicides – but the media didn’t publicize them because they weren’t trying to demonize half of the American voting population.
AesopFan:
Sorta sounds reasonable, but do a couple people really die at most large concerts or sports events?
AesopFan does have a point.
What we need to do is hold a Very Large Air Supply type concert and count the bodies hauled out. There would be more than for a (say) Miley Cyrus concert.
But seriously, the average 40 year old Dirt People Denizen today (let alone real oldies) in the West is in pretty poor shape. Up stress levels in a big crowd and add some running and jumping and crushing together and the odds of people dropping dead has to go up a bit.
We’re not good at intuitively grasping most probabilities; cf. Birthday Problem and present Covid-19 Great Fear.
People drop dead in marathons from time to time, Well trained experienced runners. You pay the entry fee, put on your number, the gun goes off and you take the chance. Stuff happens. Something eventually is going to get you.
How many people were at the Capitol? Those three deaths must have been Men In Black doing some “wet work?” Or you can believe in alien mind control, demonic possession, QAmomg. ZAlong, Evil Brown People, whatever. You be you,
om:
I figure it was one of those sinister coves with a trick umbrella which fires a stealthy poison pellet.
According to RedState, the family believes he died of a stroke, based upon what the hospital told them. “ The police union chief and his family have indicated that they believe he died of a stroke, presumably because of what the hospital told them. But that hasn’t even been announced as the public cause of death.”
https://redstate.com/nick-arama/2021/02/05/cnn-finally-acknowledges-the-story-media-spread-about-officer-sicknicks-cause-of-death-isnt-true-n322837
That first line links to a ProPublica piece from January 8th.
https://www.propublica.org/article/officer-brian-sicknick-capitol
This cites “separate interviews with family” members but gives no further details.
Sad.
But Neo links to this story and statement with the best details, still:
https://www.khou.com/article/news/national/us-capitol-police-officer-dies-stroke-riots/285-0d4f3e9c-63be-4f5b-a8f8-208dbd33a85f
neo,
Re #16: “Deaths due to positional restraint induced by law enforcement personnel or to choke holds or other measures to subdue may be classified as Homicide.”
Positional restraints and choke holds, when lawfully employed are invariably the result of resisting arrest. Cops are authorized to use whatever degree of force is needed to subdue someone resisting arrest. The act of resisting arrest carries with it the risk of suffering inordinate harm.
The roman Senator Cicero rightly asked, “What can be done against force without force?”
@Geoffrey Britain:
Nailed it. (As Fulvia was heard to remark to the late Cicero’s tongue.)
Positional restraints and choke holds, when lawfully employed are invariably the result of resisting arrest. Cops are authorized to use whatever degree of force is needed to subdue someone resisting arrest. The act of resisting arrest carries with it the risk of suffering inordinate harm.
Floyd was lying on his side on the pavement. His trachea was not compressed. The ‘I can’t breathe’ complaint began not when he was lying on his side, but when they attempted to seat him upright in the squad car.
The powers that be will stick with the Approved Narrative until the impeachment is over. Only then will we get any details about what really happened to this man, and by then most everyone will have moved on.
huxley:
Aha! That’s the real reason that Antifa carry black umbrella’s, not to evade being filmed! Their umbrella technology has evolved now; you didn’t even see them being used at the Capitol (HT: QAmong, ZAlong, and Evil Brown People). Keep it “hush hush” as they used to say. 🙂
This is easily understood, especially in light of your recent post about propaganda in the media and how to see through it.
IF the autopsy showed Sicnick died from head trauma he received from a supposed Trump supporter hitting him with a fire extinguisher, it would have been released IMMEDIATELY.
However, if he died of an existing medical condition exacerbated by the exertion of that day, considering the typical day for a Capitol Police officer, it would never see the light of day. Much like we’re seeing right now.
The easy conclusion is, there is no way to tie his death, via the autopsy, to anyone or anything related to the “iNsUrReCtIoN” on 1/6 because, in fact, he died of an existing medical condition.
A comparison between 1/6 and Woodstock is nonsense. That was 50 years ago and the vast majority of the attendees were young, probably exclusively under the age of 30. 7800 people die in the US every single day. The notion that it is somehow odd that 3 of them happened to have been at the Capitol on 1/6 seems misplaced.
Beyond which, concluding that somehow the suicide of two capitol police officers MUST be connected to 1/6 without a single piece of evidence actually connecting the two is even more nonsensical. That’s what the Democrat media PR machine wants. It should be pretty clear to a clear thinking individual that what they want you to believe is almost assuredly NOT the truth.
I also see Neo confusing the release of the official George Floyd autopsy with the release of the toxicology report that was released quite a bit later than June 1, and to no media coverage whatsoever outside conservative media.
I’d also add that while definition #16 “explains” why you might call a death like Floyd’s “homicide” to prevent people from thinking they’re trying to “cover it up” without that designation, it seems disingenuous in the extreme.
I’d call that an “excuse” more than a reason. And considering the left LOVES to redefine words, their excuse to use a common term for political purposes doesn’t excuse it or explain it all. In fact, considering the damage that was done, and that absent even a single piece of evidence supporting police misconduct, that BLM “protesters” would riot in a heartbeat, you could argue that using a politically charged word like “homicide” ought to be avoided, not encouraged.
Using a word like that to avoid the “perception” of wrong doing is sophistry at its best.
I have previously posted on the “clot—>stroke” reported to the family by Sicknick’s in-hospital docs after, or shortly before his death. The Sicknick family did not keep that a secret! I will not repeat myself, though I thank ArtDeco for posting a link to “atrial fibrillation” way above this one, consistent with my explanation.
I regret Neo has not taken any notice of my medical comment or explanation. She still maintains, with some doubt, that “it’s possible that we’ll find out that Officer Sicknick was in fact killed by rioters wielding a fire extinguisher.”
The fire extinguisher nonsense is getting really absurd. On some site I today read that according to some video the extinguisher hit a helmeted cop on helmet, bounced to hit an unhelmeted cop on the head, then struck another helmeted cop on his helmet. Apparently this extinguisher was immune to the immutable force of gravity. Sicknick could not be identified as one of these cops, though. Preposterous.
The USA has fallen, apparently voluntarily, into the same immoral hole as the Chinese Communist Party and China.
We will be told what we may think, and what thoughts are taboo.
Cicero:
I have actually agreed with your analysis, as I’ve pointed out in another thread. The fact that I said it is POSSIBLE that we might find out otherwise but that I doubt it, is just a reference to the fact that we are acting on unofficial reports and have never gotten an autopsy or an official medical report.
I have also made it crystal clear in several threads that there is no evidence whatsoever that Sicknick was hit on the head with a fire extinguisher. Period. My point with the caveat is that such evidence could emerge. I have also made it clear that I do not think it will.
deadrody:
That sort of use of the word “homicide” in medical examiner reports has been going on for quite some time and was not just started in the Floyd case. I don’t know its exact history, but I believe it has outlived any usefulness it ever had except to the left.
deadrody:
There was toxicology data on fentanyl, etc., in the autopsy report. See this:
Unfortunately the link to the actual report is now dead. But the story I just linked to is dated June 4.
Neo @1:54pm: give me the link, or post your response to my “clot” comment. I cannot read everything you write, regrettably.
“Sorta sounds reasonable, but do a couple people really die at most large concerts or sports events?” – huxley
That was hard to research on the internet, but event managers are warned to act as if they will.
http://www.leoisaac.com/evt/spect005.htm
Most of the stories I could find dealt with either massive tragedies (fires most often) or trampling-in-the-rush (concerts most often).
Even so, the body-count January 6 (whether you include the suicides or not) is on the very low end.
Hardly the domestic terrorist threat to the foundations of democracy that is being alleged.
Not even a very riotous riot.
https://matadornetwork.com/nights/10-deadliest-concert-disasters-of-the-last-50-years/
Numbers 10, a concert in Jakarta, had 4 trampling deaths; number 9, the notorious Altamont, had “4 deaths – the murder, a hit and run accident that killed two, and a drowning;” and number 8, a festival in Denmark, had 9 by trampling.
Numbers 7-5 had more concert-venue trampling deaths (11, 11, 21 respectively).
After that they fatalities jumped to 100 and over because of club-venue fires.
How likely was it that someone in the very-large crowd would become ill or die of a “normal” cause?
Pretty likely – what’s odd is that more people in huge masses don’t.
The top four causes of death are all medical/health issues; please note number 5.
https://injuryfacts.nsc.org/all-injuries/preventable-death-overview/odds-of-dying/
Heart disease 1 in 6
Cancer 1 in 7
All preventable causes of death 1 in 25
Chronic lower respiratory disease 1 in 26
Suicide 1 in 86
This one changes up the order and adds some causes before getting to suicide at Number 10, but they are substantially the same sort of thing (no odds given).
https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/282929
Heart disease
Cancer
Unintentional injuries
Chronic lower respiratory disease
Stroke and cerebrovascular diseases
Alzheimer’s disease
Diabetes
Influenza and pneumonia
Kidney disease
Suicide
And that’s my class report for today.