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Senator Josh Hawley steps up to challenge the Electoral College certification — 22 Comments

  1. Hawley is future presidential material and the left really hate him. He’s got a lot of Ted Cruz with a more likable personality.

  2. For a time after his election to the U.S. Senate, the editorials of the Wall Street Journal were consistently snide and insulting towards Sen. Josh Hawley. Now I really love the guy.

    Here is an interesting piece stating that the Congress should not attempt to block the electors. He thinks the only hope is for VP Pence to do it instead. Well, that ain’t happenin’ IMO.

  3. @LB100, well when did he stop clerking for Roberts? Does it happen to coincide with the departure of the CJ’s backbone? Interesting…..

    @TommyJay, I agree that Mike Pence will unfortunately do nothing with his position as head of the Senate to call the elector results into question or expose them to scrutiny. Like many of those with Inside-the-Beltway tenure, the System provides to those who defend the System, and Pence is definitely a creature of the System.

  4. Hats off and sincere thanks to individuals like Hawley, Louis Gohmert, Ted Cruz, and others who have shown the resolve, the strength of character and courage to seek confrontation with something they think is wrong.

  5. Black NBA players: they’ve got slave Uyghurs picking cotton.
    Cotton.
    That’s right, cotton.
    Feeling any shame for supporting China?

  6. JimNorCal.
    Surely you jest.

    Fortunately, about half a mile from the local Walmart is Meijer, a midwest version of a big box store. Walmart’s day-old bakery stuff is, according to my wife, pretty good.
    But, due to their tight fistedness with various producers’ contracts, the produce guys go there last. So you want your produce at Meijer, day-old pastry at Walmart.

    That said, Walmart has a string of services–optometry, banking, so forth–which out in the boonies are otherwise hard to come by.

    Point is, however, I have a choice and it doesn’t cost me much, if at all, to go to Meijer. Plus I get a dime off on the gas.

  7. The linked to article about says it all–

    https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2020/12/hey_gop_this_is_your_do_or_die_moment.html

    If Republicans don’t put up a massive, “last hill to die on” fight, and manage to have the fraudulent election put right and President Trump reelected, that’s it for conservatives and for the Republican Party.

    Because, if with the aid and obvious acquiesence of Republicans, state legislatures, and a controversy avoiding Supreme Court, the Democrats manage to get away with this massive and glaringly obvious election fraud, then–from now on–the fix will be in, and every aspect of our political system will be so well rigged by the Democrats/the Left that no real conservative President, or a slate of any other conservative lawmakers, will ever be able to be elected again–as far into the future as the mind can project

    We have just this one final chance.

  8. Democrats in Congress do this in every Presidential election where a Republican wins, but it is mysteriously now scandalous and norm-breaking.

  9. What astonishes me is how tightly the MSM has apparently been able to contain or to dismiss the great number of stories about all of the Democrat cheating, most prominently and effectively in at least six states–organized and massive cheating on such a gigantic scale that it has been able to–very brazenly and quite often right out in the open–switch the vote in each one of these states from an actual overwhelming one for Trump to a slim and phony margin of victory for Biden–and apparently hardly any people are aware of what’s happened.

    I have to believe that that dearth of information is what’s behind the apparent lack of any real groundswell of opposition–and strong and almost universal opposition– to this massive theft of this election coming from ordinary citizens.

    For, if the answer isn’t suppression of the news of this theft by the MSM that, it seems to me, leaves one with the conclusion that our citizens probably are aware on some level of what has taken place, but just really don’t care.

    Moreover, if most of the Congressional Republicans don’t put up a credible fight against this Democrat stealing of the 2020 Presidential election, I can see a tidal wave of former Republicans leaving the current Republican party to form a new one; a new Conservative Party, one that actually and forcefully represents their needs, issues, and concerns.

    Of course, if this theft of the election stands, that will make the organization of, and the ability to effect policy and legislation of such a new Conservative Party much, much more difficult in a political system that is totally dominated by and rigged in favor of the Democrats.

  10. Astonishing to me, as well is—

    First, the silence emanating from, and the lack of protests and effective actions in defense of our system of voting coming from the vast majority of the members of Congress, with just a small handful coming from Republican members of Congress.

    Next, my astonishment at the unwillingness of the U.S. Supreme Court to take up some case–any case–as a vehicle to mount a fierce and robust defense of our voting system but, instead, the Justices hiding behind issues of “standing,” and letting that primary guarantor of each citizen’s ability to elect their representatives and the President and, thus, to give direction to the government in our Republic, be eliminated, as the members fo the Supreme Court decide to ignore the growing mountain of all types of evidence concretely testifying to our voting system’s obvious subversion and immanent destruction.

  11. Mike K,

    If Biden’s puppet masters get him into the WH, upon what basis do you imagine that any candidate other than a democrat will have any chance whatsoever of being elected to the Presidency in 2024?

    As for Hawley, the long knives have already started to emerge. Don’t think for a minute that expulsion from Congress is off the table for ‘troublemakers’… in the swamp formerly known as Congress.

    “Senator Jeanne Shaheen (D-NH) said Thursday on MSNBC’s “Andrea Mitchell Reports” that her colleague Sen. Josh Hawley (R-MO) was bordering on “sedition or treason” by announcing he will object to the certification of President-elect Joe Biden’s electoral college win in the Senate.”
    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/12/31/dem-sen-shaheen-josh-hawley-bordering-on-sedition-or-treason/

  12. “the long knives have already started to emerge. Don’t think for a minute that expulsion from Congress is off the table for ‘troublemakers’… in the swamp formerly known as Congress.” – Geoffrey

    “Democrats in Congress do this in every Presidential election where a Republican wins, but it is mysteriously now scandalous and norm-breaking.
    It happens in the House all the time.” – Frederick

    Pelosi drew some speculation as to whether or not she would seat the GOP candidate with the 6-vote win in Iowa, or the Democrat loser.
    Apparently, she was convinced that the optics of booting the winner would be bad, but she is holding her options open.

    https://www.newsbreak.com/news/2135880347353/pelosi-to-seat-republican-in-contested-iowa-race

    Speaker Nancy Pelosi confirmed Wednesday that she plans to seat the GOP winner of a contested race in Iowa on Jan. 3, despite a pending challenge from the Democratic contender in the razor-thin election.

    Her decision avoids a brazen partisan showdown to kick off the 117th Congress, but it remains unclear if the GOP winner, Mariannette Miller-Meeks, will keep that seat for the entire two-year term, as Democrat Rita Hart continues to contest her six-vote loss, claiming not all legal ballots were properly counted.

    In a controversial move, Hart has bypassed the Iowa courts and made her appeal contesting the results directly to the House. A House investigation is expected to take several months to make a recommendation on the true winner and then Congress can vote on who should hold the seat.

    The fate of Iowa’s second district — and who would be seated when Congress meets to begin the 117th Congress on Sunday — has remained an open question as lawmakers and campaign officials of both parties speculated what Pelosi might do. House Democrats could have also chosen to leave the seat open until the House panel completes its review.

    But many Democrats were privately worried about the optics of not seating the certified winner of the seat as they continue to sharply criticize President Donald Trump’s efforts to overturn the presidential election results, despite Joe Biden’s overwhelming victory.

    Refusing to seat Miller-Meeks, the certified winner of an election, would be extremely rare. It has only happened three times since 1933, according to congressional records.

    Miller-Meeks was declared the winner by Iowa’s election officials in late November, but Hart has not conceded and is now asking the House Administration Committee to scrutinize the results and possibly overturn the state’s decision.

    Any member of the House could object to Miller-Meeks being sworn in with the rest of the freshmen class on Jan. 3, but senior aides predicted that would be unlikely to happen after Pelosi made the decision to seat her.

  13. WRT the “Do or die” post by Snow on Pine on December 31, 2020 at 7:27

    The e-GOP has also benefitted from electoral fraud (on ES&S machines). I believe that’s a major reason they aren’t helping.

    Right now, as we speak, there is a minor uproar over Mitch McConnell’s alleged electoral fraud for his Senate race. See https://www.rawstory.com/2020/12/why-the-numbers-behind-mitch-mcconnells-re-election-dont-add-up

    Left-of-center activists like Brad Friedman and Jennifer Cohn (+many others) have been writing about software-assisted electoral fraud for 20 years in pubs like NYT, HuffPo, The Guardian, CNN, HBO, PBS, and Mother Jones. See bradblog.com and jennycohn1.medium.com. I recommend you read Cohn’s Dec 21st article on ES&S over on medium.com for a good summary.

    Cyber security experts like Hursti and Halderman have built careers showing how insecure all these systems are. E.g. http://www.hbo.com/documentaries/kill-chain-the-cyber-war-on-americas-elections

    I have a large collection of other examples right up to Nov 3, 2020. Some of the content in the “Kraken” portfolio is just a recap of this past material (e.g., the 2010 letter from VoterAction to the EAC that now sits archived on the NIST website).

    But now, nearly all of those activists and experts have flipped 180 degrees and are insisting “Nothing to see here”. Some are even gloating with a “now it’s payback time” attitude. A few are bold enough to justify the fraud because they think they are getting rid of a Hitler.

    We’ve been living in a pretend Republic for the past 20 years. However, nothing on the scope and scale of the 2020 presidential election fraud has been detected before. That’s why the media and the tech oligarchs are so furiously gaslighting us.

    We have a singular moment to come together as a people and put an end to this 2-decade charade. Alas, we are now so polarized that it is no longer a possibility. So here were are, driving blindly off the edge of a cliff. IMO, Jan 6 will come and go without a resolution. A few brave legislators will make objections, but then that’s it. The pundit class will hurl more insults and condescension. The censoring class will clamp down even harder. We’re on track to loose GA senate seats, as well.

    Jan 6 is the final opportunity for the Federal government to fix this. After that, there is a cohort of armed and angry people with nothing left to loose who may take matters into their own hands. Who knows what that will look like? A few lone wolf attacks? Some assassinations? A few Ruby Ridges? Or perhaps something much larger, more organized, and more furious …

    The Republic is teetering into the abyss in an act of self-annihilation brought on by pandemic hysteria and lockdown and the accompanying economic ruin, endless riots and mayhem that go largely unpunished, critical race theory injected into every institution, fake news, weaponized government, an unpunished coup d’état, extreme polarization fueled by social media, cancel culture, and grand-scale TDS.

    Self-annihilation – here and now, in our time.

    Happy new year.

  14. As someone wrote today, we have discovered that we have been living in an elaborate con job, in our own version of “The Sting,”

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