Suitcase-gate in Fulton County
Some thoughts on the suitcases-of-ballots video, in no particular order.
(1) No, you don’t “debunk” a video like that by having the alleged perps (or their supervisors/managers/spokespeople) say things like, “We didn’t tell the observers to go home; they just went home on their own,” and “those aren’t suitcases; they are the receptacles in which we always store opened ballots prior to counting.”
The problem for the accused is that there are many affidavits that were filed prior to the discovery of the newly-acquired video and they dovetail very closely with what is revealed in the video. Those affidavits allege that the press and the observers were told to go home at a certain time because the counting was stopping for the evening because of a burst pipe. But there was no evidence of a burst pipe, and the video shows that the press and the observers did in fact leave more or less en masse at about the time the affidavits state they did.
(2) If you listen to the narrative by the witness in the video I posted yesterday – and which I will post again here at the end of this post – you will see that the people who left also included in their affidavits the fact that they returned a couple of hours later and discovered that a few workers had stayed behind counting, and in fact the surveillance video shows the observers’ returning at around the time they said. I repeat: these affidavits were filed before the video was discovered, and the videos support them.
(3) If you were going to add fake ballots or substitute fake ones for real ones, there’s no reason I’m aware of that you couldn’t put them in the proper receptacles. So whether the ballots under the table were in actual suitcases or in the proper receptacles seems somewhat irrelevant to me.
(4) It’s not as though the video shows other instances of ballots hidden under tables with cloths and then being dragged out for counting. Apparently it doesn’t, although I don’t know whether every single moment has been studied in great detail. Unless this is the usual protocol, it’s suspicious on the face of it. The narrator does say that the table had been placed there on the morning of election day.
(5) One of the many things that is suspicious not just about the video but about the entire night is that this was not the only place that evening where a stoppage and throwing out of observers occurred, followed by a continuation of the vote counting that resulted in a huge Biden tally. Something similar happened in at least three other large Democratic cities in key swing states where Trump was leading, and it happened at approximately the same time. Not only that, but such a thing has never happened before, to the best of my knowledge. So far, I don’t think any other videos from other cities have surfaced. I’m guessing that perhaps there is no video from the other venues, and that this video was not ordered taken by the election officials but by the arena itself as standard operating procedure there, and that the election workers were unaware of it. That’s just a guess, though; I hope we’ll find out more about that.
(6) There is no question in my mind that Democratic Party spokespeople, election officials in Georgia’s Fulton County, and the MSM will all be eager to say there’s nothing to see here and it has no meaning at all. There is literally nothing that would convince the anti-Trump-pro-Biden forces that fraud was committed by Democrats in this election, not even a confession. I am quite serious when I say that. They mean to win, and they mean to do it in any way possible.
More news here:
Kemp, a Republican, described the footage that was presented by President Donald Trump’s team at a Georgia State Legislature hearing Thursday as “concerning.” Earlier, he called on the secretary to conduct a signature audit in light of the video and allegations.
The signature audit is important, too, and I believe this is the first time Kemp has said it would be a good idea.
More:
…[S]tate Republican Party Chair David Shafer…wrote Thursday that the notion observers were there and watching is “untrue, as the video shows. Our position is unchanged. Ballots were counted unlawfully and in secret.”
“Even had state monitors been present, the law still requires that ballot counting be open to partisan monitors and the public. But state monitors were not present, as the @GaSecofState now acknowledges and the video shows,” Shafer wrote.
Another issue left unaddressed was why Fulton County officials said a pipe burst caused a two-hour delay to vote counting in a room where absentee ballots were tabulated at the State Farm Arena.
A local attorney who filed a records request about the burst pipe only received a brief text message exchange about the incident describing it as “highly exaggerated”…
And here’s the video again:
Ah, the pleasure of experiencing a Zapruder film…. A film that makes a total and complete mockery of “The Official Claims”.
Now this latest generation will know it.
Ruby Freeman has been identified as the culprit in various sources, but neither this piece of evidence nor any other is likely to have any effect. The Democrats are far too heavily invested in seemingly having won “by any means necessary” to have any concern whatsoever with the niceties of ethics or of proper procedure, while far too many members of the GOP, whether in Congress or in the state legislatures or in the media (including many at Fox) are craven, feckless and solely self-interested. Some have even argued that the Republicans deserve to lose in Georgia for their abject cowardice.
It’s over. Votes were counted, many illegal which flipped six states to Biden. But you can’t uncount them. If you’re not doing the counting, you lose, simple as that. Like the old adage goes, if you’re not cheating, you’re not trying.
You’ve got to hand it to the Democrats on their strategy and resourcefulness to pull off a heist of this magnitude. All the more brilliant is that they used minions like this Ruby Freeman whose behavior they knew would be beyond reproach due to her skin color. Who wants to be castigated as the vile racist who questions her behavior?
santan,
good luck with that legal standard.
people are not demanding to have the election throw out based on this evidence, all they wanted was a fair audit, and this evidence and anomalies (coincidentally all stoppages only happen in democrat controlled districts where trump was leading in a seemingly mathematically irreversible way and magically the leads were all erased next morning after a larger than usual ballot batch counts that were reportedly unsupervised and were favoring Biden in such margin that does not align with the rest of the country) were enough to warrant one. When you are putting all the stops with all your effort to stop this simple demand from being carried out that wouldn’t have possibly damage your chance of winning if you have done nothing funny it raises even more suspicions and make it harder people to accept the election was done fairly.
show us a footage depicting the ballot cases being put under the table after they were separated from the envelopes then. if the ballots were not brought from the outside and were put there under normal vote counting procedures and the surveillance cam was recording the whole evening uninterrupted then the time the cases were put underneath the table should have been recorded.
Fulton, we’re talking atlanta, where the last two mayors went away for corruption right, the election official gabriel sterling, was a commissioner in sandy springs who failed upwards, the machines were acquired by kemp who was then secretary of state, the vendor being jared thomas who was his campaign manager, before he went over to dominion, they in turn have some interesting ties to staple street capital, where former obama fcc chair, is on the board,
well that’s ok,
https://www.theepochtimes.com/firm-that-conducted-audit-of-georgia-voting-machines-has-long-history-with-dominion_3604466.html?utm_source=morningbrief&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=mb-2020-12-04
Ah, the pleasure of experiencing a Zapruder film…. A film that makes a total and complete mockery of “The Official Claims”.
The actual Zapruder film did nothing of the kind. Images from the film were public within days and the film itself was studied by the Warren Commission staff.
Art Deco:
I’m in total agreement: the Zapruder film was relied on by the officials and in fact is a pillar of the Oswald as lone assassin explanation of the JFK killing. One caveat, though, about the public at the time: the parts that showed the head shot were edited out even in the stills offered to the public, although the Warren Commission certainly saw the whole film.
I agree with santan which is why I’ve been ignoring all the fraud etc. The D’s executed a brilliant and well-planned strategy. It was like the blitzkrieg of the lowlands. We now have to get our troops off of Dunkirk, regroup, and decide how to meet this evil threat.
“There is literally nothing that would
convince[force] the anti-Trump-pro-Biden forces [to admit] that fraud was committed by Democrats in this election, not even a confession. I am quite serious when I say that.”They know, that we know, that a massive fraudulent overthrow of the election was committed by Democrats in an attempt to seize power. They are betting that our desire to preserve Constitutional governance will lead loyal Americans to shy away from physical confrontation. They control the media, the deep state and much of the justice system who are all complicit in their treasonous criminality and are relying upon deep seated corruption to enable their theft.
“They mean to win, and they mean to do it in any way possible.”
Yes, and the methods and actions they have employed, which are indisputably unconstitutional are by their own choice… a voluntary forfeiture of citizenship. As they have opted out of America’s social contract in a manner that precludes regaining the citizenship they have forfeited.
Upon release of incarceration, a convicted rapist who has served their time is still a rapist. Society’s consequence is met but what they did remains because the rape cannot be erased. No more than a murderer stops being a murderer because their victim is dead. The action that cannot be reversed makes permanent that action.
So, by their own actions, democrats who participated in the treasonous fraud are no longer Americans. Regardless of whether lawfully recognized, that is the reality they have created for themselves.
Our once fellow citizens have made of themselves our enemy who mean to do us the gravest of harm, for absent liberty, life is but slavery to those who rule the State.
Activist democrats and their leadership think that Biden’s inauguration would be the end of the right’s ability to resist their agenda. In their ideological blindness, they fail to grasp that in reality, it will be the end of the majority on the right playing by the rules because in a representative republic… disenfranchisement is “just another word for having nothing left [of true value] to lose”.
The actual Zapruder film did nothing of the kind [make a mockery of “The Official Claims.” Images from the film were public within days and the film itself was studied by the Warren Commission staff.
Art Deco, neo: The Zapruder Film was sufficiently problematic that it was also a pillar of most criticism of the Warren Report — and rightly so IMO. (Obviously the Warren Commission studied the film; no one doubts that.)
The so-called Magic Bullet and the backward headsnap were hard to believe. The Z-film placed constraints on the timing and ballistics which were difficult to overcome. The film itself wasn’t shown to the public until 1975.
It wasn’t until the 1990s with Posner’s “Case Closed” and the computer analysis of the shooting that I began to find adequate defense of the Lone Assassin scenario. Then Bugliosi’s “Reclaiming History” finished the job in 2007.
One may reach a correct conclusion with inadequate or incorrect reasoning.
Neo,
There is nothing that anyone could tell you and many Republicans to believe that there was not fraud. Once you are set on the fact that the election was rigged then even Republicans involved with the election in GA who voted for Trump could not convince you otherwise. It’s mob mentality and guilty until proven innocent for those working this election and that’s rather sad, really.
Especially because now there are threats of violence for people who worked the polls by people who have no idea what they are saying or how elections work. This is the dark side of America. It’s Kafkaesque. I can see why some Republicans refuse to vote in GA. If they think it is all rigged then it’s logical to think it will continue to be rigged.
Has Barr yet sent down a team of intimidating criminal lawyers and investigators to question Ruby Freeman et al while they are still nervous and haven’t straightened their stories?
huxley,
Yes, it took computer graphics by NOVA using the Z film to properly align JFK and J. Connelly to show the “Magic Bullet” actually traveled in a straight line.
I also would have thought that the large thruster like cloud of ejecta moving forward at high speed as seen in the Z film would evoke Newton’s laws.
The fix is in…
“Raffensperger Responds To Video — ‘Those were not suitcases, and it wasn’t fraud’…”
https://www.citizenfreepress.com/breaking/raffensperger-responds-to-video-those-were-not-suitcases-and-it-wasnt-fraud/
“Firm That Conducted ‘Audit’ of Georgia Voting Machines Has Long History With Dominion”,
https://www.theepochtimes.com/firm-that-conducted-audit-of-georgia-voting-machines-has-long-history-with-dominion_3604466.html?utm_source=morningbriefnoe&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=mb-2020-12-04
Montage,
Classic ‘projection’ tactic of the left, accuse the other side of that which you are solely guilty.
The amount of evidence is MASSIVE. It’s not possible for a fair minded observer to conclude otherwise. The evidence is far too diverse. Numerous eyewitnesses willing to sign affidavits to their accusations. Mathematical impossibilities. Severe violations of common sense. Every swing state closing down at nearly the same time after pushing out republican observers in total violation of state laws. Followed by miraculous found votes in which tens of thousands, even 100,000 votes for Biden and not one for Trump are recorded, all while republican voters are unable to see the counting of the miraculous votes. One county where ALL 900+ of the absentee military votes go for Biden.
Come on man!
LB100,
“Has Barr yet sent down a team of intimidating criminal lawyers and investigators to question Ruby Freeman et al while they are still nervous and haven’t straightened their stories?”
That’s a very interesting question. If not, it pretty much closes the case on where Barr’s true loyalties lie, does it not?
Montage – I was there in Detroit watching the big steal. There was fraud period. There is not any reasonable doubt about was going on. All the indicia point to fraud. I have been in Internal Controls or responsible for Internal Controls most of my professional life. I know fraud when I see it. You know it too. Don’t play dissembling games with us.
If there was no fraud then Detroit, Milwaukee, Pittsburgh, Philadelphia, Phoenix and Atlanta would be proudly opening the books, ballots and envelopes for all to see. That our political class is too weak kneed to confront it is a shame on us the American people to have put these people in place. We are learning our lesson.
Earlier today we hear that the US Supreme Court is not taking up the appeal about Pennsylvania selecting Biden electors. I think it is because they are going to force the political class to either fix this fraud or capitulate. Same with the DOJ. They are making the politicians police themselves and we are seeing what a sorry bunch they are. To be honest I don’t disagree with them. I believe they will act as more and more evidence comes out. Crowd sourcing is a beautiful thing.
Some politicians are stepping up (Gaetz, Cruz and Cotton and Kelly @ Pennsylvania) and we have to support them. The accommodators like Kemp in Georgia, Toomey in Pennsylvania, Shirkey in Michigan are disgraces. Again I recommend the latest two Frei Viva and Barnes podcasts to get up to speed.
So Montage, I leave you with this challenge. Show to us how stopping the vote in the early am is not fraud. How there can be 100K data dumps of votes for Biden after the pause of counting. How signature verification was turned down so low to be meaningless. How dead people can vote and people out of state can vote and their ballots counted. Put forth your compelling case that this is normal non-fraudulent behavior.
We have put forth our case now put forth yours.
I await your response.
It’s mob mentality and guilty until proven innocent for those working this election and that’s rather sad, really. –Montage
Montage’s comment rang a distant bell for me. Then I remembered. Burke, the sleazoid corporate guy in “Aliens” denying he had any nefarious plans for Ripley and Newt to be implanted with aliens and then to kill off the rest of the crew while in hypersleep. Of course that was his plan….
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This is so nuts. I mean, listen … Listen to what you’re saying. It’s paranoid delusion. How… It’s really sad. It’s pathetic.
–Burke, after his treachery is discovered in “Aliens”
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I thought Paul Reiser, whom I only knew from the anodyne sitcom, “Mad About You,” did a great job in “Aliens.”
I am spartacus
The claims you make have already been debunked. Why keep trotting them out? Although your wording is confused. You say ‘stopping the vote in the early am’. Voting stopped at 8pm not in the early am. Maybe you mean vote counting? In which case that is not true. It never stopped. They did however begin to count mail-in ballots after the same day voters ballots were counted.
The data dumps were just that ‘data dumps’. The ballots are counted over a long period and then they do ‘dumps’ in a short period. Someone makes a tally of the ballot counts and then they do a dump. It was separated because they divided the piles. Read about it here from Fox News.
https://www.mediaite.com/tv/fox-news-eric-shawn-fact-checks-trump-on-vote-dumps-claim-made-by-hannity-guest-about-ballots/
The number of dead people that voted so far is very low and all debunked.
Here’s one
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/20000-dead-voters-in-pennsylvania/
The list goes on. Do some research, please.
Neo,
A TV investigator debunks the GA conspiracy theory.
https://www.mediaite.com/election-2020/local-tv-investigation-thoroughly-debunks-smoking-gun-conspiracy-theory-pushed-by-rudy-giuliani-about-ga-ballot-counting-video/
Montage cites Snopes, Mediaite. LOL, LOL, LOL, LMFAO.
Enjoy your lockdown. What a maroon.
How politics have progressed:
William M. “Boss” Tweed (1871) “As long as I count the Votes, what are you going to do about it. Say?”
Josef Stalin (1923): “I consider it completely unimportant who in the party will vote, or how; but what is extraordinarily important is this — who will count the votes, and how.”
Nicaraguan dictator Anastasio Somoza (1977) “Indeed, you won the elections, but I won the count.”
Democratic Party, USA (2020) “We will cast the votes; We will count the votes; You will not find organized opposition to refute it; You will not find judges to enjoin against it.”
What a long way we’ve come.
Montage:
I think what om was trying to tell you is that appealing to the authority of Snopes, Mediaite, Politifact and the like is hopeless in this venue. Fox News (have you not been keeping up?) is no longer in good odor either.
You may consider those sources to be unimpeachable, but we don’t. We’ve found them to be quite full of … peaches, to be polite.
Feel free to paraphrase and present such arguments on your own say-so — meaning you get to defend the claims yourself, not just throw a link over the transom and pretend the discussion is over.
huxley:
Montage appears to consider the readers of Neo’s blog to be undiscerning cretins that would ascribe credibility to Snopes or Mediate or his “go to authorities.” He is a maroon in that way. But good for a laugh. Hope you had a good Thanksgiving BTW.
Montage @ 10:05
Debunked? By whom? Send me the links so we can ascertain the validity of the facts debunking:
– That vote pauses are normal. Show that occurring in prior elections. I read Politifact article and find it unconvincing. A reported burst pipe in State Farm Arena was false. The watchers were sent home but not a select team lead by Wandrea Moss and Ruby Freeman. Watch the video.
– Data dumps are normal. Okay I will concede that. I understand that the absentee ballot may account for a bulge or spike but 98%+ for Biden in all cases? In the named cities only? I have a bridge in New York you might be interested in buying. Show me the link that states that such a large percent in one vote total is not statistically relevant.
– That it is normal not to allow poll challengers to observe the ballots in contravention to law.
– You concede that dead people vote just not in large numbers. Supposedly in Michigan deceased people absentee ballots are flagged and put to the side. How can you prove that was the case if the ballot signature verification was turned lower than the vendor recommendations? Unsolicited ballot mail out could be returned by anyone. A run through the poll books would show how many dead did vote. Right now in the process they keep finding dead people voting. Jury is out on that.
– That deliveries in the middle of the night are normal. By the way how does that square with chain of custody rules? Has anyone asked the driver where he came from? Any media outfit curious and reported on this?
– You believe Gabe Sterling vs. your lying eyes? Suitcases or ballot boxes under a cloth covered table is a normal storage point? Unsecured? That nobody moved them along replacing old boxes with new boxes? But instead they waited to process them after the observers left? That bridge offer is still good.
– That the named cities are so proud of their process they have offered to open the books but the Trump campaign refused. I haven’t found that report anywhere.
– That all military votes went 100% to Biden in Fulton county but not in other counties in Georgia? That is not statistically relevant. Are there counties that the military went 100% to Trump to offset? I have an email from a Nigerian prince that needs to move money. Should I forward it to you?
– Show me the analysis of how in these named cities plus Clark County have such a spike in voter participation rates is normal.
– That it was just Joe being Joe when he boasts of the “most extensive voter fraud organization in the history of the United States.
– Every auditor, election lawyer, CPA who has studied the data says there was fraud. I haven’t found anyone who says differently that not part of the government. Show me the person who says their analysis shows everything was on the up and up.
Several instances of irregularities I can chalk up to human error but not the consistent report of irregularities too many to put in a short blurb. I haven’t even gone down the fever swamp of Dominion and fractal voting if true which I withhold judgement. What we have is good old fashion Jim Crow Democratic vote fraud. Time honored and practiced with impunity and that is what infuriates me. As Dr Tarver said in the Michigan Senate hearing, “we don’t need new laws we need to enforce the laws we have.”
In conclusion, you believe that Democrats did not break the election laws?
Hey now … leave montage alone. He is just using the demo/media approved “debunked” BS as proof of whatever THEY don’t agree with … America Knows the Act… we been seeing it for 4 years.
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montage is just following the dems/his approved talking points … ease off … he can’t help himself, he got bartender luv going
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though, am surprised the democheats haven’t developed better “debunkers”.
” though, am surprised the democheats haven’t developed better “debunkers”.
They don’t actually think they need better “debunkers”. They figure they’ve got “the law” on their side.
“law is often but the tyrant’s will, and always so when it violates the rights of the individual.” Thomas Jefferson
In a representative democracy, there can be no greater violation of the rights of the individual than disenfranchisement of their vote.
}}} Ah, the pleasure of experiencing a Zapruder film…. A film that makes a total and complete mockery of “The Official Claims”.
The actual Zapruder film did nothing of the kind. Images from the film were public within days and the film itself was studied by the Warren Commission staff.
You really really don’t know how the film destroyed any narrative the government had to sell. And apparently haven’t even thought it through.
It offered very exacting timing of the shots, which otherwise would have been totally lacking. It identified EXACTLY how many shots were involved. It showed exact recoil behaviors, etc.
This strongly constrained the narrative, limited the amount of handwaving that was possible, and also showed that, for Oswald to have been the lone shooter, he would have had to pull off a magnificent series of shots using that lame-ass Carcano bolt-action rifle…. even as he was known to be a horrible shot (he went hunting in Russia with some buddies — using a SHOTGUN — and couldn’t hit the broad side of a barn with it… but shows up a year later and pulls off a series of shots that a specialist pro would have been lucky to manage. Proof? No. But if you believe that, I’m sure you also believe that Biden won fair and square…)
No, Neo, Art…
It did an awful lot to limit and constrain the story the government could tell, and the Zapruder film wasn’t RELEASED TO THE PUBLIC for OVER A DECADE:
On March 6, 1975, on the ABC late-night television show Good Night America (hosted by Geraldo Rivera), assassination researchers Robert Groden and Dick Gregory presented the first-ever US network television showing of the Zapruder film.
So yeah, it DID destroy any narrative the government might have had in mind, and forced them into a quick tap dance trying to fudge up a quick narrative on the fly. This has been the HEART of all the CTs that have existed since then. Who the hell is asking questions about Charles Giteau?
Now, what does this say about various CTs?
Mrrr, the best argument against a CT is the fact that there has been no one coming forth with “intimate details” on their death bed. If it was a malicious event, this seems markedly improbable.
The best, most rational CT I’ve heard so far is that Kennedy was killed by a totally accidental misfire from one of the SS agents… THIS would warrant a non-malicious coverup of things (it would totally demoralize the nation even more so if Kennedy was killed by a stupid ACCIDENT), as well as a fairly long-running coverup to protect people involved, one that might well last through to today, and be effective.
Spartacus:
As I note in other places — this situation is, indeed, lacking a “Trout in the Milk”. The bucket, however, DOES have so many minnows in it that there’s no room for the milk…
That’s even more serious than a single trout.
It is also worth noting that Rasmussen polled (yeah, but…) and found that not only did Republicans strongly believe this was all bullshit, but — more critically — 30% of Democrats “somewhat believed” that the election was rigged for Biden, and 20% strongly believed that it was rigged for Biden.
I think the only question about THAT poll is, “How many Dems believe it, but weren’t willing to admit it to the poll takers?”
Apologies to Montage.
Last night in the heat of the moment I put in sarcastic references to buying a bridge and Nigerian princes. You had made a good faith effort to provide references and you did convince me that the vote “pause”/”stoppage” may indeed be mis-information. So I apologize for the sarcastic references. But I remain firm in my base statement that there was planned systematic large scale fraud.
Matthew 23-24
…23 So if you are offering your gift at the altar and there remember that your brother has something against you, 24 leave your gift there before the altar. First go and be reconciled to your brother; then come and offer your gift.
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Sure, I do see there are inconsistencies with the voting and what I would call errors. There might even be some fraud. But I would argue that it is not enough to make a difference in any of the states. If you drill down in any state you’ll find inconsistencies. It doesn’t automatically mean fraud or conspiracy.
I think the court cases are fine and Trump team have every right to follow whatever leads they have regarding voter fraud. But so far they have, I think, gone now 1 for 49. Just yesterday they lost 5 cases. And these are not just from Obama appointed judges. This is the only realistic avenue and it’s not working. A WI conservative judge wrote:
> The relief being sought by the petitioners is the most dramatic invocation of judicial power I have ever seen,” said Brian Hagedorn, a conservative elected justice, in a concurring opinion. “Judicial acquiescence to such entreaties built on so flimsy a foundation would do indelible damage to every future election. Once the door is opened to judicial invalidation of presidential election results, it will be awfully hard to close that door again. This is a dangerous path we are being asked to tread.”
What amazes me is how divided our country is now. From a historical perspective I’m curious how this election will be presented in history. It likely depends on Trump’s next move. Thanks for the links. I read many from both sides.
Who are you going to believe; the demonKrats or your lying eyes?
From Montage:
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Neo,
This has been debunked
https://leadstories.com/hoax-alert/2020/12/fact-check-video-from-ga-does-not-show-suitcases-filled-with-ballots-pulled-from-under-a-table-after-poll-workers-dismissed.html
Not that anyone here cares or believes it since it doesn’t fit the convenient conspiracy theory narrative.
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Montage: You wrote the above in the Fulton County topic, There has been a direct response from one journalist to your LeadStories link, which IMO does a pretty thorough demolition of your link.
https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/12/democrats_defense_of_georgia_election_fraud_video_doesnt_hold_water.html
Which is also a good example of what neo and her readers experience on a regular basis — hence, our skepticism when you do your bit to “set us straight.”
Though you don’t seem to have a clue about that, preferring to pull your “more in sorrow, than in anger” sighing that reality doesn’t fit our narrative.
You might want to look in the mirror on that one. Did you ever consider that you have a narrative?
The saying goes that when you point the finger, you’ve got three long fingers pointing back at you.
Go ahead and make your points as best you can — if you can — but leave off the condescending noises about how sad it is the neo community is so close-minded and that the country is so divided.
Gb, you have too many enemies and not enough blowhard angels or archangels on your team. Do you humans really think this time you will win and defeat evil? Trump is trying but what are you doing except sounding good on paper?
By your own standards, you crucified yourself. Sad and unnecessary.
An interesting look at the election from the point of view of Las Vegas bookies and odds makers. Not direct evidence, but just one more piece of the puzzle that was this election;
By: Wayne Allyn Root
November 27, 2020
“I’ve been a Las Vegas odds maker and sports gaming expert for four decades- long before I became known as a nationally syndicated conservative talk show host. I understand odds and gambling in a way that no other conservative media personality, host, or politician in this country could.
And I can tell you something is very wrong with this presidential election. It reminds me of a fixed football game. Remember the famous fixed 1978 game between the New York Giants and Philadelphia Eagles. The Giants quarterback handed the ball off. The running back didn’t want it. It fell on the ground. Herm Edwards of the Eagles picked it up and ran it into the end zone with seconds left for a last second victory. Every bettor in the world knows that game was fixed. It doesn’t matter if you can prove it. We all know.
Gamblers also feel the same way about this presidential election. This presidential election is rancid. It feels as fixed as that Giants-Eagles NFL football game. Let me give you the details of this election- from a gambler’s perspective.
Trump entered the night a 2 to 1 underdog. As soon as the polls started to close and the picture became clear, Trump’s odds quickly moved to even money. Then Trump became the slight favorite. Then a moderate favorite. Then a 2-to-1 favorite. Then 3 to 1. 4 to 1. 5 to 1. 6 to 1. 7 to 1. Finally, Trump moved to 8 to 1 favorite.
What does all this mean? Bettors putting their money on the line during Election Night have always proven to be deadly accurate. Smart bettors can clearly see what direction a race is taking. Bettors around the world clearly saw what I saw, when they stared at the electoral map- Trump was headed for an electoral landslide. But something wasn’t quite right. Fox News wouldn’t call Florida for Trump- even though he was ahead by a mile. They wouldn’t call Ohio- even though Trump was ahead by a mile, They wouldn’t call Texas- even though Trump was ahead by a mile. I sat there screaming at my television.
More strange calls. Fox News had called Virginia for Biden at the start of the night- with Trump well ahead in Virginia. Trump would remain ahead in Virginia for three long hours after Fox awarded the electoral votes to Biden. Why would they do that? What was the rush? It made no sense.
Biden was awarded Virginia with Trump ahead. But Trump was ahead by a mile in Florida, Ohio and Texas, yet Fox News refused to award him the electoral votes. I knew at that moment, something was wrong.
Something smelled fishy. Something was rotten in the DC Swamp. Bettors witnessed Trump dominating. He clearly won not only those key states of Florida, Ohio and Texas, but Trump also enjoyed large leads in the entire Midwest- Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin and Iowa. It was all but over. Trump had an electoral landslide. Hence the massive 8 to 1 odds in favor of Trump.
And then it happened. It was the most bizarre call in Election Night history. Fox News called Arizona for Biden. Why? It wasn’t even close to over. There was no reason on earth to make that call. Arizona is STILL not over 8 days later. CNN still hasn’t awarded Arizona. ABC pulled it back from Biden only 24 hours ago.
Why would Fox News be in such a rush to call Arizona for Biden? At that moment, Trump’s odds crashed almost instantly from 8 to 1, back down to 2 to 1. That drop set off alarm bells. My friend who is one of the biggest bookmakers in the country called me to say, “Wayne, something is wrong. I’ve never seen a drop like that, let alone a drop that fast. How can Trump go from 8 to 1, to 2 to 1. Someone knows something. We’ve got a problem.”
It was as if someone had decided in advance to give Arizona to Biden- whether he won it, or not. It was as if the secret code was known to only a few billionaire gamblers, “Fox News awards Arizona to Biden.” Six magic words. Someone was ready for that call. Someone waited until Trump was a prohibitive 8 to 1 favorite, then knew to bet millions of dollars on Biden at the longest odds of the night. Someone knew the fix was in. Someone made a fortune.”
Who would that be? Soros? Zuckerberg? Bloomberg? Bezos? Or?
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Ymar,
One measure of a man is the number and quality of his enemies. I restrict my enemy list to those who wish to unjustly restrict my liberty. But I’m open to expanding that list as wide as is necessary.
At 72, I can’t physically engage in strenuous combat that requires great stamina. But I can sure as hell use my mind to strategically advise those who can. Striking an enemy’s logistics, targeting the leader’s assistants and gaining leverage over an enemy by attaching to their actions, what for them is intolerable consequence is how you defeat an enemy.
“Professionals think about logistics, amateurs about tactics” Gen. Omar Bradley
Blowhard angels?
Only God can fully defeat evil, since every generation produces another crop of those inclined to criminality and evil. But we can from time to time prune back that bush. That time has come again.
Hopefully, Trump will be able to do that in a second term, but until Trump plays out his hand, words are all that is appropriate.
If he fails, then it will be time to ‘misbehave’ and part of that will be preparing for 4th Generation warfare. “Aim small, miss small” applies to logistical strategies as well as target practice.
One thing is certain, I for one will not live a ‘life’ of craven submission to men and women who aren’t fit to polish a patriot’s shoes.