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This may have been one of the reasons the Trump team has disconnected with Sidney Powell

The New Neo Posted on by

[Hat tip: commenter “Kate.”]

Powell made this allegation against Georgia’s Republican Governor Kemp:

Mr. Kemp and the secretary of state [Raffensperger]…[are] in on the Dominion scam with their last-minute purchase or award of a contract to Dominion of $100 million. The state bureau of investigation for Georgia ought to be looking into financial benefits received by Mr. Kemp and the secretary of state’s family about that time.”

Powell is not even asserting she has any evidence on that score, only that she suspects corruption and collusion in voting fraud (to hurt Trump) on their part. That’s the sort of reckless public statement Powell shouldn’t be making without strong evidence, if she wants to retain credibility in other matters. It’s also a side issue, to say the least.

This sort of shooting from the hip on Powell’s part seems to me to be a change in behavior for her; to the best of my knowledge she’s usually been careful not to make public claims without being able to back them up.

That said, the purchase of the Dominion equipment in Georgia was a step in a process that was already being criticized as suspicious in January of 2019. I didn’t follow the story at the time, but the state had been contemplating setting up a new system of voting, and the discussion pitted paper ballots against machine voting, with Kemp opting for the latter:

…Kemp proposed spending $150 million on a new statewide voting system, an amount that matches estimates for the cost of the system promoted by ES&S, called ballot-marking devices, which use a combination of touchscreens and ballot printers.

The latest moves fueled suspicions that cozy connections between lobbyists, Kemp and other elected officials will lead to ES&S winning a rich contract to sell its computerized voting products to the state government, even though 55 percent of Georgia voters said in a poll by The Atlanta Journal-Constitution this month that they prefer a cheaper system where paper ballots are filled in by voters.

After Kemp faced allegations from his opponent, Democrat Stacey Abrams, that he used his position as Georgia’s secretary of state to run an unfair election for governor last year, he’s now being accused of tilting the procurement of voting machines toward ES&S, which is the state’s current election company.

In Georgia, the paper ballots were going to be counted by machine also, so my guess is that voting machines would have entered into it no matter what decision was made. However, paper ballots were less expensive than the decision that was ultimately made to purchase the machines from Dominion. Maybe Kemp made that decision in order to avoid the criticism about his close connections to ES&S, which would be ironic if true.

I discuss the matter only to point out that Powell isn’t making the controversy up; it seems to be based on an older argument regarding ES&S and Kemp. But that would have involved ordinary corruption, even if true – not collaborating in voting fraud to throw a national election.

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This may have been one of the reasons the Trump team has disconnected with Sidney Powell — 24 Comments

  1. Even if many, or most, of Sidney’s claims are true, it seems they need far more FBI/ gov’t investigation. Which ain’t gonna happen.

    However, even pursuing these questions create a “FRANKENSTEIN” legal complaint, as PA Obama-appointed Republican Judge Brann wrote.

    I think Dominion should be thoroughly investigated, but won’t be. And pursuing the Big Dominion Conspiracy, even if true, hugely distracts from the more mundane illegal ballot drops at 3am in the Fraud Cities – especially the Biden only ballots. Tho once the illegal ballots get mixed in, they become, literally, inseparable from the legal ballots.

    Two more weeks of breathlessness coming.

  2. Tom Grey: Now that I have some spare time I checked that link you supplied Nov. 12:

    https://www.naturalnews.com/2020-11-11-election-data-analyzed-votes-switched-biden-software.html

    I commented here:

    https://www.thenewneo.com/2020/11/12/update-on-election-fraud-allegations/#comment-2524625

    I downloaded the referenced JSON file, parsed it and looked for the data at the specified times when a Trump to Biden vote switch occurred. But I found no data at those times.

    Either the NYT deleted those entries or they were never there. I don’t have a way to tell.

    Still, if one could bust the voting machines with a Python script, someone else would have done so within a day or two after the election and Powell wouldn’t be in this pickle.

  3. Tom Gray:

    See the Viva Frei Robert Barnes video about he PA Federal Judge Brann.

    Robert Barns didn’t cut Judge Bram’s argument any slack and the Judge deserved none in Barns’ assessment IIRC.

    At the end of the video (posted yesterday) it was strongly implied that Barns is working on the Trump team for the Georgia challenges.

  4. ES&S is based in Omaha and is about 5 miles from where I sit right now. Giant (and I do mean giant) American flag on its building.

  5. Without commenting on Sydney Powell’s evidence, since I have no idea as to the quality or even whether it exists, I reprise my comment from the other post.

    I think the Trump team is focused on the legality of the election process as the best path to victory. It is a narrow focus based on constitutional provisions. I suspect that they became alarmed when SP fired her blunderbuss that it would overshadow the argument that they want to advance.

    For one thing, gathering evidence to support SP without subpoena power would be difficult. Giuliani addressed the lack of subpoena authority. It would likely be a lengthy process at best. Time is of the essence.

    SP obviously believes that there is something worth pursuing. I suspect that she is correct. How and when to pursue it is the question.

  6. A reminder of something we all know, and mostly remember as former collegians. LOL

    When given an assigned book reading … always … read … the … footnotes. And the biblio too.

    Several of you are history majors, as well as versed in classical rhetoric techniques and logic. As we all had rubbed in our faces in the principles of historiography courses … “provenance”; “timeline”, “consistency”, “probability”, and some principles especially applicable to this case …

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Source_criticism#Principles

  7. Thanks, Neo, for chasing down exactly what Powell said. It’s somewhat less inflammatory than I thought, but still, I believe, not very helpful at this time.

  8. I understand her frustration. She and her team are doing the work that the thoroughly corrupt FBI and DOJ should be doing, and she is getting no help from TPTB, who have a vested interest a Biden presidency. She’s probably correct about the corruption in Georgia; it’s a fair bet that nearly all state and local governments are almost as corrupt as the Federal government has become. Should she have said what she said? Maybe not. I applaud her efforts, but it is a forlorn hope, at best. There are far too many forces and far too much money and power working against her. Time to sit back and watch what a Biden presidency burdens us with, I’m afraid.

  9. However, here’s a guy who managed to find the right data files, do some JSON magic, and find the vote switches I was hoping to find this morning:
    __________________________________________________

    “Pede” identified two states — Virginia and Minnesota — where there were hundreds of thousands of “votes lost,” a sure indicator of fraud, even though those states’ votes are not being recounted, nor are there legal challenges.

    Additionally, AT’s Andrea Widburg, on November 16 in “There may have been massive voter fraud in Virginia”, noted strange happenings in the vote totals and allocations in the wee hours of November 4.

    I have read the JSON code provided by the New York Times (see below), and I concur.
    …
    As far as I can tell, the 372,462 votes that were thrown away at 12:12 AM never came back, except to the extent the fraudsters created votes out of thin air for Biden.

    –Nick Chase, “It’s in the Code: Hanky-Panky in Virginia’s Votes”
    https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2020/11/its_in_the_code_hankypanky_in_virginias_votes.html
    __________________________________________________

    This is a big part of what I expected to see for showing programmatic vote fraud. It’s irrefutable, unless doubt can be cast upon the NYT data feeds which have been snagged.

    If Powell has this truly nailed down, she may make her case yet.

  10. This link is still good for Pennsylvania’s real-time voting result updates:

    https://static01.nyt.com/elections-assets/2020/data/api/2020-11-03/race-page/pennsylvania/president.json

    You need to “drill down” into the data-structure to get to a big example of the vote switching as follows:

    data
    races
    0
    timeseries
    187
    voteshares
    188
    voteshares

    in the 187 timeseries, you’ll see the vote count is 2984468 with Trump having 0.566 of the vote, and Biden with 0.420. If you do the arithmetic, you get:
    Trump 1689209 Biden 1253476 (i removed the fractional part)

    in the 188 timeseries, you’ll see that the vote count is now 2984522 with Trump having 0.56 of the vote and Biden with 0.426. if you do the arithmetic you get:
    Trump 1671332 Biden 1271406

    That’s a loss of 17877 for Trump; a gain of 17930 for Biden (!!)

    Note on the timestamps in this data: they are GMT, which means you have to subtract several hours (e.g., 5 hours for Eastern Standard Time) to get the local time.

    As mentioned elsewhere, expressing the candidate’s votes as a percentage of the total vote leads to obscuring things….why not just give each candidate’s total votes instead? It does seem to be intentional.

  11. John Wilcox:

    I’m working with that file and have extracted the structure — not hard to do with the Python json library.

    However, I was only looking for a vote switch mentioned in a web article:

    # ______________________________________
    #
    # Data @ 01:51:26
    # Trump 0.578 [share of votes]
    # Biden 0.401 [share of votes]
    # Votes: 573857
    #
    # Data @ 01:51:52 [26 seconds later]
    # Trump 0.568 [share of votes]
    # Biden 0.406 [share of votes]
    # Votes: 574417
    # ______________________________________

    I couldn’t find that and didn’t examine the data further.

    As mentioned elsewhere, expressing the candidate’s votes as a percentage of the total vote leads to obscuring things….why not just give each candidate’s total votes instead? It does seem to be intentional.

    John Wilcox: Exactly! That’s bothered me too.

  12. huxley:
    Which state is the one you’re looking at, maybe I can find it.

    ALSO #1: I downloaded several states’ data about a week ago, and I then noticed that they continued to be updated, you might want to redownload the files you’re interested in.

    ALSO: #2: I think that MATLAB might also be a good analysis tool to use on this data, I’ve just started dabbling in MATLAB, haven’t had the time to work on election returns.

  13. I believe Sidney Powell might be having a manic episode or some equally disruptive sort of mental decompensation. She certainly appears to be having delusions of grandeur as well as possible paranoid thinking. While elements of these arguments might be true, her frantic, grandiose, inappropriate, far-reaching assertions strike me as far more similar to manic patients I have worked with than anything else. If so, my heart goes out to her and everyone trying to navigate the situation.

  16. Victor Davis Hanson offers panoramic advice for our post-election crazy — including some focused for Powell and her supporters:
    ___________________________________________________

    But in the world of politics and perceptions, if the Kraken is really not to be birthed as a canary, overwhelming data should be produced immediately, given the arena is not just electoral and legal but now political.

    –Victor Davis Hanson, “A Time of Chaos Upon Chaos Atop Chaos”
    https://amgreatness.com/2020/11/22/a-time-of-chaos-upon-chaos-atop-chaos/

  17. huxley:

    Yes, it is time series 27 and 28 in Michigan’s data that you’re referencing.

    Now how about this that I just noticed in Pennsylvannia:
    time series 47 1111586 total votes
    time series 48 871782 (roughly 291000 votes gone!?)

    time series 55 1325632
    time series 56 739443 (roughly 586000 votes gone!?)

    What the heck is going on here? I’m beginning to wonder if these JSON files can be trusted at all…..or….are they evidence of additional hanky-panky.

  18. John Wilcox: I see what you’re seeing in Michigan. The timestamps go up in sensible increments but the vote total bounces up and down, which ought to be impossible.

    However, the “eevp” (whatever that is) changes too. My guess is we’re seeing the vote totals for separate counties.

    But that doesn’t explain your anomaly for Pennsylvania from [“votes”: 2984468] to [“votes”: 2984522].

    Looks like we need to check the “vote_shares”/”votes” for each “eevp”, do the vote_shares arithmetic and make sure Trump’s votes aren’t going backward.

  19. This is a testament to the stupidity (or cunning!) of the vote_share approach. Simple human inspection of the data won’t reveal if Trump votes are being transferred to Biden.

    I see no good reason for the Trump and Biden numbers to be reduced to decimal fractions. Furthermore, vote_share only goes to three decimal places, which means votes are guaranteed to be lost/gained in the rounding.

  20. Hmm… no, I don’t think “eevp” corresponds to county. Not sure. It seems to be a percentage of something — precincts reporting?

  21. Anyone who supports the use of electronic/computerized voting machines immediately loses all credibility with respect to speaking about technology in my opinion, and seriously undermines their judgement about _anything_, so upon reading this, my opinion of Kemp went down significantly.

    That said, I think Powell has dug herself in a hole. She sounds increasingly unhinged with respect to her accusations, and I can help but wonder if this whole “take the election back” push is starting to implode. Although there is plenty of evidence to suggest further investigation is called for, we keep hearing rumbling about big smoking guns, (or a “kraken”), and if that doesn’t emerge in the next week or so, I think it’s time to stop taking these claims seriously.

    I know that Trump is steadily pursuing the right path with detailed strategies in each state, but even his claims are starting to sound baseless (e.g., that millions of votes were changed). I have no doubt significant fraud took place, but I don’t see any progress being made in exposing this in proportion to the kinds of claims that are being made, even factoring in Trump’s tendencies to exaggerate.

  22. Rick Gutleber: Agree on all counts.

    Hi-tech voting is a disaster. The Trump, Powell etc. claims are sounding unhinged. The “Take the election back” campaign may be imploding.

    Serious evidence must be presented ASAP.

  23. It’s L Wood, TGeorgia boi since 3 years old although pure blood Southerners may dispute that when they come from the Lincoln is a tyrant and needed killing camp, is the one filing suit in Georgia. So he would have the goods.

    L Wood, Sid, and Rudy form a kind of triumvirate. A Holy Trinity, at least for lawfare.

    She doesn’t have evidence of Georgia issues, but L Wood does.

    The Trump, Powell etc. claims are sounding unhinged. The “Take the election back” campaign may be imploding.

    Everything Ymar type and conspiRACIST focused, sounds unhinged to you. It is because you have a lot to unlearn first in all those decades of human life.

    https://twitter.com/Ymarsakar/status/1331281847779811329?s=20

    Georgia on my mind.

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