Here’s today’s Giuliani, Powell, and Ellis press conference on election fraud allegations
I hear it was a lulu, but I haven’t watched any of it yet although I intend to. Here it is:
Will the MSM cover this at all, except perhaps to say briefly it was a deluded conspiracy theory and there’s no need to even take a look?
There are a select number of conspiracy theories you delete off here, neo.
Because you think there is no need for anyone here to take a look.
I can name 3. And no, they were not posted 9ften here
“Certified counted votes cannot be uncounted without disenfranchising all black voters in America” is the refrain I’ve heard uttered in one form or another whenever there is a whisper about possible election fraud.
If the bulk of the MSM either completely ignores or dismisses all this as just a bunch of crazy right wing conspiracy theories I suppose at least half the country will accept that narrative without question. And a large chunk of Republican voters will probably not want to press this issue out of fear of potentially engendering more chaos in a year that has already been the most chaotic year since WWII.
So my expectations are set very low.
In all likelihood, it will not be covered, but if mentioned, it will certainly be dismissed as a “conspiracy theory”, yet another term which has been thoroughly destroyed as a meaningful descriptor by the same progressives who have spent the last four years lying and fabricating and spewing endless propaganda. I would urge everyone to read the fine piece posted at Gatestone By Soeren Kern and entitled “Was the U.S. Election Stolen?”, which covers some of the same issues. Will this kraken released by Sidney, Rudy, and Lin truly have the strength necessary to vanquish all the elements in this most brazen attempt at a coup?
Ymarsakar:
I have let you post many times about flat earth theory and all sorts of other conspiracy theories some of which you are advancing even to this day. I finally called a halt to the flat earth stuff because you were posting repetitively about it in many threads.
Yesterday I gave you several links to comments of mine in the past where I explain that.
People here already read a great deal of what you had to say on the subject before I asked you to stop doing that.
I am not the MSM or a reporter for the MSM who purports to be covering every important story, either, and the comments section is not the equivalent of a news section.
It looks like they are going to pin a lot of this on the server data. My understanding (based on what I’ve read about) is that there was a computer algorithm in place that took a chunk of third party votes and changed them to Biden. This was enough to put him over the top in several “light blue” states (New Hampshire comes to mind, where Republicans all won big in down-ticket elections), but not enough to get close in others like Florida or Texas. Meanwhile, when it looked like it wasn’t going to be enough to keep up with Trump in the six key states Biden actually needed, they had to stop the process simultaneously at 2 AM, and figure out a way to jump Biden ahead in all those states before restarting the count. What is infuriating is that this probably was a bigger election blowout than 2016 and that Trump probably won the popular vote to boot.
(Of course, this will all ultimately get thrown out of court to stave off mass rioting, but maybe someone will document the tale for posterity someday.)
My post on this near the bottom of old “Another day, another fraud” thread. I outline the news conference there, and then add
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/watch-live-trump-campaign-path-victory-press-briefing
Hear, hear, Neo.
You have been tolerant to a fault to someone who so often hijacks your forum.
Back to the topic. I watched the news conference on FNC because a friend alerted me. (I don’t watch FNC very often these days). To say that it was explosive would be a gross under statement. He later told me that he switched around to CNN and MSNBC and they were not covering it.
Just saw Johnathon Turley in a follow-up, and he was dismissive. I don’t know if he is justified, or if his innate liberalism surfaced. Some of what he said sounded like foolishness to my unsophisticated ears. I seriously doubt that Sidney Powell and Giuliani would put themselves at risk if they didn’t have the goods.
“Of course, this will all ultimately get thrown out of court to stave off mass rioting, but maybe someone will document the tale for posterity someday.”
Perhaps they should consider the Civil War that might result if they allow this steal to take place. And who, exactly, will get gutted like fish when that happens.
I thought the Giuliani presser went off very well, except for the sweat making his hair dye run down his face. He presented a good case and hammered the press for not being professional enough to go after the story on their own. Then Ms. Powell presented her case on the relationship between Dominion, a German and Spanish company, and Venezuelan vote fraud. My concern on this front is that I have read elsewhere that Dominion is not, in fact, associated with Venezuelan vote fraud. I worry that if Giuliani’s team puts too much emphasis on this link, and then it turns out not to be factual, the rest of the case will fall apart by association.
My understanding of the theory behind claiming vote fraud is that they have to propose a remedy that could “correct” the fraud. I don’t know what remedy that might be now that the votes have been blended, honest with fraudulent. If PA had followed Justice Alito’s admonition NOT to blend the votes, they might have sued to prevent the counting of the suspect votes. Now what can they ask for that remedies a fraudulent vote?
One possibility might be for enough states to refuse to certify the vote that the election is thrown into the House. I think that would take at least three states, but I’d like to see it happen.
The day that happens (if it does), rioters would start burning and destroying American cities. Since they can’t get away with their violence in Red cities, Blue cities would suffer the most, and people who live in those cities might just get tired enough of the civil disorder to turn out their Blue elected officials.
Alll of this is probably too much to hope for, I guess.
Yes they are denying that but there is evidence tying both companies, and then that company to a hedgefund whose board member includes a former obama eu ambassador and fcc official, one might say that dominion and smartmatic merged,
a youtube featuring mark malloch brown, shows their interest at an atlantic council forum as far back as 2015, in using remote voting systesmthen there are the technical manuals that a hacker has leaked about their operating systems, in the last two weeks, there have been not merely outright fraud in venezuela, but discrepancies in brazil and the phillipines among others,
My concern on this front is that I have read elsewhere that Dominion is not, in fact, associated with Venezuelan vote fraud. — F
I just saw this on FoxBusinessNews in a corporation compliant news spot. Dominion execs. making seemingly blanket denials and implying the Giuliani and Powell were liars.
My understanding is that Dominion’s seemingly blanket denials are in fact non-denial denials. I believe that Powell is making claims about the history of the many mergers, acquisitions, and spin-offs that have led up to the current Dominion corp. Dominion execs. then counter with the claim that Dominion is not now connected with Venezuela or SmartMatic. Yes, now they are not.
F
My concern on this front is that I have read elsewhere that Dominion is not, in fact, associated with Venezuelan vote fraud.
There are links between Dominion and Smartmatic, the company that supplied Chavista Venezuela with voting systems and hardware, but they are from years ago. Dominion purchased Sequoia Voting Systems in 2010. Smartmatic purchased Sequoia Voting Systems in 2005. Sequoia incorporated Smartmatic technology into its voting machines. In 2007 the Treasury Department’s Committee on Foreign Investment in the United State ordered Smartmatic to divest itself of Sequoia. Smartmatic sold Sequoia to its managers with US citizenship.
Does Dominion still use Smartmatic legacy hardware or software? Don’t know. That is the important question.
Currently, Smartmatic has sold voting technology to Los Angeles County.That appears to be the only current direct Smartmatic-US voting systems connection. (Then there is Peter Neffenger, who is Chairman of the Board of Directors of Smartmatic US, who is also on the Biden Transition Team for the Department of Homeland Security. Interesting that the Biden Transition Team site doesn’t list Neffenger’s afffiliation with Smartmatic.)
Smartmatic issued a statement in August 2017 regarding fraud in the recent Constituent Assembly “elections.” Smartmatic Statement on the recent Constituent Assembly Election in Venezuela. According to Smartmatic, there were at least a million fraudulent votes. It didn’t blame Smartmatic software or hardware for the fraud, but on the lack of opposition overseers. The opposition had boycotted the August 2017 “election” because the Constituent Assembly was replacing the National Assembly(US Congress ) elected in December 2015 with 2/3 opposition members.
Regarding lack of fraud in Venezuelan elections before 2017, Devil’s Excrement assembled a number of statistical studies of the 2004 Recall Referendum that pointed to fraud. As I believe that 3 links hold up a comment being published, I’ll not include a link.
The remedy is simple. In the contested states with evidence of fraud, the Secretaries of State refuse to certify the election. The state legislatures then select Trump electors to the Electoral College. That’s how Trump wins.
https://redstate.com/scotthounsell/2020/11/19/excuse-me-while-i-call-bs-in-arizona-n282092
This author has published similar stories about MI, WI and PA and points out very similar statistical anolmolies that point to a very well coordinated fraud scheme as Biden told us in a Freudian slip. A Brilliant scheme by DNC. They only needed to rig a handful of counties in several states.
Absent 70,000 votes in 10 counties in three states, Trump would have been reelected. When factored for all counties that match these giant jumps in performance for Biden, Trump not only would have won, he likely would have picked up Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennslyvania, Georgia, and Arizona.
The Venezuelan blog Devil’s Excrement has provided links to a number of statistical studies that point to fraud in the 2004 Recall Referendum. This contradicts the Smartmatic assertion that there was no fraud in Venezuelan elections prior to 2017.
2004 Recall Referendum Statistical Studies @ Devil’s Excrement.
Perhaps not relevant to the current discussion, but I couldn’t resist.2012:Jimmy Carter: Get Lost, Stop Meddling In Venezuela!
fertdy:
NH is a very quirky state in general. This year it voted for its Democrat senator and its two Democrat representatives, as well as Biden, but it voted very heavily for its Republican governor and flipped its legislature back to being controlled by the GOP.
it’s not unique to venezuela, going back to 2016
https://www.manilatimes.net/2020/10/10/news/national/marcos-warns-of-another-smartmatic-situation/778491/
I watched the press conference. The statistical anomalies in a handful of states and the lack of proper oversight of the mail-in vote process is enough to convince me that this election was most probably stolen. I haven’t paid that much attention to the Dominion software angle because I don’t know enough to make a judgement and the statistical evidence to me is convincing enough. But I must admit I was shocked to learn that there are votes in our election that are tabulated in foreign countries. Whether or not this led to fraud, I can’t think of any justification for this. I’m sure that 99 percent of the population was unaware of this and I can’t imagine anybody defending this process for future elections.
Nonapod,
Hold the phones, we have a winner! You are correct. That is exactly how this will play out.
Citizen X at her next annual review; “All but one of the categories on your review indicate you’re eligible for a 5% increase this year, but we have a few employees who said that sometimes in the lunchroom you mention some of these crazy conspiracies about the election. Is that true?”
That presser is well worth watching. Guliani might be getting old, but he’s still a good prosecutor. Sydney Powell is so outraged by what they’ve discovered that she was almost in tears. Jeanna Ellis ripped the press to shreds (and Guliani landed some blows, too). I found a link on ZeroHedge (scroll down a ways) that took me to a video hosted by RightSide Broadcasting; they’re new and they don’t comment. Presser starts at 58 minutes.
They make the point that we’re playing for all the marbles here.
A fanatic is one who can’t change his mind, and won’t change the subject.*
He that hath an ear, let him hear.
*Not original to Churchill but probably said by him.
@Cornhead:The remedy is simple. In the contested states with evidence of fraud, the Secretaries of State refuse to certify the election. The state legislatures then select Trump electors to the Electoral College.
They won’t, because they don’t want riots and even the Republicans are not all in for Trump.
That’s how Trump wins.
Electors are long-time party loyalists, Bill Kristol types. They won’t be voting for Trump, either because their names are public record and they’ll be targeted (before or later), or because they don’t support Trump and prefer Biden so they have a chance to get their party back.
Stabbing Trump in the back while he is down is consequence-free.
I’m getting a sinking feeling we’re not going to get the goods on the voting machines.
I keep noticing YouTubes on fraud, but no hard-hitting text summaries appear on my feeds. I’m not going to watch 20-150 min videos of talking heads ominously hinting at fraud. I want hard data.
Deeds, not words.
Anyone who listened to the press conference heard them say that this was not the venue where you present your evidence.
I think it was Ellis, who called it an opening statement. I learned from Perry Mason that in an opening statement you simply tell the jury what you intend to prove.
I give these people credit for having the sense not to say things in such emphatic terms if they didn’t think they can back it up.
The media is trying to either ignore it, or disparage it. As the saying goes, they have “skin in the game”.
I really think that this press conference was as much about the media as anything. They delivered the message hard, we are calling you out. Will it have an effect? I don’t know.
The problem I see is that the DOJ has to get involved and look at the evidence. If they don’t, this is going no where. Trump’s team of lawyers are doing as much as they can, but there is too much to do and not enough time to compile all the evidence and get it before courts that will hear them out. They need seasoned investigators and warrants to ferret out all the fraud.
I see the fraud occurring on two different fronts:
1. The Democrat controlled cities (Philadelphia, Detroit, Milwaukee, Atlanta, Las Vegas, and maybe Phoenix) did their thing, except that it was ramped up. Paying walking around money for votes, harvesting ballots, creating ballots for dead people/tenants of nursing homes, manufacturing mail in ballots, etc. Then they excluded GOP observers from watching the count. COVID was an excuse to keep observers back, but mostly they did it because they can – they have the power to do such crooked things in these crooked cities.
2. Then there was the computer algorithm. I’m not enough of a geek (heck I’m barely able to use a computer 🙂 ) to know exactly how that works, but my understanding is that the algorithm can be set up to move votes during the tabulating from one candidate to another. And to do it in small increments that won’t catch people’s attention. The evidence of this comes from watching TV screens where the count suddenly changes – a small number of votes disappears from Trump’s total and reappears on Biden’s total. The other evidence is statistical. Charts of the election results show that after midnight in Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Georgia most of the votes counted favored Biden by enough to keep him ahead of Trump. Until then Trump was winning pretty handily. Coincidence? Not likely.
The tracks of evidence are there, but if you aren’t willing to look at them with an open mind, they won’t look like much. But at least Giuliani and his team have many sworn affidavits that point to all this. Unfortunately, few judges have the stomach for looking deeper. Make no mistake, if the election results are overturned, violence will occur. That threat is now a major tool for the Democrats.
I think they should keep going for another two weeks. Maybe something big and unexpected will happen.
huxley (and others)
Search on DuckDuckGo for: “Nick Chase American Thinker” and then click on his archives, which should be the first returned item. The first three articles put up some interesting screen shots showing the nearly instantaneous increase in the Biden results around 4 a.m. The data he’s analyzing is from the NYTimes.
I don’t use Google.
I loved the press conference. It reversed my mood’s slide to defeatism.
They did a great job pointing out just what they were going to show. And making it clear that even the presstitutes have to understand that they ARE presenting evidence, and hitting them for their appalling coverage. Not that the ****s won’t continue lying. But it was so clear even Tater and Fredo can’t claim ignorance.
Further, Rudi did say that it doesn’t stop with the election. Afterwards, a pretty substantial amount of criminal prosecution is coming.
So far as I can tell, the only question is whether enough Republicans in the relevant state legislatures have any spine whatsoever. That, I know from long experience, is a dicey proposition.
And I’ve reached the point where the prospect of rioters burning blue cities troubles me not at all.
Hello. I’ve been thinking that it’s possible that the Marionette and his Faithful Sidekick might not actually be aware of the illegalities around the vote for them. I can see how it would be in the interest of the true powers to conceal these things from them, for a couple of different possible reasons (plausible deniability in the short term, so he and she can work up a righteous lather over the next several weeks without having to put on too much of an act; and leverage over the long term, so that if the Marionette or the Faithful Sidekick try to get out of the deal later, they could be threatened with the exposure of certain ‘minor details’, and that’s on top of the Hunter stuff and whatever else).
It’s kind of sad that I, who am normally quite reluctant to dip into conspiracy theories, am starting to entertain thoughts like these. I feel bad about it. How often do these theories pan out in real life? I feel like I could write a cheap novel along these lines, but that and a couple bucks would get me a cup of coffee.
I watched the entire press conference on YT. Don’t if you can find another venue. They deliberately messed with the video and sound to make it frustrating to watch.
The content was maddening. Sydney Powell claimed that there was massive election fraud by Dominion voting machines and Symatic(?) software that deliberately switched votes from Trump to Biden in neat packages regularly all night long. It was obvious since the exact same number of votes were entered each time.
Just as bad was her statement that certain Democratic machines paid up to $100 million to ensure that their local candidate would win.
If Biden wins after all this has come out, I predict that there will be a huge march of the deplorables, flying flags upside down, on DC on election day that will swamp the Dem turnout and likely be mostly peaceful.
Dana Perino suggested Dominion sue Sydney Powell, Rudy and the whole bunch.
Pleazzzzz do … lets get on to the discovery stage. It would be so interesting!
My take is different, this press conference was a disaster for the Trump team. I get that Giuliani and Powell are outraged, this was like a campaign rally at a time when the way forward is legal challenge in multiple venues. That requires a precise strategy through multiple levels by election law specialists who are thoroughly knowledgeable about each venue’s procedures and laws. This is time for performance, and not showboating.
They have a very tight timeline to file actions, pursue discovery, and prove specific violations of law and disqualifications of fair and complete results. Instead they are making vague charges of elaborate conspiracies that they will not be able to incorporate in the key states’ legal challenge paths. Just saying the US Supreme Court needs to intervene does not make that happen. The Republicans are unprepared and risk looking totally unprofessional. That’s a disaster when they face a very uphill battle in the first place.
Dustin:
Having that press conference does not mean they don’t also have “a precise strategy through multiple levels by election law specialists who are thoroughly knowledgeable about each venue’s procedures and laws.” The two are hardly mutually exclusive.
Time will tell. I happen to think that, no matter how overwhelming the evidence, the courts will be highly unlikely to intervene to change the results of the election. That is why the press and the Democrats are pressing forward with the coordinated and very firm message that Biden’s election is a done deal and anything that challenges it is tantamount to treason.
Says someone who has believed every ridiculous conspiracy about trump heh dustin and whose associate doesnt accept dissent
neo
“Time will tell.”
Time being the operative word here. IF Sydney Powell had all the time she needed she could get the job done. States start certifying Nov 3 and the last one Dec 1 … if I’m correct?
I’m afraid the clock will run out and game over.
You would think
https://aclj.org/election-law/lower-integrity-of-signature-matching-in-nevada-should-be-concern-for-court-the-integrity-of-our-elections-at-stake
“I keep noticing YouTubes on fraud, but no hard-hitting text summaries appear on my feeds. I’m not going to watch 20-150 min videos of talking heads ominously hinting at fraud. I want hard data.
Deeds, not words.”
One person starting to make sense here.
How many court cases so far, 28? THAT is where the evidence needs to be presented. How many went Trump’s way? 1
I don’t know how many more twists and turns the fraud theories have to go before the majority here would finally concede that there isn’t enough there to make a real difference. Is there any limit to how twisted and complex it needs to be?
The latest du jour… oh, the voting machines!!! When that goes down, what next?
Salem in 1692 anyone?
BigMaq:
You haven’t been reading here very carefully, apparently. Most people here have low expectations of where this is actually going to go in the courtroom. People have varied reasons for those low expectations, but that’s the gist of it.
However, that is different than thinking that fraud did not occur. Most people here think it did – possibly fraud of some magnitude, or even great magnitude.
You also seem to be repeating a claim that I’ve seen many times online, about the number of cases the Trump team has presented and lost. That doesn’t seem to be correct. Most of those cases are not from the Trump team. Giuliani addressed that issue today:
This is those within the justice systems last chance to follow the law.
The fraud is so massive that to refuse to rule in favor of Trump’s lawsuits is to declare themselves in support of a corrupt tyranny.
They will have dealt the republic a last mortal blow and will reap the whirlwind.
America’s domestic enemies are really not going to like 4th Generation Warfare.
Not sure how I feel about it. Georgia was recounted and it turned out to confirm a Biden win. People are now saying that in places like Arizona and Nebraska, traditionally red, that Trump’s brand was too toxic (e.g. Arizona voters not forgetting Trump’s words against McCain) where would be down ticket voters for (R) voted for Biden and then (R) for the Senate and House. Other “new” theories point to (R) voters wanting someone presidential, pointing to Clinton as an example, though a (D), who worked across the aisle. If this is remotely true it confirms my suspicions that the average American voter is shallow, fickle and moronic. But then again that also applies to a swath of voters across the world.
I love 2020. It is lovely watching humanity get spanked awake.
It is great.
Paul, ytube does not do stuff like that. Their server backings are being hacked and cracked. Q military, q class.
A digital revolution coup, days of darkness, internet.
Neo, the hard evidence that matters are your actual actions, not your explanations after the fact. Many of which do not make sense nor do they pass logic checks.
For example, you describe me posting the same subject as numerous times. That would be 2 days every week. That is not numerous, just steady. I write on many threads in the same day, then i dont comment after 1 or 2 days. This is significantly lower than the endless repetition you portray.
Another topic is which things you actually deleted. That is the hard evidence, which you do not have but i do.
For example, on threads about science denial, i would raise the topic of moon landing hoax. To challenge the media propaganda, i would raise cronkite on moon landing.
It got to the point where even if the subject was not flat earth, you associated it with fe theory and told me to change my thinking. I had to stop thinking about these topics as they related to media suppression, science denial.
That is where you crossed several lines but you believe otherwise.
Your justification is that you can do this because i am on your blog. That is incorrect as i explained before.
You can keep pushing this method of sts if you desire, but i would not recommend it for your spiritual future s sake.
What you called a halt to was anything remotely related to fe theory, including media science and even news links about it. And the person that decides what is good think is you neo, with no watchers and no outside views tolerated.
You have done a fine job controlling the topic, however, that is a wasted effort.
Because you contributed to the suppression the left did against fe theorists, you and other conservatives will be suppressed as per karma law.
This is not a bad judgement but simply to teach you and others what it is like from both sides. The ones controlling the narrative, main sewer, and the ones being controlled.
That is why 2020 is god s gift to me.
Yammer is being ‘repressed’ again (not) and he doesn’t like it. Neo is just so mean to poor Yammer! (not). Yammer will now prove it again (not). Yammer is such a gracious guest (not).
Jim Kunstler’s take on the news conference:
https://kunstler.com/clusterfuck-nation/the-many-layers-of-travail/#more-13524‘
LeClerc,
Many thanks for the Kunstler link. Good summary. Not encouraging, but clear-eyed and fair.
On a much earlier thread, Cicero asked what we all are doing to help reverse this. Well, here’s my tally sheet so far:
1. Persuaded TIAA to remove the post-election “Biden emerges as winner” banner from its landing page and go with something neutral. Actually got a contrite phone call from an admin in the Charlotte office about it. Surprised the hell out of me.
2. Sent a letter–a real signed paper letter in a stamped envelope–to two senators and two congressmen (not mine, alas), describing as succinctly and forcefully as I could the pickle we’re in and asking them to use their power to do something about it. Based on my limited experience of sending letters to politicians, I don’t expect anything to come of it. That’s assuming that their staffs will even forward a letter from a non-constituent. But: bread upon the waters and all that.
3. Finally, stopped lurking and started posting on this blog. It’s good to share ideas with thoughtful and informed people–even (especially?) people who disagree with us.
Neo: Re-Y’Schmucker:
You’ve been beyond patient, Lady!!
Way beyond…!
Regarding Sidney Powell and her truthfulness and the consequences for her and the Trump team if they have no proof:
https://stream.org/i-know-sidney-powell-she-is-telling-the-truth/
from ace.mu.nu
I have faith in Sydney Powell …
But as Vito Corleone told his son Michael … I never wanted this for you. I wanted you to be a Senator pulling the strings … there just wasn’t enough time!
Or something like that
GRA:
If ballots are manufactured and mixed with the real ballots, a recount won’t reveal that.
An important decision on PA voting, which wasn’t filed by President Trump’s team, but went President Trump’s way:
https://redstate.com/shipwreckedcrew/2020/11/20/pennsylvania-state-court-invalidates-2349-mail-in-ballots-where-the-voter-failed-to-date-the-declaration-n282531
How many court cases so far, 28? THAT is where the evidence needs to be presented. How many went Trump’s way? 1
There seems to be a talking point mill generating this meme. I’ve seen it again and again, but I’ve never seen it’s pushers name even one suit.
Art Deco:
Agreed. I’ve seen that assertion over and over, about all the cases Trump has lost. Never with a link or any hard information. I addressed the issue in this comment of mine which quoted Giuliani’s response to it.
“Electors are long-time party loyalists, Bill Kristol types. They won’t be voting for Trump, either because their names are public record and they’ll be targeted (before or later), or because they don’t support Trump and prefer Biden so they have a chance to get their party back.
Stabbing Trump in the back while he is down is consequence-free.” – Frederick
This election (and its prequel since 2016, and before) makes me feel like I’m of the “little” people living through the War of the Roses.
All the machinations take place at the top of the food chain, I don’t have any control over what the kingly claimants or their henchmen do, the zealots of the two main contenders are alternately aided and betrayed by fluctuating factions, and it’s MY crops the knights are riding over to kill each other, when they aren’t directly killing ME.
Miguel cervantes links a post by the man who is fast becoming my favorite character in the current drama: Ric Grenell.
I’ve seen parts of it quoted, so it’s nice to have the entire article.
Hubert,
Great to see you come out of the shadows and comment. Great comment by the way. Nice job with TIAA!
Rufus,
Thanks. Been reading Neo for years, but seldom commented. The times have changed.
TIAA: I’m guessing I wasn’t the only one who objected. There are still conservatives and classical liberals in academe. We don’t call the shots, obviously, but we’re there.