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The Trayvon Hoax — 62 Comments

1. He’s far more Hispanic than Kamala O’Hara is black or Barrie is African American

2. Glenn Loury and John McWhorter covered this pretty extensively.

   part 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_t-wtTEp7G0

   part 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWJvI1dPMAU

   Recommended.

3. I watched the movie on YouTube, found it convincing, and would recommend it to anyone. It’s too long, and it’s comically awkward in spots, but that lends it an amateurish charm, and adds to the authentic feel.

   I also saw the televised trial. At the time, I thought that the prosecution’s key witness, Rachel Jeantel (supposedly Trayvon’s girlfriend), was obviously lying, but I never suspected that she was an impostor at the center of a hoax.

   The whole case was a tragic farce, emblematic of a broken black culture. Unfortunately, Trayvon Martin’s death is still a cause célèbre on the Left and among many black people. I don’t know whether to laugh or cry.

4. The YouTube movie is very informative. The length does give you time to think about the facts that are shown. Thanks for posting this!

5. See Jerilyn Merritt on the conduct of Bernardo de la Rionda. She said it was beyond her experience on nearly 40 years of practicing criminal defense. (She said the judge, Debra Nelson, was normal range). Jerilyn Merritt also offered the gut opinion that Rachel Jeantel was being deceptive on the stand.

   It’s difficult to figure why de la Rionda would pull the stunt. Her testimony, while verbose, wasn’t salient. You had the autopsy report, the eyewitness not 30 feet away, photographs of Zimmerman’s bloody head taken just after, photographs of the crime scene which showed just where he dropped his key chain (i.e. where Martin attacked him), the recordings of his call to the non-emergency dispatcher, and maps of the complex. You could piece together what happened from that. De la Rionda tried to muddy the waters by putting local residents on the stand who thought they saw this or that but who under cross-examination revealed information which bolstered defense arguments. The real eyewitness was the man standing 30 feet away, and his testimony made clear that Zimmerman was on the ground being pummeled by Martin MMA-style.

   The salient hoax, promoted by Ryan Julison and Ben Crump and circulated by the media, was fodder for the memes witless leftists use. That Zimmerman ‘stalked’ Martin (he didn’t), that Zimmerman is the only surviving witness (he wasn’t, and there was other evidence besides that of witnesses), that there was ‘conflicting testimony’ from witnesses (there wasn’t; the one witness with a secure sight line was solid). Alan Dershowitz and Jerilyn Merritt practice criminal defense law, are accustomed to honing their arguments, and are of the older generation. For other sorts of leftists, their reactions and their pseudo-arguments are a function of their hate. Their hate is what they have left.

6. Early in the video, 2018 Gubernatorial candidate Andrew Gillum stated that Trayvon Martin was killed for “for wearing a hoodie, quite frankly.” Yup, Trayvon Martin’s pounding George Zimmerman’s head into the pavement had nothing to do with Zimmerman’s decision to shoot Trayvon Martin. Nor did Trayvon’s pounding Zimmerman’s head into the pavement have anything with the jury’s acquitting Zimmerman.

   In the 2018 race , Gillum’s Republican opponent won 8% of the black male vote. That’s about par for the course. But 18 % of black females voted for Gillum’s Republican opponent. Interesting…..

7. I read about this months ago before George Floyd. It seemed pretty clear to me that Rachel was not Trayvon’s girlfriend and that Benjamin Crump was part of a hoax. When Crump’s name came up again in connection with Floyd I wondered how it was possible that anyone would give Crump any credibility. I don’t wonder about that anymore but it is very depressing.

8. The whole Trayvon Martin case was squirrelly from the beginning with the MSM doing their best to convict Zimmerman. There was the call to 911 doctored to make Zimmerman sound like a racist. There were the photos airbrushed to hide the wounds on the back of Zimmerman’s head, and of course, the NYT’s inventing a new racial category of “white Hispanic” so that they could get in on the attacks against him. It also gave Obama the excuse he was looking for to really stir the pot and re-inject race into American politics at a time when it was dying as an issue.

9. I don’t think Rachel Jeantel claimed to be his gf, just an old friend with whom he’d reconnected. There were photos floating around the internet at the time of him in a school hallway with another (fairly attractive) girl.

10. “for wearing a hoodie, quite frankly.”

    I gather Gillum is one of those figures in re you have trouble deciding if they’re an ignoramus or a fraud.

    We have a shirt-tail who was talking up Gillum big time on Fakebook, and sliming his opponent as some sort of criminal (he slimes people routinely). Since Gillum has almost no history of having been (past the age of 22) employed outside of the political sector, I have no clue why he’d have expected an ordinary person to take him seriously. It was maddening when the police force in South Florida let him skate on prostitution and drug chages (white privilege, or whatever), but I did feel a twinge of schaldenfreude at the time our obnoxious shirt tail would have to spend on the hamster wheel to process that one.

11. Another one of those issues where some of my acquaintances can look directly at the truth and deny it.

12. Obama sent the special PR unit of the DoJ to make sure the news media had the approved narrative. Anyone notice that the only pic ever seen of Trayvon was as a little kid? And the media lightened Zimmerman’s skin tone in pics to make him look whiter?

    How many people know that he was there instead of Miami because he was suspended from a school that was damn near impossible for a black kid to be suspended from )per the same type policy that kept giving the Parkland shooter a pass)?

    How many know that Trayvon was an MMA fighter? That he wrote on his FB page that he loved to fight because he loved to make people bleed?

13. The Trayvon hoax was obvious when the msm keep showing 12 year old photos of 17 year old of the messiah’s imaginary son.

14. Question:

    Why has De la Rionda not been disbarred?

15. Because prosecutors and judges are not held accountable for anything. He retired from the prosecutor’s office shortly thereafter. He reported to Angela Corey, whom the state attorney-general had persuaded the governor to appoint special prosecutor. Her home county bounced her out of office the next chance they got.

16. I watched much of the trial via Legal Insurrection and was reminded of my own days as a juror in three criminal trials. (Yes, lawyers from both sides kept selecting me.) I remember bring surprised at how outright dumb some attorneys were, and how outraged they seemed to be when the jury found against them. The prosecution in the Zimmerman/Trayvon Martin case struck me as outright dumb, sometimes then amping up the courtroom dramatics by repeating some phrase in a raised voice as though mimicking scenery-chewing Al Pacino in a bad film.

    I’m not sure if I’ll watch this documentary or not. I’m not sure it has any real value for me to know something like what is alleged. I already have my opinion about the outcome of the trial and subsequent developments. I have no one with whom I could possibly share any new information on this front.

17. Zimmerman was in the news, faintly, not long ago. Reliably knee-jerk leftist of my acquaintance took the occasion to express his disgust that Zimmerman is not in jail because “he murdered a child.”

    I recall there being doubts about whether Martin’s girlfriend, or whatever she was, was telling the truth. That she may have been a complete impostor is a bit of a shock.

18. miklos000rosza
    I… was reminded of my own days as a juror in three criminal trials….I remember bring surprised at how outright dumb some attorneys were, and how outraged they seemed to be when the jury found against them.

    Perhaps they were dumb. Perhaps they were putting on an act. As a board member, I’ve been involved in 3 civil trials involving my HOA, as a witness or as the HOA’s point man to the attorney. One was settled before going to trial after an apparently unsuccessful attempt at mediation. One went the full trial route, with the judge making the ruling. One was dismissed with prejudice- the jury only had to decide how much the HOA should be awarded in attorney’s fees. My suspicion is that a lot of attorneys on losing cases are not surprised when their client loses, but figure that since the client is paying them big bucks, they will make the best argument they can.

    The wealthy investor who lost the last 2 suits had money to burn, so he figured, why not give it a try.He burned $100,000 in the HOA’s attorney’s fees and probably a similar amount for his attorneys.

19. I remember reading about the purported hoax (witness substitution) and not doubting it at the time, after viewing a short video story about Gilbert. He seemed to me to be one of those cause-driven fringey people, but not dishonest, just nerdy.

    I guess the reason people try out outrageous things is because sometimes they work.

    I’ll probably watch the documentary over a few days. But isn’t it interesting on how Ben Crump has managed to stay just below the radar, race-hustling his way to wealth and notoriety? Now reviewing his activities over the past few years – say, twelve or so – that might make for an interesting story. Al Sharpton is a greedy shameless camera hog, but he is also on the sidelines these days, mostly out of the picture – I guess because he’s perfected his grift and doesn’t need publicity anymore. Crump?

20. Aggie:

    Crump is an extremely important figure in all of this, whether “The Trayvon Hoax” is correct or not. Crump is involved in most of these cases in which the initial story about the facts of the case is a scam, and yet it gets disseminated so quickly and forcefully and so fast and so far that it becomes set in stone for most people, no matter how much it is corrected. Crump is the propagandist par excellence, and has no reluctance to blatantly lie. He is connected to the Trayvon Martin case, the “hands up don’t shoot” Michael Brown case, the George Floyd case, and the Jacob Blake case, as well as others. In the Blake case, for example, he’s the one who set the story as “Blake was just making peace in a fight between two women” and other lies. Crump has also written a book called Open Season: Legalized Genocide of Colored People that came out last October (look at the rave reviews there to see how successful he is in getting his message believed). He is completely devoted to spreading the narrative that innocent black people are being purposely hunted down in America. He’s not alone in the goal of making that a meme that’s believed by so many, but he’s certainly been instrumental in it, ever since the Martin case.

    In Martin, it started with the false narrative about Zimmerman (including the photo of Martin as a young boy, which according to Gilbert was supplied to the press by Crump). Once the false narrative falls through, Crump never wavers from it. Crump is only licensed to practice law in Florida, but what he does is he goes around the country and becomes a sort of legal advisor to the families, standing by their sides at news conferences and often speaking for them. IMHO, he has set the course of race relations in America back decades.

21. “How many know that Trayvon was an MMA fighter? That he wrote on his FB page that he loved to fight because he loved to make people bleed?” – stan

    Sounds like one of those psychopaths in Neo’s other post.

22. I got sucked in and watched the documentary, which was more convincing than I could have imagined. Then I watched the bloggingheads Glenn Loury-John McWhorter conversation wherein they discuss the film I just saw.

    As Glenn Loury says, the reason none of this was dug up by other journalists is that the narrative was too powerful, there was a campaign (orchestrated by Crump) to get Zimmerman charged, and President Obama himself had let us all know where his sympathies were at — to look for holes in the story was only going to happen some time later, accomplished by someone obsessive who had no reputation to lose.

    I don’t think Joel Gilbert went into it with any idea of what he was going to find.

    And this hoax was the beginning of Black Lives Matter.

23. Crump is involved in most of these cases in which the initial story about the facts of the case is a scam, and yet it gets disseminated so quickly and forcefully and so fast and so far that it becomes set in stone for most people, no matter how much it is corrected. Crump is the propagandist par excellence,

    He and his sidekick Ryan Julison are assisted in their work by a media that’s composed of people who are (1) dishonest or (2) box o’ rocks. Note, an NBC affiliate in South Florida quite deliberately doctored a recording of Zimmerman making a call to the non-emergency dispatcher to make it sound like he said something he did not say. They didn’t do this because they were Jedi-mind tricked by Ryan Julison. They did this because they are garbage people and never held accountable by the courts.

    As for Crump, he lives in a country where 4% of the homicides feature a black victim and a non-black perpetrator while 9% feature a black perpetrator and a non-black victim. About 360,000 black people die in this country every year, of whom fewer than 200 are killed by law enforcement and fewer than 700 are killed by whites, mestizos, &c in the general public. Around 8,000 are killed by other blacks. Crump’s thesis is such an utter and transparent fraud that Crump should have been skinned alive by Publisher’s Weekly and others. Our intelligentsia and their dependents and hangers-on are just worthless.

24. Now we have this, which will likely become the norm across the country after Biden wins the election:

    https://dailycaller.com/2020/09/01/new-jersey-governor-phil-murphy-law-intimidate-race-false-911-call-police-report/

    Namely, if someone calls 911 on a black person, they can be jailed for up to 5 years, if after the fact, it is determined to be a “false call” (that is, if the would-be black suspect simply states after the fact that he was doing anything else other than what he was accused of doing). The slippery slope has been reached, and under a Biden presidency, we’ll probably fall off. Namely, the law will be abolished as it pertains to black people–charges such as robbery, trespassing, sexual assault, and murder will no longer apply to them and hence the police will no longer need to have any interaction with what were once considered black criminals. That is the surest way to curtail police shootings of black people in the future.

    Under these laws, Zimmerman would have been jailed for calling 911 on Martin, as the Narrative as spun by the media (and Martin, had he lived) would be that he was just passing through that housing complex after attending a school study group, or the like. The 911 call would have been considered criminal “intimidation of a person of color”.

25. Watched the entire episode in one go. Gripping!.
    Ben Crump’s quite a competent operator.
    Looking forward to a possible debunking of Gilbert’s project, if any. But If I were Ben Crump I would bask in the glory of “the best director of a fantasy” award then drop it and forget the whole thing.
    Of what possible benefit is perusing a dead issue I was already beneficiary of?. None!. MSM is, was . and always shall be on my side. Move on to Minneapolis etc.

26. At the time the Martin case arose, I was following and commenting on a different blog; one which had a substantial and active “progressive” presence.

    Right out of the gate, and before the dust had even settled the leftist commenters were screaming ” racism”, and “child murder”.

    Realizing how incoherent the breathless media storyline was, I did what any rational person would do – and what others did in fact do – which was to go to Google Earth to try and get a map of the complex, and to lay out indisputable or uncontested facts along a timeline. As soon as the police department released the recordings of Zimmerman’s call to them, it became obvious that the establishment-preferred narrative was impossible.

    None of this mattered to the leftists. As images of Trayvon’s thug wannabe life crept out, it made no difference. When it was shown that Trayvon had eluded any attempt by Zimmerman to trail him, and had in fact gotten within feet of home, only to then return to seek out and confront Zimmerman, it did not matter. When it became incontestable, that Trayvon seeking to initiate a violent confrontation had sucker punched Zimmerman to the ground and was bashing his skull on the concrete walkway, it did not matter. Zimmerman, the response went , was guilty of ‘getting in Trayvon’s space’ and should have taken the assault and battery like a man; i.e., passively. The progressive fall-back position eventually became that Zimmerman was guilty of noticing Trayvon lingering between condominiums in the rainy twilight, and Trayvon was offended by it. Therefore Zimmerman deserved to be beaten into a vegetative state for the racist act of noticing. The actual fact of Travon’s real age, his size, his recent forays into thug life, his heavy drug use, and his stated liking for violence, all of which contradicted the ‘angelic child’ line of propaganda, did not matter to them. Even the fact that Travon had initiated the assault by breaking Zimmerman’s nose, and was on top of Zimmerman, engaged in an act of legally unjustified battery likely to inflict grievous bodily harm when he was shot, did not matter to them.

    So, how do you propose to reason with such people? The obvious answer is that you cannot. You can only deal with them. They have as little interest in the facts as they do in reasoning. They know their resentments, and their urges to act upon them; and apparently, for them, that is all they feel it is morally incumbent upon them to know. Everything they emit for public consumption, is just rhetoric intended to construct a behavior inducing narrative. The question of truth never enters into consideration. They are nihilists, par exellence.

    One of the people I was arguing with was a retired chemistry teacher and political activist from Delaware, or RI. He was superficially gregarious and friendly, and invariably attempted to project a tone of reasonableness; ornamenting his comments with various links to mainstream commentary which initially supported his position. As it all fell apart, his opinion changed not a whit. In fact he was the one who suggested Zimmerman’s noticing of Trayvon constituted an offence which intruded into Trayvon’s space, and thus obligated Zimmerman to undergo the assault and take the resultant battery ‘like a man’.

    This friendly retired teacher seemed a puzzle to me: a chemistry teacher who said outright that he did not believe in objective truth; a guy who often put up links tbat were worthless in actually supporting his contentions; a guy who repeatedly called for civility, while simultaneously issuing insults.

    The only real insight I ever got into his character derived from something offhand this friendly atheist political activist once said regarding his rather luxurious house and property – in which he took considerable and obvious pride. In passing, he mentioned that he cut his own lawn. Furthermore, he mentioned that he deliberately timed the starting date for this activity each year for a certain holiday morning, knowing – what fun! – the effect it would have on his neighbors, each and every year, as he ostentatiously powered across his lawn that Easter Sunday. Why sleep in, when you can make an impression on an otherwise traditionally still and peaceful weekend morning?

27. I can’t decide if irrationality is actually increasing among reasonably intelligent and educated people, or if I’ve just been guilty most of my life of assuming that most people are as fanatical about rationality as I am. I even wonder if I’m a little Asperger-ish about it, and failing to take into account that human animals are a solid mix of hind-brain and neo-cortex, one of those nerds who can’t easily recognize the importance of the gut.

    But this stuff is scary. I find myself internally dropping my jaw at the number of times every day I see people taking fairly straightforward information and drawing what seem to me like insane conclusions. I hold a small local office, and I’m trying to get the knack of patiently repeating very, very simple ideas. We’ve got some hot-button issues going on–having to do with finances and transparency, thank goodness, not violence–and the flare-ups happen so fast and so irrationally that it’s frightening. It’s not just the public, either, it’s experienced officeholders with above-average intelligence and education. So weird.

28. BLM is what’s coming. Trayvon and Barack Hussein helped birth it. It is very scary that corporate America is on board, that the NBA has painted BLM on its basketball floors.
    Corporate America senses a steamroller, so we’d better get our heads up!

    Read this, from today’s City Journal, for a fuller history:
    https://www.city-journal.org/marxist-revolutionaries-black-lives-matter

29. DNW. I followed the Duke lacrosse rape hoax and saw the same progression. Or not. No amount of facts changed anybody’s mind. Of people speaking publicly, maybe one I know of–a sports writer–apologized.

    But the case of Katie Rouse, a real Duke student really raped at a real Duke fraternity house….crickets. The admin could barely be bothered to issue a statement, something about wrong place wrong time.

30. Can we go back to the OJ trial for an example of “the facts don’t matter”?

31. No amount of facts changed anybody’s mind.

    They couldn’t change Sally Deutch’s mind. Mostly what the a**hole contingent did was to fall silent and admit nothing. Another crew admitted they were innocent but then launched into diatribes about their character and how they had it coming to them. An example of the latter would be Julie Ponzi of the Claremont Institute, doing her best to do an impression of a particularly vicious version of Margaret Wade from Dennis the Menace.

32. When people become committed to a narrative to support an ideological agenda, the facts cease to matter. They become too invested.

    The left doesn’t care that the Trayvon narrative fell apart and Zimmerman was acting in self-defense, or that the Michael Brown narrative fell apart and Wilson was acting in self-defense, or that the narrative about Brett Kavanaugh being a serial sexual predator fell apart, or that the evidence now shows that the police did not directly cause George Floyd’s death – all they care about is how they can use these stories to advance their goals for sweeping social change.

    Thanks for the video on the Trayvon hoax, though. That’s unbelievable.

33. I don’t have two hours. What was the point of falsifying the witness? The person he was really talking to was too unreliable to use on the stand? They wanted to tell a false story?

34. Kate:

    Sometimes I listen to YouTube videos while cooking or cleaning, because I don’t like to take the time, either. This one is well worth watching or at least listening to.

    But the answer to your question is that no one knows for sure. I am going to write more about it another time, but my brief answer is that for some reason the real person didn’t want to testify. The speculations as to why are as follows: through her phone calls and especially text messages, Gilbert learned that she was involved with both Trayvon and another boyfriend at the same time. He thinks that she wanted to continue going out with the other guy and didn’t want him to find out that she was two-timing him. There is some evidence for that, but it’s not determinative. She also may not have wanted to tell the particular story that the prosecution wanted her to tell, the one that included facts that implicated Zimmerman. The other woman who did testify, Rachel Jeantel, was her half-sister apparently, and seems to have been more willing.

    The real girlfriend actually had an early phone interview which was recorded, and Gilbert got hold of the recording and compared her voice with that of Rachel. Clearly very very different person. No one had caught onto that previously.

35. Thanks, Neo. The girl balking about testifying is an understandable reason — although not acceptable legally.

36. The other woman who did testify, Rachel Jeantel, was her half-sister apparently, and seems to have been more willing.

    She was actually interviewed by Bernardo de la Rionda at the time and a recording of the interview was circulating online. A police blogger I read at the time fisked his questions to her and offered that it was an object lesson in favor of the proposition that prosecutors should stay in their lane and not attempt to interview suspects or witnesses, a task for which their skill set was indifferent preparation.

    I generally trust the police. In re prosecutors, my spidey sense tells me that an irreducible minority are unethical and another bloc are major jerks whose narcissism prevents them from admitting error.

37. Art Deco:

    You write “She was actually interviewed by Bernardo de la Rionda at the time and a recording of the interview was circulating online.” Which “she” are you referring to there? Rachel, who ended up testifying? Or Diamond, the woman Gilbert says was Trayvon’s girlfriend and who did not testify? At the very beginning (the film goes into this) a woman did a radio interview and I believe Crump was part of it. She was supposed to be the last person Trayvon spoke with on the phone. But her voice does not match that of Rachel Jeantel, who testified at the trial as being the last person Trayvon spoke with on the phone. Two different people.

    There was a later interview between Rachel and the prosecutor, I believe, in which he apparently was doing a great deal of leading the witness. Is that the interview you’re talking about?

38. blm should be called out as a domestic terrorist group and if found guilty of crimes should be back in jail from where they came.

39. “Clearly very very different person. No one had caught onto that previously.” – Neo

    No one on Zimmerman’s side caught onto that previously.
    No one in Trayvon’s camp ADMITTED to catching onto that previously.

40. AesopFan:

    Yes.

41. included facts that implicated Zimmerman
    I think you mean “statements that implicated Zimmerman.” Because none of the actual facts ever did.

42. Art Deco on September 2, 2020 at 3:40 pm said:
    In re prosecutors, my spidey sense tells me that an irreducible minority are unethical and another bloc are major jerks whose narcissism prevents them from admitting error.
    Police are much the same, it seems. Though “narcissism” might be better termed “enjoyment of power” in at least some cases.

43. C’mon, girl!

    Sundance @ Conservative Treehouse sounded the clarion in real time when the “White Hispanic” was falsely accused of murder.

    I regret having to promote a competitor on your website but the the investigative reporting of the event there has rich veins to mine.

44. Police are much the same, it seems.

    I’ve seen no indication this is true.

45. Which “she” are you referring to there?

    Rachel Jeantel

46. MALTHUS:

    I wrote plenty of posts about that sort of thing when the event was actually happening. For example, this, this, and plenty more.

    The “Trayvon Hoax” documentary offers some relatively new information to be evaluated. That’s why I’m talking about it now.

47. The Documentary is well worth your time. It is copious, and evinces diligent research. The suggestion that it requires “patience” is unjust and absurd. Don’t be deterred. The producer knew well that he would be subject of nitpicking criticism, so he demonstrated his of his thoroughness diligence. Watch it!.

48. I watched the documentary. The takeaways for me is the way it was nearly impossible to figure out if the girls were related and that Joel Gilbert had a crush on the girl he thought was Trayvon’s GF. I do think Joel is probably right in his theory though.

49. Neo, I’m a lurker who has never commented. I read the book. The reality is, the poor brain dead girl (seriously, like a 5th grade level intellect) who testified and was supposed to be “Diamond” was a 1/2 sister. She totally Effed up the “white hispanic” killed Trayvon narrative, because she wasn’t there at all. He,Gilbert, got DNA from their garbage years later to prove it. Diamond was flirting with Trayvon to make her boyfriend jealous at the time he died. She didn’t want to testify so she had “Mom” give her 1/2 sister the phone w/the texts and got her to testify. Gilbert went though all 750+ pages of Trayvon’s text’s to find it all. Prosecutor’s had their heads in the sand due to politics. Trayvon’s Mom KNEW that the girl who showed up at the deposition wasn’t Diamond. FUBAR

    Sometimes I want to just live in the woods off the grid because of this sh!t

50. “Avi on September 1, 2020 at 6:31 pm said:
    He’s far more Hispanic than Kamala O’Hara is black or Barrie is African American.”

    He (George Zimmerman) also was blacker than Homer Plessy.

51. I get Neo linking to the video, but the book lays it all out. In detail. Get it and read it! You truly see the 3 card Monty the prosecution and that race hustler Ben Crump pulled off – yes same guy defending the Kenosha sexual assaulter that stole 1,000 dollars and her car from the woman who had a restraining order against him who was shot resisting arrest. yeah Crump was totally involved w/Trayvon too.

52. Randy the duck hunter:

    Welcome, former lurker!

    Yes, all that’s in the movie as well. It’s quite a story, but very convincing.

    More convincing than Rachel Jeantel’s testimony was.

    I assume Jeantel was a willing participant, but I still think it was cruel for the prosecution to do that to her.

53. The risks of discovery of a stunt like that, and the costs if you’re caught — disbarment, shame, criminal charges — are so great, that only an insane person would do it. If the documentary and book are correct, Ben Crump is a psychopath.

54. Thanks for posting this. The documentary was very informative. Some critical comments though:
    1) He should not attempt to imitate an African American voice when he reads the texts
    2) I’m not sure what the point of finding a Hatian voodoo priestess was. It took up a chunk of the documentary and had no purpose except, well, Im not really sure what the purpose was.
    3) He made a big deal of getting Brittany to write a bunch of names that were similar to words in the letter. However, the handwriting expert thought the letter itself was written by Francine and not Brittany. It would have been nice had the expert looked at the samples that he got from Brittany and shown that they in fact didn’t match what was in the letter.
    4) I think the politics was too heavy handed and will turn off those who need to see this.
    5) I wonder if there are any legal issues with him dumpster diving for DNA samples.

55. If it’s the Rachel Jeantel thing, it actually came out at the the time of the trial, because they were *caught* doing it… it just didn’t get much press.

56. The risks of discovery of a stunt like that, and the costs if you’re caught — disbarment, shame, criminal charges — are so great, that only an insane person would do it. If the documentary and book are correct, Ben Crump is a psychopath.

    It was Bernardo de la Rionda who elected to use her as a witness. Again, impunity for prosecutors is a baaaad idea.

    I’m guessing it was to muddy the waters. De La Rionda didn’t have any authentic evidence against Zimmerman, so he threw chaff in the jury’s face and tried to hide the ball from the defense (see Jerilyn Merritt on this last point). One of his witnesses gets on the stand and says she thought she saw through her curtains somebody chasing somebody else. No, she couldn’t identify who. (They had an eyewitness with a clear sight line and they had recorded where he dropped his key chain). The prosecutors were dishonest, the media was dishonest, and any liberal who talks about the case says something dishonest.

57. Prosecutor’s had their heads in the sand due to politics.

    Not at all. They worked assiduously to put an innocent man in prison. They did that quite self-consciously, with Bernardo de la Rionda dealing from the bottom of the deck the whole time. Crump, Corey, and de la Rionda are garbage human beings. The character and fitness screen for the Florida bar isn’t worth a pitcher of warm spit.

58. Deoxy:

    No, they were not caught doing “it” during the trial.

    Jeantel’s testimony was criticized a lot, and rightly so, but no one suspected she was not the person Trayvon had spoken to on the phone.

59. The whole case was a tragic farce, emblematic of a broken black culture. Unfortunately, Trayvon Martin’s death is still a cause célèbre on the Left and among many black people. I don’t know whether to laugh or cry.

    Ami blacks think Lincoln was a Democrat.

    Funny, right.

    It’s like a Church killing Jean De Arc and burning her alive at the stake as a something, and then later saying she is a saint and everyone should follow their Church because Jean is their saint.

    If you get killed in a war, you will be voting Leftist 100%.

    They are necromancers, zombies, slaves, and also Antifa/fascist/marxists economically. But that’s just economics. The necromancy is way worse.

    Fortunately, BLM and Antifa have had their C4 hijacked, so to speak, and now they are helping wake up Black Amis to what is really going on.

    21% supporting D Trump? Really, what a surprise.

60. Watch it at 1.25x or 1.5x speed. There are segments that can be skipped through. Use these YouTube tricks:
    1. Space Bar: Toggle start / stop
    2. “L” key to jump ahead 10 secs
    3. “J” key to jump back 10 secs
    4. Right arrow key to jump ahead 5 secs
    5. Left arrow key to jump back 5 secs

    Using these keyboard tools you can watch this in less than 1 hour if you’re willing to focus on it.

61. Lawrence L:

    Good points.

62. ConsrvtveSoCal:

    (1) Yes, that a problem. But I don’t think there was any real solution, because of the nature of the texts themselves. They are written in a modern black texting slang. Even if he read them completely straight with no accent at all, it would sound like he was trying to have one.

    (2) Agreed. That segment was one of the parts I think should have been cut. There are others, but that one stood out as really tangential.

    (3) Another part that might have been cut. But it shows the efforts he made. I wonder whether the book has more detail that makes it more relevant.

    (4) and (5) Agreed.

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