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  1. Lefties, such as Mayor Bill usta’ be Wilhelm or the American Univ student, do not like interacting with people who disagree with them.

  2. With K-12 as well as the universities teaching young people that the history of this country is irredeemably “racist”, and with the mass media fomenting mass hysteria among gullible “true believers” and cultish followers enslaved by falsehoods and propaganda, how many sane and reasonable Americans are left to defend our history, and how many are in any position to resist the tsunami of madness flooding the entire culture?

  3. j e:

    I suppose we’ll find out in November. I fear the answer is: “not enough.”

  4. Someone on Instapundit this morning, I forget who, used the term “Purity Spiral”. Where does it end? I live in Jefferson County, Washington. These ignorant fools will eventually, I would guess, want to change both of those names. I wonder when they will get around to targeting Seattle. Seattle after all is named after a chief that in 1847 led a war of extermination along with S’Klallam (for whom Clallam County is named) against the Chimakum effectively wiping out the tribe, taking the surviving women and children as slaves. Chief Seattle’s son was killed in the final attack.

    In 1855, the S’Klallam agreed to the Treaty of Point-No-Point that required that they release their slaves and not take anymore. The S’Klallam never moved to the Skokomish reservation per the treaty.

    In 1856 the Tlingit from Canada came to Port Gamble on a slave raiding expedition against the Port Gamble S’Klallam but they were defeated by the U.S. Navy and the survivors captured and expelled to Russian Alaska.

    The S’Klallam later got their own reservations (two of them) and claimed the Chimakum were extinct and that since the S’Klallams had occupied their former lands, they were due compensation. The U.S. paid them $400,000.

    The surviving Chimakums are mostly enrolled in the Skokomish or one of the two S’Klallam tribes.

  5. Neo: “This is the kind of New Yorker I remember from my youth. You didn’t mess with them. The young man doesn’t quite know what hit him.”

    Neo, they are still here and still strong. And it doesn’t surprise me that she is from Queens. I kind of suspected that before they said so.

    There is another feisty Queens native like her – his name is Donald Trump!

  6. neo: How could you not mention this movie New Yorker? I can almost believe Paladino was referencing Dustin Hoffman, when she said, “I walk wherever I want.”
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    –Dustin Hoffman, “Midnight Cowboy” — “I’m walkin’ here!”
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c412hqucHKw

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    New Yorkers are something else. It’s a mystery to me how they elected an idiot like de Blasio. There must be a lot of other people living in New York too.

  7. huxley:

    I remember. I never liked that movie.

    The part of NY I grew up in had a lot of people like that woman. And a lot of them were women. Tough cookies.

  8. neo: I was was initially wowed by “Midnight Cowboy” because it was so striking and it featured a world I had no idea about. Later I had my own New York experiences and understood a bit better.

    However, “Midnight Cowboy” was a dispiriting movie, which I haven’t had the stomach to revisit. Still, Jon Voight and Dustin Hoffman were magic in that film.

    I’m quite cheered to see Jon Voight is alive, well, conservative and knocking it out of the park, when he gets some wood on a role.

    Voight is also freakishly good at accents which cheers my weird little heart. (I hate bad movie accents.) You wouldn’t know that Voight was the guy from New York in Cowboy, while Hoffman was from California.
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    –Jon Voight, “Trump Is The Greatest President Anyone Could Ask For, Vote Trump To Keep America”
    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2020/06/27/jon_voight_trump_is_the_greatest_president_anyone_could_ask_for_vote_trump_to_keep_america.html

  9. Neo,
    In response to your comment on my comment yesterday about the Roosevelt statue The decsion to remove the statue has been part of an ongoing debate within the Museum and with NYC since 2017.
    On their web page it says:
    – In 2017, New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio established a commission to evaluate a number of controversial monuments around the city, including the Roosevelt statue, which sits on city-owned land. –
    https://www.amnh.org/exhibitions/addressing-the-theodore-roosevelt-statue

    So the statue’s controversy was debated over a longer period of time than just one eventful week. But it’s complex too. Initially the museum decided to keep it but explain the meaning of the statue and the controversy to the public. That link above links to other pages on the museum’s website that take into consideration differing views on the subject. The tipping point however came this month and they decided to remove it. So it was debated and discussed but at the last minute they reversed their original decision. In this sense I think you are closer to correct on the reasoning [though not Carlson’s reasoning which ignored the facts of the internal debate within the museum]. In short, they caved.

    That said, I like what the young man says in the video that we need to hold the line in regards to our history. I agree. But as I noted this particular statue is not being removed because it’s Roosevelt. Is it all a slippery slope? Probably. I’m not agreeing with the removal so much as explaining the official reasoning that was discussed for three years.

  10. “In 2017, New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio established a commission to evaluate a number of controversial monuments around the city“

    What makes them controversial? That’s the whole point of the discussion/struggle session you willfully avoid. What’s the defining or limiting principle which allows us to justify removing THAT monument but not THIS one.

    In this Roosevelt case, it appears to be entirely because TR is seated on a horse and is flanked by an American Indian and and African/black American standing on the ground. How is that controversial? There’s nothing wrong with how any of the figures are depicted. There’s nothing genuinely objectionable about the monument, its history, or the message it was meant to covey.

    No, this is about people who want to literally remove the statue from any historical and cultural context and, evaluating it solely by the increasingly unhinged racial hysteria of the last decade, condemn a statue of Teddy Roosevelt because it puts him in a more prominent position than other purely symbolic representations. The horrible offense is that Roosevelt is the star of his own monument.

    Let’s ask the question: If the Indian and African figures were also on horseback but slightly behind Roosevelt, would that make it okay? Or would Roosevelt being in the foreground of his own statue still be condemned as “white supremacy?”

    Mike

  11. “Where are you from?”
    “I’m from NYC.”

    Translated: I’m originally not from NYC.

    I think she meant what borough if not what neighborhood of whatever borough you’re from.

  12. So much of what they are doing matches the Nazi party.. as i predicted
    even the idea that they do not realize they are the bad guys
    not because of policy, but because they use power over policy
    they are morons if they did not think the Nazi’s thought that they were not doing the right and good thing for their people… ALL DESPOTS convince themselves of this as they need that for the justification of their going around the people for their own good.

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