Seattle’s mayor is looking forward to the Summer of Love in CHAZlandia
Seattle’s mayor, Jenny Durkan:
Seattle Mayor Jenny Durkan downplayed the six-block autonomous zone in the city on CNN last night after President Donald Trump demanded she restore order to the city.
Durkan claimed the zone is “not an armed takeover” and “more like a block party.”
Yet, the police chief said their “calls for service have more than tripled.” Videos show tension within this zone.
But it’s a block party – a rather large one that encompasses six or seven blocks, but a block party nonetheless. More from Mayor Jenny:
The best part came when Cuomo asked Durkan how long she thinks this will last in Seattle.
Her answer: “I don’t know. We could have the summer of love.”
Video at the link.
Durkan a lot of time railing against Trump; that’s really the most important thing, isn’t it? She also said this:
We will make sure that we can restore this. But we have block parties and the like in this part of Seattle all the time. It’s known for that.
Lest you think Durkan is simply an ignorant stupidhead, she’s nothing of the sort. She went to Catholic schools and graduated from Notre Dame, she’s a lawyer who spent five years as United States Attorney for the Western District of Washington – appointed by Obama, of course – and was a favorite for the post of Obama’s AG when Holder left, although she obviously didn’t get the job.
My point is, this woman is no dummy, and she’s well aware of the law. I doubt she stayed away from Property class. But she’s obviously a leftist (as all Democrats seem to have become), although in Seattle she actually was considered the more conservative establishment candidate for mayor when she ran. That says more about Seattle politics and the choices there than it does about Durkan.
Need I even waste time writing about the differences between what’s going on in the Seattle takeover zone and an actual block party? It’s so obvious that even a child ought to be able to list the differences, but let’s just say this: it doesn’t even matter if they’re just wearing flowers in their hair and happily smoking dope together while eating ice cream and dancing in the park to 60s tunes. That’s not what’s happening, but it doesn’t matter because even if it was, we’re taking about taking over part of a city without the permission of every single person who lives there. There was no process here by which such a takeover is okay. It’s not a street fair that lasts for a day and for which people ordinarily get a permit. There’s a little something called the rule of law, and it’s rather important.
Even Chris Cuomo managed to get out the following question for Durkan. Note the way he says “the counter will be,” disclaiming the question as not actually coming from him but as coming from other people who might try to challenge her wisdom:
Host Chris Cuomo then asked, “The counter will be, block parties don’t take over a municipal building, let alone a police station and destroy it, basically thumbing their nose at any sense of civic control. Do you believe that you have control of your city and that you would be able to clear those streets? Because you haven’t.”
Durkan’s answer is essentially that they’re taking it slow, and of course this:
You know, we’re here because the nation saw Mr. Floyd murdered. And that lit a match across this country. And we have to acknowledge and know that we have a system that is built on systemic racism and we have to dismantle that system piece by piece. We have to empower the black community and communities of color. And we have to invest in their health and their safety and their education and opportunity.” She later added that people are protesting “a system of domination.”
Durkan goes on to talk about protecting the right to protest, as though what’s happening in CHAZ is simply a protest. She hits all the buzzwords here, and her listeners in Seattle will nod in agreement. “Systemic racism” – everyone knows that’s the way it is, right? “Empower” the black community. And “invest in their health and their safety and their education and opportunity” – as though that hasn’t been happening in the 60s. And of course, whatever the flaws in Seattle in these respects, wouldn’t it be the fault of the Democrats who have run the city for something like half a century, and the leftists who have run it in more recent years?
I don’t think Cuomo asked her that question.
As for the “summer of love” – Durkan was about nine years old when that happened. That’s about the mental age her response here reflects. It was a fun time, right?
Sixties nostalgia, Sixties envy, but with a twist: the people in charge are the ones who have it, combined with a populace steeped in leftist instruction and MSM lies and propaganda. The last few weeks, although depressing, have been revealing as to the depth and width of the divide between red and blue America, and what it portends.
I hear they already had to clear barricades to allow the fire department to come extinguish a (literal) dumpster fire. How long before we begin to see the sexual assaults, drug use, and public filth of the Occupy Wall Street days?
Raz of Chaz (the rapper who appears to be in charge) is denying that he is behaving like a warlord, and he is (of course!) suggesting that any and all opposition to his actions must be based on racism. The insurrection may seem to be relatively harmless and even amusing now, but this situation is not likely to end well.
Seattle was lost when Gregoire was elected by 400 votes found in the trunk of a car in 2004. Franken was only a Senator, all they do is talk.
Kate:
It doesn’t even matter how they behave, in the sense that they had no right to take over a portion of the city. They could be establishing something full of peacelove and flowers, or a Mogadishu. Doesn’t matter which in terms of whether they should be allowed to be there. Even if it’s all peacelove in CHAZ, they are not allowed to appropriate part of a city for their own use.
If they want to buy land and set up a commune there, great. If they want to have a street fair at the park, get a permit. Otherwise, a city government needs to establish the rules and protect people’s homes from takeover. Period.
Mike K:
Durkan was the lawyer who argued for the validity of Gregoire’s election in a case mounted by the Republican Party to challenge his win. From Wiki:
The Gregoire election was the famous one where election officials in King County found boxes of ballots behind a voting machine and she magically went from behind Dino Rossi to ahead and victory. It is one of the seminal events in the march leftward of this state.
Neo, I agree entirely. It’s illegal.
Not to sound like Steve Sailer, but this is how white political elites have to talk and behave when they’ve set themselves up as the beyond-race-but-really-super-white saviors of America’s oppressed minorities.
Mike
If Seattle is suffering systemic racism, and if it needs to invest in various aspects of black lives there, why would they go to Democrats for relief? Democrats have been in charge in Seattle for ages. Seems to me if the system needs to be changed, the change should come from replacing Democrats with another party. How hard is that to figure out?
What is an autonomous zone, legally, according to the mayor’s understanding?
Do the laws of the United States apply there? Is one free to exercise all rights and liberties guaranteed to a citizen of the United States, there?
If a fed up resident kills someone trying to appropriate his property or to otherwise interfere with what in the United States, or elsewhere in Washington state, is the lawful exercise of his fundamental right of free association, speech, or mobility, does the same system of law which did not protect the freeholder in need, miraculously provide living jurisdiction for the prosecution of the slayer? Or is that left to the citizens of the autonomous zone?
Frankly, I personally don’t mind these lunatics absolutely alienating themselves. It clears the decks so to speak.
And, if it is no more than brain damaged miscreants hand flapping their way along the boulevards for a time, then I guess, there is no real harm done. Until some armed Chavista, tries flagging your car to a halt in order to requisition it … along with your wallet.
But for those whose lives and property may be put at risk by the rulers of the autonomous zone, it would be helpful to know just exactly whose writ runs where.
Of course, we can all be certain that that is precisely what the organisms of the left will do their very best to ensure remains completely unclear.
There is a Wikipedia page for the 2004 Washington governor election. It was an outrage of the highest order. Rossi led after the original count and the recount then Gregoire magically took the lead on the next recount and of course that was it. Over done.
Dino Rossi would have been a great governor and he wasn’t some far right guy just fiscally minded. The biggest outrage of my adult life in this state until recent times.
“Otherwise, a city government needs to establish the rules and protect people’s homes from takeover. Period.”
But it’s obvious that this particular city in its interpretation of its own rules, doesn’t care about the takeover of other people’s property. We often make jokes about The People’s Republic of…somewhere, but as far as Seattle goes, it’s the literal truth. We’ve lost an entire large, and important US city to the Marxists/communists.
Durkan is obviously not stupid and knows full well this taking of private property is illegal, not to mention holding those who actually live in summer of lovelandia hostage. She is advancing a dangerous agenda, and she don’t care about unintended consequences. After all, anything is okay because orangemanbad.
They wanted the riots to stop and this is how they did it. Now most of the rioters are in this zone. Incredibly stupid and looks horrible and will have long term consequences but this is what you get when you elect idiots. How they get out of this is the real question and one I have heard so many average people around here asking this week.
I also don’t think this is Durkan’s agenda. She is a left wing Democrat not a Socialist/Communist like those on the city council like Shawant and Mosquida but she doesn’t have the skill to navigate this situation so she just gave in. Idiot.
Wait.. waiting is best… doing something will end it early and not be good..
waiting will make it end itself… you cant eat bullets… and they dont get to deliver steaks… food runs out… people without showers get horrid… teeth start to hurt.. hair gets matted… flys show up… you think the ladies are strong enough to make this the stand of the western stalingrad? ha! no way
the dems are playing right in to the hands of the real leadership
they WANT reaction and action… but it wont happen..
the longer it goes, the worse they will look…
patience is the tactic they did not think about…
are the people who live there in trouble? maybe..
but who will bear the brunt of their ire? not trump…
are the kids there ready for weeks of no baths, boring food, moods getting nastier?
doubtful… the longer it goes.. the more it has to organize, the more it organizes, the less free than they were before becomes clearer and clearer..
let them rot…
then hold them financially responsible in civil court..
let the homeowners and those who are angry sue them and their parents
pop goes dat balloon…
So should the CHAZlandians be exempt for WA sales taxes and Seattle property taxes, and the WuFlu health requirements? I would think so Mayor Durkun. Seattle is just providing foreign aid and protection to the emerging CHAZlandia as Tucker Carlson noted. Do they have dual citizenship too?
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Obviously if they were being serious then the fire truck shouldn’t have been allowed in to put out the dumpster fire the other night and all services should be cut off. Why should we provide utilities to another autonomous nation?
But they aren’t serious. Unfortunately the other side is.
I’ve tried to take a mental health break from all this stuff this week because it’s all so depressing and disheartening. Others have talked about the Capitol Hill neighborhood here the last couple of days and I have never lived in Seattle but I used to have to go to this area a couple of times a week and would sometimes eat lunch by the Cal Anderson reflecting pool which is either in CHAZ or right next to it now. It was always leftist but not in an irritating way more a to each their own kind of way and it really was the center of the grunge rock scene of the 1990s. Like I said so disheartening.
Here’s the Big Racist Lie:
“We have to empower the black community and communities of color. And we have to invest in their health and their safety and their education and opportunity.”
Blacks are, today, equally “empowered”, or possibly a bit more. That’s what the Civil Rights Act of 1964 did (empower) and even Affirmative Action (racist a bit against whites).
Allowing folk to act is NOT the same as those folk acting well. Poor black communities have people who have bad behavior. Make bad decisions for themselves, and are careless or criminal against others.
Think of a free person who is taught to read, even if poorly, and is allowed to read any book in a free library – but doesn’t want to read any book. Investing in more books won’t work. More money doesn’t mean more education.
“Making them want to read” — the closest program to do that in the last 40 years was by J.K. Rowling, with the Harry Potter books.
In that respect, allowing movies to be made from those books “ruined” the educational possibility because most poor readers, once they see the movies, don’t need to read the books. And don’t.
And most “investment” in “education” fails to get poor readers to read.
Black folk must want to change enough to change their own behavior, and that of their children, and their lovers.
Black women must demand that their lovers marry them before getting sex. Black men must accept the responsibility of being a father before having children. Every other alternative “culture” will be economically and behaviorally inferior.
The Dems are against any such moralizing, despite it being socially optimal, even without religion.
A new fantasy – the Federal Gov’t could give a reward to married couples of some $2000, payable after their first anniversary and the birth of a child in wedlock (marry the day before the child is born, get cash on first anniversary).
Pure “carrot”, altho those who don’t get it will claim it’s hurting them. Hiring blacks to read children books on YouTube might also help some.
Gregoire’s contested election 2004 was preceded by Maria Cantwell’s closely-contested defeat of Slade Gorton for Senator in 2000. Not quite as close, but much of the same election hanky-panky (i.e. finding mail-in ballots to tip/expand the margin) went on, particularly in King County. At this point, I just assume any statewide election decided by less than 10,000 votes is suspect.
I saw somewhere — maybe here? — in which case I apologize for the redundancy — that the “people” of this “peoples’ republic” found fencing sufficient to erect a fence entirely around the land of the new peoples’ republic. They have armed men staffing entry points to the new entity.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8409067/Trump-says-domestic-terrorists-taken-Seattle-demands-CHAZ-retaken.html
A fence (in this context) by another name is a wall. I thought walls were evil and racist. Stoopid me.
Oh yes: are the armed guards a new ICE? The more things change, the more they stay the same. Except this time, it’s “four legs good, two legs bad.”
Mike K / Griffin: Thanks for bringing up the 2004 Washington election. It’s important to connect dots and build memory.
There’s a Hollywood saying: “No one comes nowhere.” Which is to say, some actor seems to burst upon the scene, but when you investigate you find the actor studied with various people, did small roles, soaps and commercials before finally being noticed.
Likewise places and politics. It might seem Seattle and Minneapolis are unlikely hotbeds of revolution, but they both have radical histories.
huxley (6:12 pm),
“No one comes *from* nowhere,” yes? [smile]
A little quibble that some keep saying is that this is in ‘downtown Seattle’. I just saw this at Powerline and Tucker Carlson has been saying that also. Not sure if anyone here has said that but no one in Seattle would ever refer to this as ‘downtown’. It’s about a mile or so east of downtown. This would NEVER have been allowed in downtown Seattle I feel very confident in that.
“What do you expect it’s Capitol Hill’ was a very common response when this happened.
“No one comes *from* nowhere”?
M J R: Yes.
It’s amazing how you can stare at some words and see what you thought you wrote.
Artfdlger: “..the stand of western stalingrad..” that made me laugh, thanks.
Tom Grey: “.. black men must accept responsibly.. ” & “Black women must demand..” that also made me laugh but not in a good way. Where were you when LBJ launch the Great Society? He laughed as he said “this will keep n1gers voting for us for 200 years.”
Thus, fathers were marginalized. Thus, black out of wedlock births now are at 75%. At 13% of the population black babies murdered in the womb are greater than black births.This was a deliberate ploy to break up the black family, and it worked.
Looking at present day conditions of black Americans, look back at LBJ. Democrats were and are the party of slavery, the KKK, Jim Crow, and keeping blacks on the Democrat plantation to the present day. Democrats have ruled, with a heavy hand, blue state and metropolitan cities for many, many decades. This is what they do, this is what they do. Black lives murdered in the ghettos by other blacks, NBD is blue metros.
Rant off.
huxley (6:21 pm):
“It’s amazing how you can stare at some words and see what you thought you wrote.”
Been there done that bought the tee shirt!
Ah … the Summer of Love. I wasn’t there. I was a 15 year-old kid in a Florida parochial school. So I guess I have Summer of Love envy…
My uncle, a WW2 vet who went hippie, was in San Francisco then and called himself Peter Pan. His lover was, of course, Tinkerbelle, and she occasionally babysat for someone in Janis Joplin’s band.
Peter Pan told me tales of what a magical time that was, but by winter the Haight had collapsed into anarchy fueled by meth and craziness. Pete and Tinkerbelle fled to a country cottage in New Hampshire.
huxley,
Have you ever read about George Harrison and Pattie Boyd’s visit to Haight-Asbury in the summer of ‘67? They were not impressed. Seems closer to one of these gross homeless camps than some ideal.
Read Joan Didion on Haight-Ashbury in Slouching Towards Bethlehem.
I recall reading in some magazine ca 1968 about the transformation of the Haight into a scary place–speed freaks with guns and so forth. And it was a counter-culture-sympathetic magazine.
Have you ever read about George Harrison and Pattie Boyd’s visit to Haight-Asbury
Griffin: Yes indeed! “Not impressed” understates it.
George and Pattie expected beautiful artisans and spiritual types living as turned-on exemplars of LSD enlightenment. Not exactly what they encountered. To be fair, they had made the mistake of taking a solid hit of acid for the experience, then people started following them. Being uncomfortable in a crowd while tripping is horrible, if not terrifying.
According to Pattie:
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We were expecting Haight-Ashbury to be special, a creative and artistic place, filled with Beautiful People, but it was horrible – full of ghastly drop-outs, bums and spotty youths, all out of their brains. Everybody looked stoned – even mothers and babies – and they were so close behind us they were treading on the backs of our heels. It got to the point where we couldn’t stop for fear of being trampled. Then somebody said, ‘Let’s go to Hippie Hill,’ and we crossed the grass, our retinue facing us, as if we were on stage. They looked as us expectantly – as if George was some kind of Messiah.
https://www.beatlesbible.com/1967/08/07/george-harrison-visits-haight-ashbury-san-francisco/
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BTW, Pattie Boyd was the blonde in “A Hard Day’s Night” whom Paul McCartney chats up on the train. George married her, wrote “Something” for her, then lost her to Eric Clapton, who wrote “Layla” for her.
She was Something for sure.
Read Joan Didion on Haight-Ashbury in “Slouching Towards Bethlehem.”
Mac: Absolutely required reading for anyone who wants to understand the 60s.
The 60s people I respect made no bones about what a nightmare the Haight became.
That an vacuous MSM hack like Chris Cuomo actually pushed vacuous progressive hack “Mayor Jenny” as far as he did is astonishing. Our expectations are very low at this point.
As to Mayor Jenny’s response…. completely fatuous lefty pablum. One expects nothing else. She’s an apparatchik and knows when to toe the line.
As an aside…the “block party” narrative is already infesting social media. I’m seeing posts of a whimsical Potemkin Village of CHAZ. No mention of Raz, Antifa or the takeover of the police station, of course
Artfldgr,
Let’s hope Trump and the Feds follow your advice and logic and stay out of it. Don’t give them a chance at martyrdom. Let the whole world watch their decent into the chaos they (the CHAZ’ians) so adamantly hope for.
Huxley,
Yes, not only did Clapton write ‘Layla’ about Boyd he also wrote ‘Wonderful Tonight’ about her which is a song that manages to be romantic and very pathetic at the same time.
Griffin: True. Harrison also wrote “If I Needed Somebody” for her.
I was trying to keep to the high points. “Layla” and “Something” are perhaps the two highest peaks of classic rock love songs.
There must be competition, but none that comes to mind at the moment.
Huxley,
Staying in the Beatles sphere I would put ‘Here, There and Everywhere’ high up there and also McCartney’s ‘Maybe I’m Amazed’ would be a contender.
So unbelievably disheartening.
Will we be able to overcome all the insanity? I am not certain we can at this point.
Here’s Peter Fonda, as slippery record producer, Terry Valentine, in Soderberg’s neo-noir film “The Limey,” explaining the sixties:
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Terry Valentine: Did you ever dream about a place you never really recall being to before? A place that maybe only exists in your imagination? Some place far away, half remembered when you wake up. When you were there, though, you knew the language. You knew your way around. *That* was the sixties.
[pause]
Terry Valentine: No. It wasn’t that either. It was just ’66 and early ’67. That’s all there was.
–“The Limey (4/11) Movie CLIP – The Sixties (1999) HD”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2G-BNvZvz8I
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Wonderful, under-rated film. Fonda’s performance IMO refutes anyone who wishes to dismiss his acting ability.
According to the director’s commentary, Fonda improvised cleaning his teeth for the scene on the spot.
Fonda’s girlfriend: I like the colors [of a sixties poster on the wall].
Fonda: We all did.
Staying in the Beatles sphere I would put ‘Here, There and Everywhere’ high up there and also McCartney’s ‘Maybe I’m Amazed’ would be a contender.
Griffin: I thought of “Maybe I’m Amazed” and it’s close. It shares the OMG-I’m-so-in-love with the other two.
Lennon had his Yoko songs but they were never quite persuasive. “I Want You (She’s So Heavy)” only made me wonder why the song stopped abruptly.
Huxley
The 60s people I respect made no bones about what a nightmare the Haight became.
My memory of the Haight is from 1969. A Czechoslovakian couple, dressed according to white-collar standards of the day, were visiting the Haight. They had left Czechoslovakia after the Soviet tanks took over in 1968. They were listening to some longhair talking about it being his right to have long hair blah blah blah. Being a longhair myself, and also recently having been beaten up in Amarillo for having long hair, I agreed with the longhair. Nonetheless, his argument was rather vapid compared to what the Czechoslovakian couple could state about living under a totalitarian regime.
I decided that Berserkeley was a better place to be than the Haight.
Huxley,
Yeah Lennon’s love songs lacked the sentimentality of McCartney. ‘Don’t Let Me Down’ would be another. Sadly his best love songs came at the end. ‘Starting Over’ and ‘Woman’ are very good even if they are not traditional love songs.
The love song in classic rock is an elusive animal. George Harrison once asked Page and Plant why Zeppelin didn’t have any ballads. The Stones had a few ‘Wild Horses’ and ‘Angie’ among others.
Griffin: I thought of “Wild Horses” too — the Stones have several wonderful ballads — but WH started, as I recall, as a Keith song for his baby son, Marlon. “Angie” is great, but sad.
Zep has one disappointed love ballad, “Going to California,” which Plant wrote in part for Joni Mitchell. Doesn’t fit the bill of a love-love-love song, though.
Joni has some good love songs, but they are all conflicted.
Huxley,
‘God Only Knows’ by The Beach Boys. Brian Wilson’s masterpiece and the direct inspiration for McCartney to write ‘Here, There and Everywhere’. The vocals only version was amazing.
Griffin: We’re definitely on the same track here! I thought of the Beach Boys too. “God Only Knows” and “Wouldn’t It Be Nice” (though a light song, one of my faves.)
Rebecca Pidgeon, David Mamet’s wife and an actress in some of his films, started as a singer and has tried to get her singing career going again, though with little success, even with all her LA connections.
–Rebecca Pidgeon, “Wouldn’t it be Nice”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3lvcWbeN-I
How about “The Association’s” “Cherish”? It also came out in 1966. Unconflicted. Except it feels sad, in that I can’t believe he’s going to get that girl by worshiping her.
Seattle’s mayor is promoting the new Democrat Talking Point — I’m sure she got the memo —
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2020/06/09/biden-campaign-director-james-clyburn-says-dont-believe-your-eyes-there-was-no-violence-looting-riots-arson-or-police-attacks-in-washington-dc-last-week/
Huxley,
‘Cherish’ is great. The harmony vocals are so beautiful.
Another unconventional ballad in that it’s not about a romantic loss but about the loss of a band mate is ‘Wish You Were Here’ by Pink Floyd.
I like Tucker Carlson’s approach to this. He’s coming at with a mocking seriousness. Mockery is a powerful weapon.
He is also referring to them as CHAZistanis which is hilarious. Maybe they should change the name of their state to Chazistan. It works for the dozen other Stans in the world.
Rufus T. Firefly on June 12, 2020 at 9:09 pm said: lets hope…
yes.. because when you step in and “do something” everyone fantasizes erroneously as to what it could have been, not what it would have been…
Let them know, do not end it early, let it die in its own waste and discordant actions
there is really no need to act because such a troop cant maintain order without eventually and quickly sinking even farther down dark rat holes of behavior and force… malcontents who do not want to work will not make a decent army, destruction is easy, construction is another matter.
communes fall apart because eventually work needs to be done
not the quick and dirty work that was fun as part of the start
but the boring, slow, and all too familiar work of any large group needing order
who will lead? which faction will dominate? what will they do with the malcontents? where will they get food? where will they get medical care?
where will they get soap…
unlike walking dead episodes, the stuff people depend on to be comfortable, runs out very fast… even faster when people arent allowed to bring whole trucks of food in… look at their numbers, how many days do you think that crowd can go without their petulant needs being met?
if they are an external state, they have no right making demands..
if they are not, then they cant make demands from a hostage situation
they are stuck… and all it will take is time for them to realize it
time for reality to ooze into the whole of it…
wait long enough and they will beg to be arrested so they can shower, eat a decent meal and sleep…
so much of societies mechanics they took for granted..
without ever really thinking what makes clean sheets
Francesca on June 12, 2020 at 9:48 pm said:
So unbelievably disheartening.
Will we be able to overcome all the insanity? I am not certain we can at this point.
There is nothing to overcome
Insanity will overcome itself…
these people do not have the distribution of skills needed to maintain insanity long… thats the beauty of insanity…
“highest peaks of classic rock love songs.”
There were *so* many beautiful and affecting songs recorded in the 1960s. But the one that touched me the most deeply, and I think speaks to all of us today, is “They’re Coming to Take Me Away Ha Haaa”.
Babylon Bee is not a parody site anymore.
https://babylonbee.com/news/seattle-protesters-abolish-police-replace-with-squads-of-armed-officers-tasked-with-enforcing-set-of-agreed-upon-rules
“communes fall apart because eventually work needs to be done” – Artfldgr
All you said is very true (and, once again, poetically framed).
“so much of societies mechanics they took for granted..
without ever really thinking what makes clean sheets”
huxley – “Cherish” is one of my favorites; I don’t think of it as worshiping so much as appreciating. It links, for me, to the song from “I Do, I Do” called “My Cup Runneth Over With Love” and (oddly perhaps), Fiddler’s “Do You Love Me?”
As for “Peter Pan in Haight-land” — very few people have actually read Barrie’s play, and the book he based on it. Mostly we only know the Disney version. The original Peter was a nasty piece of work, and his tyranny over the Lost Boys not far removed from Lord of the Flies.
https://unrealfacts.com/peter-pan-killed-lost-boys-original-book/
“This is of course our own interpretation of the text. The author, J M Barrie, never explicitly reveals what “thin them out” means. It could actually mean that he sends them packing, but it doesn’t really fit in with the darker theme of Peter’s personality.”
Wikipedia claims Barrie has Peter banish the growing boys to Nowhereland, which is never explained or explored — in a fictional world, that could be the equivalent of killing them off.
And, as that post’s author says, “..wait until you read about Pinocchio.”
Mary Poppins was another literary character also much changed from the book to the Disney film. She was not a nice person.
“Bambi” was no walk in the park either.
Children’s books were somewhat sterner in the old days — they weren’t raising snowflakes.
I am very much a fan of Never My Love. The Association knew harmony!
huxley,
“… has tried to get her singing career going again, though with little success, even with all her LA connections.”
The fact that her husband came out as a Conservative (or, at least a very clear thinking, free speech loving, non-Progressive) may have something to do with her difficulties in finding work. I recommend David Mamet’s, “The Secret Knowledge,” his memoir of his political journey. I think neo has written about it on this site.
artfldgr,
All you mention needs to play out and be seen by the world, but also, the inevitable lawsuits from the businesses within that will be economically strangled through no choice of their own. Force the Mayor to deal with this. Force her to administer her Utopian dream.
I absolutely agree with those who are promoting humor as a very effective anecdote to some of this awfulness. I didn’t choose Rufus T. Firefly from “Duck Soup” as my avatar by chance. Don’t treat these people seriously and mock the immaturity and lunacy of their ideals. As the parent of young adults I can tell you the memes and posts folks do satirizing these causes has a big impact on young minds.
Sunlight and humor are the best, and least violent, least harmful purgatives for political idiocy. Superman helped to defeat the KKK without a shot being fired; https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/23157/how-superman-defeated-ku-klux-klan
The fact that [Rebecca Pidgeon’s] husband [David Mamet] came out as a Conservative (or, at least a very clear thinking, free speech loving, non-Progressive) may have something to do with her difficulties in finding work.
Rufus T. Firefly: That’s a reasonable guess except that Mamet didn’t come out conservative until 2008 and Pidgeon released her first comeback album in 1994.
IMO Pidgeon’s problem is that no one knows what Rebecca Pidgeon music is — beyond tasteful, pure vocals with exquisite production. One of her albums was used to showcase high-end audiophile equipment. Her albums jump around from folk to pop to jazzy rock.
Here’s the title cut from her album, “Tough on Crime” (2005) produced by Joni Mitchell’s husband, Larry Klein, with primo studio musicians like Walter Becker (Steely Dan) and Billy Preston.
–Rebecca Pidgeon, “Tough on Crime”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TpNv9fh–o
I do recommend Pidgeon’s Mamet films, “The Spanish Prisoner” (with Steve Martin playing serious against type) and “Heist” (with a great Gene Hackman performance).
Both are thinking genre pieces, which would go over with commenters here.
Pidgeon also played a military wife in Mamet’s TV series, “The Unit.”
huxley,
I can definitely hear the Steely Dan influence on that recording, which, for me, is a major compliment. In a similar vein, have you heard of Lorraine Feather? I stumbled onto her a few months ago and can’t believe I had never heard of her before.
If I remember correctly, too many links gets a comment here unposted, so I’ll post three songs in three comments.
huxley,
This is the Lorraine Feather song I heard on the radio that spurred me to research her career and oeuvre.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-LMO6dFgUU&list=OLAK5uy_lUjwCogAO4dYpP6YTaHMW2cQCU5G_5fCY&index=1
It’s a really cool song, but certainly not something you’d dance to. I’ll post two more that are more “mainstream.”
Fun, bossa nova beat Lorraine Feather song “Where are My Keys?”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QF8FOu8uYnY
I played this for one of my kids and she instantly recognized that it seems to be written about her mother, my wife. So we both played it for my wife and she almost died from laughing embarrassedly!
Lorraine Feather, “I Forgot to have Children.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tb4o0o6AE50
SCOTTtheBADGER on June 13, 2020 at 7:43 am said:
I am very much a fan of Never My Love. The Association knew harmony!
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Thanks for the reminder of another old favorite – looking them up on YouTube!
Refreshed my memory at Wikipedia – they sang beautiful romantic songs with lovely harmony, but only had 3 real hits during their very fluctuating career as a group.
However, that’s kind of like saying Margaret Mitchell and Harper Lee each only wrote one book.
“Three songs by the Association have sold over one million copies and have been certified platinum discs: “Cherish”, “Windy”, and “Never My Love”.”
Sorry, one more. I think all here will appreciate the lyrics and sentiment in this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rkYiYPKKlQ
AesopFan and SCOTTtheBADGER:
I thought “Along Comes Mary” was their big hit. That was the one I liked the best, anyway.
Rufus T. Firefly: Lorraine Feather has quite a pedigree. According to wiki.
A native of Manhattan, she was born to jazz writer Leonard Feather and his wife Jane, a former big band singer. She was named Billie Jane Lee Lorraine for her godmother Billie Holiday, her mother’s former roommate Peggy Lee, and for the song “Sweet Lorraine”.
I listened to the first. She’s quite a technician, but I’m not connecting emotionally so I’ll see how the others go.
I thought “Along Comes Mary” was their big hit. That was the one I liked the best, anyway. –neo
It certainly was the other big hit and I liked it too.
PS. The songwriter, Tandyn Aylmer (not a member of the group), was the eccentric genius type.
Some say the song was about marijuana. Others not. However, Aylmer did invent a water-pipe, which “The Children’s Garden of Grass” assessed as “the perfect bong.”
As I recall, Althouse did an amusing post on Aylmer after his death in 2013.
huxley,
Regarding her pedigree and long history as a singer I was simply amazed I had never heard her, nor heard of her, until recently. I agree she’s not for everyone. Her lyrics are very clever and many of her songs have offbeat tempos and unusual chord structures.
Regarding an emotional connection to her, for me it’s whimsy. I find her songs and style fun.
“Along Comes Mary” was their first release to become a hit (1966).
The 3 platinum golden oldies came that year and the next.
They seem to have peaked in just the first couple of years, and were never top-tier again, although the band with varying members stayed on the concert circuit for quite a while.
I knew none of this until looking it up, of course, and I don’t remember even hearing “Mary” at the time — it just didn’t speak to me, despite the band’s virtuosity — but the others were definitely on my favorites list.
Here’s a live recording of “Mary” and others, on the Smothers Brothers Show (which I watched avidly back in the day).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iq5bUnvKq94
Fun fact from Wikipedia:
“In the Young People’s Concert titled What Is a Mode? Leonard Bernstein explained that the song was composed in the Dorian mode.[5]”
Big news today from CHAZistan. It may be no more as it may now be CHOP standing for Capitol Hill Occupied Protest or maybe Capitol Hill Organized Protest.
So as the citizens decide we may have to go by CHAZ/CHOP.
Well, as usual, in catching up from a few days away, I comment on the earlier post instead of the more relevant later post. See my comment on https://www.thenewneo.com/2020/06/11/the-takeover-of-capitol-hill-in-seattle-just-one-big-happy-family-according-to-ap/#comment-2501185 .
Bryan,
I’ve been following Jason Rantz on Twitter about this. He thinks the whole thing is ridiculous but is pretty fair in his reporting on CHAZ/CHOP. But he has pointed out some dodgy behavior also.
Your description of Capitol Hill’s evolution over the years is right on. I used to go there regularly in 90s early 00s and it was colorful but mostly harmless.
I am gong to post this on several threads here. I apologize in advance, and I hope this does not upset our gracious, vivacious and perspicacious hostess, Neo. I’m posting it on multiple threads in hopes it gets seen by many, but if you want to comment on the topic, please do so on the “Musical Interlude” post, so we can keep our thoughts in one place.
Yesterday (two days ago?) in one of the threads about our current political situation one of you (MBunge?) made a statement that cutting off funding to companies working to eliminate our rights is critical to fighting this scourge. I wholeheartedly agree, and there was some continued discussion in the comments on how to coordinate the effort.
Since it’s such an obvious and good idea (no offense to MBunge{?}, but I’ve had the thought myself, many times, as I’m certain we all have), I was fairly certain several organizations must already be doing this on the web. With a bit of research today I found this site, https://www.opensecrets.org/industries/indus.php?ind=C2200
This seems to be a very good start. The link goes to their page on Cable & Satellite TV Production, but you’ll notice the search boxes in the right margin. Choose a drop down there and hit the magnifying glass and research any industry you prefer.
Does anyone know anything about this organization, and whether they are fair? Their mission statement on their “About” page sounds good, and the data I looked at seems to be in-line with what I’ve seen in other publications. If this is a reliable resource, let’s spread the word and start taking action.
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