Antifa and their enablers in the press
Lara Logan is not one of the enablers. Please watch:
Perhaps Antifa’s most clever move is its name, which is explained as meaning “anti-fascist.” Orwell would be very very proud. A group or groups claimed to be Antifa’s antecedents may have started during the actual Fascist era in Germany and Italy, but the modern version surfs off the name to create an impression that is quite different from the truth.
“Fascist” had already become an all-purpose word to refer to whatever people don’t like, anyway. So these days the left and the MSM use it to refer to the right in the US. It’s absurd for many reasons, one of which is that the US right stands for small government rather than large. But the left and the MSM and the anti-Trumpers and the Democrats (have I left anyone out?) count on ignorance of history in its listeners, and so “fascist” and “nazis” it is.
Once Trump and the right have been falsely labeled as such – as well as “white supremacists” – the stage is set for lauding and/or excusing the excesses of Antifa as forgivable because, after all, they are just fighting fascism and white supremacy. Who wouldn’t want to do that?
And so we get a bunch of puff pieces such as, just to take one that came up when I Googled, this from the BBC:
Mark Bray, author of Antifa: The Anti-Fascist Handbook, says the modern American Antifa movement began in the 1980s with a group called Anti-Racist Action. Its members confronted neo-Nazi skinheads at punk gigs in the American Midwest and elsewhere. By the early 2000s the Antifa movement was mostly dormant – until the rise of Donald Trump and the alt-right…
What are they opposed to?
Neo-Nazis, Neo-fascism, white supremacists and racism, and these days the movement that encapsulates some of those ideas: the alt-right.
We spoke to secret Antifa groups in Oregon. They said they come from a variety of political backgrounds but they were united in their opposition to fascism, and they have an anti-government streak. They said they see creeping authoritarianism in the current American administration that they are looking to build “a movement that really insulates us from the policies of Donald Trump”.
So they’re just a bunch of good people fighting Trump and his merry band of white supremacists. It goes unmentioned how small that latter group is, and how Trump and the rest have condemned it, because the MSM doesn’t want to give that impression.
The piece goes on:
Their willingness to use violence marks out Antifa from many other left-wing activists, although the Antifa members we spoke to said they denounce the use of weapons and violent direct action. They said if violence does occur, it’s as a form of self-defence. They also make historical arguments to justify their position. For instance, they ask, what if opponents of the German Nazi Party had been more forceful in their opposition in the 1930s, could World War Two and the Holocaust have been averted?
Antifa have been directly and sometimes physically confronting the far right on the streets…
That’s about as negative as it gets.
In all that propaganda from Antifa there is one very telling phrase of truth: “they have an anti-government streak.” Boy, do they ever. In fact, they are anarchists, a word that is descriptive of the group but only comes up once in that entire article, in this context: “Like other protest movements dating back to Cold War era West German anarchists, Antifa supporters will often dress all in black…” The casual reader could be forgiven for assuming that only in Germany during the Cold War were the current Antifa’s predecessors anarchists (if the reader even knows what the word means). But anarchists are exactly what the group is today.
What are anarchists? Well, since they’re anarchists, they have a lot of different beliefs, and there are anarchists of the left and of the right but the divisions are hard to fathom because the entire thing is hard to fathom. But roughly, Antifa are anarchists of the left (see this). What unites anarchists in general is a desire to destroy central governments, but that’s only the beginning. As such, Antifa in the US is very interested in stirring up trouble and doing anything they think will weaken the Trump administration, but their goals are much larger than that.
See this, for example; Antifa has had a large presence in the liberal/left Northwest for several years:
Antifa has never had to hide in Seattle, Portland or the rest of the West Coast. When the news media is forced to mention them at all, they obligingly call them “anti-fascists”, which, this week, useful idiots have been touting on Twitter as proof that being against Antifa means one is for fascism, to which I have replied, “why are you against ‘Making America Great Again?”
In notoriously anti-Second Amendment Seattle, Antifa open-carried. They commandeered a couple of blocks, as their “security arm”, the John Brown Gun Glub, prevented citizen journalist, and expert on Antifa and its funders, Andy Ngo, from filming the goings on. The Seattle media was incurious…
Portland, Oregon, has at times been owned by Antifa. They controlled the comings and goings of cars an people, which the Mayor of Portland, Ted Wheeler, allowed. A decision upon which he doubled-down.
At various times on my radio program, I read from Facebook pages of Antifa groups about their paramilitary trainings to be held in Seattle parks: how to make IEDs; how to hide spears in the handles of protest signs; the use of marbles to trip (and probably fatally injure) police horses and their riders. The rest of the Seattle media was not drawn to the stories.
On July 13, 2019 at 4:30 AM, I thought Antifa had erred by outing themselves as dangerous Marxists bent on attacking our Country. One of their soldiers, from the related “security” arm, the John Brown Gun Club, attempted to murder federal agents at an ICE Detention facility in Tacoma, South of Seattle in Washington State. An ICE Spokesman noted, had the terror attack been successful at blowing up the building, 1,400 people would have been murdered.
One would imagine this would alarm the media and the government–not so. In Seattle, and much of the West Coast, this attack is still viewed as a righteous act of self-defense against an agency politicians vilify.
See also this:
This is dangerous.
Socialist Seattle Councilmember Tammy Morales defending the weekend violence, telling her comrades on the Council:
"I don't want to hear is for our constituents to be told to be civil, not to be reactionary, to be told looting doesn't solve anything." pic.twitter.com/NVUBfYVrwS
— (((Jason Rantz))) on KTTH Radio (@jasonrantz) June 2, 2020
The people of Antifa could be shut down fairly easily if they weren’t idealized, covered up, and romanticized, by other people playing a stupid, ignorant, dangerous, dreamy game – or who are in league with them. And such people are legion in blue strongholds these days.
More:
As NBC News in New York noted, the attacks being carried out on American cities are sophisticated; they have logistics, supply chain, intelligence operations and medical supply and aid groups. They learned their techniques on our streets, tested them on our citizens and now, they are employing them against the United States of America, along with drug addiction, sex trafficking, illegal immigration and pornography: another gift to the Country from the one-party West Coast. How can you protect you and your communities?
These groups are not going to stop, they will have to be stopped. Make sure office holders and politicians you support will work to end Antifa and the militant arm of Black Lives Matter as terrorist groups.
Remember the Bernie bro caught on tape by O’Keefe? If not, let me refresh your memory:
A Project Veritas video released Tuesday showed a man identified as a campaign organizer for Democratic presidential hopeful Sen. Bernard Sanders saying “cities burn” if President Trump wins reelection and predicting violence against police at the 2020 Democratic National Convention in Milwaukee.
Asked what would happen if Mr. Trump is reelected, the man described as Sanders campaign field organizer Kyle Jurek said, “F–ing cities burn,” adding, “I mean, we don’t have a lot of time left, we have to save
f–ing human civilization.”…[H]e also expressed support for ideological reeducation Trump voters; compared such Americans to Nazis; praised Soviet-style gulags; and predicted police would be “beaten” in riots at the party convention.
They found an opportunity prior to the convention, in the Floyd death at the hands of police in Minneapolis. But they were already prepared with the playbook, the supplies, and the organization.
““Fascist” had already become an all-purpose word to refer to whatever people don’t like, anyway.”
Acknowledging this is somewhat off topic and beating a favorite dead horse, but this is why Jonah Goldberg’s “Liberal Fascism” was so atrocious. Yes, I understand that it brought up a lot of liberal/progressive history that the Left would like to forget about but it was an ultimately childish whine of “I know you are but what am I” or “I’m rubber, you’re glue. Whatever you say bounces off me and sticks to you.” And as we can see, it accomplished nothing.
Mike
The false pieties disgust me.
Today I’m really starting to see an influx of emails from businesses I have history with assuring me of how sensitive they are about the problem of racism. I hit Delete instantly.
I made a foray onto Facebook where I saw that a former coworker wrote tearfully about how difficult it was to tell the kids how racist America is.
A cop with a long history of similar infractions went too far and killed someone in custody; he was arrested and charged accordingly.
That makes you and your kid cry.
But you couldn’t give a sh1t about innocent people who never did anything to anyone who have lost their businesses, or how, night after night, people – particularly those who live near potential targets like malls, but certainly, random citizens everywhere – are worried that tonight is the night that the lunatics decide to make good on their threats to rampage through neighborhoods.
This causes a basically decent human being such as myself to no longer give a sh1t about this person and his/her brainwashed offspring. If the lunatics get to your house first, I want to say, don’t call me. And hey, if you hate cops so much, don’t call them either.
This is, truly, how civil wars start.
Why don’t the authorities turn off the electric power grid and cell-phone towers where there is rioting? Give the cops some IR goggles so they can see while the rioters cannot. Tell them to move in and make arrests. The rioters will then try to purchase massive amounts of their own IR equipment, so be ready to track those purchases and find out who is funding this.
How will Tammy Morales excuse Antifa if they show up on the door step of her home and loot it? Will she be able to justify the destruction to herself?
Our brain dead AG, Maura Healy, made the oh so cute and smug statement that “forests have to burn to regenerate”. Maura, can we come over to your house with marshmallows, chocolate, and graham crackers to make smores while we all stand around while your “forest” burns?
These women are so removed from reality and having the imagination of a box of wet cardboard that it is inconceivable to them that there could be any dangerous consequences to what they are saying. Fools.
Paul in Boston:
Or knaves.
KyndyllG:
It is possible that some of those people and some of those companies are virtue-signaling in hopes that the crocodile will eat them last.
for those who have not yet noted the derivation of the Antifa flag: it comes from the German Communist party from 1932. And remember, Communists and Fascists—two sides of the same coin.
http://10-63.com/2017/08/antifa-flag-origins-german-communist-party/
O/T: I don’t when its happening or if we missed it already but Instapundit has a link saying that Obama plans on addressing the nation today.
If anything could possibly add to the unrest, I imagine a former POTUS speaking to his useful idiots, ostensibly to “heal” but really to encourage them, that might do it.
It has that old time coup d’etat feel.
Neo: Maura Healy is a Massachusetts Democrat politician, she’s automatically a knave.
And never one to miss a beat:
https://legalinsurrection.com/2020/06/ny-times-blame-tear-gas-not-rioters-and-looters-if-theres-new-coronavirus-outbreak/
I think that with this one, they got two boids with one stone.
Hot on the collar of “The Babylon Bee” for the “Paper of Record” Olympics.
Fractal Rabbit:
How Obama-esque. The Great Healer. Maybe he can get Reverend Wright to stand next to him.
The local shopping area, Friendship Heights in DC, half a mile from my house, was thoroughly looted Sat. and Sun. nights — nowhere near any protests, or for that matter any poor youths (the *median* income in the zip code is $158,000). A Twitter search showed lots of coordination and glee in the prospect of ransacking shops, and Twitter somehow was fine with that.
Monday morning the neighborhood was thoroughly posted with signs:
“If you have white or white-passing privilege, your job is to use it — that means giving up your money/time/power to create safer spaces and opportunities for others.”
“You are contributing to killing black people by not stopping the killing of black people.”
“White people built the system of racism in America. It is your job to dismantle it. Beware of your privilege and use it for good.”
Comic on a college campus to some, perhaps. But notwithstanding that they were probably placed there by some Ivy League-product of the neighborhood, scary in the context of the looted stores.
Now the charming neighbors on our street are working overtime with competitive displays of being with the program: we are asked to “Say their Names” by placing the name of a victim of police violence our windows, and at 7 pm they will all go into the street to “take a knee.”
I will not be participating — will my absence be marked? Do I have to fear more than cold shoulders, given that, by the definition of the signs, I am “contributing to the killing of black people”?
My husband and I plan to sell our house asap, and get out. I fear we may need to find another country.
KyndyllG … my sentiments exactly. In our little town in Nor Cal there is a single woman standing everyday on the corner with a BLM sign. For what. I have not spoken to one person that in any shape or form condones the murder of Mr.Floyd.
Next week she will be sitting by her pool and sipping her Starbucks coffee, feeling high and mighty when if she really wanted to make a difference she might try flying to Chi-town where 60 young black kids blow each other away each month. That is truly sad and I am not making a comment on the black population there. They deserve justice and peace and their lives matter also but no one cares.
White Supremacist. What a hoot. I commented somewhere, hope it wasn’t here already, that any group of two or more that are suspected of being “WS” have been spied on more intensely than even the Trump team. My guess is that the FBI has a log of when each one defecates.
Woman on a local community forum was defending BLM and ANTIFA. She supposedly had a previous affiliation to BLM through a supportive foundation, and says they do “good stuff”. (Don’t ever say “Every life Matters”. It is disrespectful, and an NBA announcer was just fired for suggesting as much.) The woman also said that ANTIFA just stood for anti-Fascist, and they were working against the bad guys. Who knew? But, she claimed that the bad guys often did bad stuff and blamed the innocent ANTIFA. Sadly, many clueless SoCal suburbanites bought her pitch. I did mention that ANTIFA more closely resemble the historic Brown Shirts; but doubt that they recognized the analogy.
I have been waiting for the great American middle to get fed up, and rise up to smite those who would destroy our society; but, have concluded that it just won’t happen.
Off topic. Another term that drives me up the wall is “systemic racism”. Maybe someone will take a shot of explaining how that term is relevant as a result of the Minneapolis incident. Last I checked, the Chief of the Minneapolis Police was Black. The AG of Minnesota is Black.The Congresswoman representing Minneapolis is Black. The Mayor of the sister city of St Paul, which was caught up in the turmoil, is Black.
Again, I commented elsewhere that I doubt that any society has worked so hard as this one to overcome the vestiges of African slavery. (Differentiating from other historic instances of slavery.) Many benefited from the practice; but, in the case of the Europeans, for instance, it was in the colonies. When the colonial era ended they essentially packed up and left the debris behind. The U.S. has struggled with mixed success to assimilate the huge under class we inherited; and the effort for the past fifty years has been monumental. Just saying.
KyndyllG — “This is, truly, how civil wars start.”
Fractal — Obama the Sainted Magick Negro Speaks, yeah, I saw that at newsammo.com, “It has that old time coup d’etat feel.”
And together with George W Bush speaking up, FINALLY, out to surrender Truth, Justice, and the American Way, could the line up of treason monkeys make the United War against Trump and the middle-class get any clearer?
We’re watching…something Historic, that’s for sure.
TJ:
During all those years when Obama was president, George W. Bush maintained a silence, no matter what Obama did. Bush was acting in the mold of previous presidents, who stayed out of it.
So, now George finds his tongue?
not surfing.. same group… same leaders…
we just dont know it… so we assume otherwise..
same symbols same communist anarchy
after reading this (again?)
you may get the language change is old… not new, not slander as everyone explains… but the same very old thing of the KPD… Stalinists… it applies to all other parties… just like now
and if you wonder why they attack in democrat areas, they are attacking centre-left social democrats… duh… same old thing… just like now..
like the people from the SDS they never went away.. you can trace the unbroken threads… Antonia Grunenberg is the one that claims they have no connection now to that past… convenient.. no?
“a German political scientist, totalitarianism researcher and an expert on the political thought of Hannah Arendt.”
Imagine being a person who is an expert on someone elses thoughts?
see: Antifaschismus – ein deutscher Mythos
[Anti-fascism – a German myth]
so you can see they cherry picked that lie..
The basis for German anti-Fascism was the Comintern’s definition of Fascism in 1935, which went far beyond the classical characterization of Italy and Nazi Germany as fascist states, and made it possible to stigmatize almost any non-communist political orientation as “fascist.” On this very meager theoretical basis Fascism, as the most radical form of imperialistic monopoly capitalism, was—for the regime of the GDR, too—not specifically a German phenomenon, but only one stage, albeit a terrible one, in the march of history towards Communism.
that darn commiterm again..
but that’s it.. i am tired of no one paying attention before
just think how far ahead you would be now..
see: The Anti-Fascist Myth of the German Democratic Republic and Its Decline after 1989
If you’re a nerd, this historical essay on Fascism is excellent.
Hitler was a Nazi, Stalin was a Commie.
Benito Mussolini was a Fascist. He shut down the legislature and used gov’t bureaus to run the country. Kind of like how Congress passes a general law “Make the Air and Water Clean” then the EPA and other agencies write thousands of pages of regs to implement the vague policy. Later, the HoRs and Senators complain that unelected bureaucrats are running things.
I’ve seen others praise this essay in neo-comments, I concur (if you’re nerdy LOL). Here’s a link–
https://claremontreviewofbooks.com/the-original-fascist/
Old flyer, you’re dealing with liars lying to each other, propaganda is coin of the realm today.
There’s no percentage in that game. A clear majority of American ancestors came here after the slave nation South was defeated.
Unless Black leaders and Pols talk about Reparations for my enslaved ancestors captured and sold into concubinage (or worse) in Muslim Persia, they can all Go F* their race-whoring mouths shut.
I’m not listening to racist scumbags bleat or prostitute or beat their fellow Americans into submission. Ever. Accepting unearned guilt, that’s somehow the popular reinvention today, is not just dangerously immoral, but deeply and violently offensive to me. Sod off wid them.
These are our rich nation’s delusions sold to middle class taxpayers by over educated Hate America First neoMarxist educrats to exploit the stupid, the lazy, and the derelict cause-heads, and their infinitely gullible prog-head elders.
They have no courage to do something real. Such are wages of coddling, indulgence, and myopia.
The most useful thing to do is to ask them if they’ve travelled to, say Latin America? Have they actually lived there for sometime? And no, not at some gringo beach resort, either.
If they have, they are much less likely to succumb to these trendy pathologies. Reality is harder and simpler – and far less deluded there.
But not just the poorer nations South of us, but also much better grounded than we are, are the rich in East Asia, in Japan, China, and smaller nations near them.
Whoa? No one better than a Canadian who’s long lived there. He explains how “fascist” in the West has been replaced by “White Left” and “Holy mother!” as the cutting edge insults hurled at PC mongers there and here! https://newsvideo.su/video/8098402
Truly eye-opening Truth Telling.
Neo — “So, now George finds his tongue?“
Precisely the travesty!
If I was a billionaire, I’d be having my agents locate terminal cancer patients and offer them $1 million for their families if they killed folks like this broad and the Soros funded prosecutors in St Louis and San Francisco.
I’m deeply opposed to political violence but if the other side is waging an undeclared civil war, and using the power of political office to do so, I say fuck ’em and start playing by Jacksonian rules.
Maybe it’s a good thing that I’m not a billionaire. Maybe.
I seem to remember a time when a diffuse group that lacked a centralized leadership, but a unified theory were called something else. If I recall correctly they were “Cells” that infiltrated areas of the United States.
Nancy B. on June 3, 2020 at 5:57 pm said:
Now the charming neighbors on our street are working overtime with competitive displays of being with the program: we are asked to “Say their Names” by placing the name of a victim of police violence our windows, and at 7 pm they will all go into the street to “take a knee.”
I will not be participating — will my absence be marked? Do I have to fear more than cold shoulders, given that, by the definition of the signs, I am “contributing to the killing of black people”?
My husband and I plan to sell our house asap, and get out. I fear we may need to find another country.
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Once again, we begin to see how the actual historical Nazis gained control of Germany, and the Bolsheviks of Russia, and the Maoists of China, and the Chavistas of Venezuela.
Cue Solzhenitsyn’s famous quote about “what if we had known enough to confront them when they came for us?” – for some reason the blog AI refuses to let me post the full thing, but it’s easy to find.
The Germans and Russians actually had some excuses for not realizing what was happening, particularly since both were accustomed to heavy-handed policing by their respective czars.
Keeping Americans ignorant of history and reality leads to the same pious fealties that people think will protect them — when you trade liberty for safety, you obtain neither.
Companion piece on How to Grow Nazi Appeasers at Home comes from another of Neo’s posts today:
https://www.thenewneo.com/2020/06/02/that-photo-of-hitler-holding-the-bible-like-trump-did-photoshopped-of-course/#comment-2499035
Gringo on June 3, 2020 at 1:56 pm said:
For PhysicsGuy, retired Conn College prof.:
Salem on the Thames: Moral Panic, Anti-Zionism, and the Triumph of Hate Speech at Connecticut College
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From which I quote:
TJ,
Historic. Definitely historic. There’s an edge to things, a feel to the atmosphere that I, myself, have never felt, even circa 9/11. Granted, I wasn’t I live in the 60’s so maybe I would remember that feel if I had been.
Considering the growing public evidence of organized Antifa cells in the ISIS model, I’ve been on keyed up, I won’t lie.
We received a LEO bulletin today that police officers in multiple municipalities across the country have been the target of stalkers. People taking video of their homes for what seems to be future reference, a la Peru’s Shining Path.
Antifa’s enablers in the press didn’t sprout up overnight. Quillete, from a year ago: It’s Not Your Imagination: The Journalists Writing About Antifa Are Often Their Cheerleaders.
More at the link.
Art, was right:
(Antifaschistische Aktion commonly known under its abbreviation Antifa was an organisation affiliated with the Communist Party of Germany (KPD) that existed from 1932 to 1933. It was primarily active as a KPD campaign during the 1932 elections and was described by the KPD as a “red united front under the leadership of the only anti-fascist party, the KPD”.)
These were commies fighting the establishment and they gave Herr Hitler the perfect foil to send his ‘Brown Shirts’ out and bring order to the nation. They are a bunch of over-funded, poorly schooled, younger do-gooders who have been silver spoon fed to go forth and bring justice to the black people who have been used and abused as pawns since de-segregation in the 1950-60’s and it is a sorry sad world that this is erupting once more.
Fractal Rabbit:
This is much much worse than the 60s. And I do remember. I’m sure some would disagree with me, but this is worse.
It’s worse because back then there actually was a fair amount of idealism, much of it misplaced, perhaps, but idealism nevertheless. Now it is hate, hate, hate. There were haters then, but fewer. And it was harder for them to organize. Plus, education had not yet been co-opted by the left (that was to follow quite soon, though, as a reaction to the failure of the left to create a revolution in the 60s). Nor had media or the MSM or so much of the church been taken over. Now they have.
There were no leftist DAs funded by Soros back then. Law and order may have sometimes been ineffective, but it meant something. Black people were actually still facing a lot of discrimination, too, so there was a hope that once that changed we could all breathe a big sigh of relief.
Now, the Gramscian march has been going on for fifty long years (or more). There is actually much less racism, and black people are even in positions of power in the very cities being roiled by these riots, and it hasn’t helped with the black underclass and all the problems that go along with that. The MSM is a total leftist propaganda machine. I could go on, but it’s too depressing.
Neo,
Nil desperandum. It’s looking pretty dark, no doubt. But there’s still a lot of country where folks are normal and decent.
We’re dialed in more here, we pay attention. It’s not unlike what my grandfather called trench or foxhole vision. Hard to see the good when all you see is the fight.
Addendum to my earlier comment and off topic a bit; but, does relate to labels and so forth. Also relates tangentially to Neo’s post on language and its effect.
For the first time this evening, I saw a picture of the three cops flashed–momentarily (by mistake?)–on FNC. One of the three was white. One, who we have seen occasionally is SEAsian; possibly Vietnamese or maybe Laotian. The third who I had never seen is Black.
Are folks aware of this?
I did several Duck Duck Go searches as to the ethnicity of the three; and turned up nothing except pictures and descriptions of the white cop.
Probably would not change anything; but, it might have. Anyway the narrative is established, and nothing else matters now.
PS There are sketchy references to Floyd’s violent criminal history; and to his very large size. There is also an oblique reference that the shop owner would not have called the police if he had known the outcome. Of course, very few people are even aware that the cops were responding to a 911 call of an out of control, intoxicated (high?) man. There is also sparse mention that Floyd resisted violently before he was subdued.
Does it excuse anything? I don’t know. I have only once confronted an out of control intoxicated Black man, and he was a friend. Fortunately, I was able to talk him into putting down the machete without attacking our boss. I can say that this teenager was scared; and adrenaline was pumping at the max. I wouldn’t be surprised if a good bit of “police brutality” is simply due to the physiological and emotional impulses triggered by violent confrontations. Fight or flight; and they cannot flee. Too bad they are not all super human. So much for that.
What happened to Floyd was terrible, he is now dead and it appears that the actions of the policeman caused his death however there are circumstances that do not lend to the narrative that racist cop kills unarmed innocent black man, on camera, which was the perfect spark to set off this pre-planned chaos, in my opinion.
Call them what you want but the mass chaotic behavior that has been unleashed on our nation to prevent a Trump reelection was not spontaneous and the coordination and planning should have been known, in detail, to the FBI and other alphabet agencies long before now.
I am thinking there are enough good people of all ethnic backgrounds in our great nation who are beginning to understand that this chaos which tears their neighborhoods apart, as if they were expendable casualties of a social justice war, is just part of the power game for the left to regain control.
All of the entrenched East Coast government people are hoping the Trump opposition will, at some point or time, figure out how to extinguish
the Trump approval and, it is my sincere hope that will not occur this year.
I suspect that the people who think “Antifa is just anti-fascism, if you’re against fascism you need to be pro-Antifa” would have swallowed the Italian Fascist or National Socialist party platform hook, line, and sinker.
Trump’s having declared Antifa to be a terrorist organization is a game changer. Trump is giving them the rope with which they will hang themselves.
Leftist politicians and the media are demonizing the police, which they will not forget and alienates them from those on the left.
Trump also has recourse to the Insurrection Act. That is another game changer. Once declared, anyone and everyone directly assisting and supporting Antifa will be in violation of that act.
There are plenty of federal statutes to prosecute violators.
For every action there is…
Don’t let the reaction surprise you. The chaos and violence in 1968 heavily contributed to the election of Nixon. I think the backlash will catch the left flat footed.
Out in flyover country things look differently. Yes, we have minority pockets of useful idiots, but the vast majority laugh in their faces. Be of good cheer. And as always, we’ll see.
1. Antifa are nihilist pseudo-Communist scum. If they had a coherent philosophy other than “break sh*t, smash capitalism, hur hur hur” they might be the modern version of the Red Front bullyboy thugs who mixed it up with the SA.
2. If the presence of a few white supremacists at the edges of a conservative demonstration indelibly taints the entire group, how come the presence of looters, robbers, and murderers at the edges of a “peaceful protest” doesn’t taint them? (You don’t need to answer that; we all know why.)
3. People will believe just the stupidest f***ing things. People were riffing off the photo of MPs at the Lincoln Memorial, one-upping each other — “they don’t look like military, their uniforms aren’t uniform” “Yeah, they aren’t showing insignia on their shoulders” “I bet they’re militia, or mercenaries” “I heard they were Blackwater” etc. FFS, they were MPs, with rank insignia, standardized equipment (some in old NATO woodland camo, like a lot of NG that doesn’t get the latest), unit patches, and a few vests that said “Military Police”. But no, it’s just stimulus in, conspiracy and outrage out. And these are grown educated adults in their 30s and 40s.
4. A whole bunch of people I know are out breaking curfew every evening at protests in downtown Seattle. Every person in the entire country knows who George Floyd was and what happened to him by now, so what is the intent of the ongoing protests? I can only think that they’re there solely to provoke the police into “violence”, when most of the time that so-called violence is a whiff of tear gas and loud noises.
At this point, I find myself kinda hoping that the people I know out “protesting” get arrested. Maybe even thrown harshly to the ground. Tear gassed absolutely. As they’re so fond of saying, play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
And I imagine that even here in Seattle there are thousands who feel just like me.
Bryan:
The positive point in all this is that the big cities will soon reach the level of Chinese contagion herd immunity. Go Seattle! Take it to Olympia too. It will be tough doing all that contact tracing, especially for the Antifa pukes, and useless dolts. Don’t worry the data is confidential!
Bryan:
Seatle city council to lift curfew order, what could possibly go wrong?
https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/crime/after-days-of-seattle-protests-city-will-withdraw-request-to-remove-police-force-from-federal-oversight/
neo on June 3, 2020 at 9:03 pm said:
Fractal Rabbit:
This is much much worse than the 60s. And I do remember. I’m sure some would disagree with me, but this is worse.
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I was still in high school in the sixties, and although we heard about riots and mayhem on the news, there were more important things to do than worry about something like that in a small-dot Texas farm town.
I turned 68 today.
I do not want to be a recycled teenager living through a repeat of the sixties.
Yes– Neo is right, it is much worse. Now the enemy troops have money and organization and tools.
https://libertyunyielding.com/2020/06/03/the-campaign-plan-for-the-war-in-the-streets-prior-orchestration-and-targeting-the-police/
J E Dyer.
A man with a plan, who appears to know what he is talking about.
The government will not do any of it.
https://www.redstate.com/dennis_santiago/2020/06/03/how-can-america-fight-antifa/
There are quite literally too many stories that need to be heard — the list of links would be several screens long — but here are a couple of worthwhile things to ponder.
https://spectator.org/no-peace-no-justice-george-floyd-protests-riots-minneapolis/
Peace — the end of the riots — has to occur before any kind of justice can be administered.
https://nypost.com/2020/06/02/worse-than-war-my-night-besieged-by-looters-and-thugs-in-nyc/?utm_source=twitter_sitebuttons&utm_medium=site%20buttons&utm_campaign=site%20buttons
A personal story by Sohrab Ahmari June 2, 2020, whose apartment building was nearly invaded by the looters.
https://tennesseestar.com/2020/03/10/commentary-antifas-most-important-enabler-is-its-legal-arm-the-national-lawyers-guild/
There is a reason some of the arrested rioters were members of the Bar.
https://www.manhattancontrarian.com/blog/2020-6-2-surely-minneapolis-of-all-places-must-have-cured-racism-by-now
Well, yeah. It seems like everyone knows that except the press.
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1268155159802261504.html
A warning to the press and Democrat enablers of the Left: be careful what you wish for; you might get it.
Pointing out relevant stories from the Bee is almost getting redundant to the actual posts by the press.
https://babylonbee.com/news/unity-at-last-kkk-and-rich-liberal-join-in-celebration-as-black-neighborhood-burns
https://babylonbee.com/news/government-jealous-of-rioters-speed-efficiency-in-destroying-local-businesses
https://babylonbee.com/news/antifa-looter-selfishly-refuses-to-redistribute-loot-equally
https://babylonbee.com/news/portland-overtakes-mos-eisley-as-most-wretched-hive-of-scum-and-villainy
Is China’s CCP behind the Antifa sparked rioting? The Democratic Socialist Alliance decided to back Antifa at their national convention last August. And DSA tweets show them stockpiling resources for rioting at the start of May.
Various communist front groups also support Antifa, and so do various foreign communist parties, it seems.
Joshua Philipp’s reports, with cam footage of a blac bloc attired Antifa member starting fires in Minneapolis who is confronted by angry black neighbours is in his report. Concrete evidence of their agency, not merely intent and planning. Share this!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvxrtMb3mYM
For those inclined to a literary treatment, Dostoevsky’s “Devils” (translated by Constance Garnet as “The Possessed”) covers this ground brilliantly. The fecklessness of the liberals of the 1840s invites devils into society in the 1860s. Using the rhetoric of progress, their acts are essentially nihilistic.
How did Dostoevsky get there, fifty years before the Bolsheviks? He looked back at the French Revolution.
The only real concern I have is the fecklessness of so many of my liberal friends about everything that is going on now. I am stunned by the sentiments of some (we are all in our 60s and 70s), usually echoing their wives and their children. It is champagne socialism at its worst. There is no more dangerous group than the well cared-for suburban wives and adult children of the Chicago Gold Coast and North Shore–although I am sure that their equals are found in every major US city. They are so far removed from life near the edge that they think money just appears.
The people have no bread? Let them eat brioche.
Nancy B said:
“Now the charming neighbors on our street are working overtime with competitive displays of being with the program: we are asked to “Say their Names” by placing the name of a victim of police violence our windows, and at 7 pm they will all go into the street to “take a knee.”
I will not be participating — will my absence be marked? Do I have to fear more than cold shoulders, given that, by the definition of the signs, I am “contributing to the killing of black people”?
My husband and I plan to sell our house asap, and get out. I fear we may need to find another country.”
That sends a chill down my spine as cold as seeing the evidence of Antifa organization. Between that and your story, it’s like hearing a twisted version of the breaking of the first two Bolshevik seals: The Seven Seals, Marxist Edition.
Don’t just move. Prepare. Please.
AesopFan and Fractal Rabbit:
Thanks for the responses. I go back and forth about how much I am panicking, although our course of action (leaving at least to a “red” state and probably to Israel, as my husband has right of return there) is set. The culture is too poisonous and dishonest to bear here, whatever happens. The ante has only been upped in the neighborhood. Its listserv now has warnings against people tearing down the signs, and calls for “protective equipment for the protesters.” The NAACP is apparently handing these out as well. They are apoplectic that the National Guard has been called in.
What is the game? Clearly nothing about Joe Biden’s candidacy smelled right. I suspect that Trump will be impeached, this time successfully (viz the appearances of Mathis, Bush, Esper) for “using the army against his own people” and they will probably throw in all the Covid deaths for good measure. Our local council member has already sent a message, including this passage:
“That night, the President offered verbal provocation, fired tear gas, and deployed military forces, who, in an extremely dangerous decision, engaged low flying helicopters against protesters—the force of which ripped limbs from the surrounding trees. By instigating violence and chaos, all for an insincere and wholly inappropriate publicity stunt, the President has only escalated tensions between the government and the citizenry demanding equality, safety, and true justice.”
I suspect that an actual coup is only slightly less likely.
Old Cougar with, oh, “No Agenda”. Right.
NancyB–Looks like it would be a prudent step to clear out.
The problem with “moving to another country” though is that –from what I can see–most major Western countries that I can think of–countries such as Canada, New Zealand, and Australia–are more leftist, in worse shape in terms of personal freedom, the ability to defend yourself, and government regulation of/interference in your life than here in the U.S. and the few countries in Eastern Europe that seem to be resisting the Leftist tide–like Poland and Hungary–have their own distinct problems.
Better to move somewhere in the center of the U.S.
However, I see the increasing possibility of the forces of the Left being able to ignite a new Civil War, pitting, in essence, the states comprising the more Conservative center of the country against many of the the Leftist coastal and other states.
Nancy B said:
“I suspect that an actual coup is only slightly less likely.”
I think we’re watching a coup take place. It hasn’t succeeded yet. To use an analogy, I think we’re in the middle game of a chess match.
-Limiting opponent while pressuring them to move pieces onto squares where you can attack later.
-Get all your pieces to a winning position.
Given how American society works, a typical Banana Republic coup wouldn’t work. You can’t just have a bunch of generalissimos seize control of the presidential palace. It would take patience and a longer time frame. It would not look like a coup, or what we expect a coup to look like. It would involve an organized insurgency, a complicit media and likely a constant barrage of legal warfare as well. All to keep the target busy and force his attention elsewhere.
A coup in the USA would look like this. We are simple mid-coup and we don’t know who is going to win yet.
Here’s a revolutionary movement some may recall:
Occupy Wall Street
the only revolution is WorldRevolution.
And here’s “New York Magazine” cheering it on with an article titled “2012=1968?” after NYC authorities finally evicted the encampment in Zucotti Park.
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It’s perfectly possible that … the raucous events of November 17 [eviction] were the last gasps of a rigor-mortizing rebellion. But no one seriously involved in OWS buys a word of it. What they believe instead is that, after a brief period of retrenchment, the protests will be back even bigger and with a vengeance in the spring—when, with the unfurling of the presidential election, the whole world will be watching. Among Occupy’s organizers, there is fervid talk about occupying both the Democratic and Republican conventions. About occupying the National Mall in Washington, D.C. About, in effect, transforming 2012 into 1968 redux.
The people plotting these maneuvers are the leaders of OWS. Now, you may have heard that Occupy is a leaderless uprising. Its participants, and even the leaders themselves, are at pains to make this claim. But having spent the past month immersed in their world, I can report that a cadre of prime movers—strategists, tacticians, and logisticians; media gurus, technologists, and grand theorists—has emerged as essential to guiding OWS. For some, Occupy is an extension of years of activism; for others, their first insurrectionist rodeo. But they are now united by a single purpose: turning OWS from a brief shining moment into a bona fide movement.
“2012=1968?”
https://nymag.com/news/politics/occupy-wall-street-2011-12/index6.html
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The Left never sleeps.
I can hardly watch a White House press conference any more.
The phony setups to the eventual questions, the constant “gotcha” questions, and the snide, disrespectful, and accusatory attitude and tone of these supposed “journalists” are nauseating and infuriating.
With an exception or two, these supposed “journalists” are all Leftist all the time, and are basically PRAVDA type propagandists; a baying, stinking pack of Hyenas.
IF we are indeed in the middle of a coup attempt (and it could easily pass for that in a suspense thriller) — we ain’t played cowboys and Antifa yet.
Nancy B seeks safer living, generates thoughtful comment and replies. Then, the New Cold War with China and international politics leads to topical new career recommends for the young, ambitious, and self-possessed? Then read on.
Nancy B writes “I go back and forth about how much I am panicking, although our course of action (leaving at least to a ‘red’ state and probably to Israel, as my husband has right of return there) is set. The culture is too poisonous and dishonest to bear here, whatever happens. The ante has only been upped in the neighborhood. Its listserv now has warnings against people tearing down the signs, and calls for ‘protective equipment for the protesters.’ “
No, you’re not panicking. You’re being honest and realistic because it can get worse before things get better. The political and social environment is too poisonous (re-read Amadeus comment, please), and too self-punishing.
Take your holiday abroad or in a so-called ‘Red’ state. (Your scare quotes are deserved. Blue is capitalist Right, internationally; and yes, Marxist’s were behind that early 1990s symbolic inversion to sow confusion among their enemies – I know because I researched that very question.) It is amazing how much arm-chair travel one can do, given the internet!
Ask friends and allies about domestic options. PJmedia savants like Roger Simon have left SoCal for suburban Nashville, another landed in Tyler, TX, North of Dallas. I’m looking at Pensacola, which is military and red neck tourist, beach, and student focused. Many who don’t like Florida look to South Carolina, the beach or Charleston areas.
Israel, given your husband, ought to be the top competition, indeed. Similarly, I’ve chosen Budapest, and possibly Cyprus (even maybe the more scenic and cheaper ‘Vegas of Turkey,’ Northern Cyprus because both have large British retirement populations) for my top spots.
And Okinawa, Japan, San Andres Island (ie, Hawaii for Colombians); and San Filipe in Northwest Mexico (only 2.5 hours South of the border), together with Florianopolis, Brazil (which is roughly half a costly as Prague, according to numbeo.com, yet with a latitude and lifestyle like Miami’s), make up my warm weather alternate list of desirable places to see.
Nancy, others have posted replies and comments on your valuable posts. I’ll only add my thanks to you and them (Fractal, Snow, Huxley, others) for theirs. Some threads benefit revisiting and thoughtful re-reading, give these tough times. This is one.
The conflict and struggle won’t die down after November. It will continue for next term, and even through this decade, unless a shooting war settles this more quickly. Getting a door opened and a foot abroad is only wise and cautious, if you can manage and afford to make this change.
Coming now is the stupid abolition of policing. MOAR Marxist Agenda. It’s failed before, but this time it’s gonna be different! Decline is as baked in the cake as pot shop proliferate.
I’ve read that visiting your top relocation choice out of tourist high season or in cold weather season is a very wise precautionary test. I believe it, too.
I’m just now listening to Hugh Hewitt (whom I ordinarily avoid), who’s saying that he’s never seen so many inflammatory trolls online among his 200k Twitter followers. And he’s never witnessed the CCP more active in that social media battle space. I believe this, too.
The New Cold War with China seems destined to shape re-international politics, and if Trump is re-elected, this serious threat will be leveraged to reshape US industrial economic investment as well as educational policies in positive ways.
The novel and mis-understood realm of cyberspace is the one new to the action-reaction world worth taking time to learn about. For example, If you can suffer some ridiculous anti-Trump/Right bias, this title will serve you well: “Like War: The Weaponization of Social Media“ by Singer and Brooking, 2018.
I’m sure most of us here are 50s are older. By dint of seniority, this means we can influence career and educational decision-making. And Like War is a book that opened my mind to new and valuable career ideas to share with the young. And those that avoid or bypass college top the list of my recommended career pathways.
High tech welding is one. But now, after reading the book “Like War” last year, I entered into a short study of the career topic, so often in the news, Cyber Security.
Google, via coursera.com, offers free four and five course certifications to become Webmaster or and Cybersecurity professionals, suitable for entry into those fields. Neauveau professions that are fast changing and place premiums on practical experience bypass politics are to be prized -especially when in highest economic demand. Boot camps, for example, are the pricey ‘change your career’ alternative.
Yet there are many YouTube lectures to compliment and further stimulate self education in these careers, or share professional experience, as well as enlighten prospective professionals. Two or three outfits dominate testing and certification programs; they can be found at Wikipedia, with links to their respective programs and test schedules (the “Cybersecurity” entry is a first stop). (One can also peruse the computer career section of Barnes and Nobles for information. But these titles date quickly.)
I hope this coming and current international conflict digression, cum new career path intro, is of interest to some. The events of the past five months have caused my opportunities to share this excitement and enthusiasm with interested youths to be very limited. “Pass it on,” is The Word of the wise.
Thank you, neo, for tolerating my digression.
Snow on The Pine cautions with downsides of many countries. True. But countries like Australia have older sources of wealth and power like mining and extractive industries. This orients the debates there towards the US and away from EUs fascism, despite Down Unders dependence on exporting. There are strengths there, the vulnerabilities are downstream, culturally.
The Anglosphere, especially, suffers from importing the same kind of SWJ leftism from the US. And since the US won the Cold War, and small nations in Northern Europe and the Balkans adopted a high priority on English language education (since victory vanquished rivals Russian and French with Cold Wars end). They too are vulnerable.
Sadly, this means the cultural and political decline the US has an unimpeded pipeline to spread neo-Marxist poison abroad. But this is Old familiar poison in Latin America, poorer nations with their own longtime and deeper racist traditions.
But at least they are more pro-family! Not so in Europe (save for imported Muzzies and even Africans).
While lacking the latter family strengths, Japan maintains a very selective admiration and importation of systems and beliefs of The West. The virus of equity and egalitarian socialism has limited appeal to the insular Japanese. They cannot be gaslit and guilted into shame; their period to be shameful, their history of genocide and race hate memory is past, and those with that memory are dying off. They do not ”do” Western ideological categories. They put family and their people First!
The strengths of Japan and greater East Asia from the menace of Western neo-Marxism is a new and powerful advantage that I had no clue about, until recently, despite having spent several uni courses studying their history and arts. (If anyone is piqued as I was, then I recommend Canadian and military vet, Black Pigeon Speaks, videos themed on this topic. Find them online, YouTube, Bitchute, etc. He’s spent several years living there.
Singapore, South Korea, Taiwan (and now disappearing Hong Kong), are options. I‘m looking at up ‘n coming Vietnam for a nice beach town.
I have friends committed to Prague in Czechia. It has its own conflicts and importsLeftism.
My pipeline into Hungary is named Melissa Mesvaros, the daughter of Hungarian parents who emigrated to the US and New Jersey, but who nonetheless returned for family ties, after the early death of her father. She’s Very knowledgeable.
She did her degree study at a Hungarian University. Two years ago, Melissa believed that Prime Minister Victor Orban could not win a third term. Too much young indoctrination and propaganda was arrayed against him, she thought. Instead, he won his third term and with his second super-majority. He’s going to go down as the nations’s most important leader in 170 years,
Orban is an intellectual’s version of the Trump and his agenda. And calumnied and persecuted for the same reasons.
Anyone interested in Hungary must check out John O’Sullivan, the director of the Danube Institute in Budapest. O’Sullivan was a speech writer and advisor for Britainsp’s Margaret Thatcher, and sometimes writes for National Review about events in Europe.
But Melissa reports that higher education there is anti-patriotic, hostile to Orban, encourages students to leave if they wish to succeed. Decline? Sure. But although Orban’s policies have succeeded economically, I don’t know about recently, since virus times.
Now, Poland faces an election and run off this summer. But has, surprisingly, missed the worst of the virus, and it’s strong and growing economy will avoid recession. Poland has benefited from missing the most alien immigrants (unlike a Germany, France, Italy, etc), and has absorbed over one million Ukrainians (stupidly shunned by the EU).
Poland and Hungary are close to each other, historically, politically, much as Croatia, Czechia, and Austria are.
The most important counter-trend that will draft the free world, led by the US, is the New Cold War with China. Britain has joined, led first by Australia, then New Zealand, and now Boris Johnson is offering citizenship to, not just the 150,000 recent commonwealth passport holders in Hong Kong, but three millions. The ante has been dramatically upped.
Sure. All of this awaits post-Covid19 developments. But a huge and mostly unified world – outside of parts of Latin America, the Philippines, and a defiant EU led by declining Merkel – is organising to trade together and isolate China. This is the conflict dominate this decade, at least until Xi is gone and reproachment is possible.
I think that however horrible this current year has been for the US, the New Cold War with China is the greatest engine that will save the US from decline, stimulate reinvestment and cultural reinvention. It is an economic, and humane political mission that pits good against evil, and gives indoctrinated youth a reason to seek virtue and grasp and embody their righteous heritage.
If history tell us anything, this cause will check and defeat the Hate America, Hate the West morons. This conflict and the challenge it presents us will power a lot of healthy changes, both here and abroad. The mask of innocent and virtuous socialism will be torn off. And it’s a timely Truth that cannot be denied.
Regarding the coup, I don’t see why the claim, broadcast, amplified and echo-chambered, that “We absolutely must remove Trump so as to try and save (or salvage) the country from Trump and his racist supporters” wouldn’t work.
The MSCM has been shrieking this for over three years now. The Democrats, of course, got the ball rolling (with charges of collusion, frame-ups galore of Trump team members, and the hum-dinger: Trump stole the election), with never-Trumpers (who can be “relied on” because they’re “Conservative”), enthusiastically joining in the righteously indignant hysterics.
And now: we have certain elements of the military rather dubiously chiming in at this rather timely moment.
(As Obama might say, “The optics are not bad, not bad at all….”)
So if the current mayhem, outrage and front-and-center cacophony, along with the necessary pious prevarication, continues 24/7 for the next several months—and it doesn’t make a whole lot of sense to doubt that that’s exactly will happen—Americans will be deluged with just how awful and disgusting—and dangerous—Trump (and his supporters) are, while the REAL criminals in the Democratic Party, the REAL tramplers of the Constitution, and the REAL racists—that is, if a concerted policy of traditionally keeping the Black community down and beholden to government welfare and foodstamps while encouraging that community to blame everyone else for their predicament can be considered “racist”—will be protected by the sheer levels of the noise that the Leftist echo chamber will purposely be generating to accompany the mayhem and destruction that they’ve been actively encouraging and defending.
…That is, unless there are still enough Americans out there who don’t really like being told what to do, how to think and what they should feel…and are wondering whether putting Godzilla in charge of the chicken coop is such a terrific idea.
(On the other hand, I suspect that the Democrats, in their wisdom and concern, are working on finding a “solution” to Trump—-and America—even before November rolls around.)
Correction:
Should be “…exactly WHAT will happen…”
Why does everybody continue to mispronounce the name. It’s properly pronounced Auntie Fay. Called it Auntie Fay every time you mention it, and it will hurt them more than anything short of the DOJ actually dismantling it and bankrupting Auntie Fay’s funders.
Just a little minute for amusement:
Our NW DC listserv, and the local mailing list for our block, have been fulminating at red hot levels about BLM, the forces “occupying” DC, how the looters must have been White Supremacists but if they weren’t, they were totally justified by systemic racism, etc. etc. etc., and now, of course, have taken up in the last day or two the line of “defunding the police” and workshops for children about it.
I am cowering in my house, and have called the realtor and the mover, but to my surprise a poster on the listserv fought back, and amidst a number of other highly logical and sensible points, asked “What happened to ‘Salute Our Heroes’ and dropping off pizza at the District Headquarters two weeks ago?”
Yes, two weeks, total change of party line!
The gaslighting is effective enough that even I had forgotten….
Nancy B.:
The suddenness of the changes is whiplash-provoking, not to mention contradictory. But nothing is too contradictory for the leftist mind, if the Party so dictates. Please see this.
A-Max-ing, Nancy B. Please do keep us updated because your detailed “on the ground” reports add much lost to those of us no longer within the urban/suburban vortex.
I’ve been a couple years away from a Gay and hipster neighbourhood close to the Capitol building of Colorado, in Denver. Back when Gay marriage was a cause, for example, I could simply walk one mile to see protests. No more.
With Trump declaring Antifa a terrorist threat, we’ve all been wondering, I think, whether or not the menace would see its international dimensions prosecuted.
Here is a report posted at theGatewaypundut, suggesting that it will.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/06/must-read-antifa-international-brownshirts-soldiers-european-american-left/
So, in Germany, taxpayer monies flow to Antifa to fight radicals? Uh huh. And the NGOs that back them? Possibly, media as well?
Does anyone want to bet against the possibility that Obama was doing much the same thing? And that US federal agencies don’t fund the friends of Antifa, too? Or that is has continued since Obama left office?
Clearly, the media is involved. I recall Lauren Southern’s reports from Hamburg some years ago, covering demos and being literally hunted down by violent and menacing Antifa and their numerous supporters, including the media.
And it was the threats on her life that were a huge part of her leaving the field of open reporting on them, too.
Obviously, trampling on all rights of free speech are part and parcel of the far Left’s programme, and thus Antifa’s too.
Breaking down this international nexus of support could be a big part of restoring American civil rights to free expression and debate.
Let’s hope this investigation gathers momentum.
International dimensions? You mean from the Soros office in London through various cut-outs? I’d be surprised if you couldn’t find evidence of that.
It would be good to have the FBI and CIA back doing the jobs they were supposed to do.
And I suspect there are plenty of pending files on Antifa just waiting for legal authority and a willing DOJ to crack them open.