New plan: Part II of “On coronavirus (COVID-19) so far” coming tomorrow
I thought I’d get Part II of my coronavirus update published today. But in the meantime, I decided to write just a little teeny tiny post on the question of the 1918 flu epidemic and aspirin.
Well, a lot of research and 1525 words later, I’ve decided to hang up my coronavirus-research hat for the day.
That sort of thing happens a lot. I expect a post will be short and easy, like that aspirin one, and it turns out to be anything but.
Bummer, I was looking forward to it! I get that you have a life and all, and I wouldn’t want it any other way, but I love your take on these type of things because you actually do the research. Thank you for all your work!
Going to be interesting..
so far one congrescritter is up to a fight with trumps son for saying dems want people sick… but then again, how would you prevent them from such if your idea is open borders and no checking… in fact, thanks to that process deseases that were almost eradicated here are back and some new old ones are on the scene again…
dont worry, they have a list of reasons, like people refusing vaccines (which those coming over borders dont have anyway), and global warming (which has yet to happen or have successful prediction. they even removed the signs for it from the state parks as they were making claims that anyone could see were wrong), and on and on..
but not that a disease has a vector and the vectors have brought some in like chagas disease… which their excuses dont really cover…
The United States is considered a nonendemic country for Chagas disease. As of 2009, more than 300,000 persons living in the United States were believed to be infected with the T cruzi parasite.3 Although a 2016 review places this number closer to 240,000, this estimate does not include undocumented immigrants, who could account for more than 100,000 cases
lots of others too…
Well, after a LONG week of being force fed hours of CNBC apparently we are all doomed. Brutal fear mongering.
To paraphrase the late Lloyd Bridges it looks like I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue.
When you donate blood or platelets the Red Cross specifically asks if you have had Chagas disease. It is a parasite that is common to Central and South America and can be debilitating or fatal. A serious public health threat if one didn’t control immigration and borders. Oopsie, we did it again.
If there were ever examples of why nations need to control their borders, Coronavirus, Ebola, SARS, and other diseases certainly fit. But, of course, doing so is racist. Can’t have that, can we?
Then there’s sleepy Jay Inslee casting aspersions on VP Pence and POTUS.
“The governor of Washington said the vice president called to thank his state for their efforts against the novel coronavirus — and got a blunt message back.
“I told him our work would be more successful if the Trump administration stuck to the science and told the truth,” Jay Inslee, a former Democratic presidential candidate, told his Twitter followers Thursday night, as critics worried that Vice President Pence’s new role leading the U.S. response to a global health crisis could politicize a life-or-death matter of science.”
What a classy guy. Sure fits right in with the rest of the “science giants” among the progressives. Ashamed to have him as our governor.
The most effective method to contain the epidemic was to stop all traveling from china and denying entry into the country to people who has been to china or other countries where the outbreak is taking place but that is also the method democrats most adamantly oppose, and they have the audacity to criticize Trump for not doing enough. I am calling it now if unfortunately due to entry into country of travelers originated from the epidemic ridden areas through exploitation of loopholes that it comes to a time we must mass quarantining a large number of people (most likely Asians mainly from china/japan/korea/iran) suspected of carrying the virus democrats would spin it as trump putting immigrants into concentration camps.
Neo, you are truly a treasure.
Sorry, but I couldn’t resist posting a link to this “sign of the times.”
https://thehardtimes.net/culture/man-doesnt-want-stolen-identity-back/
First US death reported in WA.
Dem Gov Inslee says “a man” then changes to “an individual” LOL.
JimNorCal,
Yeah, as a WA resident Inslee is pathetic. I saw his statement that it was a man which implied it was the 18 year old high school student when in reality it appears it was the women in her late fifties that had been to Korea recently I guess.
i rarely watch these things but I just watched the Trump press conference and it was very good I thought. Especially what Anthony Fauci had to say. He came pretty close to comparing this whole thing to the yearly flu in it’s effects on people of differing ages and medical conditions.
Response to the WA death is out.
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/bethbaumann/2020/02/29/trump-announces-new-plans-after-the-first-us-coronavirus-death-n2562367
Some of the travel bans have been extended, and I am not betting against Dave’s prediction of Democrat response to quarantine procedures.
Erdogan is not helping things in Europe.
https://legalinsurrection.com/2020/02/massive-migrant-wave-hits-europe-as-turkey-opens-border/
The Iranians may not have been exposed in Iran, as presumably most of these people have been in camps in Turkey, but it’s still not a good plan to have thousands of people moving around who haven’t been tested for illnesses, not just the coronavirus.
Neo,
I’ve seen lots and lots of articles about preparedness. What I haven’t seen is anything discussing the TIMING and mechanics of what people might expect if we got to a lockdown situation. My suspicion is that people would likely be surprised by the suddenness of it all. Something like Hemingway’s line about his bankruptcy. It happened gradually and then suddenly.
I’d love to know how emergency management types plan for it. My guess is that people think they’ll have plenty of warning so they can get to the store to stock up. I think the more likely way it would plan out would be a decision to spring it on the public at 2 am and immediately impose a 24 hour curfew. If authorities are concerned about it spreading in the community, the last thing they’ll want is a mad, chaotic dash to the grocery stores where massive crowds fight over whatever’s left on the shelves.
Anyway, if you or anyone else knows someone with emergency management experience who has or could provide some guidance on how a lockdown would actually work (and the timing/warning for the public), I think it would be valuable. I fear too many people are thinking they’ll have time to make that last minute run to stock up if things get serious.
I imagine a lockdown would present all kinds of interesting logistical and legal issues. Maybe someone has written or will write on it.
stan – I don’t think there are any specific articles about lockdowns, but you can get a lot of practical information about stocking up and emergency preparation from the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (aka Mormons), both official and unofficial sites.
They’ve been working this beat for about a hundred years now, and have it down pretty well.
The Church already sent 2 planeloads of supplies to China, because of contacts there.
The most important thing is, as you say, to start before you think you’ll need it. That’s also the advice we got from Texas government when we lived on the Gulf Coast — hurricanes are predicable enough there is no excuse for not preparing early. If you don’t use it this time, you’ll have it for the next one.
The best advice is not to wait for an announcement.
Everyone who can should keep a 30-day supply of rice / beans / flour / oil / sugar / tp / diapers / etc. on hand until this passes. Replenish the staples as they are used to keep the supply up. Stock up on standard medications if possible. That way, even if there’s time to go shopping after any “shelter in place” order, you won’t need to fight the crowds. If nothing else, buy double for the next few weeks and store the surplus.
If the crisis fizzles, you’ll be able to lower your grocery bill later by using what you have on hand. No need to panic, and no regrets regardless of what happens.