Here’s a thread to talk about the South Carolina primary
It’s happening Saturday.
Or, you can just chat.
I was rushed today – as I previously mentioned – and somehow I originally thought the primary was today! I guess I just can’t wait.
That “I just can’t wait” was sarcasm. But actually, the length of the campaign season does make me antsy.
It’s this Saturday.
Oopsies. Will change.
Haste = waste.
Inneresting to page through the RCP summaries. Joe Bribem remains in the lead in Georgia and South Carolina. Bloomberg leads in Florida and Oklahoma. Klobberherworkers leads in Minnesota. Sanders leads in about 15 other states. (Princess Spreading Bull might place in Massachusetts).
“Klobberherworkers”
Heh
Compare accounts of the SC debate (or as Paul Mirengoff labeled it, “FORA,” the Forum on Ruining America) to this Trump ad.
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2020/02/26/giddy-up-stronger/
I’m told they’ve been voting for a couple of weeks. The much sought after endorsement from the long standing, well respected, black senator came today and it goes to Joe Biden. May be too late. Though polls seem to suggest he’s doing well.
We’ll see. If he wins well in SC he will need to carry that momentum into Super Tuesday and show well. Read that he has put all his energy since the day before NH into SC. Speculation is that this will mean a poor performance elsewhere.
As B.B. King once said about chords, I’m horrible with predictions.
I’ll take the chat option. I had a dream with Joe Biden in it the other day. It was somewhat entertaining. He and I were having an animated debate about the best way to negotiate with the Dutch government over certain art purchases. My dreams are usually quite detailed, so there was an entire conversation, most of which I don’t remember at this point, but at one point he told me I had it all wrong and I gave it right back to him, saying one has to use facts X, Y, Z (we were gesturing at a printer’s layout or something, so there was a context).
I suppose that the inputs for this dream were (a) the news report(s) about Biden getting into it with people at his campaign events, and (b) an article I read recently about some work the Metropolitan Museum has done to refresh its European collection. (One other interesting thing about my dreams, besides the detail and complexity, is that I can often pinpoint the source of major parts of their plotlines.)
No energy for silly Dem Socialist – heavy or lite debates. Slovakia elects its parliament on Saturday; not sure if Christian Democrats get in or not.
Nor if my wife gets in.
Christianity is making a pushback/ come back. Too bad so often with populism; and nationalism.
Biden will win South Carolina, by a large margin. Steyer will come in second (his investment mostly paid off), Sanders, a distant third. The rest will be footnotes.
Come Sunday morning, all the pundits will have conveniently forgotten their prognostications about Biden’s slow but certain collapse, and Bernie’s very clear “front-runner” status. “No, no…we never said any of that!” But they’ll be absolutely certain Bloomberg is finished, now that Slow Joe is reinvigorated. “Joe got his mojo back! Mike imploded. $400 million boondoggle. Silly Mini Mike!”
Until Tuesday…when Bloomberg wins at least a couple states. Then…”we never said Bloomberg was imploding! Never!”
Brokered convention! It’s coming. And I’m not sure they’ll even have a nominee on the second ballot.
Tom Grey,
While I understand that populism can be very dangerous, I think nationalism can be a good thing. In the following order I am loyal to family, close long time friends, my local community, and our nation as a whole. I reject the “new world order”. Globalists seek one world hegemony and totalitarianism. This is obvious, and simple to understand.
Adler, I agree. It ain’t over until the third ballot. By then the deep state dnc cabal will have the ducks in a row. Hillary and Abrams 2020.
Tom Grey:
It is indeed “sad” that religious freedom has required warfare and the establishment of certain nation states and governing documents (USA and the Constitution) and still requires vigilance for the preservation of that concept and practice, The secular global elites have no use for either the USA or our Constitution. For some inscrutable reason the militant Muslims have no use for the USA or our Constitution either. Inconceivable.
om,
Their only hope is to believe they can tame the crocodile before it eats them last, although they are too dumb to realize what is obvious.
An oldie, but still a goodie, especially during elections.
https://babylonbee.com/news/remember-your-own-political-movement-is-most-accurately-represented-by-its-best-members-while-the-opposing-political-movement-is-most-accurately-represented-by-its-deranged-monsters
Mollie Hemingway is on a roll (as usual!).
https://twitter.com/mzhemingway
Her retweets regarding AG Barr have him looking far and away more presidential than—as it happens(!)—any of the current Democratic candidates for president. He seems—to me, at least—to be a combination of good sense, impressive intellect, inspiring orator, unabashed patriot, and committed activist in support and defense of the American Constitution and the rule of law.
Quite a formidable combination.
No wonder the Democrats would like to see him out of there, and fast!.
Parker, I agree about “nationalism can be a good thing”. So I call it patriotism – love of your own country. With nationalism accepting the bad part, dislike or hatred of other countries, along with prejudice against people from those countries.
I love America, and its ideals. I’m also loving lots of things about Slovakia – but while I can become a Slovak citizen, I’ll never be “a Slovak”. Many Slovak Hungarians and Slovak Roma are already citizens, but not really “Slovaks”. And, tribalistically, it does matter.
Something too seldom talked about with tribalism is history. How, by being a member of a tribe, what happened in the past to members is what happened to “us”. So an injustice in the past to some tribal member is a injustice to all current members. This is terrible.
It’s hugely important that the sins of the father, the crimes of the fathers’ tribe, are NOT attributed to the children.
A funny sad situation is that there are other ambitious Christian politicians, who now say the KDH (Christian Dems) are “not Christian enough”. Some have extreme proposals like putting women in prison if they have an abortion – the KDH is against that. But such extremists, while few, get a lot of publicity. Far more than the responsible Christians.
Christians haven’t yet accepted that they’ve lost the culture war, to the extent that they need to behave differently than they could behave in “Christian culture”; and there’s not even agreement on what those different behaviors are. One that is being pushed is to not affirm that sex outside of marriage is sinful, and homosexual relations are sinful. The Church of England just reaffirmed this teaching. But being against “responsible promiscuity”, especially sex before marriage, is so uncool that the PC-Nazis want to make it a crime to call it sinful.
See more on South Sudan tribalism, and 400k dead over 6 years of black Dinka vs black Nuer tribal fighting:
https://strategypage.com/on_point/2020022681946.aspx
This is the tribalism Dems want for America.
Tom Grey:
Now when is infanticide punishable by incarceration? Societies make distinctions, sometimes very nuanced, sometimes not at all. Is a late term abortion the same as a first term termination of pregnancy? Something about morality versus biology. Is the tribal conflict in Sudan even remotely analogous to the culture and political environment in the USA or even Slovakia?
“…when is infanticide punishable by incarceration?”
This is the problem I have with laws against abortion…who is prosecuted? the woman or the doctor?
Personally, I consider abortion immoral at any time. Period. However prohibiting it by law is different – someone has to be prosecuted. Nevertheless, that fetus is a live being, and killing it by abortion is killing a person.
It’s still against the law to damage Bald Eagle eggs – where’s the logic? If it’s against the law to harm a Bald Eagle, and If the egg is considered a Bald Eagle, how can it be that a fetus isn’t considered a human?
And again…who do you prosecute? the mother or the doctor? or both?
This is the problem I have with laws against abortion…who is prosecuted? the woman or the doctor?
Properly, both. And get anyone who works for the doctor as an accessory.
SueK:
Some of the history of prosecution for abortion is here. It generally focused on the provider in later years. But it couldn’t have been enforced too often, because illegal abortions were readily available. That was true when I was young, as well.
SueK, Wow, the bald eagle egg analogy is pretty stunning!
Esther & SueK – Logical reasoning is not the Left’s purpose, or a strongpoint for its dupes.
Recall also that, while any of us would be fined or jailed for picking up Bald Eagle (and other protected species) feathers from the ground (road-kill or just shed), the Enviro-fascists stay resolutely mum about the avian carnage of their precious wind turbines and solar arrays aka “bird death rays.”
Compare and contrast, as I pointed out with the Bee article on a couple of threads.
https://www.audubon.org/news/will-wind-turbines-ever-be-safe-birds
“Will Wind Turbines Ever Be Safe For Birds?
Sure, it’s green energy—but it also results in hundreds of thousands of bird deaths each year.”
vs.
https://cleantechnica.com/2018/02/21/wind-power-results-bird-deaths-overall/
“Wind Power Results In Very Few Bird Deaths Overall”
vs.
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/how-many-birds-do-wind-turbines-really-kill-180948154/
“In the end, using 58 mortality estimates that met their criteria, they came up with an estimate. According to the current literature somewhere between 140,000 and 328,000 birds die each year from collisions with wind turbines. “
Here in NC, I voted early because I’m an election worker and there might not be time on election day. The county set up a HUGE voting enclosure to handle north Raleigh/north Wake County voters. It was empty. Early voting turnout is way, way down. Conversations with some Democrats tell me that they simply are not enthused by the field they’ve been offered. Some will sit it out in November if Bernie is the nominee, but they don’t care enough about the alternatives to go try nominating one.
On the “bird death rays,” none of these stories came out of the VRWM media.
https://www.extremetech.com/extreme/188328-californias-new-solar-power-plant-is-actually-a-death-ray-thats-incinerating-birds-mid-flight
“What spans 1,600 hectares, cost $2.2 billion to build, and potentially fries hundreds of thousands of birds per year? The new BrightSource solar power plant in California’s Mojave Dessert. The plant, which uses some 350,000 garage-door-sized mirrors to focus sunlight on three boiler towers, also acts as a death ray, instantly igniting and killing any wildlife that happen to fly through the intense beam of light. ”
https://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-solar-bird-deaths-20160831-snap-story.html
“In an interview this week, David Knox, a spokesman for NRG Energy Inc., said the Ivanpah team has been testing an ever-changing combination of tactics to minimize bird deaths and injuries …”
https://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2014/02/nevadas-massive-solar-plant-death-ray-birds/358244/
“The Wall Street Journal reported last week that California’s energy commission urged BrightSource to steer clear of tower-based solar farms like Ivanpah in future projects because of their cost and effects on wildlife: ”
The Extreme Tech article address the arguments of the Clean Technica post (“yeah, but, lots of things kill even more birds”) with some figures, but the bottom line is that windows and cats are not being deliberately built to promote a political agenda that has birds as its major casualty.
I’ll let Clean Technic have the last word, because I didn’t take the time to track down all their claims.
“To summarize the wind power and bird death situations simply, it is clear that the number of bird deaths caused by this form of clean, renewable energy is relatively very small. This is not to say that those deaths don’t matter — they do, and there might be some strategies and/or new technologies to apply to reduce or perhaps even solve this problem some day. The number of birds that die from other causes, including fossil and nuclear energy sources, is vastly larger, but wind power critics are not going to mention this fact because it would undermine or negate their flimsy rhetoric.”
Some of the “other causes” are commercial farming of domestic fowl for food, and hunting, which at least result in productive use of the birds.
And they’ll still jail you for picking up feathers from birds you didn’t kill.
Aesop Fan:
Flimsy rhetoric exemplified:
“……The number of birds that die from other causes, including fossil and nuclear energy sources, is vastly larger, but wind power critics are not going to mention this fact because it would undermine or negate their flimsy rhetoric.”
Green dead wild birds aren’t the same as other dead wild birds, not in numbers nor in kind. The green dead wild birds died for a noble cause – the Greed New Deal (Power Over All Plan).
In the spirit of Neo’s invitation to just chat, we should not lose sight of the fact that any of the Democrat candidates, if elected, will immediately shut down all investigations into the Russiagate / Spygate / Agency malfeasance / criminal activities that have been occurring since at least 2012, if not earlier.
All of them will do that.
They will also fire all of Trump’s agency and department heads, despite their caterwauling when he fires Obama’s (which he didn’t do nearly soon enough).
Here’s a deep dive by Dyer into some of the more intriguing details that have slipped by other analysts, or haven’t gotten much traction in the press.
https://libertyunyielding.com/2020/02/27/march-2016-brennan-spygate-and-the-three-threads/
Speaking as an amateur birdwatcher, I have long been appalled by the bird death count from wind turbines and solar farms. Let’s develop the new generation of mini-nukes, along with distributed generation and transmission. We’d save a lot of birds and make our power grids a lot less susceptible to failure from either natural events or attacks.
This didn’t get very far, but they raise a good question.
That is, just how “independent” is Bernie Sanders the Independent?
https://www.politico.com/states/florida/story/2020/02/25/2-florida-democrats-sue-to-keep-sanders-off-primary-ballot-1263505
Kate:
Here is one engineering firm that is working on the mini-nukes:
https://www.nuscalepower.com/
Speaking of the Imperial Presidency…Senator Joe Palpatine is on the case.
https://libertyunyielding.com/2020/02/28/biden-looking-forward-to-appointing-first-african-american-woman-to-u-s-senate/
If you’ve wondered why we call some people “low information voters,” (and they are not all black, by any stretch of the imagination), there’s your answer.