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  1. So it is now acceptable, in Democrat presidential-candidate circles, to call a woman a ‘dog-face’ and a liar. Noted.

    I eagerly await the next Biden rally, when I expect people to show up wearing LDFPS sweatshirts.

    Alternatively, a nice slogan for such an event might be: “Mr. Biden: I am a big f**king deal. You aren’t.”

  2. Not a joke.

    He’s off his rocker.

    Or maybe it WAS a joke: certainly, his “No Malarkey” slogan is one of the funniest in living memory. (Though not quite as funny as the “We suck!” ad engineered by the geniuses at Electrolux—and which graced billboards across the land, even if it was fairly quickly removed…. Hey! Maybe Joe can recycle that one! Recycle, Reuse, Reduce, Rewind! The only true Green candidate!)

  3. Andrea Widburg claims the phrase is a combination from two movies. The dog-soldier reference is from the John Wayne movie She Wore a Yellow ribbon and the pony-soldier reference is from a Tyrone Power movie entitled Pony Soldier. Apparently, neither film includes the “lying” part.

  4. At least the thought that Old Joe is really losing it now may help ease the shock of being called a liar and dog-faced on national TV. She wasn’t gorgeous, but dog-face was pretty bad. He did seem to treat it as a joke in the video.

  5. Funny.

    His Senility Joe Biden seems to have conflated lines from two early 1950s westerns.

    As a child I watched a fair number of old movies (especially to be relished on sick, conference or semester break days back when there were both morning and afternoon locally hosted movies; and if you were lucky they featured cowboys or gangsters or war) and seemed to recall something about pony soldiers.

    Others obviously did as well. And they got to YouTube well before me.

    Some of the comments are classic.

    “I wasted my time watching this awful movie so that you wouldn’t have to.”

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RyyxaPb45o

  6. Ann Althouse is posting the averages of a mess of tracking polls. Klobberherworkers has caught up with Bribem in New Hampshire, per the purveors of public opinion research. It would appear his Maginot line is in South Carolina.

  7. https://www.thenewneo.com/2020/02/10/the-biden-dog-face-and-pony-soldier-show/
    Saw a lot of speculation at CTH last night, which I have greatly condensed, by consolidating like comments and removing noms. Plus, breaking this up into separate sections based on the theory proposed.

    Maybe one of them nails the source. They have certainly spiked Mr. Biden.
    The presumed source was a John Wayne movie, title unspecified, and no one seems to have found it yet.
    I kind of favor the Tyrone Power suggestion, but there are other more, um, innovative ones put forth.

    And then there’s this GIF
    https://twitter.com/216Cat/status/1226593951639011333

  8. She wasn’t gorgeous, but dog-face was pretty bad.

    Her looks appear normal range. It’s her clothes and her grooming, which suggest a women who does not mind if she’s taken for a dyke.

  9. WHERE DID THAT COME FROM?!?! — INQUIRING MINDS WANT TO KNOW
    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2020/02/09/candidate-biden-to-new-hampshire-woman-youre-a-lying-dog-faced-pony-soldier/comment-page-2/#comments

    Alex Salvi @alexsalvinews
    In January, former VP Joe Biden used the phrase “lying dog faced pony solider” in response to a question about Obamacare. It’s a quote from a John Wayne movie.


    Interesting how the media just takes Biden’s claim at face value.
    No mention of which John Wayne movie, because they haven’t bothered to check.
    From an initial review, it appears there may be no such movie.

    “The reference is seemingly a quote from a John Wayne movie, and Biden has made the reference in the past. According to Biden, the candidate’s brother likes to use quotes from John Wayne movies and this one appears to have stuck with the candidate”.
    https://townhall.com/tipsheet/bronsonstocking/2020/02/09/biden-calls-college-student-lying-dogfaced-pony-soldier-n2561021

    Windage and elevation, pilgrim. Windage and elevation. lol
    ..
    If the Duke said it, then it’s no malarkey!

    Joe Biden calls a voter a “lying dog-faced pony soldier” – but Democrats say it’s ok because John Wayne????

    kind of sums up the Democrats’ week

  10. Look fat: just more drooling gibberish from an addle-pated, ol’ hair sniffin’ sonovabitch !

  11. https://slate.com/culture/2020/02/joe-biden-dog-faced-pony-soldier-john-wayne-tyrone-power.html
    “Pony Soldier,” in the context of the film, is a Native American nickname for the Royal Canadian Mounted Police, and although no one calls Power a “lying, dog-faced pony soldier,” a chief does say, “The pony soldier speaks with a tongue of the snake that rattles,” which isn’t far off:

    Is that the scene—filtered through Joe Biden’s memory of his brother’s memory of an old Western—that inspired Joe Biden to call a young woman at one of his events a “lying, dog-faced pony soldier” nearly 70 years later? We may never know, but one thing is certain: For Democrats who want to nominate a presidential candidate with a vast library of half-remembered old Westerns floating around in their brains, there’s only one choice.

    “Dog Faced Pony Soldier” must be the sequel.

    This puts an exclamation mark on just how old and out of touch Joe Biden.
    https://www.classicmoviefavorites.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/Pony-Soldier-01.jpg

  12. Replace Pony Soldier with Buffalo Soldier and with got us a racist here-Ah.

    How many will associate “pony soldier” with the Buffalo Soldiers, as one should?
    The Buffalo Soldiers, forever immortalized at Ft Huachuca, AZ, were some of the finest, fiercest soldiers in This Man’s Army. The Buffalo Soldiers were all Blacks, the precursor to the Tuskegee Airmen.
    Biden is old enough to know that.

    * * *

    Anybody who watches old Westerns knows the Apache and other Indians called the US Calvary “Pony Soldiers” in all the old movies. Old Joe must have been watching old Westerns on the Malarkey Express
    …And he got “Dog Face” from old WWII movies where US Soldiers are often called “dog faces” So all Joe can remember these days is the old movies he is watching or watched in the past. Dog faced Pony Soldier = Western + War films.

  13. Joe …needs new material. Are his campaign staffers all over 80? What decade does he think he’s in? He has used that phrase “Dog faced pony soldier” before three other times so now he’s repeating his insults now.

    Also it is obvious Biden is having memory issues. For that quote to pop in his head at that exact moment raises questions about his brain function. Damage from the aneurysms perhaps? Does he have a disease? Or is medication causing his issues? Or a combination of all three?

    Biden has no business running for any political office.

    Well, it’s certainly a unique and different strategy to use, insulting your potential voters. It certainly wouldn’t be my strategy if I were running for the democratic nomination or for President in the general election for that matter. But I’m just a former liberal democrat who saw through their BS almost 30 years ago. “Dog faced pony soldier”? “You’re a liar.” “No malarkey tour” when that’s all he does? Where is
    … I found “Lying Dog-faced Freak” in the April 5, 1995 issue of “The Courier” (Waterloo, Iowa). This was from the “Conversation Piece” section in that paper, a section wherein readers submit their answers to the weekly question. The question posed back on March 27, 1995 was:
    What’s your favorite nickname for Brian “Kato” Kaelin?
    One of the answers published on April 5, 1995 was “Lying Dog-faced Freak”

    Maybe it does not signify a brain disorder at all . . . perhaps it pertains more to Joe’s history of plagiarism.

  14. Lying dog-faced pony soldier is the new “Jane, you ignorant slut”. Who knew?

    What if Biden’s bizarre Pony Soldier movie line was actually a swipe at Elizabeth Warren?

  15. TommyJay on February 10, 2020 at 4:01 pm said:
    Andrea Widburg claims the phrase is a combination from two movies. The dog-soldier reference is from the John Wayne movie She Wore a Yellow ribbon and the pony-soldier reference is from a Tyrone Power movie entitled Pony Soldier. Apparently, neither film includes the “lying” part.
    * * *
    Sounds like the best bet.

  16. A bit off-topic, but not that far: in the Friday debate Warren said that we need “race-conscious laws.” Since reading about that on Saturday I’ve been watching for some further information, something to explain more specifically what she has in mind. But I haven’t seen anything. On the face of it that seems a pretty horrendous suggestion, and one that would be rejected vehemently by some very large number of voters. So I’m wondering if she really meant exactly what she seems to be saying.

  17. Widburg also said this, which I think is quite persuasive.

    It’s probable that either Joe or his brother conflated the two movies to come up with that humorous family insult.

    Given the context, there’s nothing too odd about what happened. Joe joked with a supporter, who was obviously not offended, nor were the others in the audience. The phrase is a fusion of lines from a couple of 70-year-old movies. It’s not a story.

    And yet the phrase turned into a big story, showing up everywhere on the internet. The only reason that can account for the reach of this silly vignette is that it so perfectly sums up Joe Biden: mired in the past, weird around young women, hiding aggression behind a semblance of humor, and mentally muddled. That’s Joe Biden’s personality in a nutshell.

    In the same way, people made much of Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez mixing up Milton Friedman and John Maynard Keynes, and giving birth to a brand new economist named “Milton Keynes.” It was probably nothing more than a stupid slip of the tongue. We’ve all made that kind of mistake. On its face, it shouldn’t have gone viral.

    That Ocasio-Cortez’s verbal slip went viral is because it so perfectly sums up her fundamental ignorance. She’s supposedly educated (an economics major!), but she gets everything, absolutely everything wrong.

    Both these foolish, ignorant, and potentially dangerous Democrats have foibles that can be summed up in the smallest of moments. That says a lot about them, and none of it is good. They lack greatness. They are small people, and it’s their small slips that reveal who they are.

    I have seen the theory before, which is that stories like these play to our confirmation bias about people, especially politicians. One example was the incident where President Ford stumbled on the airplane steps, and was never able to shake the perception — deliberately cultivated by the media, of course — that he was not only clumsy in movement, but also in policy and performance.
    Ford was one of the most athletic presidents we’ve ever had, but that made no difference.

    There would have been lots of viral blooper-reel stories about Obama, but the MSM quashed them.

  18. Yes, Mac, I agree that “race-conscious laws” is a much worse thing to wish for than whatever Biden’s word salad meant.

  19. Fetchez la Vache!

    “You don’t frighten us English pigdogs. Go and boil your bottoms, sons of a silly person! Ah blow my nose at you so-called “Arthur King”, you and all your silly English Knnnnnnnnniggits. Pfthhhhhhhh. Pfthhh. Pfthhh . . . Ahh donn wanna talk to you no more you empty-headed animal food trough whopper. Ahh fart in your general direction. Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries . . Now go away or Ah shall taunt you a second time.”

  20. The only defense for AOC is that there is a town in the UK called “Milton Keynes” — about 30 miles from London and literally right next to Bletchley (of “Park” fame).

    Of course, as an economics major she should still have gotten the names of the famous economists correct. One should ask if she had ever heard of the town, and then point and laugh if she hadn’t.

  21. Of course, as an economics major she should still have gotten the names of the famous economists correct. One should ask if she had ever heard of the town, and then point and laugh if she hadn’t.

    She wasn’t an economics major. She majored in IR and was allowed to declare a minor in economics. IR programs commonly require some economics courses – principles, intermediate micro and macro, international trade, and international monetary economics. I’d wager she fulfilled the IR requirements and then took one extra course.

    John Maynard Keynes is a name she should recognize. Again, though, intermediate macro is taught out of textbooks where his theories would be discussed, but you seldom see his actual texts unless you take a class in the history of economic thought. She indubitably saw the character string ‘Keynesian’ a great deal more than the man’s actual name.

  22. What’s gonna be interesting, when the wash is all finally done and hung out to dry, will be when we learn exactly what Biden’s role and purpose in the DNC structure has been for all these years.

    That dood is 100% pure political liability as an office holder and/or candidate.

    Why did they keep him around?

  23. On the face of it that seems a pretty horrendous suggestion, and one that would be rejected vehemently by some very large number of voters. So I’m wondering if she really meant exactly what she seems to be saying.

    Waal, a random Democrat I encountered in a forum like this said “One reason Kavanaugh is such a lightning rod is that beyond his particular conservatism he represents the prototype of the white privileged frat boy so not representative of most Americans”. This is an indicator of how partisan Democrats think, if thinking is what it can be called. This sort of thing animates official policy in higher education (see the ‘Dear Colleague’ letter, instituting an investigatory regime that the purveyors of higher education are content with). Where’s Warren been working all these years?

    Other than MOAR unfunded entitlements, the policy mix favored by partisan Democrats is a series of harassment gestures against various social segments they despise – Brett Kavanaugh, Nick Sandmann, the Little Sisters of the Poor, small town working-class whites, &c. Ultimately it’s about manufacturing orders in society atop which is a rancid little clerisy defining the strata. Warren’s part of the clerisy.

  24. Why did they keep him around?

    Half of life is showing up. Here’s a hypothesis: the major vector in Delaware politics is inertia. See the career of one Michael N. Castle, who held public office therein on-and-off from 1967 to 2011. Along one day comes a hopeless person named Christine O’Donnell who knocks him off in a primary. Consider the possibility that the culture of Delaware is such that insiders seldom encounter vigorous opposition, so the electorate is largely apathetic and unmobilized. Biden kept getting re-elected because the opposition was generally pro forma.

    Now, why does Obama put him on the ticket in 2008? Steve Sailer points out that Obama generally did not socialize with professional peers. There’s a small social circle in Chicago revolving around Valerie Jarrett. These people are the Obama’s personal friends. Sailer’s contention is that during his time in office they all appeared round robin for week-end visits. BO would play basketball with visiting sports dignitaries. His favorite golf partner was a pro shop manager introduced to him by John Kerry. He didn’t use golf to break the ice with members of Congress (or meet with members at all, for the most part). Here’s a suggestion: Obama avoids the company of people who might make him feel at a disadvantage. Biden’s a mediocrity and everyone knows it, which is why his presence was passably welcome.

  25. “Steve Sailer points out that Obama generally did not socialize with professional peers.”

    Sailer’s a bright enough guy but his racial preoccupations make be a bit dubious about anything he writes.

    Mike

  26. Try filling in the blanks.
    Lying Dumb F### Piece of S### isn’t suitable for “mixed company,” so it is converted to Lying Dog Faced Pony Soldier.
    Sure, the “of” is missing but abbreviations in text messages often drop prepositions. Anyway, that’s my guess. He saw it in a text message perhaps.

  27. This is his third run for the nomination. I don’t believe he has won a single caucus or primary in any of those attempts and if he gets shellacked in NH as it seems he will, he’s unlikely to hold on to his lead in SC. He’s simply a bad candidate.

  28. Art Deco: “… the policy mix favored by partisan Democrats is a series of harassment gestures against various social segments they despise…”

    Sure, I know that. But she’s talking about actual laws, not junk regulatory bullying. What the hell does she have in mind? I’m surprised that there hasn’t been more discussion. I know you can’t expect much from the msm but I haven’t seen much from the right, either.

  29. Biden’s dead meat, almost literally a Dead Man Walking.

    “Ford was one of the most athletic presidents we’ve ever had,” While it’s true Gerald Ford had been a college football center, I recall NOT liking many pictures of him standing on a desk, bent over a ball ready to snap it. Very undignified, tho displaying a certain comfort with normal sports folk. I think today I wouldn’t dislike it as much, even if a Dem did it. Ford stumbling off of planes was at least a couple of times, I was embarrassed about it.

    I’ll always regret my vote for Jimmy Carter, first and only Dem vote. Ford’s pardon of Nixon was the deal breaker for me. And the culture war hadn’t really started up much in 1976, even tho Roe v Wade had already been decided.

    Are YOU a lying dog-faced pony soldier?
    You ARE if you vote Democrat!
    And there are so many of them. 🙁

  30. I feel sorry for the poor old guy.

    He shouldn’t have run, and I think his heart wasn’t entirely in it to begin with, but somehow he got talked into it, or talked himself into it, or both.

    Now he’s stuck with a race that’s just too exhausting and prolonged for a guy his age, and it’s showing daily (or would be, if they let him campaign every day, which they increasingly don’t). The guy ought to be living out his golden retirement spoiling his grandchildren, praying for his wayward son, and giving a thought or two to the state of his own soul. Instead, he’s being set up for being a gigantic disappointment, a failure, and a laughingstock.

    He almost certainly has a creeping awareness that he’s falling apart and saying dumb things, and that folk are beginning to notice. I’m sure the awkward silences are getting more and more frequent. I would guess that Biden’s more the “unwarranted bravado” type than the “collapse into self-pity” type…but at this point there are very few remaining scenarios where he doesn’t, eventually, do that.

    Al Gore grew up the son of a senator in the literal shadow of the capitol dome, and always thought he’d be president one day. When he lost, he collapsed in on himself, ballooning in weight and showing up with a beard, sitting in a hot tub with other guys. He had to restyle himself as a prophet on the environment to get back any mojo. His personal narrative — the movie in which he’s the hero — had fallen apart, and he didn’t know who he was any more.

    Now it’s Biden’s turn, and he’s too old to start predicting ManBearPig and begging to have his chakras released for a living. (Even if that gig weren’t taken.) So what’s Biden going to do, to be able to wake up in the morning and NOT have to avoid his own reflection in the mirror?

    Honestly, the best thing that could happen to the guy would be a mild stroke or something. Something that doesn’t seem like it’s his fault, but which would allow him to gracefully step down to look after his health.

    If this were Hillary, in all her obnoxious arrogance and venality, I’d be happy for the tragi-comedy to unfold with maximum shock-value. That’s probably the only realistic hope for turning a soul such as hers towards repentance. (I claim no insight into her soul, of course; but sometimes one can make a reliable guess, judging “by the fruits.”)

    But Biden, I think, isn’t on that level. He’s been dumbass now and again, and been totally wrong on important topics, and been promoted beyond his level of competence, and used his connections to provide sinecure for his kids, and allowed himself to make others uncomfortable for his own convenience…but I think his closest brushes with real evil were more through negligence than willful wickedness.

    So I feel pity for him. Not enough to contemplate voting for him, but enough to wish he could escape with some of his dignity intact.

    I dunno. Maybe it’s really that, as I get older, the phrase “There but for the grace of God…” looms larger in my imagination.

  31. Sure, I know that. But she’s talking about actual laws, not junk regulatory bullying. What the hell does she have in mind?

    They get away with a great deal (with the aid of our odious judiciary) by (1) ignoring extant laws and (2) ‘interpreting’ them to allow that junk regulatory bullying.

    See her specific complaint. Both Sanders and Warren are promoting the notion that we have so and so many blacks in prison because ‘the criminal justice system’ is ‘racist’. Just a map of where the murders occur in an ordinary metropolitan region discredit the idea. Their objection is that police officers (i.e. deplorables) enforce laws contra the clerisy’s designated clientele (blacks). Such violates the social order, where the peasantry and the burgesses are not permitted to give evidence against the nobility and clergy.

    I haven’t figured out whether these two are stupid or malevolent.

  32. R.C., I consider what Biden did to Robert Bork, and tried to do to Clarence Thomas, were “willful wickedness.” He and Ted Kennedy launched the really vicious partisanship we’ve been seeing more and more of.

  33. Biden does have a habit of opening his mouth and something stupid falls out.

    I almost wish he would be the Democrat’s nominee just so we could see what Trump does with him.

    Now, THAT would be an entertaining show!

  34. Hereogar on February 10, 2020 at 5:59 pm said:
    What’s gonna be interesting, when the wash is all finally done and hung out to dry, will be when we learn exactly what Biden’s role and purpose in the DNC structure has been for all these years.

    That dood is 100% pure political liability as an office holder and/or candidate.

    Why did they keep him around?
    * * *
    Perhaps he shared some of the largesse accumulated by his son.

    R C – your pity does you credit, but Biden could have just said no.
    However, the people who egged him on should have known better, and must bear some of the responsibility for his looming train wreck.

  35. Bob on February 10, 2020 at 6:47 pm said:
    Try filling in the blanks.
    * * *
    That was one of the suggestion at CTH as well, not too surprisingly.

    I’m still going with the conflation of the two Westerns, especially if he and his brother tossed the line around between them as a family joke.

  36. Old Man Biden is worn out and tired, when I heard the question and the reply I do think he was trying to say something light hearted about his falling face down in the dirt experience in Iowa. Words started coming out of his mouth and he probably had no idea where he was going with his train of thought as he cobbled together his sentence. I have no sympathy for him whatsoever and I would not be surprised if he does not step back within the next month or two and as much as he nuzzles women and small women he might come down with the some strain of the flu.

  37. MBunge: I agree with you about Sailer but in this case he hit on something that many others have concluded independently, namely that Obama tends to surround himself with people who aren’t that brilliant for fear of exposing that his own intelligence has been overrated.

  38. ICYMI
    https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/02/video-the-authentic-frontier-gibberish-of-joe-biden.php

    As Scott notes below, sleuths have been unable to find a direct film source for Joe Biden’s inexplicable recall of “lying dog-faced pony soldier,” but I think for Joe’s next rhetorical trick, maybe he’ll let loose with “sallywagin’ hornswogglin’ cracker coaker” from Blazing Saddles, which was duly pronounced “authentic frontier gibberish.”

    In fact, this scene looks like pretty faithful rendition of Biden’s increasingly senile campaign

  39. Biden has now proven that his being a lech is not his greatest failing.

    Invariably he responds to a challenge or criticism with an underlying and revealing meanness of spirit. Like most conmen, when his camouflage is pierced, his fear of exposure results in an angry overreaction.

    He’s not a nice person, not at all. He’s a conniver and putting on an amiable persona is fundamental to his deceit.

    Good people never pretend to be bad people. As it’s entirely foreign to their nature.

    Bad people often pretend to be good people. It’s part and parcel of how they manipulate.

  40. Waay too much energy being spent trying to decipher dementia + mean SOB + years of boozin’.

    Biden can string words together & sometimes sentences…and sometimes he makes sense. But Q & A him & turn up the heat & he reverts to meltdown. His mouth starts making noise without any direction from his brain.

  41. “Also it is obvious Biden is having memory issues…. Biden has no business running for any political office.”

    Just a short while ago, I would have agreed with that sentiment; but I think he’s succeeded in changing my mind. Given the general Democratic gesundheitgeist, it may be precisely the reason why he SHOULD run for political office.

    Run, Joe, run!
    =====

    “Ultimately it’s about manufacturing orders in society atop which is a rancid little clerisy defining the strata.”

    Oh, it’s a lot simpler than that. It’s about destroying people. And societies. And countries. Because…well, because “We’re better and smarter and wiser than you. Oh, and more moral, too.”
    =====

    “…repentence.”
    Careful, there. You might find yourself being accused of being a Russian agent.

    (Though personally, I would save any feelings of pity and/or empathy until after November.)
    =====

    “They get away with a great deal…”
    Clearly, the judiciary has been—in tune with “the times”—perverted (i.e., politicized); and the Democrats are resisting with all they’ve got any and all efforts to correct that perversion and get things back on keel.
    Cf. Amy Wax (herself a victim of the perversion of the academy):
    https://www.lawliberty.org/liberty-forum/woke-lawyering-and-the-rule-of-law-dont-mix/
    H/T Powerline blog

  42. Don’t much care for the structure of these comments. I don’t see a way to respond to a particular comment but only to comment in general. In any case it was well known that Gerald Ford had very bad knees as a result of his years of playing football so he did stumble occasionally and was mocked mercilessly for it. A better example would be the way It was falsely reported that the First Pres. Bush did not know what a supermarket scanner was. That played into the smear that he was out of touch with the common man. Binders full of women is another example, but in that case we might truly have been fortunate to avoid Moral Mitt!

  43. “…well known…”

    Nor were the helmets in those days anything to write home about…

    Ford was a good man and a very decent legislator; but he’ll always be known as the guy who took over from a corrupt VP, pardoned Nixon and lost to Jimmy Carter. (There is a connection.)

    He also treated the travails of his wife with dignity; and her misfortune was transformed into providing opportunities, and healing, for others.

    Life isn’t always fair.

  44. Sailer’s a bright enough guy but his racial preoccupations make be a bit dubious about anything he writes.

    I agree with you, except that many of his observations don’t intersect with those pre-occupations and a great many of them have a “hmmm, I hadn’t thought of that” quality.

    The Obamas as people are something of a puzzle. I don’t run across writing about them which parses them more plausibly than does Sailer’s, though he is in the course of it addled by his various shticks (the obsession with psychometrics and the conspirazoid tendencies).

  45. @FOAF:

    Obama tends to surround himself with people who aren’t that brilliant for fear of exposing that his own intelligence has been overrated.

    “A level people hire level A people, B level people hire C level people.”

  46. Biff:

    To address a particular commenter, just do what I did – put the person’s name in a salutation.

    I don’t have nested comments because I want people to be able to immediately see which comments are new and which are old, so they can read the new ones without wading through the whole lot.

  47. TommyJay: there’s some context for that. I’m able to sort of eavesdrop on some zealous leftist conversations on Facebook, and have noticed that the guillotine seems to be a sort of theme for some. And while the ones I know personally do not propose literally beheading people, and claim to advocate non-violence, they are pretty clear that they want to destroy said enemies in the sense of eliminating them from power and influence entirely. “We don’t mean it literally” is not reassuring.

  48. Neo,

    “I don’t have nested comments because I want people to be able to immediately see which comments are new and which are old, so they can read the new ones without wading through the whole lot.”

    ThankYouThankYouThankYouThankYouThankYou…

  49. Biff on February 11, 2020 at 7:47 am said:
    Don’t much care for the structure of these comments. I don’t see a way to respond to a particular comment but only to comment in general.
    * * *
    You can do what Neo said, or copy/paste the entire byline.
    If a reply only references someone’s name, I use the CTRL-f function to search for their comments in the thread.
    And Neo: ThankYouThankYouThankYouThankYouThankYou…

    Nested comments work best for groups that know each other well and go off on multiple looonnngg tangents.

  50. TommyJay on February 11, 2020 at 12:32 pm said:
    Speaking of massive campaign gaffes, have people seen this one? The Bre Kidman for Senate campaign in Maine is using an image of a guillotine as her campaign logo. No, no. We don’t mean it literally, she says. I’m so relieved.
    * * *
    As I recall, the guillotine meme did not end well for most of its originators.
    And there are some folks who were very close to taking it literally.

    https://www.redstate.com/bradslager/2020/01/24/how-are-things-down-on-puerto-rico-well-citizens-have-erected-a-guillotine-at-the-governor%e2%80%99s-mansion%e2%80%a6/

  51. Mac on February 11, 2020 at 1:11 pm said:
    TommyJay: there’s some context for that. I’m able to sort of eavesdrop on some zealous leftist conversations on Facebook, and have noticed that the guillotine seems to be a sort of theme for some.
    * * *
    If you don’t have a guillotine handy, you can always use a car.

    https://www.redstate.com/nick-arama/2020/02/11/man-behind-gop-tent-attack-reveals-why-he-did-it-and-its-not-good/

    Police have now talked with the man and confirmed it was a deliberate attack, according to the police. Timm allegedly said he didn’t like President Donald Trump and that was part of the reason he ran over the tent.

    The case hasn’t gotten a lot of national media attention, although we know had the shoe been on the other foot, there would have been wall-to-wall coverage.

    While local Republicans and Democrats, national Republicans and even the president have condemned the attack, there’s been no word from national Democrats like House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA).

    Indeed, on Sunday, Pelosi at an event said that what she would advise children who might be interested in politics that they “gotta be ready to throw a punch.”

    Even the statement from the local Democrat, the president of the Duval Democratic Party, while condemning the act, is a bit twisted.

    “The perpetrator of this violent and cowardly act should not be used by either side to politicize or demonize fellow Americans. We hope the Duval GOP will join us in asking our fellow citizens to act with dignity, civility and respect for one another during this election cycle and beyond. Acts of violence shouldn’t be politized.”

    In other words how dare the GOP point out that this was a targeted political attack against them. Wow.

    It isn’t hard to believe that this guy was whipped up by the demonizing of Trump by Democrats when he says things like he “had to take a stand.” He is responsible for his own actions. But Democrats need to stop the extremism, the demonizing and condemn acts of violence like this, unequivocally.

    I won’t rehearse the history of Democrats’ leaders’ incendiary remarks and their followers’ actions, as that is too well known on this site.

  52. Thanks for the feedback. I was dealing with a minor emergency today.

    AesopFan, I can’t believe that Dem leader in Duval county, Jacksonville. Don’t politicize violence. We only tolerate that when we do it.

  53. Remember those bullies in high school that, when called out, always pouted pugnaciously, “It was just a joke!”?
    Yeah, so do I.

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/02/10/college-student-felt-humiliated-when-joe-biden-called-her-lying-dog-faced-pony-soldier/

    Madison Moore, a student at Mercer University in Georgia, got into an altercation with the former vice president on Sunday when she questioned his electability after his campaign flopped in Iowa. Biden, who has been known to get snippy on the campaign trail when asked about topics he does not like, did not address the question directly, choosing rather to bemoan the Iowa Caucuses, in which he came in fourth. Before starting that topic, though, Biden tried his hand at a joke.

    “You ever been to a caucus?” the former vice president asked. When Moore claimed she had, Biden asserted she must have been mistaken. “No, you haven’t. You’re a lying, dog-faced pony soldier.”

    Even though the 77-year-old former vice president made the remark in jest,
    [so he and his media handlers claim]
    Moore told the Daily Mail on Monday the experience was nothing short of demeaning.

    ‘It was kind of humiliating to be called a liar on national TV by the former vice president,” she said. “Instead of answering that question straightforward, his immediate response was to attempt to invalidate me by exposing my inexperience.”

    Moore added that Biden’s dismissal of both her and the Iowa Caucuses suggests his campaign is in serious trouble.

    “He has been performing extremely poorly in this race and the fact that he couldn’t just straight answer my question without bullying or intimidating just exacerbates that fact,” she said.

    Not a good look for someone trying to appeal to the Perpetually Offended Cancel Culture Kids.
    Although in this case, she was right: he was bullying and demeaning.

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