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  1. “I suspect it not only reflects differences in dance, dance directors, and dancers themselves, as well as what audiences have come to expect, but it expresses a difference in the idea of relationships between men and women in 1957 (when the piece was first performed) and now.” – Neo

    Hmm.
    I’m seeing a connection with the Doris Lessing post, the parts about feminism.

    “Lessing, who became a feminist icon with the books The Grass is Singing and The Golden Notebook, said a “lazy and insidious” culture had taken hold within feminism that revelled in flailing men.”

  2. Oh my; thanks to AesopFan for pointing that out and to Neo for defining the difference so well. Now I see it too. Never a great one for ballet, I realize there is much more to see than just the physicality. The original puts the “deux” into the “pas de”.

  3. In watching the two clips I noticed that in the earlier clip, immediately after the woman slides behind the man, he simply drops to his knees… he remains closer to her physically as he begins to reach back. As he pulls her up, they remain physically close… intimately so. It creates a sense in me that they are also emotionally close/connected.

    In the later clip, the man steps out before going to his knees and reaching back. It creates a LOT more air between them. Thus it kills the sense of physical intimacy that I feel when watching it.

    This is way outside my wheelhouse. I would never have seen this without a guide to show me what to begin watching for. Thank you.

  4. Although new to this site, it is already apparent that AesopFan is deeply contemplative (in a good way).

    Just so his head doesn’t swell up too much, LOL, he’s pretty verbose too 🙂

  5. Men and women, gentlemen and ladies, were equal and complementary. There was an active effort to normalize this favorable juxtaposition of the sexes. Today, we are misaligned, competitive, even confrontational. The tenor change from the classic to contemporary productions, reflected by proximity, synchronization, and faith, epitomizes our progress.

  6. “She seems a bit stuck to him in some way and slightly reluctant to move. There is resistance to getting down on the floor. She appears conflicted; perhaps with a ‘should I stay or should I go?’ feeling.” — Neo

    If you start that video a few seconds earlier than Neo’s start spot you can see it a bit better. There is definitely a pause after she plants her feet spread wide. Given her muscular build, it looks like a very powerful stance to me and possibly a visual statement.

    Then its looks like she is trying to overcome a little stiction on the soles of her shoes. You can see her thigh muscles flex and twitch a little and her hips wiggle just a tiny bit; then the feet begin to slide.

    Watched both again. Adams does not plant her heels until just before the slide, and apparently the heels stick. Kowroski plants her heels immediately, pauses, then lifts her heels an instant before the slide. So her slide is a toe slide. The Adams maneuver is much more muscular.

  7. I hear a Monkees’ song now as I see the second, Kowroski clip:
    “I … I … I … I … I’m
    not your stepping
    stone.”

    He’s there to be stepped on, as she moves thru high society.

  8. Tom – haven’t thought of that song in years!
    It was one of my favorites.
    Actually, I thought most of their music was pretty good, even if it was a made-for-tv band.

  9. JimNorCal on February 2, 2020 at 12:48 pm said:
    Although new to this site, it is already apparent that AesopFan is …pretty verbose too ?

    * * *
    It’s mostly long excerpts posted late at night.
    And occasional rants
    But thanks for the notice!

  10. I love this site. Neo, thanks for introducing the finer things into this old, broken down rugby player’s life.

    Please don’t mistake this as a bid for sympathy. I made my choices and they are catching up to me. You know what makes me laugh every time I look in the mirror? I have to use a walker just to get to the mirror. And then I laugh at myself.

    Do you know what you find out when you use a walker? Just how badly you need shoulder replacement surgery.

    But that’s all spilled milk. The relevant point, I believe, is that A) I watch the clip with the sound off and B) is I watch the clip with the sound on.

    The ballet this woman is describing seems to have nothing to do with what I am seeing. She is describing an evolving relationship, challenging the male dancer; (working from memory so this may not be an exact quote) “If he knows everything about me will he still be there at the end.”

    What I am seeing is a well rehearsed scenario where all the challenges have been worked out. It’s not evolving; it has evolved. And there is nothing wrong with that.

    Maybe this bothers no one else but me.

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