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Democrats make the closing arguments for Trump’s side — 15 Comments

1. Saw this! It’s worth watching (quite short).

   I suppose one could say that the Clinton impeachment was viewed by Democrats as Republican payback for the Nixon near-impeachment. Dems won that battle, and they should have quit when they were ahead. Gotta love the bit from 1998 about replacing “high crimes and misdemeanors” with “any” crimes, when now they have progressed to “no” crimes.

2. As Cipollone closes saying “You were right” (more or less to Schumer, though generically the others taped as well) we can hear the room broadly laughing. It’s in good part an embarrassed laughter, I suspect, though mixed too with some recognition of the absurdity of it all. What a contemptible place to arrive this is. What a shameful episode in life.

3. Moral relativism of the most obvious and shameless sort.
   The Democrats are pigs. They have not just become pigs recently, but have been swine for a long time. Porker Nadler is a graphic example, jowls and all back then.
   And all of these swine remain at the public trough twenty years later.

4. Thank God for CSPAN.

   And how great is Pat Cipollone?

   With the questions the next two days see how better the President’s lawyers are.

   My question: Manager Nadler. What evidence do you have of a Senate coverup?

5. And Romney lobbies for the witness for the prosecution.

6. Democrats make the closing arguments for Trump’s side

   Indeed they do.

7. How fitting that the very people who appeared in this video were chosen by Pelosi to present the case for impeaching Trump to the Senate: Nadler, Lofgren, Schumer. How prophetic, indeed! A good bit of nostalgia by Cipollone, but probably won’t change a single mind.

8. CWII (civil war 2.0) would be horrific. Many innocent lives lost, widespread destruction, foreign enemies emboldened and on and on.

   Still, on days like this I start to mentally tot up sums.

   Perhaps it would be worth it.

9. I thought the clips were a bit of a risk. The Dems can point out, “See? We were right. ”
   But followed in my mind by “yes,you Dems were indeed predictably vindictive.”

10. Problem is whether the broad American public sees the GOP defense or not.
    I am dubious that the overtly Prog MSM, to which most of the hoi polloi still turn, will give this much attention.
    No unity among the GOP Senators, as usual. The marginally-principled— Romney, Collins, Murkowski, should declare themselves Independent. Being a Republican should require more than being an alcoholic in AA, in which only the person can decide if he/she is or is not an alcoholic. There must be standards!

11. Cicero:

    If all the RINOs were to become Independents, the GOP could lose control of the Senate to the Democrats.

    Not a good idea.

    Remember Jim Jeffords?

    Vermont senator Jim Jeffords left the Republican Party to become an independent in 2001. Jeffords’s change of party status was especially significant because it shifted the Senate composition from 50-50 between the Republicans and Democrats (with a Republican Vice President, Dick Cheney, who would presumably break all ties in favor of the Republicans), to 49 Republicans, 50 Democrats, and one Independent. Jeffords agreed to vote for Democratic control of the Senate in exchange for being appointed chairman of the Senate Environment and Public Works Committee, and the Democrats held control of the Senate until the Congressional elections in 2002, when the Republicans regained their majority. Jeffords retired at the end of his term in 2007.

12. “If all the RINOs were to become Independents, the GOP could lose control of the Senate to the Democrats.

    Not a good idea.”

    In the short run, no. In the long run? Maybe. While there are red state/corporate money Democrats that the Left has little use for, there’s not much of an equivalent on that side to RINOs. Democrats just don’t side with Republicans to get an “atta boy” from National Review. They don’t stab their own side in the back to get some love from Fox News.

    Tolerating that kind of behavior is a tacit admission from the GOP that they are the lesser partner in our political establishment. And while RINO is a term used a little too freely by the Right and no longer tolerating them would cause some immediate pain, I think we’d all be better off in the long run.

    Mike

13. MBunge:

    The short run IS the long run.

    If the GOP loses control of the Senate, it loses the ability to approve judicial appointments that Trump makes. That has extremely far-reaching consequences.

    And that’s just one small yet important part of it. There is nothing to be gained and much to be lost if the GOP loses control of the Senate.

    Not “tolerating” a few RINOS also means that states such as Maine go Democratic and never elect another GOP senator. You can just about count on it. Utah is different; they could easily dump Romney and there would be no problem.

14. F on January 29, 2020 at 9:37 am said:
    How fitting that the very people who appeared in this video were chosen by Pelosi to present the case for impeaching Trump to the Senate: Nadler, Lofgren, Schumer. How prophetic, indeed! A good bit of nostalgia by Cipollone, but probably won’t change a single mind.
    * * *
    The Senators in the clip were chosen because they are managers; there were undoubtedly plenty more if Pelosi had appointed different standard bearers.
    The thing that most disgusted me is not so much the hypocritical rhetoric, because that’s what politicians do, but that 21 years later they are still in Congress!

15. sdferr on January 29, 2020 at 8:17 am said:
    Democrats make the closing arguments for Trump’s side

    Indeed they do.
    ***
    I already saw the video from CNN, but the others were a nice addition.
    Good ad.
    The GOP campaign spots are much better under Trump.

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