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There was a Democratic candidates’ debate last night

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If you watched it and want to talk about it, here’s your chance.

Hey, you can talk about it even if you didn’t watch it. But if you did watch it, you have more intestinal fortitude than I.

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There was a Democratic candidates’ debate last night — 21 Comments

  1. All the Democratic candidates are guilty of egregious pandering to various groups. but Pocahontas exceeded all the others last night in promising, should she win the election, to read out the names of murdered “trans women of color” in the Rose Garden. The question, posed by Yamiche Alcindor, hardly belonged in a serious debate, and, of course, no-one would have dared to mention the ugly truth that all these murders have been committed by black men.

  4. Several of those on stage don’t have a snowball’s chance of winning the nomination. But a few of them — Klobuchar, Yang, and perhaps Buttigieg — are more likely trying to position themselves for a VP nomination. That’s not a bad political move right now, as the Democrats seem unlikely to win in the general, and in four years Sanders, Biden, and probably Warren will be too old to run again. That makes it likely the current crop of VP hopefuls will be well positioned to run for the presidency.

    Meanwhile, as I was thinking of Yang’s run for the presidency and his $1000 per person promise, I got to wondering if he’ll offer $500 per person if he can be the VP nominee. Just wondering.

  5. “Meanwhile, as I was thinking of Yang’s run for the presidency and his $1000 per person promise, I got to wondering if he’ll offer $500 per person if he can be the VP nominee. Just wondering.”

    Ha Ha. I’m going to steal that.

  7. I actually thought the debate was markedly more watchable than any of the prior ones this season. Perhaps because there were fewer on stage. But I also thought the moderators were a distinct improvement. Also at times I almost forgot Biden was there. Still I can’t quite imagine any of them becoming president!

  8. I watched for a half hour in the middle. Like gwyko, I thought the PBS moderators asked better questions, and I took note that Yang supported nuclear energy as the only viable solution if we really need to lessen carbon dioxide emissions, and even better, he briefly explained the advantages of thorium reactors (a subject worth DuckDucking).

  10. Yang/Gabbard or vice versa would be a formindable combination.
    Don’t tell the DNC.

    Wine caves are not new news for the spelunkers in the memory holes:
    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/nancy-pelosi-once-hosted-reception-with-owners-of-pete-buttigieg-wine-cave

    One of Buttigieg’s ripostes to Warren was to point out that she had way more money than he did, a lot of it from Senate campaign funds from..ta dah.. big money donors.

    But wait! There’s more!

    https://www.foxnews.com/media/home-depot-bernie-marcus-elizabeth-warren-millionaires-capitalism
    “Home Depot co-founder lashes out at Warren over jabs at rich: ‘What the hell did she do’ to earn her millions?”

  11. Molly Brown, my husband and I just listened to a Freakonomics podcast with Yang today. I wouldn’t have called him “elitist bigot” based on what I heard – but I would definitely go with “wearing huge blinders” and “is a hammer, and therefore everything he sees is a nail.” I know he’s an entrepreneur, not an engineer or a scientist. (And therefore he feels that EVERYbody can be, and wants to be, an entrepreneur.) But the whole lengthy podcast made me think of every science fiction story I’ve ever read wherein the government is now a scientific oligarchy.

    And it’s ALWAYS dystopian. Sometimes the author xirself (I don’t know what constitutes a correct pronoun any more) may not realize it, but it’s ALWAYS dystopian.

    In Yang’s desired future, we only do favors for each other because of the “social credit points” we can get for it. We each get our $1000 a month, which we bitch about because it’s not enough to live on, so we still have to keep our jobs even though it constantly reminds us of what it just be like to be rich without ever offering us the possibility of actually getting rich. And we fritter it away because – for many but not all of us who were not able to support ourselves without it – our basic problem is that, generally through no fault of our own, we have not been taught how to budget or plan ahead, and giving us not-enough-money-to-live-on doesn’t solve that problem. So we are all dependent on government, which was always the Marxist plan; but I think it genuinely isn’t what Yang was going for. He just lacks the forethought, himself, to see where his primrose path is leading.

  13. JimNorCal – I suspect the erstwhile viewers decided they already knew all they needed to know about the remaining candidates. Why watch the reruns?

  15. Jamie,
    ‘He just lacks the forethought, himself, to see where his primrose path is leading.’
    So in addition to being an elitist bigot, he’s an idiot.
    Seriously, the UBI idea is as loony as they come and doesn’t stand up to the most elementary analysis.
    It’s loony because – the children. Imagine giving the current crop of welfare recipients a grand a month instead of Food stamps, Section 8 rental assistance, WIC, medicaid, etc., etc. Because with UBI you get rid of all that and just – a grand a month. In no time their kids would be starving and begging in the streets.
    It’s elitist because he believes the future economy will not create a work world that provides a living wage.* Only a few very ‘gifted’ will earn/generate any significant wealth. It will be their job to ‘carry’ the rest. This outlook is positively feudal.* I find him to be very representative of – and appealing to – a generation that spent their time learning a lot of useless and dysfunctional nonsense and now can’t understand why don’t earn enough to pay off their student debt.

    *Typical Marxist thinking. Compare that to Trump who’s goal as President is to create an economy that enriches Americans.

  16. What the Dem candidate will be facing:
    https://freebeacon.com/columns/how-trump-won-2019/

    Matthew Continetti – DECEMBER 20, 2019 5:00 AM

    President Trump ends 2019 in a better position than when he started. The year began with the swearing in of Nancy Pelosi as speaker of the House. The Mueller probe dragged on. The legislative agenda of Trump’s first two years in office had petered out. The Democratic frontrunner, Joe Biden, was beating him by double digits in the polls. A little more than halfway through the year, bond prices signaled recession.

    Look where things stand now. Pelosi’s decision to impeach Trump already has cost her a seat and stands zero chance of resulting in a Senate conviction. Not only has Mueller shuffled off the stage, but Michael Horowitz’s report on FBI malfeasance also raises serious doubts about the credibility of the government and media elites who spent years arguing that Trump and his associates were Russian agents. Mitch McConnell blocks liberal bills from the House while confirming additional conservative judges. Biden is damaged and the problems of his candidacy manifest as he sleepwalks toward his party’s nomination. The economy is gangbusters.

    Nothing the Democratic majority has done has hurt Trump’s approval rating.
    …
    Trump’s opponents have contributed to his success ever since he became the focal point of our national life in 2015. He fashioned himself into a political bulldozer and rolled over decades-old dynasties, demolished Republican shibboleths, ground into dust codes of presidential behavior, and plowed through entrenched obstacles to conservative policymaking in the bureaucracy and courts. Throughout it all, he has benefited from the contrast between his policies and results on one hand and the possibility of the “bold, structural change” desired by woke Democrats on the other. He also has made the most of his adversaries’ weaknesses: not just the character traits he turns into nicknames but the zealotry that manifests itself in overreach and radicalism.
    …
    President Trump heads to Mar-a-Lago impeached but defiant, with a new NAFTA and a “Phase One” China deal, Space Force, 185 federal judges, the lowest unemployment in half a century, a stock market that has increased by 50 percent since Election Day 2016, a unified party, and an opposition barreling toward a confusing and bruising primary. Trump won 2019, but this is the preseason. The real game begins in 2020.

  18. Netanyahu is another Martian. It’s just a matter of connecting the dots.

    We are in a very dangerous situation.

    What do you think Ymarsakar has been trying to tell us all this time? Why do you think neo keeps trying to shut him up? Who do you think neo *really* is?

    Hmm?

  19. AesopFan,

    What Continetti says is mostly correct but he is an opportunist of the higher order. He was a NeverTrumper who was in management at the WFB when they were dancing with Fusion but now he seems to be on the Trump bandwagon.

    And of course his father in law is Bill Krystol which of course isn’t a disqualifier but I’m sure he will be ready to flip back if the winds blow the other way.

  20. The debate was mentioned at a gathering tonight in my local liberal silo, along with hearty wishes for a merry impeachmas.

    Unable to help myself, I said, “hey, let’s start impeaching the Democratic candidates now! Look, I watched the debates. There were a few funny lines this time, but all the candidates are terrible and they might try to do the things they are proposing if they win.”

    Well, that was a conversation stopper. But, interestingly, no one argued with me.

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