The plot against Flynn and the meaning of “pretext”
As soon as I heard that Sidney Powell was on the Flynn appeal I figured she’d sink her formidable teeth into it.
And she has:
Powell’s most explosive charge is that the FBI falsified the Form 302 that recorded the content of its agents’ interview with Flynn in order to set him up for prosecution…
“Those changes added an unequivocal statement that “FLYNN stated he did not”—in response to whether Mr. Flynn had asked Kislyak to vote in a certain manner or slow down the UN vote. This is a deceptive manipulation because, as the notes of the agents show, Mr. Flynn was not even sure he had spoken to Russia/Kislyak on this issue. He had talked to dozens of countries. Exs. 9, 10, 11.
Second, they added: “or if KISLYAK described any Russian response to a request by FLYNN.” That question and answer do not appear in the notes, yet it was made into a criminal offense.”…
Many of the juicy tidbits come from texts between Peter Strzok and his illicit lover, Andrew McCabe’s Special Counsel Lisa Page. These texts have dribbled out over a considerable period of time, and I take it that at least some of the ones quoted here are new. For example:
“As news of the “salacious and unverified” allegations of the ‘Steele dossier’ dominated the media, Strzok wrote to Page: ‘Sitting with Bill watching CNN. A TON more out. . . We’re discussing whether, now that this is out, we can use it as a pretext to go interview some people.'”
Please read the whole thing.
And here we thought we’d seen a great many Strzok/Page texts. Well, we had, but not quite enough of them. It was always suspected (on the right, anyway) that some very important ones had been successfully deleted and/or were kept from public knowledge. And it continues to amaze me that the plotters – with their background and supposed knowledge in the field known as “intelligence” – carried on their business through text and email; how sloppy and reckless of them! They must have thought it impossible that any of this would come to light, or that it would matter if it did.
The word “pretext” in particular caught me eye. Was Strzok really saying what I thought he was saying, which was a candid admission that the leaks were used in order to start the investigation but were a fake reason to start it, a mere excuse? Yes, that’s the meaning of the word “pretext“: “a purpose or motive alleged or an appearance assumed in order to cloak the real intention or state of affairs.”
Doesn’t that just about say it all?
[NOTE: Powell appears to have a source within the DOJ or FBI giving her information and documents, which would explain some of these new revelations.
I began this post by saying I figured Powell would be a smart and aggressive advocate for Flynn. That’s because I’ve seen her speak before, and she immediately impressed me with the depth and breadth of her knowledge on the issue of government misdeeds of the legal variety. The first time I ever saw her, I wrote this:
…[L]ast night I happened across Mark Levin’s show on Fox, and saw an interview with Sidney Powell, an attorney who wrote Licensed to Lie: Exposing Corruption in the Department of Justice.
Please note her book’s date of publication: May 1, 2014. Therefore, it had to have been written some time before that—and certainly long before the FBI and the DOJ were engaged in investigating Donald Trump and his aides and acquaintances.
Powell herself immediately got my attention in a way that few speakers do. She was calm and logical, and presented a case so distressing—in particular about Andrew Weissmann, Mueller’s right-hand man, but hardly limited to him—that I was riveted for the entire interview…
Powell’s been talking about this for quite some time, too.]
It’s “The Gang That Couldn’t Coup Straight“.
Thanks be.
No surprise.
I’ll believe these abusers will be held accountable when their plea-bargains are inked. Not a moment earlier.
If Hillary had become president all of this would have been kept secret. When Donald Trump became president, the director of NSA, Admiral Rodgers, told Trump what was going on.
Political and cultural civil war. Not a zero sum game. A blood bath on both sides.
The idea that the senile Biden will return the nation to “normalcy” is pathetic.
CIA, FBI severely damaged. Democratic party stands for ?
If Republicans abandon Trump they are committing suicide.
Flynn getting to look a lot like our Dreyfus.
I think Barr and Durham have the bit between their teeth and fully intend to issue indictments. When the grand jury proceedings start at least one defendant will make a deal.
Dan Bongino has been on this; the 302s, for about two years now on his podcast, five days a week. A spy vs spy case (Mad Magazine not John le Carre’) but with abject idiots (FBI, CIA, DNI) who assumed, it seems, that no one would ever get to look at their deeds.
By the by, about those “302s” in general . . . doesn’t it seem as though the practice ought to be outlawed, forbidden, replaced with ordinary sound recording, if perhaps supplemented from time to time by independent court stenographers as need or demand arises? The entire process of 302 production just seems ripe for abuse, quite apart from the Flynn case. Which, abuse, I suppose is the whole point of retaining the outdated mode. Stinks altogether.
Neo, if Powell proves the FBI falsified the 302 could it call other cases into question?
The coup plotters really didn’t care what rules they ignored or violated, as long as they could construct the frame-up they needed to take down General Flynn.
I’m still not sure why Flynn was such an immediate and high priority a target–reportedly he wanted to audit Intelligence Community expenditures, or perhaps it was just taking him down would deny Trump a very knowledgeable and capable guide to the Deep State and a helper.
It is also obvious from how they proceeded that, never in a million years did they think, their machinations would be exposed and, so, they pretty much proceeded in the open, even filling out/altering documents, making phone calls, and writing emails they fully expected would be ignored, covered up, or destroyed.
A blood bath on both sides.
Probably. Beware overlapping and converging interests.
The Road to Syria–Obama Admin. KNEW Weapons Were Shipped from Benghazi to Syrian Rebels/Jihadists
A Libya-… Affair.
re: Libya-… Affair etc.
Is it plausible that Obama voted present for 8 years?
…the criminal complaint against Flynn should indeed be dismissed, and various people now or formerly at the FBI should face criminal prosecution.
No doubt. I wonder how the charges will read?
Yes, n.n, voting present is what Obama mostly did his whole life. The only exception might be the Iran deal, which makes us lucky he was only present the rest of the time.
Sydney Powell is an impressive lawyer. I have watched her several times on Fox News and she always gave the impression of being smart, tough, and ethical.
I believe Flynn was a major target because, as the head of DIA, he did not adhere to the Obama line. According to Angry Patriot.com blog:
“The veteran military officer went on to say he was trying to “change the culture” of the Defense Intelligence Agency from an entity which he felt focused far too much on what was going on in Washington, D.C. and spent too little time engaging with forward-based commanders and fighters.
“I knew then it had more to do with the stand I took on radical Islamism and the expansion of al Qaida and its associated movements,” Flynn also said. “I felt the intel system was way too politicized, especially in the Defense Department.”
http://www.angrypatriotmovement.com/why-obama-fired-gen-flynn/
He was fired by Obama because he was too anti-Islam. He also knew the players in the intelligence world. His advice would have helped Trump navigate the rocks and shoals of the Deep State. Obviously, he was a danger to the plotters at CIA and FBI.
I hope Powell gets the charges dropped and clears Flynn’s name. He deserves it. They bushwhacked him with malice of forethought.
As JJ says, Flynn was set up. I had heard he was a target because he already knew too much. He had been an insider kicked out for being too “mission oriented” instead of “organization oriented”. Org-focused folk take over every bureaucracy from mission-focused folk. (Pournelle’s Iron Law of Bureaucracy)
I recall also reading somewhere that Flynn pled guilty so as to stop the investigation of his son, for something. My guess is that the son is guilty, and the father is keeping his (false) guilty plea to protect the son. Thus, Powell is attacking the process. Good for her! More … guts for her than his prior lawyers.
How is it that no “Inspector General” has uncovered these documents before? Too much corruption and CYA, and too many mostly useless documents.
I’ve been cautiously hopeful for so long I’m already close to resignation of accepting the injustice of only a couple of top guys (Comey & McCabe; & Brennan) getting indicted, and we haven’t even seen that yet.
When will McCabe be indicted? for what crimes?
But I’ll keep my eyes out.
Also, I had read this powerline before, but feel much more at home commenting here with Neo than there. The comments here are good to read – and (usually) not too many.
With a little poem running between them.
(a poem, a poem!)
Or sometimes a dance.
So,let’s say that the charges get dropped, and General Flynn’s guilty plea is vacated.
Where does Flynn get all of the money back that he spent on legal representation so costly that it reportedly bankrupted him, and forced him to sell his house?
Where does General Flynn get his reputation back?
Where does General Flynn get his job back, if he wants it?
The answer, it looks like, is, he doesn’t.
(Unless, there is some way that Flynn can press a civil suit for damages, on the theory of wrongful prosecution/wrongful prosecution under color of law or some such. Except, as far as I am aware of, the Federal government i.e. most civil servants–as government employees–are generally immune to being sued for their actions.)
So, while the people who set hm up might get exposed, and some might possibly be tried, General Flynn has been gravely wounded, crippled, and taken off the board, which means that those who framed him have gotten a net win here.
P.S.–If President Trump wanted to mess even more with the minds of his enemies, and right some of this wrong, he’d rehire Flynn in some position of power in his administration.
Snow on Pine:
“If President Trump wanted to mess even more with the minds of his enemies, and right some of this wrong, he’d rehire Flynn in some position of power in his administration.”
Well that certainly would be a high crime or at least a misdemeanor! 🙂
A friend of mine who works in DOD circles told me years ago that a part of her job included working around, resisting, and obstructing Gen. Flynn’s orders, because the DOD bureacrats thought he was an idiot, which means, apparently, that he wanted to accomplish something contrary to their own wishes.
See Angelo Codevilla’s piece on false meritocracies.
https://amgreatness.com/2019/10/26/bureaucratic-rule-by-what-right/
Lee Smith, The Federalist [excepting Smith’s new book]: How The Obama Administration Set In Motion Democrats’ Coup Against Trump
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So, while the people who set hm up might get exposed, and some might possibly be tried, General Flynn has been gravely wounded, crippled, and taken off the board, which means that those who framed him have gotten a net win here.
The Divine Counsel still has a job for him if he wants to. You see, humanity destroys while the angels and gods create through joy and happiness. That’s not how it should be, but that is just how it is. Look around you.
Are you Proud of America First?
How is it that no “Inspector General” has uncovered these documents before? Too much corruption and CYA, and too many mostly useless documents.
I’ve been cautiously hopeful for so long I’m already close to resignation of accepting the injustice of only a couple of top guys (Comey & McCabe; & Brennan) getting indicted, and we haven’t even seen that yet.
Those aren’t the top guys. They are the cannonfodder.
If you had put someone like Ymar into power… but that’s crazy talk ; )
The problem with Trum is not that he is too extreme or too far right. He can never be more extreme than Ymar and never more right than Ymar. It has to do with the trinity and how Trum is too weak on certain matters due to how much he would loss (to Clinton) and how much he would lose (to the Deep State). If he goes too far, his entire family will go the way of JFK and he knows it. He also has DS Alliance guys telling him what to do.
Well that certainly would be a high crime or at least a misdemeanor!
Imagine if Trum put someone like Ymar into that position…
Oh yea, about that A Course in Miracles lesson I promised you.
https://acourseinmiraclesnow.com/course-miracles-chapter-4-iv-need-not/
It’s probably more useful if I reduce the practical aspects of the first lesson from before down into something that applies here, which I am working on.
Yammer doesn’t understand satire or humor or humans. He has a terminal wedgie from too many debriefings.
om on October 29, 2019 at 10:30 am said:
So what did you think about The Course above?
Yammer, I don’t seek out heresy or astrology or Gnosticism. Your tastes suit your own predilections.