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  1. Oh yes. Here is a primer on Ukraine.

    I think the Crowdstrike matter is the most interesting and probably as much as anything the cause of the hysteria. If the FBI can get hold of that server and can reconstruct the files, it will prove the Russians had nothing to do with the Wiki story.
    Of course, Crowdstrike is a Ukraine company.

  2. Thanks for this heavier lift Neo.

    This “ball of collusion” reminds me of the first Clinton presidential campaign. Someone idly wondered about potential conflicts of interest between Hillary the high powered Little Rock attorney and Bill the governor.

    Amid the banter about how a law firm could carefully pick and assign cases so as to avoid conflicts of interest, another person actually sifted through Hillary’s old cases. Supposedly, almost all of Hillary’s cases had connections with the gov’s office. What a surprise.

  3. McCarthy is an interesting case. He’s a straight arrow guy who thought he was part of a world of other straight arrow guys and that naiveté has been slowly nibbling at him for the last three years. My thoroughgoing antipathy for NeverTrumpers is at least partly because none of them ever seem to engage with or even acknowledge what McCarthy writes about this stuff.

    Mike

  4. The “whistleblower” is now being outed as a CIA protege of Brennan who was planted in the White House, probably as a spy.

    His name and associations will be public by the weekend.

  5. wiki (follow the names) : Shokin was appointed General Prosecutor of Ukraine on 10 February 2015. He became deeply unpopular and was accused of blocking major cases against allies and influential figures and hindering the fight against corruption in Ukraine. Various street protests demanding Shokin’s resignation were held[6] and his Deputy Prosecutor, Vitaly Kasko, resigned on 15 February 2016 denouncing the corruption and lawlessness of the Prosecutor’s office. US Vice-President Joe Biden lobbied for Shokin resignation and the Obama Administration withheld a billion dollars in loan guarantees for the time Shokin held office

    Since 2012, the Ukrainian prosecutor general had been investigating oligarch Mykola Zlochevsky, owner of the oil and natural gas company Burisma Holdings, over allegations of money laundering, tax evasion, and corruption.

    In 2014, then-U.S. Vice President Joe Biden’s son, Hunter Biden, joined the board of directors of Burisma Holdings.

    In 2015, Shokin became the prosecutor general, inheriting the investigation.

    The Obama administration and other governments and non-governmental organizations soon became concerned that Shokin was not adequately pursuing corruption in Ukraine, was protecting the political elite, and was regarded as “an obstacle to anti-corruption efforts”.

    Among other issues, he was slow-walking the investigation into Zlochevsky and Burisma – to the extent that Obama officials were considering launching their own criminal investigation into the company for possible money laundering.

    In March 2016, Joe Biden threatened Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko that if he did not fire Shokin, that the US would hold back its $1 billion in loan guarantees. “I looked at them and said, ‘I’m leaving in six hours. If the prosecutor is not fired, you’re not getting the money.’ […] He got fired. And they put in place someone who was solid at the time.” Shokin was dismissed by Parliament later that month.

    Shokin claimed in May 2019 that he had been investigating Burisma Holdings. However, Vitaliy Kasko, who had been Shokin’s deputy overseeing international cooperation before resigning in February 2016 citing corruption in the office, provided documents to Bloomberg News indicating that under Shokin, the investigation into Burisma had been dormant. Hunter Biden’s ties to Burisma Holdings was criticized as a conflict of interest in a New York Times editorial, though Amos Hochstein has claimed to have never seen coordination between Joe Biden and his son on the matter.

  6. Ukraine was too long a part of the Soviet Union to not be corrupt. Though they would like to be a real democracy with rule of law, it will take many years for them to overcome the “old ways.”

    We can hope the new regimen under Zelensky will be less corrupt, but it remains to be seen.

    John Solomon, Sara Carter, Greg Jarrett, Dan Bongino, Tom Fitton, Devin Nunes, and Peter Schweizer (To name as many as I can remember off the top of my head.) have done yeoman work on tracing the conspiracies against Trump as well as the corruption of Biden and the Clintons. Andrew McCarthy has been slowly realizing that it’s all true.

    Sadly, there are lawyers pontificating on TV that Trump is guilty of proffering a bribe in return for a favor. Yet they deflect as inconsequential the Biden act of leveraging $1 billion in U.S. loan guarantees to do his bidding or the three Democrat Senators who threatened to vote against Ukraine aid unless the Ukraines cooperated with the Mueller probe. Double standards and hypocrisy run amok.

    I have never been less trusting of our legal experts, our journalists, and Democrat politicians than I am right now. They are a bunch of mendacious blowhards.

  7. I’m not even going to try to digest all of that and I think it unnecessary given that, had not his son Hunter been under investigation… Biden would never have been the least bit concerned with corruption in the Ukraine.

    Biden bragging about getting the prosecutor fired is a plain case of hubris. He knows he’s untouchable.

    He enriched himself while the VP and, since he left office has acquired another $15 MILLION…

    He’s sure not getting that money for his oratorical skills.

    I’d speculate that he’s exceptionally corrupt but in the DC cesspool? Besides, compared to Obama…

    Biden is a remora (suckerfish) to Obama’s shark.

  8. “Manafort dismisses it as fake, contending that the Party of Regions paid him by wire transfer, not cash. Ukrainian officials have conceded that they cannot prove the payments reflected in the ledger were made. The case was thus reportedly closed with no charges. .. The ledger’s exposure, of course, is what led to Manafort’s ouster as Donald Trump’s campaign chairman.” – McCarthy

    I remember that part from discussions about Manafort’s arrest etc, which used the ledger despite the findings of the Ukrainians. The additonal revelations from McCarthy are very disturbing.

  9. Mike K on September 26, 2019 at 5:50 pm said:
    The “whistleblower” is now being outed as a CIA protege of Brennan who was planted in the White House, probably as a spy.

    His name and associations will be public by the weekend.
    * * *
    Weren’t there some reports a couple of weeks, or more, ago about the existence of a CIA mole in the WH? This has to be the same guy, unless Brennan inserted a whole squad — which he may have.

  10. So much filth in all of this. The story is out there, but not be reported on by the MSM. No action by any legal authority against any of them and I seriously doubt that there will be and actions taken. I am so very depressed about it all and there is nothing I can do to change things. Don’t say vote because that does not seem to change things either, except for Trump.

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