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  1. But they won’t let facts or grammar get in their way, they are morally correct. (Which means we are morally incorrect.)

    And they are insufferably arrogant.

    Make Sandy a bartender again.

  2. Hmmm. Mulling this over it seems from the jump to entail deep risks to the perpetrator vis a vis alienating Biden further from Team Iran (cough) Obama, given Biden’s possession of insider knowledge of the criminal conduct of the subterfuge and subsequent soft coup against the campaign and early administration of Pres. Trump. Or no?

    Does Team Iran Obama dare risk Biden’s ire this way? Perhaps, albeit very stupidly, if so.

    But by all means then let me urge that they carry on. Should make for interesting trials indeed.

  3. As someone who has worked in various capacities involving the federal government, I am personally dismayed at these kinds of collateral attacks against Trump. No one in the Intelligence Community has any kind of special constitutional sanctity or authority to undermine the legitimate discretion exercised by the President of the United States. This stuff just makes me really angry.

  4. I used to watch NASCAR races mostly to see the wrecks and from time to time a race would end with a crash on the final curve of the last lap with a number of cars sliding across the finish line upside down. During replays it would appear that a car a lap behind might clip the back end of a lead car just to knock it out of the race and in doing so mess up teammates ability to finish. That seems to be the best metaphor I can come up with for the Democrats right now including some of the rookies who can’t stay out of the way and announcers (reporters) who have no idea what is actual happening expanding on their own bias of the events. After a year or two watching NASCAR I realized that it was the same old mess, week after week, the drivers with the most money and backing would win the most points and throwing in a small woman with a bit of skill was probably good for media coverage for a little bit of time.

    With the known Biden & Son events that are historical fact I am thinking this is an on purpose knock out from some of the other Democrats and their media support otherwise it makes very little sense. Another week and another media Trump is evil addition to his perceived sins will just be a bonus for those in the left media who still think they are in charge of the story.

    And, just the way I used to watch NASCAR for the wrecks I keep on reading the news about the wreckage on the left and right, kind of like a cartoon vulture wondering what’s for dinner.

  5. Hard to argue with the publicly available video tape of Biden bragging, about how he intimidated the President of the Ukraine–telling him that unless he immediately fired that country’s AG, who was looking into the dodgy energy firm that was paying Biden’s son $50,000 dollars a month to sit on their board (Biden’s son with no experience or expertise in the energy field), that VP Biden (with the concurrence of President Obama) was going to pull a $1 billion dollar U.S. loan guarantee that the Ukraine desperately needed.

    Pretty hard to spin this as anything other than plain ol’ naked intimidation, and the demand for a clear quid pro quo.

  6. Hard to argue with the publicly available video tape

    You Tube has been removing the copies that exist. Fortunately, some have been downloaded. I’m sure the Trump campaign has a few copies if needed.

  7. Here’s the rationale from Bill Kristol’s Twitter account:

    “The president seems to have demanded that a foreign government provide information on a domestic political rival as a condition for foreign policy decisions by the United States. It’s obviously important to discover the whole truth of this possibly impeachable offense.”

    So that means more investigations of President Trump because of this “foreign interference.” But on the other hand would the Ukrainian government not have a desire to know that they themselves were free of political corruption and outside interference?

    Yet again, the intention is to portray everything and anything Trump-related in the most negative way possible. And at this point, it may not matter if Joe Biden literally shoots himself in his own foot with an AR-15. A lot of the coming 2020 election will be nothing but anti-Trump, no matter who is the candidate.

  8. Trump knows himself, and knows them. He is a mortal threat to their special, peculiar, and liberal progression.

  9. What’s really concerning is how all the people who should know better are encouraging this stuff. We’re not talking about the fringe here. The mainstream of the Democratic Party and the Left have gone all in on condoning and promoting lying, sensationalism, hate-mongering, and kooky conspiracy theories as long as they hurt Trump. What’s going to happen when Trump is gone? Do they think things will go back to “normal?” Do they actually think the mob to which they’ve fed nothing but anger, stupidity, and denial is going to allow that?

  10. You know what is happening when the lying Senator Pencil Neck, otherwise known as The Little Schi**, reappears to scream IMPEACH TRUMP.

    I was wondering when he would crawl out of his dank cave again. I urge him to walk the streets of Los Angeles and San Francisco in his bare feet.

  11. I just want all of you to remember, that when we are considering which Presidential candidate can take on our adversaries–mano-a-mano–there is one shining example, Joe Biden and his epic, West Side Story-like confrontation–steel chain vs. rusty straight razor–with the infamous “bad dude” “Corn Pop,” or maybe it was “Pop Corn,” or maybe even “Jimmy crack corn,” anyway, one of those “bad dudes.”

  12. Biden bragged about his threat to withhold a billion from Ukraine. It was recorded on video. If Biden’s action was criminal, is YouTube guilty of destruction of evidence by taking down the video?.

  13. Neo, that’s been my question. Cui bono? A “whistleblower” who isn’t one, spreading hearsay, is pretty thin.

  14. “…pretty thin…”

    Essentially, it’s “Trump’s Collusion with Russia: the Sequel”.

    If Sly Stallone can come out with Rambo 1001 (yawn), why shouldn’t Sly Democrats be able to do the same?

    (Especially when they know in advance that the reviews they’ll get from the MSM will range from “Spectacular Artistry!” to “Must See – A Masterpiece Not to Be Missed!”…and everything in between….)

    File under: “That’s entertainment”.

  15. Dems and RINOs are either evil, stupid, entrenched elitists or a combination thereof.
    Show me one president who has done more to keep his campaign promises than Trump in the last century, just one. Maybe Coolidge, but now one else; each was a bigger liar than the next. Wislson, FDR who loved Uncle Joe and surrendered All of Eastern Europe to the USSR, Carter, Clinton and his beloved Hillary, Obama—All Dems, all snakes.

  16. Ever notice how often these “leaks” end up with the media and the Dems stepping all over their own dangly parts?

    Once is happenstance, twice is coincidence, thrice is enemy action.

  17. “I keep on reading the news about the wreckage on the left and right, kind of like a cartoon vulture wondering what’s for dinner.” – OldTexan

    “Elmer Fudd goes wabbit huntin’.” – timothy burke

    Let’s throw in Wiley Coyote’s perpetual backfires and I think we have a show.

  18. Best description of our political races (great analogy from OldTexan).

    “We’ve been here, done that, dozens of times. Is this time different? Will they “get” Trump on this? As with the Russia Collusion claims, I’ll take it seriously when there is actual evidence. Until then, it’s just politically driven mischief masquerading as news.” – William Jacobson at Legal Insurrection

    https://legalinsurrection.com/2019/09/joe-biden-and-ukraine-is-hillarys-emails-all-over-again/

  19. https://legalinsurrection.com/2019/05/dem-fear-hillary-is-to-emails-as-biden-is-to-ukraine-china/

    Dem fear: Hillary is to emails, as Biden is to (Ukraine? China?)
    Posted by William A. Jacobson Sunday, May 12, 2019 at 9:00pm

    Contrary to Hillary’s claim of a vast right-wing conspiracy, it’s unlikely anyone is coordinating this response. Conservatives and Republicans are “pouncing” and “seizing” on Biden’s potential Ukraine and China conflicts because … well … look at how Hillary’s email scandal sapped the strength from her and her campaign. As panicked as Democrats and the media are, conservatives and Republicans sense a problem that may not go away.

    Maybe these are just wild conspiracy theories, connecting dots that shouldn’t be connected. But Democrats can hardly complain about that, having spent almost three years on a false Russia collusion conspiracy theory. As with the Trump collusion conspiracy theory, falsehoods can linger and cause damage to a politician even if untrue or overblown.

    If we start hearing protests that people are picking on Biden’s family, that’s a tell. Remember, the people protesting coverage of Biden’s family conflicts are the same people who relentlessly attack Trump’s adult children.

    In the case of Hillary Clinton, there was much truth to accusations of her malfeasance as to emails and her email server. In order for Biden-Ukraine and Biden-China to rise to the level of Hillary’s emails, there’s going to have to be a there there. And if there is a there there, there is where you can expect Trump and Republicans to go.

  20. Some of them try to do these things as part of a coherent strategy to get their favorite, or any Democrat, elected. Yet I think you have hit it correctly in your third-to-last paragraph. They do this because they can’t stop themselves. Rage overtakes them repeatedly.

    Remember the scorpion and the frog.

  21. Red State reminds us that the puzzle pieces eventually fit together.
    How interesting that the Dems insistence on pursuing Trump for non-existent collusion with Russia ends with them being exposed as colluding with (some people) in Ukraine.

    https://www.redstate.com/elizabeth-vaughn/2019/09/22/u.s.-embassy-pressured-ukrainian-officials-end-investigation-soros-group-2016

    Anyone who’s ever worked on a jigsaw puzzle knows that the process is tedious in the beginning. First, we place all the similar colored pieces in small groups, try various configurations and then we see how two groups might fit together and so on. At a certain point, the progress becomes faster until finally, a picture starts to emerge.

    We’ve reached the point where old information that once seemed disconnected and meaningless now makes sense based on new developments.

    https://www.redstate.com/elizabeth-vaughn/2019/09/22/real-foreign-collusion-occurred-pro-clinton-ukrainians-dnc/

    For three years, Democrats and the mainstream media have flooded the airwaves with stories about President Trump’s collusion with Russia or his attempts to obstruct the investigation. There were a few voices, very few, who began pointing out the real foreign collusion that occurred throughout 2016. Fox News’ Dan Bongino and The Hill’s John Solomon were two of the earliest to recognize the coordination between corrupt pro-Hillary Clinton Ukrainians and the Democratic National Committee. Although Clinton lost the election, the effects of their interference can still be felt today. Especially for Paul Manafort.

  22. Ann, it’s always good to see what’s playing on the two movie screens that our current political situation encompasses.
    Here’s another story pushing the Intercept’s script: “Biden’s strong-arming of Ukraine is a total non-story and look at all of the problems with Trump’s side.”

    http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/09/trumps-ukraine-scandal-is-hiding-in-plain-sight.html

    ‘Who knows what/whom to believe in all this.”
    That’s the whole point of being able to read more than one movie review.

    Without more actual facts-on-the-ground, it is indeed very hard for the outside lay observer to determine what picture the puzzle will show when it is finally completed, assuming that ever happens.

    However, we can make a judgment about the probablility that one side of the story is closer to the truth than the other, by noting that the Intercept/Intelligencer folks supported a three year investigation into Russian collusion by President Trump that only turned up additional evidence of Russian collusion by the Democrats.

  23. My caveat: puzzle pieces have to consist of facts, not speculations.
    So, here is another one that will help determine the final picture.

    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2019/09/22/its-deja-vu-all-over-again-the-ukraine-effort-is-simply-obstruction-2-0/

    It should be emphasized the Inspector General for the Intelligence Community; the guy who accepted the ridiculous premise of a hearsay ‘whistle-blower‘ complaint who was “blowing-the-whistle” based on second hand information of a phone call without any direct personal knowledge; is Michael K. Atkinson.

    Atkinson’s self-interest: Michael K Atkinson was previously the Senior Counsel to the Assistant Attorney General of the National Security Division of the Department of Justice. That makes Atkinson Senior counsel to John Carlin and Mary McCord at the DOJ-NSD in 2016.

    Put another way, Michael Atkinson was the lawyer for the same DOJ-NDS players who: (1) lied to the FISA court (Judge Rosemary Collyer) about the 80% non compliant NSA database abuse using FBI contractors; (2) filed the FISA application against Carter Page; and (3) used FARA violations as tools for political surveillance and political targeting.

    Yes, that means Michael Atkinson was Senior Counsel for the DOJ-NSD, at the very epicenter of the political weaponization and FISA abuse.

    If the DOJ-NSD FISA abuse and/or FARA corruption were ever to reach sunlight, Atkinson -as the lawyer for the process- would be under a lot of scrutiny for his involvement. Yes, that gives current ICIG Michael Atkinson a strong and corrupt motive to participate with the Lawfare objective.

  24. Thanks, Ann, for The Intercept article.
    When Hitler said Stalin was terrible, and Stalin said Hitler was terrible, who was lying?
    They were both being truthful – both were terrible. Stalin actually worse for the non-murdered, but Hitler losing the war with bad publicity.

    Ukraine has pro-Russian corrupt oligarchs and pro-EU corrupt oligarchs, and activists against both groups.

    However, if firing the (pro-Russian?) prosecutor Shokin, after Biden’s threat, doesn’t mean a corruption investigation into Hunter Biden’s gas company Burisma, then the firing WAS about stopping that corruption investigation.

    The key fact is whether or not Ukraine is really investigating. I don’t know.

    But all the Ukraine sides with money are corrupt; similar to all oligarchs under Putin being corrupt tax avoiders.

    Pro-democracy advocates are far too naïve about how easy it is to support corruption, and be corrupt, in uncertain new democracies where the elected politicians are poor, but most of the “successful” are crooks smart enough to get away with it.

    $50,000 / month, 600k / year, looks like a bribe to H. Biden to get Joe Biden’s support. The mess should certainly be investigated.

    But almost certainly, there aren’t enough clean cops to do a clean job in the investigation.

    Kind of Trump’s problem about investigating the dirty cops in the FBI, and the general security problem — who watchers the watchers?

  25. It’s not only the Ukraine.

    How was it that, according to reports, while he was VP, Biden took his son along on an official trip to China and, somehow, a short time later, Biden’s son’s equity company received a $1.5 billion dollar investment from a Chinese state owned bank?

    Some coinkydink, huh?

    What is it with these Bidens?

    In some mysterious way, every time Biden goes overseas–and talks to people here and there–someone in his family has the most astonishing luck, and by incredible coincidence, pretty soon thereafter is rolling in money that practically rains down on them from the sky.

  26. As I understand it:

    1. The “whistle blower” was not a party to the conversation and did not have direct knowledge of what was discussed.

    2. Even so, the “whistle blower” claimed that there was no quid pro quo.

    3. The President of Ukraine has stated that he was not pressured to restart the investigation.

    On the other hand, we have Biden on tape bragging that he would withdraw $1 billion in U.S. loan guarantees if the man who was investigating the company that Biden’s son sat on the Board of was not fired in 6 hours.

    But that is apparently no big deal.

  27. How was it that, according to reports, while he was VP, Biden took his son along on an official trip to China and, somehow, a short time later, Biden’s son’s equity company received a $1.5 billion dollar investment from a Chinese state owned bank?

    Oh, there was a John Kerry sprout in there, too. Funny how birds of a feather collect.

  28. Oh, there was a John Kerry sprout in there, too.

    I think it was Theresa’s son. John Kerry has no sons, just daughters, and neither of them works for any kind of commercial business (one’s a physician).

  29. Yes, I can see it all now, that soon to be legendary meeting in the Ukraine, when the leaders of energy company Burisma met Joe Biden’s son, Hunter, looked him over, and told him that, “they liked the cut of his jib,” and that it would be an honor for them to have him, the son of the valiant warrior who faced down “tough dude” gang leader Crispy Creme, sit on their board of directors.

    Yes, they’d tell Biden’s son, even in the Ukraine we have heard of your Father’s valor and might, for the tale was brought to us by several of the 722 million women—idle now—that your father is proposing to put back into the work force.

  30. “How was it that, according to reports, while he was VP, Biden took his son along on an official trip to China and, somehow, a short time later, Biden’s son’s equity company received a $1.5 billion dollar investment from a Chinese state owned bank?”

    ‘Who are you to voice such impertinent questions? What, do you think this is a republic or something? Do you think that you have standing to ask? No. Your formerly imagined rights are now forfeit, as they have been shown to be mere litanies of unjustifiable privilege and roadblocks to the perfection of justice.

    You have only duties now; the first of which is to shut up, racist warmonger. Since your very coming into existence was no more than the result of crimes committed against human progress and the earth itself, it’s obvious that your sin of origins cannot be mitigated. Your second duty therefore, is to drop dead, and to leave the keys to your ill-gotten privilege in the door as you vacate.

    That about covers it.

    Oh, we may need to keep you around long enough to show us how to operate the machinery, but after that, your carbon footprinting days are over.’

  31. The long desert journey continues in hopes of finding scandal fantasies. Emotions tell the faithful that scandals are out there. If one only trudges far enough, dirt trophies will be found, and a prized scalp obtained. Along the way, shimmering lakes and ponds appear in the distance. The scandal seekers breathlessly run to each, only to find yet another mirage.

    After one or two of these frustrations, reasonable thoughts suggest the futile nature of their quest. But those are rejected in favor of swearing that the cracked dry desert patches they trekked to were actual ponds and lakes moments earlier. Alas, Mueller team, why did you fail us?

    We observers of the madness might pause in our amusement to reflect on its underlying cause. A demonizing mental pattern was sold to the scandal seekers by the community organizer who preceded our orange matador. That charlatan is not unique in history. Therefor take heed, lest we fall prey to our own demonizing impulses.

  32. Looks like we’ve strayed onto a creative writing blog somehow.
    I expect to see Biden the Barbarian any moment now..
    “Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentation of the women!”

  33. J. E. Dyer puts a stake into the vampire’s heart.

    https://libertyunyielding.com/2019/09/23/an-actual-no-kidding-reason-for-trumps-review-of-military-aid-to-ukraine/

    That certainly bears a resemblance to the media-Democrat theme factory that hasn’t scrupled, for the last 15-plus years, to simply make things up about Trump, Obama’s electoral opponents in 2012 and 2008, and George W. Bush.

    But now we can also remind ourselves of the record that’s been out there all along. The Trump administration had the entire European Deterrence Initiative, which includes the military aid for Ukraine, under review for multiple reasons. And a reason that actually produced consequences was this simple one: Trump was looking for ways to shift defense funds and use them for the border wall.

    Despise that policy choice as seems good to you. But it’s an unvarnished, pre-spin record of what happened. It’s been there in plain sight.

  34. AesopFan–Actually, in honor of Biden’s “warrior spirit”–“where’s my warrior spirit, where’s may warrior spirit, I know I left it here somewhere, get busy and find it, somebody look under that chair over there”–I think that Biden should use the main theme from the sound track from “Conan the Barbarian” as his campaign theme song–you know, those pounding drums, and the “days of high adventure.”

  35. Horns sharpened to twinkling points, over and over scandal seekers charge the orange matador. Olé! And again, olé!
    But the wise are circumspect in subdued reaction, knowing there could be more lives in their future. Better to not be reborn as a tortured bull – worse yet, an enraged scandal seeker.
    The Trump era will pass, just as the echo of the roaring crowd fades with the setting sun.

  36. So, it was Bill Kristol who started the “Biden did nothing wrong, it’s Trump who is the bad one,” trope. I should have guessed. I saw that in the Washington Post this morning, and thought they started it, but obviously, Kristol got there first. These nitwits don’t realize Trump is trolling them. There more they bring this up, the more Biden is exposed. I’m guess Trump’s strategy is that he’d rather run against one of the Commies than Biden, who at least, when he’s lucid, can remember there once was something called the Democratic Party.

  37. Biden: “Before America was… I AM (YHVH) still interested in feeling what your child’s neck is like”.

    Jewish Rabbi: “Blasphemy! Kill Him!”

    Biden: “Hello Deep State X Files executive, I have some rabbi that needs to disappear soon”.

    Antifa: “Divest and Kill the Rabbi!”

  38. “These nitwits don’t realize Trump is trolling them. There more they bring this up, the more Biden is exposed.” – Richard

    I was thinking along the lines of the first foray of Project Veritas, where O’Keefe would release a short video, the Democrats would put out all sorts of exculpatory “reasons” — and he would release the next video shooting them down.
    That went on for several cycles, and now for several years with other stings.
    I don’t think they learned a thing.

  39. The other thing about Project Veritas was that the Democrats, once busted, shifted their complaints to the videos being unimportant, or not relevant, or maliciously edited…anything but admit they were lying.

    https://www.breitbart.com/2020-election/2019/09/24/democrats-shift-goal-posts-demand-more-than-phone-call-transcript-after-trump-says-hell-release-it/

    Democrats are demanding President Trump do more to prove that he did not try to pressure Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky to investigate Joe Biden’s son, after Trump announced Tuesday he would release the transcript of his phone call with Zelensky in July.

    Although Democrats have demanded that Trump release the transcript, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) said after Trump’s tweet that it did not matter if the transcript was released and no quid pro quo was found, but rather, it was about the “sequencing” of his actions.

    Journalists and former Obama officials also demanded Trump release more, including a whistleblower complaint made to the intelligence community inspector general reportedly about the call.

    According to CNN, the whistleblower did not have direct knowledge of the details of the president’s call with Zelensky.

    Rep. Mark Meadows (R-NC) tweeted that after Trump said he would release the transcript, “amazingly Democrats now say the whistleblower complaint is more important.”

    He added, “Folks, the ‘whistleblower’ wasn’t on the call. They think a secondhand account of the call will tell you more than the *actual call.*”

    Seems like we’ve seen this maneuver before.

  40. I think this all but makes it certain that Warren is the nominee.

    And I’m not buying the theory that Trump wants this impeachment garbage to go forward. There is no way that this constant drumbeat helps him. If anything it just leads to a stronger likelihood of a wave of ‘return to normalcy’ sweeping Warren to victory. Too many care little about policy but about all the nonstop drama and the media will do everything in their power to cover all of Warrens many scary policies.

  41. As Dyer said a couple of days ago –(AesopFan on September 23, 2019 at 10:06 pm said:) — there is no link between the Ukraine phone call and the aid slowdown.

    https://www.redstate.com/bonchie/2019/09/24/latest-trump-ukraine-bombshell-another-dud/

    This is apparently what passes for intellectual thought in certain parts of the conservative sphere. We’ve already known for months that the aid to Ukraine was held up. In fact, Republican Senators commented on the matter weeks ago before any of this latest craziness blew up, citing the need for Europe to get more involved. The question has never been if Trump put a hold on the aid. It’s why he did so and if he used that hold improperly. To this point, Rothman and others have yet to provide one ounce of evidence that Trump brought up the aid to Ukraine to try to extort them. Instead, we are left arguing feelings and supposition, as per usual.

    As to his last statement, there are actually good kinds of quid pro quos when it comes to doling out foreign aid. Most Americans realize that. If Trump held the aid back because he wanted Europe to do more to provide for their neighbor’s defense, there’s nothing wrong with that at all. That’d actually be a good thing. Further, if that wasn’t the reason as the media and others suppose, then why did Trump not even bring up the aid in the call to the Ukrainian president? If he wanted to use it as leverage improperly, why didn’t he do so? Why was the aid released without an investigation?

    Those are pretty important questions to grapple with, don’t you think? At some point, all these conspiracy theorists who are sure Trump did something wrong need to provide some actual evidence for their latest claims.

    The first sentence refers to the outcry against Trump from the Right more than from the Left, as exemplified by Noah Rothman’s* tweet:

    Condolences if you were an R who climbed out on the limb that there was no quid pro quo. Trump sawed it off today.

    “Trump confirms he withheld military aid from Ukraine” https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2019/09/24/trump-confirms-he-withheld-military-aid-from-ukraine-says-he-wants-other-countries-to-help-pay/

    As Bonchie said,

    Wait, so Trump withheld the aid temporarily, but then reversed course and did not use it as leverage over Ukraine to investigate Biden? That’s the bombshell? Notice the sub-heading saying it “raises further questions.” They actually have nothing here, but the narrative must advance.

    That’s not how any of this works. You either do something or you don’t. Presidents don’t get impeached for thinking about doing things, even if those things are dumb.

    *Rothman wrote briefly for Hot Air some years ago, and was not well received by the commentariat there. In fact, the response to his generally ill-thought-out and worse-written posts was rather vitriolic; my own comments were in the more modest tone of friendly advice to a would-be pundit. 😉
    IMNSHO, one reason Salem shut down the comments and moved to FaceBook registration — which precipitated a massive withdrawal of that bunch of readers — was the wounded feelings of himself and his sponsors.
    I haven’t seen much more intellectually impressive work at Commentary, but at least his articles (though longer) are more coherent.

  42. Sen. Richard Burr acts like he knows he is dirty; knows his own complicity in the soft coup actions; knows he may be caught out, and therefore works still to pull the President down.

    Now these are appearances to me, merely. Nevertheless, mere appearances or no, I can find no respect for the man whatsoever. He is bad and that’s it.

  43. AesopFan,

    The decline of Hot Air has been rapid. For me it’s not just Allahpundit and Ed and their never ending Never Trump crap but the selections at the top have become nothing but NYT, WaPo anti Trump stuff and Never Trumper non sense.

    Who do they think their audience is I wonder.

  44. Griffin – totally agree. I began my addiction to blog reading with Capt’n Ed Morrisey, and always enjoyed his essays (still do, occasionally), but never did like AP very much. My pleasure there (as it is here to a great extent) was interacting with the commenters, who had a wide range of life experiences and much wisdom to impart on the broad range of political and social doings.
    J. E. Dyer and John Hayward also came to prominence out of that blog’s “Greenroom” postings.
    Salem torpedoed that deliberately.
    I still read Jazz Shaw occasionally, but I don’t go there for news and views anymore.

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