The whistleblower and the Biden boomerang
It has occurred to me and many others that the charges the media is currently salivating about against Trump, those concerning Ukraine and Joe Biden and the supposed whistleblower (who might not actually be a whistleblower), may ultimately boomerang back to hurt Joe Biden far more than they hurt Trump.
And that this might have been part of the plan – a twofer, as it were, to harm both Trump and Biden.
Now, who would want to harm Biden? Well, most of the other Democratic candidates – and/or anyone on the left (or among NeverTrumpers) who knows that, if Biden becomes the Democratic nominee, his previous comments about putting the screws on Ukraine could sink him. Not to mention the effect of Biden’s own sinking cognitive faculties, which may become even more apparent as time goes on.
If you want to read more speculation on the matter, please see this as well as this.
Found at the latter:
This is the real and only story! pic.twitter.com/4z8eOcm6PA
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) September 21, 2019
Although there may be many people who would like to take down Biden, I believe that the main motive for most of those people remains to get Trump. They would leave Biden alone, and let him become the Democratic nominee no matter what he had done, if they thought he was a good candidate to defeat Trump.
Their desire to get Trump has not abated over time; it has only grown. Part of this is rage, part of it contempt, and most of it is their desire for power.
But some of them also have a conviction that they are correct about Trump’s evil nature, and that if they just keep digging, they are sure to find evidence of that evil. So each time something surfaces that has even the smallest chance of destroying him, they latch onto it and actually believe it, welcoming it with joyous relief that finally, finally, their dreams are going to come true.
They will never give up.
But they won’t let facts or grammar get in their way, they are morally correct. (Which means we are morally incorrect.)
And they are insufferably arrogant.
Make Sandy a bartender again.
Hmmm. Mulling this over it seems from the jump to entail deep risks to the perpetrator vis a vis alienating Biden further from Team
Iran(cough) Obama, given Biden’s possession of insider knowledge of the criminal conduct of the subterfuge and subsequent soft coup against the campaign and early administration of Pres. Trump. Or no?Does Team
IranObama dare risk Biden’s ire this way? Perhaps, albeit very stupidly, if so.But by all means then let me urge that they carry on. Should make for interesting trials indeed.
As someone who has worked in various capacities involving the federal government, I am personally dismayed at these kinds of collateral attacks against Trump. No one in the Intelligence Community has any kind of special constitutional sanctity or authority to undermine the legitimate discretion exercised by the President of the United States. This stuff just makes me really angry.
I used to watch NASCAR races mostly to see the wrecks and from time to time a race would end with a crash on the final curve of the last lap with a number of cars sliding across the finish line upside down. During replays it would appear that a car a lap behind might clip the back end of a lead car just to knock it out of the race and in doing so mess up teammates ability to finish. That seems to be the best metaphor I can come up with for the Democrats right now including some of the rookies who can’t stay out of the way and announcers (reporters) who have no idea what is actual happening expanding on their own bias of the events. After a year or two watching NASCAR I realized that it was the same old mess, week after week, the drivers with the most money and backing would win the most points and throwing in a small woman with a bit of skill was probably good for media coverage for a little bit of time.
With the known Biden & Son events that are historical fact I am thinking this is an on purpose knock out from some of the other Democrats and their media support otherwise it makes very little sense. Another week and another media Trump is evil addition to his perceived sins will just be a bonus for those in the left media who still think they are in charge of the story.
And, just the way I used to watch NASCAR for the wrecks I keep on reading the news about the wreckage on the left and right, kind of like a cartoon vulture wondering what’s for dinner.
Hard to argue with the publicly available video tape of Biden bragging, about how he intimidated the President of the Ukraine–telling him that unless he immediately fired that country’s AG, who was looking into the dodgy energy firm that was paying Biden’s son $50,000 dollars a month to sit on their board (Biden’s son with no experience or expertise in the energy field), that VP Biden (with the concurrence of President Obama) was going to pull a $1 billion dollar U.S. loan guarantee that the Ukraine desperately needed.
Pretty hard to spin this as anything other than plain ol’ naked intimidation, and the demand for a clear quid pro quo.
Hard to argue with the publicly available video tape
You Tube has been removing the copies that exist. Fortunately, some have been downloaded. I’m sure the Trump campaign has a few copies if needed.
Dementia and degeneracy. The Joe and Hunter Show is coming to town.
Here’s the rationale from Bill Kristol’s Twitter account:
“The president seems to have demanded that a foreign government provide information on a domestic political rival as a condition for foreign policy decisions by the United States. It’s obviously important to discover the whole truth of this possibly impeachable offense.”
So that means more investigations of President Trump because of this “foreign interference.” But on the other hand would the Ukrainian government not have a desire to know that they themselves were free of political corruption and outside interference?
Yet again, the intention is to portray everything and anything Trump-related in the most negative way possible. And at this point, it may not matter if Joe Biden literally shoots himself in his own foot with an AR-15. A lot of the coming 2020 election will be nothing but anti-Trump, no matter who is the candidate.
Elmer Fudd goes wabbit huntin’.
Trump knows himself, and knows them. He is a mortal threat to their special, peculiar, and liberal progression.
What’s really concerning is how all the people who should know better are encouraging this stuff. We’re not talking about the fringe here. The mainstream of the Democratic Party and the Left have gone all in on condoning and promoting lying, sensationalism, hate-mongering, and kooky conspiracy theories as long as they hurt Trump. What’s going to happen when Trump is gone? Do they think things will go back to “normal?” Do they actually think the mob to which they’ve fed nothing but anger, stupidity, and denial is going to allow that?
You know what is happening when the lying Senator Pencil Neck, otherwise known as The Little Schi**, reappears to scream IMPEACH TRUMP.
I was wondering when he would crawl out of his dank cave again. I urge him to walk the streets of Los Angeles and San Francisco in his bare feet.
I just want all of you to remember, that when we are considering which Presidential candidate can take on our adversaries–mano-a-mano–there is one shining example, Joe Biden and his epic, West Side Story-like confrontation–steel chain vs. rusty straight razor–with the infamous “bad dude” “Corn Pop,” or maybe it was “Pop Corn,” or maybe even “Jimmy crack corn,” anyway, one of those “bad dudes.”
Since when did snitches or leakers become whistle blowers?
https://www.theroot.com/joe-biden-s-corn-pop-story-is-a-parable-about-how-white-1838161871
An essay on Corn Pop and Chain Man from The Root.
Biden bragged about his threat to withhold a billion from Ukraine. It was recorded on video. If Biden’s action was criminal, is YouTube guilty of destruction of evidence by taking down the video?.
Neo, that’s been my question. Cui bono? A “whistleblower” who isn’t one, spreading hearsay, is pretty thin.
Do they think things will go back to “normal?” Do they actually think the mob to which they’ve fed nothing but anger, stupidity, and denial is going to allow that?
I might suggest Kurt Schlicter’s “The People’s Republic,” which was written when he expected Hillary to win.
“…pretty thin…”
Essentially, it’s “Trump’s Collusion with Russia: the Sequel”.
If Sly Stallone can come out with Rambo 1001 (yawn), why shouldn’t Sly Democrats be able to do the same?
(Especially when they know in advance that the reviews they’ll get from the MSM will range from “Spectacular Artistry!” to “Must See – A Masterpiece Not to Be Missed!”…and everything in between….)
File under: “That’s entertainment”.
Dems and RINOs are either evil, stupid, entrenched elitists or a combination thereof.
Show me one president who has done more to keep his campaign promises than Trump in the last century, just one. Maybe Coolidge, but now one else; each was a bigger liar than the next. Wislson, FDR who loved Uncle Joe and surrendered All of Eastern Europe to the USSR, Carter, Clinton and his beloved Hillary, Obama—All Dems, all snakes.
They desire, above all things, Power.
They are the Ring Wraiths of our time.
Ever notice how often these “leaks” end up with the media and the Dems stepping all over their own dangly parts?
Once is happenstance, twice is coincidence, thrice is enemy action.
“I keep on reading the news about the wreckage on the left and right, kind of like a cartoon vulture wondering what’s for dinner.” – OldTexan
“Elmer Fudd goes wabbit huntin’.” – timothy burke
Let’s throw in Wiley Coyote’s perpetual backfires and I think we have a show.
Best description of our political races (great analogy from OldTexan).
“We’ve been here, done that, dozens of times. Is this time different? Will they “get” Trump on this? As with the Russia Collusion claims, I’ll take it seriously when there is actual evidence. Until then, it’s just politically driven mischief masquerading as news.” – William Jacobson at Legal Insurrection
https://legalinsurrection.com/2019/09/joe-biden-and-ukraine-is-hillarys-emails-all-over-again/
https://legalinsurrection.com/2019/05/dem-fear-hillary-is-to-emails-as-biden-is-to-ukraine-china/
Dem fear: Hillary is to emails, as Biden is to (Ukraine? China?)
Posted by William A. Jacobson Sunday, May 12, 2019 at 9:00pm
Some of them try to do these things as part of a coherent strategy to get their favorite, or any Democrat, elected. Yet I think you have hit it correctly in your third-to-last paragraph. They do this because they can’t stop themselves. Rage overtakes them repeatedly.
Remember the scorpion and the frog.
Red State reminds us that the puzzle pieces eventually fit together.
How interesting that the Dems insistence on pursuing Trump for non-existent collusion with Russia ends with them being exposed as colluding with (some people) in Ukraine.
https://www.redstate.com/elizabeth-vaughn/2019/09/22/u.s.-embassy-pressured-ukrainian-officials-end-investigation-soros-group-2016
https://www.redstate.com/elizabeth-vaughn/2019/09/22/real-foreign-collusion-occurred-pro-clinton-ukrainians-dnc/
https://www.redstate.com/bonchie/2019/09/20/predicted-trump-ukraine-whistle-blower-story-blew/
AesopFan — There’s a different take on those “puzzle pieces” at The Intercept.
Who knows what/whom to believe in all this. Ukraine sounds like a nightmare.
Ann, it’s always good to see what’s playing on the two movie screens that our current political situation encompasses.
Here’s another story pushing the Intercept’s script: “Biden’s strong-arming of Ukraine is a total non-story and look at all of the problems with Trump’s side.”
http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/09/trumps-ukraine-scandal-is-hiding-in-plain-sight.html
‘Who knows what/whom to believe in all this.”
That’s the whole point of being able to read more than one movie review.
Without more actual facts-on-the-ground, it is indeed very hard for the outside lay observer to determine what picture the puzzle will show when it is finally completed, assuming that ever happens.
However, we can make a judgment about the probablility that one side of the story is closer to the truth than the other, by noting that the Intercept/Intelligencer folks supported a three year investigation into Russian collusion by President Trump that only turned up additional evidence of Russian collusion by the Democrats.
My caveat: puzzle pieces have to consist of facts, not speculations.
So, here is another one that will help determine the final picture.
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2019/09/22/its-deja-vu-all-over-again-the-ukraine-effort-is-simply-obstruction-2-0/
Thanks, Ann, for The Intercept article.
When Hitler said Stalin was terrible, and Stalin said Hitler was terrible, who was lying?
They were both being truthful – both were terrible. Stalin actually worse for the non-murdered, but Hitler losing the war with bad publicity.
Ukraine has pro-Russian corrupt oligarchs and pro-EU corrupt oligarchs, and activists against both groups.
However, if firing the (pro-Russian?) prosecutor Shokin, after Biden’s threat, doesn’t mean a corruption investigation into Hunter Biden’s gas company Burisma, then the firing WAS about stopping that corruption investigation.
The key fact is whether or not Ukraine is really investigating. I don’t know.
But all the Ukraine sides with money are corrupt; similar to all oligarchs under Putin being corrupt tax avoiders.
Pro-democracy advocates are far too naïve about how easy it is to support corruption, and be corrupt, in uncertain new democracies where the elected politicians are poor, but most of the “successful” are crooks smart enough to get away with it.
$50,000 / month, 600k / year, looks like a bribe to H. Biden to get Joe Biden’s support. The mess should certainly be investigated.
But almost certainly, there aren’t enough clean cops to do a clean job in the investigation.
Kind of Trump’s problem about investigating the dirty cops in the FBI, and the general security problem — who watchers the watchers?
It’s not only the Ukraine.
How was it that, according to reports, while he was VP, Biden took his son along on an official trip to China and, somehow, a short time later, Biden’s son’s equity company received a $1.5 billion dollar investment from a Chinese state owned bank?
Some coinkydink, huh?
What is it with these Bidens?
In some mysterious way, every time Biden goes overseas–and talks to people here and there–someone in his family has the most astonishing luck, and by incredible coincidence, pretty soon thereafter is rolling in money that practically rains down on them from the sky.
As I understand it:
1. The “whistle blower” was not a party to the conversation and did not have direct knowledge of what was discussed.
2. Even so, the “whistle blower” claimed that there was no quid pro quo.
3. The President of Ukraine has stated that he was not pressured to restart the investigation.
On the other hand, we have Biden on tape bragging that he would withdraw $1 billion in U.S. loan guarantees if the man who was investigating the company that Biden’s son sat on the Board of was not fired in 6 hours.
But that is apparently no big deal.
How was it that, according to reports, while he was VP, Biden took his son along on an official trip to China and, somehow, a short time later, Biden’s son’s equity company received a $1.5 billion dollar investment from a Chinese state owned bank?
Oh, there was a John Kerry sprout in there, too. Funny how birds of a feather collect.
Oh, there was a John Kerry sprout in there, too.
I think it was Theresa’s son. John Kerry has no sons, just daughters, and neither of them works for any kind of commercial business (one’s a physician).
Yes, I can see it all now, that soon to be legendary meeting in the Ukraine, when the leaders of energy company Burisma met Joe Biden’s son, Hunter, looked him over, and told him that, “they liked the cut of his jib,” and that it would be an honor for them to have him, the son of the valiant warrior who faced down “tough dude” gang leader Crispy Creme, sit on their board of directors.
Yes, they’d tell Biden’s son, even in the Ukraine we have heard of your Father’s valor and might, for the tale was brought to us by several of the 722 million women—idle now—that your father is proposing to put back into the work force.
The long desert journey continues in hopes of finding scandal fantasies. Emotions tell the faithful that scandals are out there. If one only trudges far enough, dirt trophies will be found, and a prized scalp obtained. Along the way, shimmering lakes and ponds appear in the distance. The scandal seekers breathlessly run to each, only to find yet another mirage.
After one or two of these frustrations, reasonable thoughts suggest the futile nature of their quest. But those are rejected in favor of swearing that the cracked dry desert patches they trekked to were actual ponds and lakes moments earlier. Alas, Mueller team, why did you fail us?
We observers of the madness might pause in our amusement to reflect on its underlying cause. A demonizing mental pattern was sold to the scandal seekers by the community organizer who preceded our orange matador. That charlatan is not unique in history. Therefor take heed, lest we fall prey to our own demonizing impulses.
The long desert journey continues in hopes of finding scandal fantasies.
Deserts. Hmmm…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STeVTzWelns
Looks like we’ve strayed onto a creative writing blog somehow.
I expect to see Biden the Barbarian any moment now..
“Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentation of the women!”
J. E. Dyer puts a stake into the vampire’s heart.
https://libertyunyielding.com/2019/09/23/an-actual-no-kidding-reason-for-trumps-review-of-military-aid-to-ukraine/
AesopFan–Actually, in honor of Biden’s “warrior spirit”–“where’s my warrior spirit, where’s may warrior spirit, I know I left it here somewhere, get busy and find it, somebody look under that chair over there”–I think that Biden should use the main theme from the sound track from “Conan the Barbarian” as his campaign theme song–you know, those pounding drums, and the “days of high adventure.”
Horns sharpened to twinkling points, over and over scandal seekers charge the orange matador. Olé! And again, olé!
But the wise are circumspect in subdued reaction, knowing there could be more lives in their future. Better to not be reborn as a tortured bull – worse yet, an enraged scandal seeker.
The Trump era will pass, just as the echo of the roaring crowd fades with the setting sun.
So, it was Bill Kristol who started the “Biden did nothing wrong, it’s Trump who is the bad one,” trope. I should have guessed. I saw that in the Washington Post this morning, and thought they started it, but obviously, Kristol got there first. These nitwits don’t realize Trump is trolling them. There more they bring this up, the more Biden is exposed. I’m guess Trump’s strategy is that he’d rather run against one of the Commies than Biden, who at least, when he’s lucid, can remember there once was something called the Democratic Party.
Biden: “Before America was… I AM (YHVH) still interested in feeling what your child’s neck is like”.
Jewish Rabbi: “Blasphemy! Kill Him!”
Biden: “Hello Deep State X Files executive, I have some rabbi that needs to disappear soon”.
Antifa: “Divest and Kill the Rabbi!”
“These nitwits don’t realize Trump is trolling them. There more they bring this up, the more Biden is exposed.” – Richard
I was thinking along the lines of the first foray of Project Veritas, where O’Keefe would release a short video, the Democrats would put out all sorts of exculpatory “reasons” — and he would release the next video shooting them down.
That went on for several cycles, and now for several years with other stings.
I don’t think they learned a thing.
The other thing about Project Veritas was that the Democrats, once busted, shifted their complaints to the videos being unimportant, or not relevant, or maliciously edited…anything but admit they were lying.
https://www.breitbart.com/2020-election/2019/09/24/democrats-shift-goal-posts-demand-more-than-phone-call-transcript-after-trump-says-hell-release-it/
Seems like we’ve seen this maneuver before.
I think this all but makes it certain that Warren is the nominee.
And I’m not buying the theory that Trump wants this impeachment garbage to go forward. There is no way that this constant drumbeat helps him. If anything it just leads to a stronger likelihood of a wave of ‘return to normalcy’ sweeping Warren to victory. Too many care little about policy but about all the nonstop drama and the media will do everything in their power to cover all of Warrens many scary policies.
Oops.
https://www.redstate.com/elizabeth-vaughn/2019/09/24/691385/
Dem Senator Recently ‘Reminded’ Ukrainian President That Opening Investigation Into Biden Would Be ‘Disastrous For Long-Term US-Ukraine Relations’; Got That?
Posted at 2:30 pm on September 24, 2019 by Elizabeth Vaughn
As Dyer said a couple of days ago –(AesopFan on September 23, 2019 at 10:06 pm said:) — there is no link between the Ukraine phone call and the aid slowdown.
https://www.redstate.com/bonchie/2019/09/24/latest-trump-ukraine-bombshell-another-dud/
The first sentence refers to the outcry against Trump from the Right more than from the Left, as exemplified by Noah Rothman’s* tweet:
As Bonchie said,
*Rothman wrote briefly for Hot Air some years ago, and was not well received by the commentariat there. In fact, the response to his generally ill-thought-out and worse-written posts was rather vitriolic; my own comments were in the more modest tone of friendly advice to a would-be pundit. 😉
IMNSHO, one reason Salem shut down the comments and moved to FaceBook registration — which precipitated a massive withdrawal of that bunch of readers — was the wounded feelings of himself and his sponsors.
I haven’t seen much more intellectually impressive work at Commentary, but at least his articles (though longer) are more coherent.
Sen. Richard Burr acts like he knows he is dirty; knows his own complicity in the soft coup actions; knows he may be caught out, and therefore works still to pull the President down.
Now these are appearances to me, merely. Nevertheless, mere appearances or no, I can find no respect for the man whatsoever. He is bad and that’s it.
AesopFan,
The decline of Hot Air has been rapid. For me it’s not just Allahpundit and Ed and their never ending Never Trump crap but the selections at the top have become nothing but NYT, WaPo anti Trump stuff and Never Trumper non sense.
Who do they think their audience is I wonder.
Griffin – totally agree. I began my addiction to blog reading with Capt’n Ed Morrisey, and always enjoyed his essays (still do, occasionally), but never did like AP very much. My pleasure there (as it is here to a great extent) was interacting with the commenters, who had a wide range of life experiences and much wisdom to impart on the broad range of political and social doings.
J. E. Dyer and John Hayward also came to prominence out of that blog’s “Greenroom” postings.
Salem torpedoed that deliberately.
I still read Jazz Shaw occasionally, but I don’t go there for news and views anymore.