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  2. So what happens when maniacal egotists begin cloning huge numbers of themselves and putting them on the welfare roles?

    Or they begin coning spare bodies placed in stasis for future use?

    Lot’s of moral puzzles there.

    Of course it may not come to that if medicine and gene therapy can provide “us” with eternal life.

    Then, society [based on who and what will then likely dominate and constitute it] will immediately transform into a kind of hell without any intermediate steps.

  3. Ok I quit for now. Cannot do without editing apparently. Proof reading is beyond my ability, evidently.

  4. The stupid line got a cheer from the assembled, which tells you something about the sort of people she attracts (just as the fact she said it tells you what doesn’t get questioned in the social milieux were she lives and works).

  5. You don’t have to look hard in life or online to find shocking misogyny but you generally DO have to look for it. This sort of casual misandry is almost omnipresent.

    Mike

  6. Well, one could always say that Elizabeth Warren is “sui generis”….

    But it does seem like a dilemma for our times:
    https://legalinsurrection.com/2019/09/student-climate-change-activist-the-world-is-ending-what-are-we-studying-for/

    After all if the end of the world is imminent, why is Elizabeth Warren even running? (And why does AOC feel the need to subject herself to so much ridicule?)

    Nihilistic despair—especially the earnest variety—is just so….deliciously woke!! In spite of a derivative world view that appears to be, rather ironically, grounded in Woody Allen films. Hysteria, it seems, can be so liberating….
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5U1-OmAICpU

  7. I know it’s a humor post but in context Warren’s next sentence was: “We’re here because of some hardworking women….” She was there to give a speech which started with the history of the Triangle Shirtwaist Factory fire in 1911 which took the lives of 146 garment workers – most of whom were young Italian and Jewish immigrant women.

  8. Montage:

    Yes, she referenced the Triangle Shirtwaist Factory fire, and then used it to hammer home her claims that among other things, we can’t solve the problems of things like climate change and gun violence because greedy corporations have bought off politicians with their blood money. And when you make the point that the power of the NRA is due to their large membership and not their relatively small donations to politicians, the sleazy left easily pivots to designating that membership a bunch of terrorists.

  9. Montage:

    Yes, and it’s easy to pay homage to those women without bashing men and without the ridiculous assertion that men had nothing to do with the existence or the lives of those women or any other women.

    Everyone on earth is here because of both men and women. Period.

    Let me add that in the Triangle Fire—which I first learned about when I was about 10 years old—firemen tried to save the women, although their efforts were mostly in vain. By the way, the victims were 123 women and girls and 23 men. Yes, men died there, too, one out of every 6 victims, if I’m doing the math correctly.

    There were some male heroes, too, that day:

    The fire department arrived quickly but was unable to stop the flames, as their ladders were only long enough to reach as high as the 7th floor. The fallen bodies and falling victims also made it difficult for the fire department to approach the building.

    Elevator operators Joseph Zito and Gaspar Mortillalo saved many lives by traveling three times up to the 9th floor for passengers, but Mortillalo was eventually forced to give up when the rails of his elevator buckled under the heat. Some victims pried the elevator doors open and jumped into the empty shaft, trying to slide down the cables or to land on top of the car. The weight and impacts of these bodies warped the elevator car and made it impossible for Zito to make another attempt.

    I am heartily sick of this constant male-bashing. No excuse for it.

    Men also had a lot to do with reforms to change things (as did women, but why slight the men?):

    The committee’s representatives in Albany obtained the backing of Tammany Hall’s Al Smith, the Majority Leader of the Assembly, and Robert F. Wagner, the Majority Leader of the Senate, and this collaboration of machine politicians and reformers – also known as “do-gooders” or “goo-goos” – got results, especially since Tammany’s chief, Charles F. Murphy, realized the goodwill to be had as champion of the downtrodden.

    The New York State Legislature then created the Factory Investigating Commission to “investigate factory conditions in this and other cities and to report remedial measures of legislation to prevent hazard or loss of life among employees through fire, unsanitary conditions, and occupational diseases.” The Commission was chaired by Wagner and co-chaired by Al Smith. They held a series of widely publicized investigations around the state, interviewing 222 witnesses and taking 3,500 pages of testimony. They hired field agents to do on-site inspections of factories. They started with the issue of fire safety and moved on to broader issues of the risks of injury in the factory environment. Their findings led to thirty-eight new laws regulating labor in New York state, and gave them a reputation as leading progressive reformers working on behalf of the working class. In the process, they changed Tammany’s reputation from mere corruption to progressive endeavors to help the workers. New York City’s Fire Chief John Kenlon told the investigators that his department had identified more than 200 factories where conditions made a fire like that at the Triangle Factory possible. The State Commissions’s reports helped modernize the state’s labor laws, making New York State “one of the most progressive states in terms of labor reform.” New laws mandated better building access and egress, fireproofing requirements, the availability of fire extinguishers, the installation of alarm systems and automatic sprinklers, better eating and toilet facilities for workers, and limited the number of hours that women and children could work. In the years from 1911 to 1913, sixty of the sixty-four new laws recommended by the Commission were legislated with the support of Governor William Sulzer.

  10. Neo,

    I don’t think she is bashing men. I take her quip to be humor. I’m a man. I’m not offended in the least by it because in context she is not bashing men. She is playing to the crowd that expects a little sharp winking humor – but then she gets to the meat of her argument about corporations and workers, which one can debate. Trump plays to his crowd all the time. It’s why people come to see him. It’s one reason people come to see Warren too.

  11. IMO, RuPaul gets it on a much more sophisticated level than Elizabeth Warren. Men? Women?:

    “The deeper level of drag is all about, you’re born naked and the rest is drag. . . . It’s this idea that you are not your body. You are an extension of the power that created the whole universe. That’s drag. We are all God in drag.”

  12. I don’t think she is bashing men.

    Thanks for the display of Stockholm syndrome. Been an education.

    I take her quip to be humor. I’m a man. I’m not offended in the least by it because in context she is not bashing men.

    You’re easily pleased and not too swift. As for the rest of us, she might try meeting us half way by saying something that might at least qualify as vaguely amusing.

  13. This sort of casual misandry is almost omnipresent.

    I recently got hit with a fairly gross example of it from one of my more proximate cousins. The one person (out of 15) who suggested she dial it back was promptly cast off. Cannot help but note that her proximate relations of the female persuasion include her sister (with whom she’s not on the best of terms), her mother (with whom her relations over the years have been of uneven quality), and her surviving aunt (to whom she once referred as a ‘dingbat’). Her problems in living being what they are, she sticks a stiletto into her father and into a half-dozen or so collaterals in her generation. She has a son who differs from these others in that he is not old; no clue how he reacts to this. (I’m told that the time he allocates to his father, whom she divorced several years ago, irritates her).

    I’m sure Montage would tell me she was just being funny or something.

  14. Montage:

    Fine. Don’t be offended.

    I am.

    And I would be equally offended no matter who said it.

    By the way, what would you think if it were Trump saying about a similar occasion: “we’re not here because of women at all.”

  15. Neo,
    If Trump said it in an off-handed way that had the crowd laughing for a quick moment then I would think it was fine. I dislike political correctness when it comes to jokes about men or women. I also dislike the whole leftist cancel culture we are experiencing. I would only have an issue with it if Trump went on a long speech that literally bashed women, which he would not do. If Warren went on a long harangue literally bashing men as the main theme of a speech then I would likely get up and leave. But then I don’t like political rallies in general. Populist rhetoric is not my thing.

  16. Montage:

    Well, I don’t like political speeches either.

    But I don’t find casual man-bashing or women-bashing or group-bashing in general to be okay. I’m not PC in general, and I can take a joke. But I fail to see any humor here—and Warren represents a left that indeed HAS been trashing men, and white men in particular, very seriously and very viciously for a long time.

  17. Neo, I’ll agree a lot of the left does trash men. And when it comes to jokes it’s open season on white men and pretty much nobody else except Russians. I’ll also concede that if Trump made a similar quip about women it would make headline news. So I do see the larger context you are getting at.

  18. Montage:

    Yes.

    I think people also make jokes about Jews. But most of the people making the jokes are Jews 🙂 .

    (Was that a joke?)

  19. “…because greedy corporations have bought off politicians…”

    Um, er, well, fine; but wouldn’t it be a tad more convincing were it not intimated by a woman who made a successful career off a spectacularly bogus claim. Seriously. Serially…. We’re talking decades worth. (Oh, right. She apologized! Gosh, how, um, awkward…)
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/elizabeth-warren-listed-race-as-american-indian-in-newly-revealed-texas-state-bar-card-from-1986

    As for, “…I take her quip to be humor…”, well, I’m all for giving people the benefit of the doubt; but it’s just that, well, in this case, one should, um, realize that Warren really has no sense of humor. None at all. (Well, except when it comes to playing Cowboys and Native Americans; and even there, she was being funny unintentionally….)

  20. “I guess Elizabeth Warren was conceived through parthenogenesis.”

    Would that (consequently) have a material effect on calculating Sen. Warren’s percentage of Native American blood heritage?

  21. Right, shows like the Marvelous Mrs Maisel use humor well with a self-reflexive eye on New York [50’s] Jewish culture without denigrating anyone.

  22. Interesting that Warren kept her first husband’s name even after she dumped him in 1978 for the law school professor who became her second husband in 1980. I wonder what Jim Warren (a computer programmer for IBM as well as the father of her two children at the time she left him) thinks of her candidacy.

    I also find it ironic that her B.S. from the University of Houston is in speech pathology.

  23. Dr. Filth, she keeps her world inside of her leather cup
    But all her sexless voters, they’re trying to blow it up
    Now Dr. Filth, this local loser, she’s in charge of the cyanide hole
    And she also keeps the cards that read, “Have Mercy on His Soul”
    She just wails on her the penny whistles, you can hear her blow
    If you lean your head out far enough from Desolation Row

  24. The State Commissions’s reports helped modernize the state’s labor laws, making New York State “one of the most progressive states in terms of labor reform.”
    * * *
    Good things like those reforms are one of the functions of government, and they gave “progressive” a good reputation in the beginning, which is why the Left likes to use that label now.

  25. Thomas Sowell on equality, but it works for any kind of reforms as well:
    “the force, introduced for good purposes, will end up in the hands of people who use it to promote their own interests.”
    Conveniently lifted from Neo’s post on Meritocracy.

  26. It was a joke.

    But not just a humor joke, a joke about how bad men are.

    If it was still OK to joke about how bad women are, and men, and Italians, Irish, Jews, and yankees and rednecks, and blacks and whites and Mexicans; if it was still the Free Speech 60s, this wouldn’t bother me.

    But it’s not. It’s not OK to joke about most groups — so, under “equality”, it’s not OK to joke about any groups.

    I don’t like those rules. But I hate when rules apply only to some, but not to others — equal enforcement of rules is necessary.

    No men should vote for the men-hating Warren. But many Trump-haters will.

  28. Tom Grey on September 20, 2019 at 5:20 am said:
    It was a joke.

    But not just a humor joke, a joke about how bad men are.

    If it was still OK to joke about … this wouldn’t bother me.

    But it’s not. It’s not OK to joke about most groups — so, under “equality”, it’s not OK to joke about any groups.
    * * *
    Indeed.
    However, I do have a few good Mormon jokes I’m willing to share….

  29. I wonder if the Bee is talking here about Packer’s heresy on the meritocracy line?

    https://babylonbee.com/news/the-atlantic-quickly-patches-echo-chamber-after-discovering-leak

    “It was a dicey situation. We were exposed for a short while to a dissenting opinion on a social issue, which is unacceptable, and could have wreaked havoc on our homogeneous corporate culture,” Goldberg said in his statement. “We want to thank the frenzied and ruthless social media mob for bringing the abnormality to our attention—it has been successfully dealt with.”

  30. Tom, a very good point about the differing zeitgeist between the ’60s and our so much more fragile age. Hadn’t occurred to me.

    Not that I was much in favor of the general trashing of civilities that began to find favor in the ’60s and that haunts us still. [Not that there weren’t already incivilities, which I expect will always be with us. —-On that note, though O/ the present /T, clamping down hard on public behavior and especially public “incivilities” does not prevent them; as N.K. and other bastions of Communism have shown us. The incivility of unjustly aiming zingers, even “hate speech” (and even if it really is hateful and not meant purely for humor), is as nothing to the incivility of a government-gang’s policy of terrorizing its people by murdering them on the slightest excuse, or no excuse at all.]

    And our current state of decay does grow out of “that slum of a decade.”

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