Will anyone behind Russiagate be prosecuted?
I have to say right upfront that I doubt it.
It just seems to go that way. The state agencies are reluctant to charge their own bureaucrats, no matter what the violation, and the higher up the person is the less likely that person is to be prosecuted, no matter how shocking and blatant the violation. Lois Lerner and Hillary Clinton, cases in point.
And yes, it seems to be mostly Democrats who skate. The two-tiered system of justice described by Andrew C. McCarthy here is very real.
However, some people feel that Comey and company will ultimately be indicted (for example, see this). I hope they are right, because if it is possible to get away with what they tried to do, then we are far far far down the road to banana republicdom.
And this should be the position of every American no matter what the party being targeted. But of course it is not.
Just to take one small point from that article I just linked:
The Steele dossier was uncorroborated, unverified, and false. That didn’t stop Comey and other political operatives at the FBI from turning it into evidence to support FISA warrants permitting them to spy on the Trump campaign.
Obviously, politicians should never, ever, ever be allowed to use their bought and paid for political opposition research to get their opponent investigated using clandestine measures.
Well, of course. This is basic stuff. And yet, all over the country, we see the MSM, the left, and most of the Democratic Party having no problem whatsoever with all of this.
That’s the real problem.
Retired military associated with Trump get prosecuted quite readily. For bupkis.
I agree with you that the Dept. of Justice is quite hopeless and will do nothing to hold anyone accountable.
Ideally, the Department of Justice would be broken up into a half-dozen pieces and any attorney hired during the Obama years fired. At the state and local level, the functions performed by the Department of Justice are seldom located in one administrative apparat. So, break up Justice and Homeland Security and assemble new departments.
Not only no, but hell no. It is becoming clearer all the time the people in Washington operate with a different set of laws than do the average person. I believe Ford is responsible since he acted to save the integrity of the presidency by pardoning Nixon (I was on Yankee Station at the time, we had been heading to Hong Kong when we were ordered back the night before) which effectively gave permission for the congress, CIA, FBI, the courts, and any other crook in D.C. to do as they want since it was likely to be covered up.
On this subject I am extremely pessimistic of a good outcome.
As I’ve written here on this blog in many different ways, whatever the excuses and legal arguments made to justify the decisions, the non-prosecution, or half-hearted, deliberately ineffective prosecution of Comey and the other major members of the cabal would be a massive signal, an extraordinarily strong blow against a Republic whose foundations and institutions have already been dangerously weakened by the all-spectrum, and almost universally overwhelming and successful attacks, subversions, and replacements of the Left’s Gramscian Long March though our institutions, and our civilization.
Along the way, is would also tell us that our much vaunted “Rule of Law” and”equality” under it are a sickening joke, and be a signal, as well, that our Republic is now too weak, has now just too few clear-eyed, aware, and patriotic defenders in positions of power sufficient to insure it’s preservation; today’s defenders now in the same situation as those long ago Texian defenders at the Alamo.
For those who have eyes to see and ears to hear, it would be a clear and unmistakable signal that we are, today, a Republic in name only, and on the way to becoming “fundamentally transformed” into some sort of banana republic—if we aren’t pretty much one already, and we just don’t know, or want to know it.
I too agree with you NEO and the other commenters, nothing will happen to any of them.
If the Dems take the table in 2020 will they prosecute Trump and his family. You betcha!
And we stay angry.
Yes. There will be prosecutions. However, the true progenitor of this fell corruption, President Pseudonym, will not be prosecuted.
“The two-tiered system of justice described by Andrew C. McCarthy here is very real.”
Yeah, well, you know….”indulgences” and “nunneries”.
Prosecutorial discretion and judicial legislation.
I now suspect that there will be one (McCabe) or two (+Comey) indictments, about a 60% belief (either or both).
NOT enough justice.
Neither Barr, nor any Trump appointed politician, can do it — staff have to do the actual work. Deep state staff have shown they’ve chosen not to, including the IG who chose to NOT recommend prosecution. So far.
Not so different from Comey on Hillary’s crimes choosing no indictment.
On the other hand, this is a pretty clear injustice, and it might help Trump in the upcoming 2020 vote. I can imagine real reforms happening after that.
Tho I’m known a bit for an over active imagination / fantasy life.
At a dinner party the other night someone told me with great certainty, “last week Russia’s involvement with Trump was definitively proven and Trump is finally going to go down!” “Really, wow. What was the definitive proof?” I asked. They couldn’t remember.
Is being indicted the same as being prosecuted?
I think someone, maybe someones, will be indicted. Whether it goes any further than that, I too have my doubts.
I believe Ford is responsible since he acted to save the integrity of the presidency by pardoning Nixon (I was on Yankee Station at the time, we had been heading to Hong Kong when we were ordered back the night before) which effectively gave permission for the congress, CIA, FBI, the courts, and any other crook in D.C. to do as they want since it was likely to be covered up.
Not understanding you. A score of people working under Nixon were prosecuted, some of them guilty of very little (e.g. Donald Segretti). Ford had never held an executive position before and was learning-by-doing. His reason for pardoning Nixon was that he had work to do and his time over the previous month had been preoccupied with Nixon matters. Reagan knew how to delegate authority. Ford hadn’t learned.
Where you saw impunity was during the Clinton years. (1) Political appointees in the Clinton White House were permitted to blow off FBI background investigations (see Gary Aldrich on how this worked in practice); (2) The FBI was willing to bring bogus charges against Billy R. Dale (and he was cleaned out financially defending himself; a trial jury took 90 minutes to acquit him) at the say-so of Hillary, because he was in the way of her pals the Bloodworth-Thomasons; (3) neither Anthony Marceca or Craig Livingstone were prosecuted for misappropriating raw FBI material on the political opposition; (4) Hillary was never prosecuted for hiding the Rose Law Firm billing records and non compliance with subpoenas. To be sure, a number of Clinton cronies did time, and not for process crimes either: Jim Guy Tucker, the McDougals, and Webb Hubbell.
What’s depressing is to read McCarthy explicitly and specifically acknowledge this two-tiered justice but then admit that he STILL defaults to defending the status quo. It’s like he’s waiting for someone else to actually do something about it.
This is how civilizations decline and fall. It’s not when some unexpected catastrophes occurs. It’s when there are problems that anyone can see but no one is willing to do anything about them.
I’ve tried to make this point to Trump-haters again and again. There are reasons Trump got elected and if you don’t deal with those reasons, the next person who rides in on that white horse is going to make Trump look like a member of the League of Women Voters.
Mike
Neo said:
“The two-tiered system of justice described by Andrew C. McCarthy here is very real.”
With respect Neo, I refuse to call it a Justice System anymore. Its the Legal System. Calling it a Justice System is giving the people who run it, the Deep Staters and the cowards who go along to get a long, too much credit.
And I say that as someone who works withing the Legal System.
Big thumbs up on your last paragraph, MBunge. Early on when I was still wrestling in my own mind with the Trump phenomenon I understood that regardless of what I or anyone else thought of him, he had struck a very deep nerve in the American body politic and that those issues and sentiments were not going to go away anytime soon.
This is proof of the “Deep State” protecting their own. If you remember a few years ago the EPA was mucking around some old mine ponds in New Mexico when the dam was breached sending yellow liquid into the local rivers that were water sources for thousands of people. Nobody in the EPA was fired, demoted or transferred. Everything just went on as usual. If Exxon/Mobil had caused the beach they would have had to pay millions in reparations along with being scalded in the media for months.
The Deep State needs someone like Joe Biden as President to be the figure head of the government while they continue to pull the levers behind the scenes.
I’m thoroughly done with politicians in striped pants and morning coats. That’s why I voted for Trump in 2016 and will vote for him again in 2020. We as a nation must rein in the Deep State. It won’t be done in 4 years and not even 8 years but we must start.
Mel Brooks, its good to be the king (rap)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOFHk9KF7pk
If, a very big if, there are prosecutions here are some reasons that they are proceeding as they are.
1. Because of the Mueller special counsel the DoJ has not been able to launch full scale investigations until now.
2. The DoJ is being extremely thorough because you only get one bite at the apple.
3. If there are many potential defendants it takes a long time to interview them all, look for discrepancies in their stories and turn them.
4. You don’t want to show your hand until all the fish are in the barrel.
5. This is the most political crime in our history. It requires large political consequences as a penalty. Multiple indictments in the middle of an election year serve that purpose.
One of the reafor the two tiers is the jury pool in DC won’t convict democrats
Roy Lofquist, I hope you’re right.
any attorney hired during the Obama years fired
Obama arranged to get most of them Civil Service status so they could not be fired. I’m reading McCarthy’s book now.
Excellent comment, art deco.
One of the reafor the two tiers is the jury pool in DC won’t convict democrats
Good point and one reason why the SAs are in Utah and VA. The DC jury is the sort that made Nixon “Unindicted co-conspirator in Watergate.
I’m not sure if they’ll prosecute over the FISA fraud applications. Sure the FISA court has been held in contempt, but the overlooked fact is that the FISA judges simply looked for “Verified” and the signature of someone like Comey and don’t actually approach the applications to spy on Americans with skepticism. And all the judges when this happened were appointees of Chief Justice Roberts. They will probably try to keep that off the record.
Funny that there have been what seem like many hundreds of “leaks” that were all directed to the detriment of Trump and his Administration, but–in “leaks like a sieve” Washington–no such leaks at all coming out of the various reports, grand juries, and presumably prosecutions that are supposedly being conduced by Barr, Durham, et al.
Silence I note, as well, from the FISA court that apparently just rubber stamped those FISA applications.
I’m astounded that Strzok, McCabe and Comey haven’t been indicted for obstruction of justice in the Hillary case. They point shaved the whole thing. They made it kind of look like they were playing the game but they were missing layups and blowing free throws on purpose.
Indict one of those clowns and he’ll rat out the others.
I don’t know for sure whether any of these criminals will be indicted.
But I do know that if a Democrat wins the 2020 election, none of them will be indicted.
I’m unconvinced any will be indicted…even small fish (McCabe, Strozk, Rybicki, Our, Baker, et al) will swim away scot free. The Big Fish (Obama, Comey, Clinton, Brennan, Clapper) won’t even get questioned again.
And it will be that absolute whitewash that creates a violent backlash somewhere along the way. I pray I’m wrong on all counts…
https://amgreatness.com/2019/09/01/what-the-justice-departments-decision-not-to-prosecute-comey-tells-us/
“This is proof of the “Deep State” protecting their own. If you remember a few years ago the EPA was mucking around some old mine ponds in New Mexico when the dam was breached sending yellow liquid into the local rivers that were water sources for thousands of people. Nobody in the EPA was fired, demoted or transferred. Everything just went on as usual. If Exxon/Mobil had caused the beach they would have had to pay millions in reparations along with being scalded in the media for months.”
That was in Colorado.
Fractal Rabbit on September 2, 2019 at 5:27 pm said:
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With respect Neo, I refuse to call it a Justice System anymore. Its the Legal System.
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Good point.
Kind of like no longer calling the progressives, socialists, and leftists “liberals.”
Not that the three of them differ any longer, if they ever did.
Now I’m wondering if the failure to indict will be blamed on Democrats controlling the House, and become an election issue.
Just thinking about how Trump might be telling blacks how so many white, Dem, well-connected deep state criminals get away with it, but so many blacks get sent to jail — because of the Democrats that blacks vote for. To get a rule of law that applies to all, one can’t vote for the Dems.
I’m so sad that the US legal system has accepted so much crime by Dems, without indictments. Which I understand to be the actual legal accusation that a specific person has committed a specific crime, and the first step taken when a DA decides on prosecuting.
Failure to indict Hillary, and the coverup of that failure, continue to haunt the USA.
Pournelle suggested several “laws”.
“In any bureaucracy, the people devoted to the benefit of the bureaucracy itself always get in control and those dedicated to the goals the bureaucracy is supposed to accomplish have less and less influence, and sometimes are eliminated entirely.”
US AG Barr should delegate the prosecution to the Texas AG and the Texas Rangers. Deputize them all as US Marshalls. One of the only law enforcement organizations with the toughness, tenacity and integrity to get the job done with honor. Let the US AG supervise directly – don’t involve any DOJ lawyers or FBI agents – they’d all be conflicted.
Can’t think of anything that would terrify the swamp more than being taken down by Rangers. Run the trials in the Eastern District of TX in Beaumont District Court. Beaumont is a good site, they’d pull a jury of sensible, honest, hardworking Americans from all races to sit on the jury.
If Clapper, Brennen, Valjar, Comey, McCabe, Bloom, both Ohr’s etc….. skate with out being indicted…our rule of law will have become deeply diluted.
Oh sure, traffic laws and bloody felonies will still be enforced, but otherwise no one will GAF. Voter fraud, illegal immigration, and goverment corruption will become acceptable social currency.
Taxation without representation led to the first American Revolution. A two or three or four tiered legal system will become a cornerstone of the 2nd American Revolution.
(Sadly, the Hildabeast and Marxist Barry are gonna skate… that ship has sailed.)
I heard on the radio ( Michael Savage show) that the attorney General, Barr, was one of the legal defenders of Lon Horiuchi for murdering Vicki Weaver at Ruby Ridge. If true, no one will ever be indicted.
Here’s a rather interesting POV (H/T Powerline Blog):
https://spectator.org/the-comey-brennan-conspiracy-to-violate-trumps-civil-rights/
…approaching “the problem” (the “issue”?, the “matter”?) of the Obama administration’s attempted coup against Donald Trump and the American government (to be sure, NOT a scandal though…since Obama doesn’t “do” scandals, as sharp-as-a-tack Joe Biden continually reminds us)—rather ironically—as an assault on Trump’s “Civil Rights”.
Indeed, it’s a kind of “woke” effort, but from the “right” side of the aisle (though the term “right” here is wrong and should actually be, “law-abiding, Constitution-defending, country-defending”…side of the aisle).
Well, good luck with that…!
Since, however deliciously counter-intuitive such an approach might be, the author of the article seems to be forgetting that for the vast majority of those arrayed against him, Donald Trump (and those who support him) deserve absolutely NO civil rights. None. Nada. Zilch.
(Nor do they appear to have much of a sense of humor—or irony—at least as far as this issue is concerned….)
neo rightly sees that, “yet, all over the country, we see the MSM, the left, and most of the Democratic Party having no problem whatsoever with all of this. That’s the real problem.”
They view those on the right as “deplorable and irredeemable” and are willing to “cut down all the laws” to get after the devil(s) who are preventing the creation of a ‘just’ socialist utopia.
“THE DEVIL AND THE LAW” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9rjGTOA2NA
It is the Constitution that they are cutting down and that is all that is protecting them. They are stupidly cutting off the branch upon which they sit.
Snow on Pines… opines that circumstances may now have devolved such that “our Republic is now too weak, has now just too few clear-eyed, aware, and patriotic defenders in positions of power sufficient to insure it’s preservation; today’s defenders now in the same situation as those long ago Texian defenders at the Alamo.”
There may be too few “patriotic defenders in positions of power sufficient to insure it’s preservation” but there are more than enough patriots to restore America after the armed confrontation that the Left is forcing upon us, for those who make peaceful resolution of grievance impossible, make violent resolution of grievance inevitable.
LYNE HARGROVE suggests that, “If the Dems take the table in 2020 will they prosecute Trump and his family. You betcha!
And we stay angry.”
A ‘successful’ prosecution of Trump and family would act as a societal ‘accelerant’ and the Left’s oppression will increase to intolerable levels, which would directly lead to civil war.
Let’s please list the other three DOJ jokers who committed fraud in the FISA court:
Rod Rosenstein
Andrew McCabe
Sally Yates
I heard on the radio ( Michael Savage show) that the attorney General, Barr, was one of the legal defenders of Lon Horiuchi for murdering Vicki Weaver at Ruby Ridge. If true, no one will ever be indicted.
Horiuchi was prosecuted in Idaho state courts in 1997, four years after Barr left office.
Horiuchi was prosecuted in Idaho state courts in 1997,
The jury that heard the Randy Weaver case wanted to indict Horiuchi but I never heard that he was ever prosecuted. I think he did stay out of Idaho after that.
In 1997, Boundary County, Idaho Prosecutor Denise Woodbury, with the help of special prosecutor Stephen Yagman, charged Horiuchi in state court with involuntary manslaughter over his killing of Vicki Weaver. The U.S. Attorney filed a notice of removal of the case to federal court, which automatically took effect under the statute for removal jurisdiction[7] where the case was dismissed by U.S. District Judge Edward Lodge on May 14, 1998, who cited the supremacy clause of the Constitution which grants immunity to federal officers acting in the scope of their employment.[2]
The decision to dismiss the charges was reversed by an en banc panel of the Ninth Circuit, which held that enough uncertainty about the facts of the case existed for Horiuchi to stand trial on state manslaughter charges.[2] Ultimately, the then-sitting Boundary County prosecutor, Brett Benson, who had defeated Woodbury in the 2000 election, decided to drop the charges, because he felt it was unlikely the state could prove the case and too much time had passed. Yagman, the special prosecutor, responded that he “could not disagree more with this decision than I do.”[8]
The Ninth Circuit granted Boundary County’s motion to dismiss the case against Horiuchi on September 14, 2001
More on Benson, whop dropped the charges.
Boundary County Prosecutor Brett Benson, who vowed in September not to resign, agreed to step down on Thursday as part of his plea bargain to a misdemeanor charge of impersonating a notary public.
Benson pleaded guilty and was sentenced by Kootenai County Magistrate Eugene Marano to 180 days in jail, 80 hours of community service in lieu of jail time, a $300 fine and two years on probation. The fine and all but 10 days of the jail time were suspended.
In addition, Benson will be required to make a full disclosure to the Idaho State Bar and accept whatever professional sanction it imposes.
jesse bogan on September 3, 2019 at 7:46 am said:
I heard on the radio ( Michael Savage show) that the attorney General, Barr, was one of the legal defenders of Lon Horiuchi for murdering Vicki Weaver at Ruby Ridge. If true, no one will ever be indicted.
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Thanks to Art Deco for the updates; Savage may have been referring to Barr’s behind-the-scenes activities as detailed in this report:
https://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/william-barrs-connection-to-ruby-ridge-defending-fbi-snipers/
So now we have to wonder what the meaning of “directly involved” includes, I suppose.
It was, regrettably, Barr’s job to support his agency after the fact.
Refer to Pournelle’s Laws of Bureacracies above for why that is so.
His rhetoric is reminiscent of the commendations of Brennan, Clapper, Comey, Mueller, et al. from the Right until their coup was disclosed; Andrew McCarthy is one of the few who have admitted they got burned.
Mike K on September 3, 2019 at 11:54 am said:
More on Benson, whop dropped the charges.
Boundary County Prosecutor Brett Benson, who vowed in September not to resign, agreed to step down on Thursday as part of his plea bargain to a misdemeanor charge of impersonating a notary public.
Benson pleaded guilty and was sentenced by Kootenai County Magistrate Eugene Marano to 180 days in jail, 80 hours of community service in lieu of jail time, a $300 fine and two years on probation. The fine and all but 10 days of the jail time were suspended.
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The suspension brought the sentence down to what most laymen (lay persons?) would consider reasonable, depending on what he did while impersonating a notary.
However, note the huge disparity in that original sentence and those imposed on the very few actors in the lawlessness of government elites who have actually been prosecuted and convicted.
In re Benson: since plea bargains are always downward from the original indictments, what did they charge him with in the first place?
Mike K: what did your excerpted article say, if anything? Can you link the source?
Obama spied, Clinton colluded, Biden obstructed, and empathetic or social judgments (e.g. trial by press, warlock trials). Violation of civil rights and a soft coup progressed by Democrats and foreign interests. Not bloody likely. #HateLovesAbortion
What are the legal statutes that Comey can be prosecuted for? In the first IG Report he was accused of violating Dept. policies. That will get you fired (which he already has been) but not jailed.
In the case of obtaining FISA warrants based on knowingly false premises, I can see a case for a charge of perjury, but perjury cases are actually very rarely prosecuted. What other chargeable crimes are there?
I mean, the abuse of authority here is clear and obvious, but I don’t think that is in and of itself a criminal offense. Any lawyers reading this that can help out?
Roy Nathanson — 18 U.S. Code §?595.Interference by administrative employees of Federal, State, or Territorial Governments;
18 U.S. Code §?372.Conspiracy to impede or injure officer
18 U.S. Code §?1001.Statements or entries generally
18 U.S. Code §?1924.Unauthorized removal and retention of classified documents or material (Only to the extent there was information in his memos pertaining to foreign relations.)
18 U.S. Code §?2071.Concealment, removal, or mutilation generally
Richard Saunders,
Thank you. So if they really throw the book at him, and has to serve consecutive sentences, he could go to jail for the rest of his life.
Regrettably, like Neo, I suspect that the bureaucracy will conspire to prevent that from happening to one of their own.
Richard, thanks for the chapter and verse.
What is galling to me is that the Left spent 2-3 years, millions of dollars, and still threatens to impeach the elected President, for suspicions about alleged actions that amounted to rumor and speculation; plus harassing, intimidating, financially ruining, and jailing Trump’s associates for nothing that even approaches what the Clapper & Comey Coup Cabal actually did — whether or not they can (or will) be prosecuted for it.
Will anyone behind Russiagate be prosecuted?
If the Durham report on FisaGate whiffs on indictments, I believe the answer is no.
“…for ‘suspicions’ about ‘alleged’ actions that amounted to rumor and speculation…”
Forgot to mention ‘suspicions’ and ‘actions’ that THEY manufactured, invented, engineered, created, choreographed, directed, planned, planted and endlessly amplified, embellished and regurgitated through the MSM/Twitter “echo chamber” (TM) until the ‘suspicions’ and ‘actions’, the ‘rumor and speculation” became TRUTH.
(And remain TRUTH—for the true believers and die-hards.)
Barry — well, there is that….
😉
Washington D.C. is corrupt beyond redemption.
Not to mention Springfield (Illinois) and the Chicago City Council.
Plus, Lori Lightfoot!
Only the Divine Elohim have the authorization to prosecute evil. Everybody else is just gonna take the bribe. Easier.
You Americans just need to sit back down, Obey your Authority, and stop getting uppity in this land of the brave.
It’s what slaves and serfs are used to, and it’s what people actually did soon after Waco 1/ Ruby Ridge/ 9/11 / Waco 2.
Oh, people haven’t heard yet from the main sewer media that 9/11 was an “insider job” conducted by the Deep State?
Oh wasn’t the mainsewer story that it was an insider job conducted by Bush II?
That’s exactly how disinformation works, isn’t it. Just get a few of the details wrong and it discredits the whole thing.
Exactly how did the FBI know what the targets were so soon? The FBI are that competent? If they are that quick, how did they let the agents through?
In the early 1970s, Felt had supervised Operation COINTELPRO, initiated by Hoover in the 1950s. This period of FBI history has generated great controversy for its abuses of private citizens’ rights. The FBI was pursuing leftist groups, such as the Weather Underground, which had planted bombs at the Capitol, the Pentagon, and the State Department building. Felt, along with Edward S. Miller, authorized FBI agents to break into homes secretly in 1972 and 1973, without a search warrant, on nine separate occasions. These kinds of FBI operations were known as “black bag jobs.” The break-ins occurred at five addresses in New York and New Jersey, at the homes of relatives and acquaintances of Weather Underground members. They did not contribute to the capture of any fugitives. The use of “black bag jobs” by the FBI was declared unconstitutional by the United States Supreme Court in the Plamondon case, 407 U.S. 297 (1972).
The Church Committee of Congress revealed the FBI’s illegal activities, and many agents were investigated. In 1976, Felt publicly stated he had ordered break-ins, and recommended against punishment of individual agents who had carried out orders. Felt also stated that Patrick Gray had also authorized the break-ins, but Gray denied this. Felt said on the CBS television program Face the Nation he would probably be a “scapegoat” for the Bureau’s work.[55] “I think this is justified and I’d do it again tomorrow,” he said on the program. While admitting the break-ins were “extralegal”, he justified them as protecting the “greater good.” Felt said:
To not take action against these people and know of a bombing in advance would simply be to stick your fingers in your ears and protect your eardrums when the explosion went off and then start the investigation.
That American memory problem that starts and begins with AP and the national media propaganda arms.
In June 1973, Ruckelshaus received a call from someone claiming to be a New York Times reporter, telling him that Felt was the source of this information.[54] On June 21, Ruckelshaus met privately with Felt and accused him of leaking information to The New York Times, a charge that Felt adamantly denied.[46] Ruckelshaus told Felt to “sleep on it” and let him know the next day what he wanted to do. Felt resigned from the Bureau the next day, June 22, 1973, ending his thirty-one year career.
In a 2013 interview, Ruckelshaus noted the possibility that the original caller was a hoax. He said that he considered Felt’s resignation “an admission of guilt” anyway.[54]
Don’t worry, spying on Americans is only a crime when it is Democrats doing it to their enemies and not the other way around.
President Ronald Reagan pardoned Felt and Miller.
In a phone call on January 30, 1981, Edwin Meese encouraged President Ronald Reagan to issue a pardon. After further encouragement from Felt’s former colleagues, President Reagan pardoned Felt and Miller. The pardon was signed on March 26, but was not announced to the public until April 15, 1981.
In the pardon, Reagan wrote:
During their long careers, Mark Felt and Edward Miller served the Federal Bureau of Investigation and our nation with great distinction. To punish them further—after 3 years of criminal prosecution proceedings—would not serve the ends of justice.
Their convictions in the U.S. District Court, on appeal at the time I signed the pardons, grew out of their good-faith belief that their actions were necessary to preserve the security interests of our country. The record demonstrates that they acted not with criminal intent, but in the belief that they had grants of authority reaching to the highest levels of government.[64]
The FBI determines which US Presidents gets to spy on which political parties and citizens.
(Americans still swallow the Cronkite and ABC story about Nixon for the sake of the divine elohim gods…)
People probably don’t know this, because they rely on the media to do their thinking for them as they lack a spine as well, is that the same sniper team in Ruby Ridge… was also at Waco 1.
Haha. You Americans just think the voters rule this country, don’t they.
His rhetoric is reminiscent of the commendations of Brennan, Clapper, Comey, Mueller, et al. from the Right until their coup was disclosed; Andrew McCarthy is one of the few who have admitted they got burned.
It’s a good thing I know what is going to happen in a few years, otherwise I would be stuck along with the rest of the human goon antics in depression, angst, bitterness, and betrayal/anger symptoms.
You’ll never hear me singing the praises of whatever Leftist/Right Red talking head is going on about.