Did Omar marry her brother?
I’ve been following the ongoing reports about that question at Powerline for at least a year, but I’ve not focused on it before because it seems to me it’s been very much up in the air. Things have heated up a bit lately, though—partly, of course, thanks to Donald Trump’s offhand remark, which was probably very well-planned and timed. So here’s a link to the latest Powerline article.
I’m not even going to try to attempt to summarize it; it’s too complex, and cannot be understood without reading the entire thing. It makes a strong case but not a 100% convincing one. I don’t know what I think, but I do know that it doesn’t sound at all like a crackpot theory. Whether it’s true or not should be investigated further, although because of certain difficulties inherent in the history of convoluted relationships and name changes, the only way to determine the truth or falsehood of the claim would probably be a DNA test that’s almost certainly not going to occur.
The entire story has been predictably labeled by the MSM and the left as “unfounded” (see this as well as this). However, although it is certainly unproven, it is certainly not “unfounded,” as a perusal of that Powerline article will tell you. There is plenty of credible evidence to support it and it remains to be seen whether it is true.
By the way, what Trump actually said was this:
“There’s a lot of talk about the fact that she was married to her brother. I know nothing about it.”
He added, “I don’t know, but I’m sure that somebody would be looking at that.”
I can’t argue with a single word of that, except perhaps the word “sure.” I’m not sure that anyone with any authority and power will actually be looking into it, although maybe Trump is correct even on that score.
Now, you might say that it’s “unpresidential” to bring up such things. But if one’s antagonist is possibly a tax cheat, a perjurer, and guilty of immigration fraud through a bogus marriage to her own brother, it’s worthy of mention as warranting further investigation.
Trump is already known for strategically bringing up something potentially damaging to an opponent, often with even less evidence—in some cases far less evidence, such as his ridiculous and vile charge concerning Cruz’s father and the Kennedy assassination, made by Trump during the 2016 campaign season. It’s not my favorite trait of Trump’s, to say the least. But in the case of Omar’s shady history he has a great deal more evidence and a great deal more ground to stand on in making his suggestion that this set of circumstances regarding Omar should be investigated.
It should.
The virtue of David Steinberg’s analysis of Ilhan’s marital history is that it puts the onus on the MSM’s “investigative journalists” to knock it down step-by-step, line-by-line. What step is “unfounded” ?
Please elucidate MSMers.
So what if she married her brother in order to get him into this country? Nothing will happen to her. In fact, after Kamala gets elected POTUS Omar will be the UN Amb.
Omar is immune. She’s black, female and Muslim. To prosecute her for anything would be result in an absolute firestorm. Trump and Barr would be racists to enforce the law against Omar.
Intersectionality is the order of the day. The rule of law doesn’t apply to certain people.
The facts and law don’t matter any more. We can’t talk honestly about race in this country. And, of course, Muslims are a protected class.
Oh my Lord. Looks like the Democrats have cornered the bigamist vote.
Discuss….
David Steinberg did the difinitive work, and now others are getting on the wagon with other images, photoes and videos
and now, legal immigrants are speaking up and are not happy
https://theminnesotasun.com/2019/07/18/commentary-the-congresswoman-representing-somalia/
in the Authors one words… (And speaks for a lot of us ex paradiso residents)
As an immigrant from the no-longer-with-us USSR, I believe I have as much moral authority as anyone to tell Omar: you should return to the country you represent and take up permanent residence there.
you havent noticed that the only people not fooled and been waving the warnings are ex soviets? havent been fooled by this one iota..
he tells a story i put in the nxt post.. as i knew these CHANGERS..
Cornhead:
Perhaps I’m being naive, but I actually believe that—at least, at this point in time—the majority of people would welcome a prosecution of just about anyone who seemed guilty of what is alleged here. It really depends on how strong the case is.
I don’t think we’ve quite reached the tipping point you say we’ve already reached. In this case, I hope I’m right on that.
Which doesn’t mean she actually will be prosecuted. It really depends on how strong the evidence is in the legal sense.
I still know them… they populate my work… they are peopel who had good standing back home… maybe military… communism was good to them… or at lest not all that bad and they had and knew their place… here? well, they are lost… and they still pine for a place that doesnt exist.
they are worse than the refugees, who instill in their kids the idea of going home to a palce that ceased existing long ago… they know bette,r they lived it, they escaped it and so… they lost their reason
except these came much later and go and come back as they will..
but they wont go back and they arent comfortable here…
Neo, I’ve commented here since the beginning and this is the first time I’m publicly saying this (yet I’m technically anonymous with my name “Baklava”.
This past year was a living hell for me. I’ve read Ann Corcoran’s Refugee Resettlement Watch website https://fraudscrookscriminals.com/2019/06/30/refugee-resettlement-watch-turns-twelve-tomorrow-if-it-still-exists/
for years and believed as a conservative (former liberal before 1991) but for some reason did the unthinkable:
1) I met a 6 person family from Afghanistan and saw they were all living in a 3-bedroom apartment. They were on assistance for food, housing, education etc.
2) Here in California – yet I’m blessed enough, I bought a 3500 square foot home with technically 5 bedrooms but really 7 for the family to then rent for a substantial discount.
3) After moving in and they moved in another man not on contract and then discovering their illegal activities (I will not get into here), I executed on a 3-day conviction which is allowed when there are illegal activities including moving somebody in not on the contract.
4) They moved out and then proceeded to issue three small claims cases against me for $10,000 each. One has finished and I won and the family was ordered to pay me instead. Two are coming in August.
The pattern I see is simple: ALL dealings with government from yes workers compensation, in home health services, food assistance, housing assistance, education assistance all have CLEAR fraud and not one government agency including the small claims court ever holds them accountable.
I cannot judge everyone based on this personal and anecdotal experience except to say – I cannot see how this ends well for Americans (black, white, anyone). We have been overrun – we owe too much. We are pulling a wagon with few and inside the wagon is many. I support President Trump though I wish he was more articulate and I wish he would clearly educate people like Ann has tried to do for years.
But he is inept.
4) They didn’t fight
Artfldgr:
I had a razocharovanty relative. I didn’t know him—he returned to the Soviet Union in the 20s or 30s, if I’m not mistaken—and so of course I never met him. But he lived well into the 60s and I believe the 70s, and various family members used to get things over to him (or buy them there, if memory serves) in order to help him out. I have no idea how he felt about his return and whether it was a good idea or a bad idea, but he certainly seemed to need and to welcome financial help. Other members of the family referred to him as “poor Grisha”, if memory serves me. He had come here as a leftist, before the revolution, and believed the pleasant tales about it, and returned thinking he would enjoy the glorious USSR.
Sorry. Eviction not a conviction.
Neo:
If Hillary could skate, then Omar skates. Hillary’s crimes were much worse than Omar’s alleged crimes. There’s only so much heat Trump can take on the race front, IMO.
And what the heck is marriage any more? Just a piece of paper!
Baklava:
I’m sorry to hear about your troubles. I don’t think that the law is as unwilling and/or as impotent everywhere as in California, however. But perhaps it is. If it’s rental law you’re up against, California has just about the strongest tenant protection laws in the country. It’s almost impossible to evict someone there for any reason.
If people come here from a country in which crooked dealings are the norm or at least very very common, it is obvious that a very significant number of them will continue to function that way.
Cornhead:
Omar could indeed skate. For many reasons, and one of them is that her offenses may be difficult to prove in a court of law. Another reason is, of course, her protected racial, ethnic, and religious status. A third is her political position.
But I do think most people in the US still would like someone who seems likely guilty of such acts to be prosecuted no matter what their ethnicity or position.
Neo:
Back in the old days, she would have been indicted. Jesse Jackson’s son got sent to the slammer. But those days are gone.
If the FBI was serious, it could get DNA samples from the brother and Omar. The FBI is clever that way and could do it and they’d never even know.
The thing of it is, that a prosecution of Omar would send a message to the entire immigrate community that sham marriages and other immigration fraud is not allowed. But I don’t think Trump and Barr will do anything. I could be wrong.
I’m referring to the fraud.
They are already evicted and I’m already selling the house for a wash.
But there are 10 government entities they have committed fraud with and there is no accountability.
There is one small claims case (small claims cases are limited to $10,000) which they claim they gave me $10,000 cash for a car (literally that is what it says). That is complete fraud – perjury on court documents.
But now they know me, my address, my employer, they keep serving me with these malicious small claims cases and what can any american do. It isn’t about rental law. It’s about the rule of law and complete lack of candor or truthfulness.
“Investigative Media”????
Surely you are joking.
Check out the latest:
https://pjmedia.com/davidsteinberg/ilhan-omar-happened-because-media-chose-to-lie-to-you/
Baklava:
These people have figured out how to game the system. They don’t have a rule of law culture like we used to have.
I can recall about 20 years ago when I found out about how people were driving without car insurance. We are becoming a Third World country. Or at least we are importing them and their rotten cultures.
And look up the parol evidence rule. You have to demand strict proof as to the delivery of cash. And attack their credibility on every front; including all of the lawsuits filed against you.
Thanks Cornhead.
I am trying to postpone that case because it is scheduled when I have a non-refundable ticket for Hawaii. I’m so irritated lately and cannot fathom how any American can be for this fraud of a person named Omar.
Or Huma (Hillary’s old friend)
And – I am – all of the evidence I have found is in front of the court including the criminals they and those case numbers they are working with in Nevada – names case numbers, pictures.
One case down – two to go. They haven’t paid for their first loss.
Now I know why the class system exists. They lost a case yet there is not a way for me to collect because they have no wages to garnish and no property to stick a lien to .
Baklava:
I don’t know all the facts, but a plaintiff can’t split up a case into three in order to stay in small claims court.
How these people quickly figured out how to game the system is amazing to me.
And the public never had any resolution on those Pakistani guys who worked IT for all the top Dems and had the used car business on the side. A total and complete disgrace.
If Trump and Barr went after Omar, it would be a great distraction for the Dems. But they better have rock solid evidence before they take it to a grand jury.
Omar has top legal help. Her brother has probably moved to Corelone, Sicily and is laying low.
From these accumulating reports, It would seem as if there are at least prima facie indications of numerous violations of several laws by Omar–law breaking that, if proven true, could and should earn her substantial jail time, and result in her deportation.
Yet, our glorious MSM has steadfastly looked the other way, evinced a vast lack of curiosity, and covered for Omar–same as they did (and are doing) for Bill and Hillary, same as they did (and are doing) for Obama.
Moreover, it looks as if no one in authority wants to go after her, either because Omar is just too great an exemplar of the far Left, and too good a bludgeon against the few remaining centrist Democrats, Trump, and Republicans, and/or for fear of being called a “racist.”
Nothing, it would seem to me, is more capable of creating anger, cynicism, and despair about America’s claimed “equal justice under the law,” or distrust of our legal institutions, law enforcement, and governing institutions than to see that some people can flagrantly and pretty publicly violate the law and, yet, go about their business–unscathed, unmolested, and unpunished– after actions that would subject the average citizen to arrest, prosecution, a likely conviction, and a long jail term.
Nothing could be more corrosive to social cohesion, either.
Omar and her enablers are basically thumbing their noses at us law abiding Americans, snickering at us, “playing the system,” and sneering “tough luck suckers.”
Cornhead wrote, “plaintiff can’t split up a case into three in order to stay in small claims court. ”
One was $10,000 for “labor” because they said I made them clean the house.
One was $10,000 because they said they gave that much for a car.
Apparently, the government doesn’t care about fraud anymore with one group.
Baklava: I sold my more modest house in San Francisco. A friend was really down on me for not renting it for the monthly income.
On paper it being a landlord sounds great. Put up a few notices, then collect the rent. But I’ve never done it, I’m not good with people, paperwork or hand tools, and I didn’t want to stay in California. Sure, it might have worked out great.
But if it didn’t? If the major part of my net worth got tied up in some crazy “Pacific Heights”* situation or if there were a sudden collapse in housing prices, where would I be? I’m not one for risks I can’t calculate well.
If I were younger, I might have held on, but I’m not.
*https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacific_Heights_(film)
That things might be difficult to prove in a court of law does not mean that prosecution should not be undertaken. “Rock solid evidence” is not necessary for a grand jury to give a hearing. Grand juries indict ham sandwiches all the time. It is the actual trial that matters!
Democrats won’t hesitate to do that. There is nothing better than to grind a citizen, even an Omar, down with all the resources of the Federal government. It is a part of LAWFARE, and the adversaries of Democrats must bring those same legal weapons and tactics to their shoulders, aim, and fire.
Juror selection is critical!
We gotta play by Dems’ rules for themselves. Alinsky uber Alles!
Huxley, I’ve been a property manager for 3 years prior.
This family was a big mistake of risk – I even saw red flags going in which ensure I got a million dollar liability insurance on the policy instead of the usual $15,000 or whatever the default amount was. The 15 year old boy jumped out of the second story window into the pool and the family was recording – I freaked inside and had each person delete and show me they deleted that.
There is no norm – no custom – no way to merge. Simply put there is not hate in my heart – there is only a realization that politicians have foisted on us a fraud without the personal knowledge that many of us have experienced. This all is a travesty in the making of many proportions.
While I will leave California the day after retirement – I know many who think like I do and Gavin Newsom wasn’t the beginning. The writing is on the wall. San Francisco has had 30% homeless increase in ONE YEAR
If Ahmed Elmi was Ilhan Omar’s brother, he would have qualified for a Green Card as the brother of a US citizen. So why would any marriage be necessary? https://www.uscis.gov/greencard/eligibility-categories
Three of my friends were school principals in the North of Dallas area, now all retired. 20 years ago they were telling me about all their Muslim children relocated from all sorts of Middle East and Asian countries. These folks were a National Geographic mix of Muslims, they had their children on every aid, lunch and assistance program and a lot of them drove rather expensive luxury cars and SUVs to pick the kids up after school. Any argument between teachers and admin staff was never solved through discussion of the occurrence and one of my principal friends being a woman told me that the fathers felt refused to talk to her about anything because she was a woman.
Nice people who have been putting down their roots for several decades and by the way, the Mosque had a lot of problems with funds going to those who spread terror.
As for Omar, it would be nice if enough evidence could require a DNA test which would free her of the problem unless it is true that she married her brother. I also think proof that a marriage is not a sham is consummation of the relationship and of course that would be incest which, if it is not illegal, it is really yucky.
huxley:
Pacific Heights was based on a real incident, apparently. See this.
Ann:
For many countries it takes ten years and even much more for a sibling to get in. For parents, children, and spouses, the process is much much faster. And this type of wait isn’t just true under Trump; it’s been true for a long long time.
The man she married was a British citizen, by the way. He wasn’t coming from Somalia and wouldn’t have qualified as some sort of refugee, either.
“Omar is immune. She’s black, female and Muslim. ”
Somalis are dark skinned caucasians. their facial features are clearly not like west africans
avi:
But “black” is commonly used in this country to refer to skin color. At any rate, she is certainly a “woman of color” as it is currently defined.
But “black” is commonly used in this country to refer to skin color. At any rate, she is certainly a “woman of color” as it is currently defined.
OK, so if a white person is not as fair as Glinda the Good witch are they “woman of color”?
you are lighter skinned than Sandy of Aragon , whose family Im sure tortured Sephardic Jews when they weren’t exterminating the native peoples of the New World..
Joseph Goebbles was swarthier than white arab Tlaib was he a person of color?
Indians are aryans like Germans are they people of color?
and Omar is light brown as light( if not lighter) as Obama and like Iman doesn’t posses Michelles negroid features.
Neo is probably right about why, assuming this story is true, Ilhan opted for a sham marriage rather than the correct procedures. According to the Steinberg story (read it all) something changed about the Somali chain migration rules just before Ahmed came here, because DNA analysis had shown the vast amount of fraud. And, as Neo points out, Ahmed has British papers, so he’s not qualified as refugee at all.
avi:
“People of color” and “brown” is defined how the left wants to define it.
Jews are never “brown”—except perhaps some of the Ethiopian Jews who emigrated to Israel, and they are only “brown” to the left if the left is trying to say that Israel discriminates against them.
Their definition of color is political, in other words.
However, although my coloring was (I have gray hair now) very much like that of AOC, her ethnic heritage as measured by DNA—like that of many people who come from Puerto Rico—is probably much more of a mixture than mine is. Many Puerto Ricans have a great or lesser degree of African (black African) heritage, as well as a greater or lesser degree of Native American (of the Central and/or South American variety) heritage as well. It can be small or large. AOC probably has at least a small degree of that.
And to top it all off, a lot of people from Spain find, when they have DNA tests, that they have some Jewish ancestry as well. Sometimes a small degree but sometimes not so small.
So in terms of DNA it’s complicated—not that the left really cares about the DNA part. I don’t really care about AOC’s DNA either, and if she was white as the driven snow or black as the darkest night I would not feel any differently about her than I do now.
If you’re interested in Puerto Rican DNA, see this. An excerpt:
Also Neo while I will concede many people incorrectly base race on skin color just like people incorrectly think the word loan is a verb. However accepting that You then cede them use of the race card that which is wrong.
Obama who was born and raised in a white WASP slaveowning family with no African American heritage and whose ancestry (and anti Semitism) is far far closer to Himmler, Goring and Duke than Ben Carson. Yet too many cucks let him get away with it.
The definitions of “color” have become so fluid that it’s best, if we were sensible, to stop trying to define who is how much what. But the country isn’t sensible, at least not the leftist half.
I did meet Sudanese and Somalis when I lived in North Africa who looked a lot like me, except dark skin and hair. My tall daughter and I used to joke that we were albino Sudanese. Avi, is there some actual information on this? People living all their lives in the US seldom have much appreciation for the great differences among African peoples throughout the continent.
Not truly familiar with this particular case but I believe another incentive for marrying a sibling for immigration purposes is that to sponsor a sibling for immigration the applicant must be a US citizen, but to sponsor a spouse for a temporary staying visa that could eventually lead to application of green card the applicant only needs to hold a green card that is another 5 years of wait time saved.
Avi said,
“Somalis are dark skinned caucasians. their facial features are clearly not like west africans”
Uh… no. From an expert: “Now when we come to the Horn of Africa, there are basically three groupings of peoples involved in the ethnic mix of Ethiopians and Somalis:Cushites, Semites and Bantu or Nilo-Saharan. … These languages are Cushitic and are related distantly to the Somali/Maay group.”
The Somalis are the result of a major clash of cultures.
Bantus aka west African, negoid, Congo’s or whatever you prefer have the least genetic influence on Somalia.
Nilo Saharans Ethiopian and Cushites and obviously semites are part of the caucasoid race
Many Russians have mongoloid eyes but like the Somalis are overwhelmingly genetically caucasoid
I always assumed if Omar had a decent explanation she would have explained, instead of accusing questioners of racism and bigotry.
The average Puerto Rican individual carries 12% Native American, 65% West Eurasian (Mediterranean, Northern European and/or Middle Eastern) and 20% Sub-Saharan African DNA.
Yes I am aware, but in all of Latin America the higher in social class the more European and since her father was a corporate executive hers is of the high end of the Puerto Rican scale. I will agree that she likely has far more Native American than Warren.
But truth be told , I really dont care about her DNA , but I won’t allow her to culturally appropriate a minority identity and I will use Alinsky tactics back on her. and if Jews are not or were never brown than neither is arab tlaib or mostly Inquisitor Cortez
avi:
It’s the left that defines everything by race and is completely obsessed with it, and they define the races for the MSM, and they do it politically. Everyone from Puerto Rico is “brown” according to them, and it doesn’t matter how white a person from Puerto Rico may be or what the person looks like.
And of course anyone who criticizes a person from Puerto Rico—or any other population defined as “brown”— is a racist.
Cornhead,
Bring on the firestorm.
“The battle, Sir, is not to the strong alone; it is to the vigilant, the active, the brave. Besides, Sir, we have no election. If we were base enough to desire it, it is now too late to retire from the contest. There is no retreat but in submission and slavery. Our chains are forged. Their clanking may be heard on the plains of Boston. The ware is inevitable. And let it come! I repeat it, sir, let it come! It is vain sir to extenuate the matter.” Patrick Henry
Dave:
At the time she married her alleged brother, Omar was already a US citizen.
avi:
It’s the left that defines everything by race and is completely obsessed with it, and they define the races for the MSM, and they do it politically. Everyone from Puerto Rico is “brown” according to them, and it doesn’t matter how white a person from Puerto Rico may be or what the person looks like.
And of course anyone who criticizes a person from Puerto Rico—or any other population defined as “brown”— is a racist.
BINGO
so the answer is to cower like a Romney
or fight back like a Trump.
I choose the latter and will use Alinski tactics back at them.
avi:
Yes, to fight back is the answer. Not every single thing Trump does or says to fight back is quite right, though. But he is spot on far more often than not. And accepting the left’s definition of things, and their accusations of racism, is absolutely not the way to go.
They need to be challenged. Racism exists. But a great great deal of what they call racism is not racism at all.
Yes I am aware, but in all of Latin America the higher in social class the more European …
avi: I once had a Mexican co-worker named Jaime Del Palacio. A very special guy. But he hardly looked Mexican at all. Pale blue eyes, silky ash-blonde hair, fair skin.
That was Jaime of the Palace.
“…if Omar had a decent explanation she would have explained…”
But of course she has a decent explanation (she always does):
…a false charge “that I will not dignify with an answer.”
https://www.newsweek.com/video-ilhan-omar-responds-trump-claim-pro-al-qaeda-dignify-answer-1449398
“…and that’s all ye need to know…”
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“Jews are never “brown”—except perhaps…”
Might this mean that you haven’t seen too dark-complexioned Ashkenazim. Or Cochin—or other Indian—Jews lately? Or Jews originally from North Yemen (as opposed to Aden)?….
Should be, “…too many…”
Some in the MSM are making a big deal about Trump saying that he didn’t like the chants of “send her back” at this rally the other day, seeing this as a split between Trump and his base.
One possible reason I have seen given for Trump’s stand is that–given the numerous pieces of documentary and other evidence that have recently come to light about Omar’s possible Immigration fraud in entering this country, her actual family name and family, her marital status, and tax filings, etc.–it is possible that the DOJ has opened an investigation into Omar, and all these potential violations of Immigration and other Federal laws.
If that is the case, Trump does not want to give any ammunition to his opponents to be able to say that Trump had animus against and was persecuting Omar, if and when Omar is indicted, prosecuted, convicted, and potentially stripped of her U.S. Citizenship, her membership in Congress (can’t be a member of Congress if you aren’t a legitimate citizen of the U.S, now can you?), and deported back to Somalia.
If these allegations are, indeed, true, can you actually see the DOJ prosecuting Omar?
Can you actually see our left-leaning and gutless government stripping Omar of a fraudulently obtained citizenship and deporting her?
Can you see our current Congress revoking her membership in that supposedly august body?
What a firestorm those actions, if taken, would create!
That’s why I doubt that–however merited such a prosecution and the actions to follow guilty verdicts might be–they will never happen.
It would be very easy to indict Omar for tax fraud. She claimed she was married to her current husband when she wasn’t. But that is not a big number and usually people aren’t indicted for that.
Msm’s reaction is a great tell on whether there is any legitimacy with these accusations of omar marring her brother in a immigration fraud scheme.
If trump’s accusations get minimal mentions even in cnn and other liberal outlets, liberal media choosing to sweep it under the rug instead of debunking the accusations with hard evidence and weaponize the false accusations to hurt trump and paint him as racist is a tell there is at least probable cause
Barry Meislin:
I don’t think you read my entire answer about Jews and being “brown.” The word “brown” is in quotes for a reason. It’s not about the color of the skin. It’s about being a favored victim group as designated by the left, and the Jews are not, no matter how dark their skin. I even mentioned the darkness of certain Sephardic Jews (from Ethiopia) and how they are only considered “brown” by the left when the left is trying to say Israel discriminates against them. “Brownness” is a totally political designation by the left, not an anthropological or biological one.
And I’m merely describing it, not ascribing to it.
avi/Neo: The Left needs to be opposed, not just challenged. The Left must be opposed on everything it seeks to achieve. Everything.
A good place to start will be by ignoring the few things that Trump gets wrong, or mis-speaks about, or misunderestimates. Trump is giving his all for America, the America of old that I love. He is astonishing in his vigor, his views, his actions despite his age of 73. He is awesome! We must not niggle about minor differences between us and him. He deserves 100% maximum support.
Artfl, thanks very much for the quotes from Mr. Bardmesser and for the link to his piece at The Minnesota Sun. Excellent polemic and music to my ears. It really is nice to read something positive about our country.
Of course, it don’t count, onaccounta Mr. B. is from the late unlamented U.S.S.R., and therefore almost certainly White — i.e., not brown,black,red,or purple (yellow don’t count anyways); and even worse he’s Jewish! So for both reasons he is an angel of Shaytan and speaketh with forked tongue.
Even more, thanks for the info on the razocharovanty, a term I’ve never come across before, especially the fact that they went back to the good ol’ Motherland, found she just didn’t suit, and came back.
The same thing, by the way, happened with my mother-in-law’s parents, who came here from Hungary shortly after the turn of the century. My Honey’s grandma gave birth to his mother in NYC, but decided she just couldn’t stand it here, and dragged the family back to a normal country, namely Hungary. After three years there, she decided she’d made a mistake, so they all trooped back here, and remained for the rest of their lives.
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Edward, thanks for the PJ Media link. Mr. Steinberg sounds downright annoyed!
Tangentially, from Edward’s link above, a quote from Mr. Steinberg’s piece in which he not-so-gently chides the Strib for its lack of interest in presenting any less-than-laudatory material on Mizz Omar. He notes that the Minneapolis Star-Tribune is not the only bad guy on the block vis-a-via Omar, not to mention — well, see for yourself:
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