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Hey, let’s super-incentivize coming here illegally — 7 Comments

  1. Similar taxes have been advocated by many prominent economists over the years, including John Maynard Keynes, Joseph Stiglitz and Lawrence Summers. At least 40 countries currently or previously have had financial-transaction taxes of one sort or another… [John Carney as quoted by Neo above]

    “Prominent economists” as distinct from necessarily accurate or knowledgeable. And of those forty-plus countries who have (or had) financial-transactions, exactly which of those economies rivals the U.S. economy? I’ll wait . . . .

    As our mother’s often told us, if everybody jumps off a bridge . . . .

  2. The transaction tax would collapse volume, far more than the cited Scandinavian example from a few years ago. You can argue whether or not high-frequency trading is beneficial, but it supplies the vast majority of today’s liquidity and could not operate with these rules.

    Someone looked at the IPO documents from Virtu Financial (a very large market making firm) and calculated that they do about 800,000 trades every day with an average profit margin of $0.0027/share. That’s about 1/4 cent per share. If you slap a 10 cent/share tax on top of that, the business is obviously unsupportable. Liquidity goes away, volume dries up (at least 2/3 of today’s volume is HFT), and Bernie’s projected tax revenues disappear.

  3. Those greedy capitalists show an average profit of 1/4 of a cent per share and the altruistic government shows a tax 40 times that profit. Sounds about right for any budding utopian Marxist.

  4. The answer to all these “free schemes” (free in that the government pays for it) is to point out that the government has NO money. Any money the government uses to pay for “free stuff” has to come out of the taxpayer’s pockets. The “free programs” are in actuality redistribution of the nation’s money from the taxpayers to those who benefit from the programs. Ask the taxpayers if they want to pay for these “free” programs. They are not in actuality “free.” There is no free lunch. Someone has to provide the money to the government to pay for them.

    When they say they will tax the rich to pay for “free stuff,” point out that the rich (the top 1% of taxpayers) paid a greater share of individual income taxes (39.5 percent) than the bottom 90 percent combined (29.1 percent). The rich are already paying a lion’s share of the taxes.

    When they say that the Federal government can print money, you have to point out that printing money that isn’t backed by the wealth of the country creates hyper-inflation. Examples of that are easy to point out – Venezuela and Zimbabwe are suffering hyper-inflation. from over production of money right now.

    The points above are easy for any rational person to grasp and should blunt the allure of political freebies . At least to the 139 million taxpayers, most of whom vote.

  5. An additional point. The tax on Wall Street transactions sounds plausible, but as pointed out by other commenters, it would have unintended consequences. It is always good to remember the law of taxes. If you want less of something, tax it. Easy to grasp.

  6. Anti-financial populism helped get Andrew Jackson elected, but his subsequent actions that made good on his rhetoric also likely drove America into it’s first great depression.

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