A done Deal
“I am pleased to inform you that The United States of America has reached a signed agreement with Mexico,” President Trump tweeted Friday night.
“The Tariffs scheduled to be implemented by the U.S. on Monday, against Mexico, are hereby indefinitely suspended,” he added.
“Mexico, in turn, has agreed to take strong measures to stem the tide of Migration through Mexico, and to our Southern Border,” he said.
“This is being done to greatly reduce, or eliminate, Illegal Immigration coming from Mexico and into the United States. Details of the agreement will be released shortly by the State Department. Thank you!”
IIRC, there are currently 140,000 refugees per month wanting admittance at southern US borders. When that goes down substantially, I will believe it.
Mexico blinked.
The pattern I see is Trump does nothing then declares victory.
He told you that the wall has been built. He says Mexico is already paying for it. North Korea is denuclearizing. Obamacare has been repealed. I could go on.
None of theses things have actually happened. It’s not that he failed. He didn’t even try.
There was no real summit with North Korea…it was just spur of the moment magical thinking, by his own accord.
John McCain stopped nothing except Trumps ability to buy more time to pretend he’s repealing Obamacare. There was no real plan on the table.
On his signature issue, things are worse than when he started. He had both branches and did nothing. Now he’s lost the House and its too late. There’s still no wall and Mexico ain’t paying for it. The new nafta is same as the old. But somehow you still get fooled again.
Done deal?
Not until some OTHER destination offers a better relative delusion of “an easy life”.
New obstacles ? Sure.
But if there’s gold to be had…….
Trum is making an example of Mexico, to push on China, since China could always export to Mexico and then the USA.
Somebody in the administration knows their trading. Unfortunately for America, the media is still lying dumb sacks that Americans are gullible enough to believe in.
The beginning of emigration reform, which should reduce the collateral damage from immigration reform at both ends of the bridge and throughout, loss of life in social justice zones, and, hopefully, illuminate the unprecedented loss of life under the planned parenthood protocol that has been in progress and obfuscated behind ethically, legally, socially, and physically impenetrable walls.
Time to put a 100% tariff on the remittances sent by any who have accepted welfare support. The remittances in those cases are theft from the American taxpayer.
Its only tentatively a “done deal,” since I’m pretty sure–based on their past behavior in taking many actions to encourage and facilitate this slow motion invasion of the U.S.–that the Mexican government will try, in every way they can, to cheat.
I suspect that this “deal” is one that the Mexican government only agreed to as a way to stop the immediate imposition of tariffs and that, either they may never actually do what they have agreed to do–hoping that by the time it is certain that they are not doing what they have agreed to do, the
appetite for trying to actually impose these tariffs has dwindled, or, if they do implement their end of the deal that, after some time has passed, they will slowly back off their implementation of the terms of the deal.
I wonder if the deal includes stationing U.S. observers in Mexico to make sure that the Mexican authorities stick to the deal, and don’t gradually reduce it’s enforcement.
If such a provision was not included, it should have been.
Remittances are a big deal.
The figures I have seen are that such remittances annually suck around an estimated $35 Billion dollars out of the U.S. economy–money that is transferred to Mexico, where this $35 Billion now forms Mexico’s largest single source of revenue.
Remittances are thus a great point of vulnerability for Mexico, and these remittances–transfers of wealth from our economy to that of primarily Mexico–should be taxed and discouraged.
The figures I have seen also estimate that while illegal aliens–the vast majority of them from Mexico–make a total contribution in taxes to our economy of around $16 Billion dollars per year, they consume around $165 Billion dollars each year in social services.
So our economy–us taxpayers–you and I–are out a net of around $150 Billion dollars a year that are not being spent on the needs of us U.S. taxpayers, but have been diverted to pay for the extra costs–health care–including pregnancy and delivery charges, educational, housing, food, clothing, incarceration and other costs due to the presence of these illegals in our country.
Add in the remittances on top of the $150 Billion, and the presence of illegal aliens here in the U.S. costs the U.S. almost $200 Billion dollars per year.
Why should we continue to be patsies? Why should we stand for this?
Snow on Pine:
I certainly didn’t mean that this means Mexico will actually fulfill the terms of the deal. But the deal itself is done.
Snow on Pine: Not doubting you, but do you have some convenient links on these figures?
Huxley–As with many controversial issues, you can pick your statistics from a number of different sources that can support one side or the other, but there are organizations that have better reputations than others for doing good research.
On some issues, there are no good, solid statistics that everyone agrees on.
Systematic collection of statistics just isn’t done on other controversial issues, and that failure to collect statistics is, I think, deliberate.
Why collect statistics when you’re pretty sure you won’t like the results, and that they are also likely to stir up increased controversy?
Statistics/estimates about the illegal alien issue—starting with just how many illegal aliens there are here in the U.S.—are all over the map and, in general, MSM/Left-leaning publications quote lower numbers/analyses indicating less impact, and more conservative publications quote higher numbers/analyses indicating higher impact.
Some of the sources I’ve looked to for statistics include—
PEW foundation statistics on Remittances at https://www.pewresearch.org/global/interactives/remittance-flows-by-country/
Remittance estimates—different estimates—see one, more recent estimate here at https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/01/02/migrants-remittances-to-mexico-central-america-jump-to-53-billion-in-2018/
Details about the mechanics of remittances here at Judicial Watch—at https://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/2019/04/most-of-the-33-billion-in-remittances-to-mexico-flow-via-u-s-govt-banking-program/
Federation For Immigration Reform (FAIR) estimates for the cost of illegal immigration to the U.S. at https://www.fairus.org/issue/publications-resources/fiscal-burden-illegal-immigration-united-states-taxpayers on cost
Here is FAIR’s 2017 Report,”The Fiscal Burden of Illegal Immigration on United States Taxpayers at https:// http://www.fairus.org/sites/default/files/2017-09/Fiscal-Burden-of- Illegal-Immigration-2017.pdf
The Center for Immigration Studies looks at immigration issues from a lot of different angles, and has a lot of statistical and analytical reports at https://cis.org/
Here’s a 2016 article from FORBES that quotes a total of less than $12 Billion in taxes paid by illegal aliens at https://www.forbes.com/sites/niallmccarthy/2016/10/06/how-much-tax-do-americas-undocumented-immigrants-actually-pay-infographic/#67cc09581de0
Here’s an article from 2017 saying that California alone spent more than $30 Billion dollars annually, almost 18% of their entire annual state budget, on illegal aliens see https://nationaleconomicseditorial.com/2017/02/21/costs-illegal-immigration-california/
Here’s an article that quotes $330 Billon dollars as the annual net cost to the U.S. because of the presence of illegal aliens in the U.S. at https://newswithviews.com/cost-of-illegal-immigration-per-illegal-alien/
I’ve also found some of the more recent statistics–trend line always upward– quoted in various newspaper and magazine articles.
We have a foreign aid program, of which Mexico is a beneficiary, among other nations (why do we send money to other countries in the first place??).
Every dime spent on illegal Mexicans in the USA should be deducted from their aid budget.
Same for illegals from any country which receives American foreign aid.
Since most third-world countries put the bulk of the aid money in their own pockets, that should get their attention.
What if Mexico doesn’t follow through? Sundance knows!
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2019/06/08/trump-doctrine-border-and-migration-agreement-with-mexico-likely-to-produce-significant-results/#more-164824
Snow on Pine: Thanks for the research! I’ll check out the links.
A city in New Mexico OKs the Wall on private land. Story from May 30:
https://www.theepochtimes.com/update-new-mexico-city-allows-construction-of-border-wall-on-private-land_2945022.html
Trump likes deals where America “wins” — meaning gets better terms than now. He is good at getting better terms. He uses real tariffs, not just threats, and is willing to get bad PR from Reps to push the tariffs as tools to get better cooperation.
Aesop nicely shows Trump’s preferred deal: If they fail, Trump (& America!) wins; if they succeed, Trump (& America!) wins.
Objective folk gotta give the Prez credit for getting a “deal”. Now let’s see the follow thru in the next months and years.