“So it begins. Brennan and Co. have apparently decided to burn a source in advance of Barr uncovering the CIA’s role in the initiation and conduct of the FBI investigation, under the ironic guise of claiming that Barr’s investigation will burn the source. So they gave him to NYT.”
See the tweet for the full NYT quote.
….and off the DemRats scampered like vermin through the aquaduct ….!!!!
Very interesting, sdferr. It will not surprise me at all to see multiple pre-emptive revelations in the next few days, and then howling from the left when Barr makes the revelations official.
Let the games begin!
Last night I commented the real downside to Democrats’ impeaching Trump is they may push him into a “Release the Kraken!” moment. That was before I read about the declassification.
Make no mistake — I’m all for declassification. It’s a great place to start and a well-deserved brushback to Pelosi, but it’s not Kraken level yet. I’m sure Trump is holding stronger stuff in reserve.
Again, it’s a testament IMO to Trump’s patience and strategic approach (aside from officially inconsequential tweets) that his responses have been so calibrated.
There are terribly many threads of abuses yet to be revealed. Here’s another.
*** If what Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee, D-Texas, says is true, the scope of the FBI’s FISA efforts for its counterintelligence investigation into President Trump’s 2016 campaign and its ties to Russia span far wider than previously known. So far, it is only confirmed that the FBI obtained FISA warrants targeting onetime Trump campaign aide Carter Page.
During a hearing on Dec. 19 with former Attorney General Loretta Lynch, the transcript of which was released on Monday, Jackson Lee mentioned three other individuals.
“I want to talk about the spring, summer, and autumn of 2016. Carter Page, at the time, was suspected of being a Russian asset; George Papadopoulos had told the Australian ambassador that Russians had Hillary [Clinton] emails; Paul Manafort had been named Trump campaign manager; Michael Flynn was Trump’s chief national security adviser and foreign policy adviser and, just yesterday, had a continuance in his sentencing,” Jackson Lee said. “One thing that all of these persons had in common was that each was the subject of a FISA Court investigation, which we now know, and all were directly connected to Trump. As attorney general, you had the authority to oversee FISA application process. Is that correct?”
Lynch replied “yes,” after which Justice Department lawyer Bradley Weinsheimer cut in to say Jackson Lee’s question “potentially gets into possibly classified information and also equities in an ongoing investigation.” ***
I am slightly optomistic Barr is the real deal. Release all infomation to the public. Let bright sunshine prevail on send the rats scurrying off the deep state into cold waters.
I’m getting more optimistic.
I’m waiting, without holding my breath, for indictments.
There still might not be any this year.
There might be more than five – I’m hoping for dozens.
According to blogger Don Surber, who reads the New York Times so I don’t have to, the latest objection to the declassification project is that there is, still believed to be alive, a super-secret source who has information about Putin’s efforts to interfere in the 2016 election. Disclosing that source would be disastrous, they say. But perhaps they didn’t read the Mueller report, which finds, as Asst. AG Rosenstein also said, that there is no evidence that any US person conspired with or colluded with Putin or any other Russian government person to affect the election. Since there is no Trump connection, why would Barr disclose such a source’s identity? He wouldn’t, of course.
So Kate, suppose on hypothesis that this super secret Brennan’s closely held agent is not working for Brennan, while pretending to be working for Brennan, but is instead working for Puti, putting silly little nothings into Brennan’s rattling braincase (silly little nothings that have dominated the US political scene for the last two and a half years, with no endpoint in sight)?
Well heck, of course the source would still be alive . . . alive and wearing medals pinned on his chest by Vlad himself, along with whom he’s had a good long laugh at the amazing stupidity of the great John Brennan!
Now on this hypothesis, why in the hell wouldn’t Barr take a manner of glee in exposing the fellow (supposing, of course that Barr and Haspel have made the determination that this is a double-crosser without doubt)? Who, apart from Brennan, would be the wiser?
But the thing is, the leaks to the NYT have already exposed this guy. If he’s to be a goner that’s already a done deal, thanks to the leaker and the NYT.
Now, I see that the Democrat’s current line about this about to be revealed classified material is “oh, sources and methods, sources and methods, if they release all of this classified material well, then, sources and methods will be revealed, will be compromised, thus, they shouldn’t reveal this information. ”
Can’t have that.
Lets just stipulate that this is a crock of scheisse.
The whole point of AG Barr (in conjunction with Intelligence officials, by the way) evaluating these classified documents before their release, is to make sure that sources and methods aren’t revealed.
I’m pretty sure that when these documents start to appear, the Democrats will shift their argument and then say, well, “while these documents make a lot of people look really bad, the information that was withheld, was redacted (in an attempt to smear them), will exonorate them.
So, a la the Mueller Report, the Democrats will say that they can’t accept the picture these documents paint, since some of the material has been redacted (which they well know has been done in accordance with law), and they will demand to see those redacted parts, knowing that they can’t.
I note, in passing, reports that while a redacted version (the redactions amounting to just a couple of lines, a sentence or two) of the Mueller Report has been available on Capitol Hill for members of Congress to read, not one single Democrat has done so.
You’d think that, if knowing what was in that Report was so important and, reading it might enable these Congressmen to make a good guess as to what had been redacted, that Democrats would be trouping down to read the Report.
The fact that they haven’t–that not even one Democrat has bothered to walk down and look at the Report–shows that their objections are just a hog trough full of swill.
Yes, Snow on Pine, it’s not about finding out the truth. It’s all about the “narrative.”
Kate,
That’s a very good piece from Mr. Surber. Thanks.
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Not placing any bets that anything will come out of it. One could hope, but I am just too cynical anymore.
I think the rats are already turning on each other in anticipation,
This may declassify some things that will help Horowitz.
Jason Beale: https://mobile.twitter.com/jabeale/status/1131971172629995520
“So it begins. Brennan and Co. have apparently decided to burn a source in advance of Barr uncovering the CIA’s role in the initiation and conduct of the FBI investigation, under the ironic guise of claiming that Barr’s investigation will burn the source. So they gave him to NYT.”
See the tweet for the full NYT quote.
….and off the DemRats scampered like vermin through the aquaduct ….!!!!
Very interesting, sdferr. It will not surprise me at all to see multiple pre-emptive revelations in the next few days, and then howling from the left when Barr makes the revelations official.
Let the games begin!
Last night I commented the real downside to Democrats’ impeaching Trump is they may push him into a “Release the Kraken!” moment. That was before I read about the declassification.
Make no mistake — I’m all for declassification. It’s a great place to start and a well-deserved brushback to Pelosi, but it’s not Kraken level yet. I’m sure Trump is holding stronger stuff in reserve.
Again, it’s a testament IMO to Trump’s patience and strategic approach (aside from officially inconsequential tweets) that his responses have been so calibrated.
There are terribly many threads of abuses yet to be revealed. Here’s another.
Will Chamberlain: https://mobile.twitter.com/willchamberlain/status/1131937679116046336
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Will Chamberlain ??
@willchamberlain
This is an incredible abuse of power if true
People forget about how contemptible the Obama Administration’s volte-face on Israel was pre-inauguration
And now we learn Power was spying on American citizens who opposed her Israel policy and unmasking their names
Appalling”
Again, click over to read the whole thread.
Washington Examiner: Democrat claims four Trump campaign officials targeted by FISA investigations
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/democrat-claims-four-trump-campaign-officials-targeted-by-fisa-investigations
*** If what Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee, D-Texas, says is true, the scope of the FBI’s FISA efforts for its counterintelligence investigation into President Trump’s 2016 campaign and its ties to Russia span far wider than previously known. So far, it is only confirmed that the FBI obtained FISA warrants targeting onetime Trump campaign aide Carter Page.
During a hearing on Dec. 19 with former Attorney General Loretta Lynch, the transcript of which was released on Monday, Jackson Lee mentioned three other individuals.
“I want to talk about the spring, summer, and autumn of 2016. Carter Page, at the time, was suspected of being a Russian asset; George Papadopoulos had told the Australian ambassador that Russians had Hillary [Clinton] emails; Paul Manafort had been named Trump campaign manager; Michael Flynn was Trump’s chief national security adviser and foreign policy adviser and, just yesterday, had a continuance in his sentencing,” Jackson Lee said. “One thing that all of these persons had in common was that each was the subject of a FISA Court investigation, which we now know, and all were directly connected to Trump. As attorney general, you had the authority to oversee FISA application process. Is that correct?”
Lynch replied “yes,” after which Justice Department lawyer Bradley Weinsheimer cut in to say Jackson Lee’s question “potentially gets into possibly classified information and also equities in an ongoing investigation.” ***
I am slightly optomistic Barr is the real deal. Release all infomation to the public. Let bright sunshine prevail on send the rats scurrying off the deep state into cold waters.
I’m getting more optimistic.
I’m waiting, without holding my breath, for indictments.
There still might not be any this year.
There might be more than five – I’m hoping for dozens.
According to blogger Don Surber, who reads the New York Times so I don’t have to, the latest objection to the declassification project is that there is, still believed to be alive, a super-secret source who has information about Putin’s efforts to interfere in the 2016 election. Disclosing that source would be disastrous, they say. But perhaps they didn’t read the Mueller report, which finds, as Asst. AG Rosenstein also said, that there is no evidence that any US person conspired with or colluded with Putin or any other Russian government person to affect the election. Since there is no Trump connection, why would Barr disclose such a source’s identity? He wouldn’t, of course.
https://donsurber.blogspot.com/2019/05/the-press-serves-deep-state.html#more
So Kate, suppose on hypothesis that this super secret Brennan’s closely held agent is not working for Brennan, while pretending to be working for Brennan, but is instead working for Puti, putting silly little nothings into Brennan’s rattling braincase (silly little nothings that have dominated the US political scene for the last two and a half years, with no endpoint in sight)?
Well heck, of course the source would still be alive . . . alive and wearing medals pinned on his chest by Vlad himself, along with whom he’s had a good long laugh at the amazing stupidity of the great John Brennan!
Now on this hypothesis, why in the hell wouldn’t Barr take a manner of glee in exposing the fellow (supposing, of course that Barr and Haspel have made the determination that this is a double-crosser without doubt)? Who, apart from Brennan, would be the wiser?
But the thing is, the leaks to the NYT have already exposed this guy. If he’s to be a goner that’s already a done deal, thanks to the leaker and the NYT.
Now, I see that the Democrat’s current line about this about to be revealed classified material is “oh, sources and methods, sources and methods, if they release all of this classified material well, then, sources and methods will be revealed, will be compromised, thus, they shouldn’t reveal this information. ”
Can’t have that.
Lets just stipulate that this is a crock of scheisse.
The whole point of AG Barr (in conjunction with Intelligence officials, by the way) evaluating these classified documents before their release, is to make sure that sources and methods aren’t revealed.
I’m pretty sure that when these documents start to appear, the Democrats will shift their argument and then say, well, “while these documents make a lot of people look really bad, the information that was withheld, was redacted (in an attempt to smear them), will exonorate them.
So, a la the Mueller Report, the Democrats will say that they can’t accept the picture these documents paint, since some of the material has been redacted (which they well know has been done in accordance with law), and they will demand to see those redacted parts, knowing that they can’t.
I note, in passing, reports that while a redacted version (the redactions amounting to just a couple of lines, a sentence or two) of the Mueller Report has been available on Capitol Hill for members of Congress to read, not one single Democrat has done so.
You’d think that, if knowing what was in that Report was so important and, reading it might enable these Congressmen to make a good guess as to what had been redacted, that Democrats would be trouping down to read the Report.
The fact that they haven’t–that not even one Democrat has bothered to walk down and look at the Report–shows that their objections are just a hog trough full of swill.
Yes, Snow on Pine, it’s not about finding out the truth. It’s all about the “narrative.”
Kate,
That’s a very good piece from Mr. Surber. Thanks.