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  1. “Deportations”

    Hmm, why would anyone object?

    Since if France is not France, then wherever this pretended “deportation” might end up is likewise nowhere different than the now extinct “France”, or to say another way, just the same as this nonexistent “France”. Utterly indistinguishable from anywhere else, no matter the arbitrary names which may have prevailed heretofore. So then, what’s the problem?

  2. Again, arrest them, jail them, take their biometrics, and if they won’t tell you where they’re from, put them on a ship which travels the oceans. When said ship arrives at the place their haplogroup suggests is your single best guess as to their point of origin, transport them in a shuttle boat to as close to the shore as you can get them, put them in a row boat, and leave. If that’s the alternative, they’ll get on the Air France jet every time.

  3. It would be so very tempting to get my own megaphone and yell into it, “No it doesn’t! Where did you ever get such a stupid idea?” And leave it at that.

  4. Why all the fuss?

    All they’re doing is parroting Macron (and all they’re “guilty of” is the “highest form of patriotism”….):
    https://twitter.com/emmanuelmacron/status/1061657617683111942?lang=en

    But not just parroting Macron. Merkel and Pope Francis, too. (Let’s not even get started on Sweden.)

    Which, if he’s the genius he seems to think he is, ought to give Macron an idea: Deport all those lovely guests to Germany, Sweden and/or the Vatican…. Immediately.

  5. This is interesting:

    Luigi Di Maio, Italian deputy prime minister and leader of the populist Five Star Movement, has blamed France for impoverishing Africa and encouraging migration to Europe.

    He accused the French government of manipulating the economies of mainly former French colonies in Africa, which use a form of the pre-independence currency known as a CFA franc.

    “France is one of those countries that by printing money for 14 African states prevents their economic development and contributes to the fact that the refugees leave and then die in the sea or arrive on our coasts,” said Mr Di Maio.

  6. This is interesting:

    No, it’s inane. France could have done a better job as an imperial power and as a foreign patron, but they’re not the source of West Africa’s deficits. West Africa needs human capital, appropriate technology, and more secure property rights. It’s what they don’t have, not what’s been done to them, that’s the major problem. The one exception to this would be the effect of poll taxes on land use (for agriculture and animal husbandry). However, the African government’s doubled down by setting up monopsonies in the cash crop sector, which also injured the rural population.

  7. The next French revolution will make Robespierre seem like a moderate.

    ‘Sez who?

  8. If this starts happening here, there’s an easy solution. Every time the left starts a disruptive protest… roll a few rotten egg stink bombs into the crowd. That will ‘non-violently’ break up the disruptive protest.

    Even if they start bringing gas masks to their protests, yelling into a megaphone will be prevented. And, standing around in gas masks will be seen as amusing.

    If they’re going to stink up the place, let them enjoy the full extent of… the stink.

    And, if they get violent, they lose any claim to the moral high ground. Since the right to protest does not grant the right to riot.

  9. I also wonder whether this tactic will spread to the US. My guess is “yes.”

    they are copied with a cutout leader in each nation

    or didnt you notice?

  10. “Where did you ever get such a stupid idea?”” [Jamie @ 4:52]

    It’s the penultimate stop on the globalization express. The final stop is everything belongs to everybody; imagine, no possessions!!

  11. Western Civilization, with all of our crazy crap we have done in the past 2000 years, lots of wars, lots of moving around, like the migration across the Atlantic from England, Holland, Spain and France going back 400 years and we have had a rather decent run here in North America. When I left on a plane from Cancun in the mid 1980’s after sitting in an un-air conditioned plane where the airport had been chaotic for a few hours which was normal in those days, the man sitting next to me was a magazine publisher and when the doors finally closed and the wheels came up we all cheered. The publisher sitting next to me then leaned over and he said someday these sorry assed people will be fed up and start walking North and we will be screwed.

    I don’t know if at my age with ten or fifteen years to go I will see us have the same problems as Europe or at least until the last two years I didn’t but here we are. I am also thinking we are not getting the best and brightest out of the folks crowding over our porous borders in record numbers and there is some strong economic backing and leadership directing this stuff along with skillful publicists and media to make us normal people appear to be right wing racists, I think we have a problem.

  12. I used to think it was only the nutters who believed “diversity + proximity = war”

    Now…I’m not so sure.

  13. Some young European people are fighting back against this sort of nonsense. Frenchman Jordan Bardella is 23, and Belgian Dries Van Langenhove is 26. Their media claims they are “far right.” I wouldn’t know, but you can read an intro here.

  14. Pym Fortuyn began to fight back. He was assassinated in May 2002. His killer was released from prison after serving 12 yrs of an 18 yr sentence.

  15. Way back before the turn of the century, Uncle Sugar’s Canoe Club dragged me to France twice, and this being the internet that experience makes me feel entirely qualified to pontificate about the internal affairs of that nation.

    Anyway, what I recall from my scholarly visits is that the actual French people had a few issues about the various newcomers to their country, but they were nothing like what we see today. For example, the vehicular barbecue that apparently happens with some regularity was quite unimaginable, as is the idea that “migrants” could simply occupy some part of the country and commence issuing demands and threats, without consequence.

    My take- as a scholar of France- is that violence is coming. Real, ugly, terrible violence. These newcomers- who don’t seem to have ever grasped such concepts as “firepower” or heard of the ghastly toll of the First World War- simply presume no one will ever be angry enough about their behavior to simply decide to solve the problem by killing them.

    Maybe- hopefully- I’m wrong, and this will all work out.

    But I doubt it.

  16. Immigration reform (and social justice) in lieu of emigration reform (and justice).

  17. “Look at me. I am Captain now!”
    There’s a historically effective manner in dealing with over population, and invasion by foreign forces, if needed.

  18. “The final stop is everything belongs to everybody; imagine, no possessions!!” T

    Ha! Count on it. Possessions for the elite and their ‘facilitators/thugs’ will be on “permanent loan” from ‘everybody’.

    Some animals being more equal than others…

  19. The left has been pushing this idea for a long time. Back in October 2014 the Washington Post published an op-ed condemning “borderism” as a “sibling of racism.” It almost as if they want to see chaos and the end of the rule of law.

  20. Globalism is not about the end of the rule of law. Globalism is about the end of local and national law. Nature abhors a vacuum and all of that. Globalism is just a sneaky way to build bigger empires with fewer people at the top.

  21. The useful idiot globalist elites haven’t been realizing that it’s nation state laws which have been protecting them, and their wealth, from global socialist redistribution.

    A wealth tax I coming to the USA, despite its problems — and the failure of the wealthy elites to more fairly pay their workers and instead overpay the company VPs and Finance trained CEOs makes me totally unsympathetic to the elites as rich fat cats, tho I still oppose high taxes in general. Until the rich Dems are advocating for less gov’t benefits, making them pay more in taxes is better than making normal folk pay more.

    @T The final stop is everything belongs to everybody; imagine, no possessions!!
    No borders, no countries, no religion too – everything shared.
    Imagine! (It’s easy if you try.)

    France, and America and the IMF / World Bank “foreign aid” dependency enablers do deserve a lot of blame. What poor countries need is better laws (usually fewer), with more universal applicability. Same law for rich and poor (many feel the US is losing this). They need a small gov’t which defines and enforces individual property rights. Which are necessary for democracy based civilization. (Monarchies don’t need them so much.)

    Everybody in the world deserves to live is reasonable, law-abiding country. America has been a great leader; France has also often been inspiring. Yet French elites have some very anti-civilization ideas, which they defend with fierce intellectual arguments, emotions, and often great, dramatic literature. Which are nevertheless bad arguments.

  22. Everybody has a right to everything.

    Everybody has an inherent right to his own life.

    (Corollary: Nobody has an inherent right to anybody else’s life, nor to any part thereof.)

    (If anybody attempts to co-opt someone else’s life, or a portion thereof, he thereby renounces in full or in part his right to his own life. This is justice, a.k.a. Sauce for the Gander.)

    He who creates a thing is its rightful owner, because it results from a part of the maker’s life: his time, his body, his effort. A person who receives a thing in trade or as a gift from its rightful owner (but not necessarily its original rightful owner), with the willing consent (not mere acquiescence) of its rightful owner, becomes its rightful owner.

    As always, the devil is in the details, and the ideal is a thing to aim at, but rarely can be reached. Nevertheless, the basic intuition is that slavery, the nullification of somebody else’s self-determinatioin in whole or in part without his willing consent, is wrong.

  23. Xennedy,
    I think you are correct, violence (or more violence) is coming. I have thought so for years.

    I suspect there is a considerable amount of firepower hidden in those banlieus, where the writ of the French state no longer runs. If the French decide to resist by force the Islamic takeover of their country , and the Islamic groups bring out their weapons, I think it will look like a cross between the War in Algeria (either one) and the suppression of the Paris Commune. I am not at all certain the French would win.

    The army would have greater firepower, but do they have enough soldiers to fight half a million men armed with AK-47s, RPGs and other weapons of that sort? In Syria and Iraq, ISIS used suicide bombers like a softening-up artillery bombardment. That could be done in France, too. And about 15% of French forces are Muslims. Maybe the French should recruit a lot more men into the Foreign Legion.

    For many years now the world has felt to me like the thirties must have felt to those with eyes to see what was coming.

  24. Michael Lonie,

    I think your comment is spot on, alas.

    Except I suspect that- people being people- the French will be prove to be equal in ruthlessness to their recently imported islamists, regardless of the pronouncements of the EU or the UN or the globalist media or the local mullahs.

    We’re still early. I’m pretty sure that most of the provocations that will ensure that haven’t happened yet.

    Interesting times…

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