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  1. Congress is probably silent because it probably needs both House & Senate to change the census. And it does not have the Senate.

    Congress, as usual, gave the responsibility, and most of the daily authority, to the Commerce Dept (??) on the Census. That’s part of the Executive, as usual.

    A big part of the legal question should be, “who decides”. Previously, Congress had decided on the bureaucrats, but now the Dems want the courts to block Trump’s bureaucrats.

    The failure of Congress to act, when it could, should mean that the Commerce Dept.’s decision to add the citizenship question should stand.

    Also, if 5% is the number of under-reports, that sort of implies 5% of 300 mil or 15 million illegals or legal non-citizens.

    I seldom hear about how many legal non-citizens there are.

  2. The left constantly tries to conflate legal and illegal immigration, and pretend that people on the right have an issue with legal immigrants; and especially, pretend that people on the right are almost entirely motivated on the issue of immigration by racism.

    The left doesn’t want the message out there that most people on the right are fully aware that every single person on this continent is an immigrant, or the descendant of immigrants, and all we ask is that if you want to come here, come here legally, follow our laws, support yourself and your household, and assimilate.

  3. It would be nice if the Census struck a blow against racism by eliminating racial questions. My answer “Other: American”

  4. RE: “Congress has been alerted to this citizenship question for some time, and it has done nothing about it. So one question is who should decide? Congress is silent. Should the Court then step in?”
    If Justice Ginsberg really feels that way, then she should vote to throw to support the President, but I don’t think that she will. Sadly, as in other matters, Congress has granted authority to the President, but a group of judges in places like Hawaii has decided that this President doesn’t have that authority. If the SCOTUS does not step in, then judges get to re-write laws anyway they see fit because … reasons.

  5. Of course, national identity is not conventionally understood as a race. But since racial identity has been thoroughly debunked, we might as well use the archaic question for reality-based identities. Nationalities, cultural backgrounds, and philosophical leanings reveal infinitely more about us.
    Speaking of philosophy, preferring to believe that race is anything more than a social construct (fiction) despite scientific findings to the contrary is dualism run amok. Dualistic overreach is a weakness of the mind. Nondualistic awareness (aka advaita or advaya) cures the ills of divisive ideas like race.
    Needless to say, citizenship is a real and meaningful distinction. It is completely appropriate to ask about it.

  6. The answer to this question–if asked–will also determine the apportionment of members of the House of Representatives for each State, and is also used to determine the amount of Federal aid given to each state.

    Thus, an additional motive to not want this question asked is that a State that had suffered a substantial loss in it’s citizen population would not want this to be found out, because not only would such a loss reduce the amount of Federal aid their state received, it would also reduce their voting power in the House, because their congressional delegation would be reduced in number proportionate to their loss in population.

  7. The Left’s motivation for opposition are transparently obvious.

    But it could be used as a great aid to ICE. Whose agents, according to this article has the power, if so directed by Trump to immediately deport the illegal immigrant sans judicial hearings…

  8. Census returns are confidential for 72 years after the forms are completed. Ancestry.com issued digital images of the 1940 returns just a few years ago.

  9. Art Deco–Census material is pretty dry, and it may not be worth it to breach it’s “confidentiality”

    But, in general, does anyone really think that anything is really “confidential” these days, that there are some “sacred” boundaries that are not to be crossed–and aren’t.

    If we have learned anything from the last few years, it is that what used to be the traditional boundaries have been trampled down.

    So, if someone–in government or out–sees some benefit from accessing and even publicizing what used to be “confidential” information, from the evidence the chances are, they will do it.

  10. It would be delightful if Ginsburg were to vote with the conservative justices on this.

    And Democrats continue to conflate legal and illegal aliens. Someone here legally on a non-expired visa or a green card has no reason to fear filling out the form.

  11. The 10 year US census has many uses. One of which is to set up congressional districts based on population for the next 10 years.

    So when you have a LARGE Non-Citizens illegally in the country, that tend to gather in certain given Democratic Metro areas. Areas that are willing overlook and illegally harbor them. Then counting them as US Citizen population then becomes a process of manipulating the congressional representation process and abusing taxpayer funds and even Voter Fraud.

  12. Has there been any actual Justice Ginsberg sightings as of late?

    She was at Georgetown University last week, speaking at a symposium on gender equality. Even praised Justice Kavanaugh for having a staff of all-female clerks.

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