The world’s most violent cities
I have to say that these findings somewhat surprised me, although on reflection I know they shouldn’t have: 42 of the 50 cities in the world with the highest murder rates are in Latin America.
I certainly was aware that a great many countries south of the US have experienced high rates of violence (lots of it gang- and drug-related). I just hadn’t realized how tremendously skewed towards that area worldwide violence is.
Of course, when we’re talking about statistics like that, we’re not talking about war or even civil war, although it could be argued that gang violence borders on that. We’re talking about the homicide rate in each city. We’re also talking about reported statistics rather than actual rates, and the two can vary. A nation has to have a certain amount of order to be able to even issue such statistics.
For example:
Another country which saw a drop in violence was Venezuela, although this was not a good thing, the report says.
The reason for the drop is not because of a fall in violence, but a weakening of government control meaning authorities can no longer effectively count the number of homicides in their cities.
Researchers point to two [Venezuelan] cities – Cumané¡ and Gran Barcelona – which were removed from the top 50 table but only because they could not effectively establish the murder rate.
Brazil and Mexico are very high on the list, but some US cities managed to earn a place on it as well: St. Louis at 13, Baltimore at 21, and New Orleans and Detroit at 41 and 42. South Africa scored similarly, with Capetown at 15 and two others towards the bottom of the list.
[NOTE: I tried to put the chart of countries here, but—as seems to occur more and more often these days—it got cut off at top and bottom when I tried to copy it. I think this has something to do with more and more sites protecting their photos and graphs, and so you’ll have to follow the link to view it there if you’re interested.]
…but some US cities managed to earn a place on it as well: St. Louis at 13, Baltimore at 21, and New Orleans and Detroit at 41 and 42.
They are all black-majority cities run by Democrats and have seen population collapses since their 50/60s peaks.
Correlation is not necessarily causation.
I’d be curious to look further into St Louis.
Wait, wait… I thought the plague of US gun-owners made all of our cities more dangerous than anywhere else in the world…
It was interesting that the current #1 murder spot was not even listed previously.
“Los Cabos, in Mexico, was ranked as the most violent city in the world, the first year it has featured anywhere on the list”
Mexico may have another contender soon.
I saw this a couple of days ago; have several friends and relations that go to nearby Cancun & Cozumel often.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/destinations/2018/03/08/usa-issues-travel-warning-mexican-resort-town/406262002/
“A travel warning has been issued for Playa del Carmen, Mexico, following an unnamed threat that has closed the U.S. Embassy there.”
Neo: “Of course, when we’re talking about statistics like that, we’re not talking about war or even civil war, although it could be argued that gang violence borders on that. ”
The map would look a lot different if those were included.
Of course, I consider Palestinian attacks on Israel to be murders, not war — if the Arabs ever declared a formal war, they know what would happen — and one might argue that government extralegal executions and bombings of civilians are homicide, as apart from deaths of uniformed troops.
And where do we put Boko Haram and ISIS and other free-lancing terrorists? Their actions are murder, but maybe their quantity doesn’t bring them into the top 50.
I think “St. Louis” means the Metropolitan Area,which includes 98% black East St. Louis, in dismal economic shape. Only 21% of households there are occupied by married couples, 40% by single mamas.
Los Cabos, at the tip of Baja, is part of a major tourist destination. Acapulco used to be the place to go 40 yrs ago, but then Baja developed.
The first twelve bad cities are Latino. St. Louis is #13.
Latin countries look terrible. I’m glad that Deetroit and NOLA are near the bottom. The USA looks pretty good, doesn’t it?
Should upset our gun haters, because civilians are not allowed to be armed in Latinolands. But they do not deal with facts, only emotions. Their primary emotion is fear.
There are enough good historical records for some places that a few scholars have been able to come up with good approximations for murder rates in various parts of Europe, from the 1200s to the present. For example, medieval England was about as violent as parts of Africa and Central America today.
https://www.historyextra.com/period/how-bloody-was-medieval-life/
One scholar named Steven Pinker published “The Better Angels of Our Nature” in 2011. His thesis was that violence had declined over the centuries, and he identified six possible reasons.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Better_Angels_of_Our_Nature
As for Latin America today, there are the factors of the drug trade, poverty, and lack of development. The population itself in that region is largely mestizo, with variations for individual countries. And since we are coming up on the 500th anniversary of the Spanish conquest of the Aztec Empire, we should not forget that Hernan Cortes and his fellow adventurers noted some quaint cultural practices among the inhabitants of Tenochtitlan (now Mexico City).
I was surprised that Chicago was not on the list.
There is some good news coming from Honduras. From the link:
In 2011 and 2012, San Pedro held the dubious honor of being the murder capital of the world. Inside San Pedro Sula, the ‘murder capital’ of the world.
In five years, San Pedro (what most Hondurans call San Pedro Sula) went from “top of the list”- murder capital of the world- to 26th.
From 2011 to 2017, the murder rate in Honduras went from 86.5/100,000 to 42.7/100,000.That is progress.
https://panampost.com/elena-toledo/2018/01/04/honduras-sees-reduction-in-homicides-drops-out-of-ten-most-violent-countries/
One scholar named Steven Pinker published “The Better Angels of Our Nature” in 2011. His thesis was that violence had declined over the centuries…
Yankee: Steven Pinker is an intellectual worth knowing for conservatives. He is liberal/libertarian. I bring up “The Better Angels of Our Nature” to liberals stuck in the doom and gloom they are often stuck in.
Julian Simon got there first but he was a conservative economist who made Paul Ehrlich look bad, so liberals won’t listen to Simon.
Pinker’s latest book, “Enlightenment Now: The Case for Reason, Science, Humanism and Progress” is similar with a strong accent on Enlightenment values. He recently spoke up against Identity Politics as a betrayal of Enlightenment values.
http://www.weeklystandard.com/steven-pinker-identity-politics-is-an-enemy-of-reason-and-enlightenment-values/article/2011595
He’s also currently married to Rebecca Goldstein, one of the speakers along with Jordan Peterson in the video Baklava recommended yesterday.
My comment posted and then a review of “Enlightenment Now” popped up in my RSS feed:
https://www.city-journal.org/html/welcome-golden-age-15761.html
I like Pinker. Even though he’s a Harvard professor, he’s on the right side IMO.
And he’s got amazing hair.
More good news from Colombia. 1989: Colombia records world’s highest murder rate.
That would have given Colombia a murder rate of about 75 per 100,000 in 1989. From what I have read, that is also about what the murder rate was through 2000 or so.
That was then, this is now. From Wikipedia: In 2016, Colombia had a murder rate of 24.4 per 100,000 population, the lowest since 1974. The big International Murder page on Wiki gave Colombia a murder rate of 26.5 for 2015.
I knew someone in Colombia who as a child lost his father to a violent death. In this case, it was death by earthquake. The Colombian Andes have some of the most beautiful sights I have seen. But their earthquakes can make it a terrible beauty at times.
huxley: wasn’t Pinker’s sister Susan in the news recently, throwing cold water on some of the libleft’s notions?
I can’t find the post now, of course, but I understand that some of her research supports some of James Damore’s contentions.
Another country which saw a drop in violence was Venezuela, although this was not a good thing, the report says.
The reason for the drop is not because of a fall in violence, but a weakening of government control meaning authorities can no longer effectively count the number of homicides in their cities.
In addition, much of the crime comes from the police in Venezuela. Put “police commit 20% of crime in Venezuela” into a search engine. For example, from NPR, hardly anyone’s model of a news organization seeking to defame leftists. In Venezuela, A Family Blames The Police For Their Misery.
It has gotten worse in recent years. In Venezuela, Police Kill Someone Every 1.5 Hours.
So it goes in Venezuela, where the murder rate has at least tripled in 19 years of Chavismo.
Back in the day, I had mixed experience with Venezuelan cops. The bad: paid some bribes to traffic cops, but my bosses had forewarned me and instructed me how to finesse bribes into expense reports: dinners with PDVSA geologists or engineers. So a pain but ultimately no harm to me.The good follows.
I arrived at 3:30 in the morning by taxi in Anacao, from a Bolivia-Caracas flight. My manager in Bolivia had given me no contact information for the company in Anaco. I went to the police station in Anaco, asking them if they had any phone information. As the manager lived in rental housing with the phone under the landlord’s name, no. The police let me sleep in their dorm, and they drove me to the company in the morning. They got a Christmas bottle of rum for their hospitality.
I think i have finally come up with an answer to answer the question why is illegal immimmigration harmful. Illegal immigration in its natural is quite comparable to counterfeit money. Even setting aside the businesses who were victimised by receiving valueless fake money for their products, Counterfeiting dollars is a victim less crime on the surface but dig deeper you will realise it victimise every American by decreasing the buying power of each dollar we have by increasing the money supply in the economy. Illegal immigration victimised every American but decreasing the tangible and intangible value of American citizenship. By limiting the issuance of immigration visa America has the ability to attract talented people around the world as well as entrepreneurs around the world to invest 1 million each in America to bring jobs and opportunities here. America citizenship has a certain value, each low skill illegal immigrant will take up the resources Given to him and the opportunity cost lost by having him in country instead of another talented high skill worker and the contribution he could have bought in.
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Here is some of the data for that.
Manju:
See this.
Extreme violence is the Norm in the Ummah, but it’s not recorded as such for the kafir.
The routine violence against the kafir is not actually even deemed a crime… and is sanctioned by the police… if you want to call them that.
Pakistan
Iran
India
Their numbers are off the hook.
Neo, I think that for once you miss the pattern here. Quite unusual, that’s to be said, since one traditional virtue of this blog is to read between lines.
The pattern here is the mixing of white and non-white culture (South-America is 50% Spanish or Portuguese and 50% indigenous, only exceptions are Chile, Paraguay Argentina). White institutions are still strong enough to report the bodies, but the society has become violent and dangerous. Is South Africa the African country with the three most dangerous cities in the continent? Or is the African country that still keeps institutions professional enough to report the body count?
Same can be said about US cities.
Violence close to home (systemic failure is not just a feature of Parkdale, Florida):
https://tinyurl.com/y873l2ew
As for Pinker, here’s a dissenting opinion:
https://www.newstatesman.com/culture/books/2018/02/unenlightened-thinking-steven-pinker-s-embarrassing-new-book-feeble-sermon
Related:
https://nypost.com/2018/03/11/parents-up-in-arms-after-nypd-removes-cops-from-schools/
Makes you wonder….
FINALLY, the 3/8/2018 Queens University speech with Dr. Jordan Peterson.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwdYpMS8s28
This is where the woman was arrested with a garrotte after breaking a window.
Deconstruction begins by me:
First the person who introduced Dr. Peterson mildly discussed freedom of expression.
At 9:50 the protestors start in with the disruptions..
At 10:48 Dr. Peterson says, “That’s pure narcissism at work btw”
At 21:30 the banging on the doors start. Between 10:48 and 21:30 was a remarkable discussion.
Neo wrote: St. Louis at 13, Baltimore at 21, and New Orleans and Detroit at 41 and 42.
I believe there are California cities that should be on the list. Maybe they aren’t large enough. Stockton for instance might be too small.
And what does 30,000 car break-ins per year in SanFrancisco do for their status? Nothing – but people consider all the facts not just homicide rates.
“I’d be curious to look further into St Louis.”
“I think ‘St. Louis’ means the Metropolitan Area…”
No, just the opposite. At the turn of the 20th Century, St. Louis City seceded from St. Louis County because it did not want its tax money used to expand the metropolitan area beyond its natural borders. As a result, all of the growth that occurred in the 1920’s and 1950’s occurred in St. Louis County, not St. Louis City.
As a result of that, St. Louis City is a fairly small area of mostly slums with just 300,000 residents unable to dilute its violent crime statistics with the 1,000,000+ residents of St. Louis County.
Most other major American cities have areas just as violent as St. Louis, but they also have areas within the city with much lower crime. In the St. Louis region, those low-crime areas are almost all outside the city limits.
So the statistics are skewed.
The statistics are a deception.