Parkland authorities: let the record show…
It would be a tedious and lengthy process to list all the ways in which the authorities messed up during the events leading up to and including the Parkland shooting. If you’ve followed the coverage, you probably already know what many of these ways are—although,since the MSM often gets things wrong, there’s no way to be sure the story we get today is the story we get tomorrow, and neither may be the full truth.
One particularly egregious failure to react properly appears to have been the actions of Scot Peterson and three other Broward County police officers who were outside the high school and stayed there, guns drawn, while the carnage was going on inside. Again, these are preliminary reports and we don’t know whether it actually happened this way, and if so why. Was this a policy of watchful waiting set out by the Broward police powers-that-be, and were the officers on the scene just following protocol? Or was (as I speculated here) there a set of individual failures of courage involved?
And the FBI’s failures have been likewise egregious. Reading the text of a recent call to the FBI from a concerned friend (or relative) of Cruz or his family, it’s hard not to feel mounting outrage at the FBI’s refusal to act in any way, not even to do something as simple as passing the information on to the local authorities. If ever there was a clear-cut case needing intervention, it was this one:
The tipster, whose relationship with Cruz was also withheld, said Cruz bought rifles and ammunition, using money from his dead mother’s bank account, and posted pictures of them on the mobile application Instagram. Cruz’s mother, Lynda, died Nov. 1.
“It’s alarming to see these pictures and to know what he’s capable of doing and what could happen,” she said of his Instagram. He also wrote he wants to “kill people,” she told the FBI employee.
She spoke to the FBI for 13 minutes. That’s a long time, and she gave a lot of very specific information. One of the things she said was this: “I just know I have a clear conscience if he takes off and…just starts shooting places up.” She had also called local police, according to the call.
The FBI tipster was not the only person who reported major problems with Cruz, both to the FBI and to the local police. And yet nothing of any note was done. Why? We can speculate all we want, and there is no dearth of theories, but I suggest that it was due to a combination of protectiveness (from the family and friends, who kept choosing not to press charges) and an official policy of preference for nonintervention, as well as sheer overwhelming incompetence.
The incompetence stems at least in part from the failure to connect any dots. So many alarms were sounded, from so many sources, all concerning the same young man, and yet it appears that for the most part each incident was treated separately. Was there even an attempt to link them, or a capacity for linking them, or any interest in linking them? Is it a police policy to treat each incident as though it were the first, as long as there are no arrests?
The ball was also dropped by the mental health system, which could have invoked a law in Florida known as the Baker Act (see this) and had Cruz involuntarily committed—for a little while, anyway. However, the counselor who initially evaluated Cruz did not recommend it (see note on chart for 9/28/16). Hindsight is 20/20, but I wonder whether the counselor had access to Cruz’s record, or if he/she merely made a decision based on a quick interview with Cruz?
My impression, however, is that the school did what it could. For example, in the same incident:
A counselor at the school told the Florida Department of Children and Families investigators that a professional from the mental health facility had visited Cruz and “found him to be stable enough [to] not be hospitalized.” The school counselor expressed concern with the department, according to the report, and said she and her staff wanted to “ensure that the assessment of Henderson was not premature.”
I get the impression of a school desperate to kick this upwards and get Cruz more intervention than they could give, but frustrated with the lack of a serious enough response from authorities. I can only imagine what that school counselor feels like right now. She gets to say “I told you so,” but what good does that do anyone?
It seems that many many people who encountered Cruz along the way tried to do the right thing, too. He was reported to authorities by ordinary citizens over and over again. So the failure doesn’t seem to be with the public at large, either.
The entire picture is frustrating, disturbing, and anger-provoking.
Dissecting the failures that led to the horrific attack reminds me of many aircraft accidents that I have seen investigated over the years. When all the evidence is examined after the tragedy, it becomes quite clear that the accident could have been prevented had someone at some point taken action to break the chain of circumstances that created the accident.
The value of aircraft accident investigations was always the dissemination of knowledge about what caused the accident. The intention being to inform others so better procedures and regulations could be put in place which would prevent the same mistakes from being made.
It appears that the high emotions, reputations at stake, political partisanship, and general attempts to pass the buck are impeding the dispassionate examination of the failures to act that allowed this mass shooting to occur. It seems quite clear to me that a new law, which provides a workable protocol for schools, law enforcement, and mental health providers to follow when faced with cases of mentally unstable students, would be the first order of business. Instead, many are busy blaming guns while others are trying to avoid being blamed for their failures. In the meantime, nothing workable/practical actually gets done. And so it goes.
Maybe President Trump’s idea of arming some school staff has merit, but how many who are armed might not be up to confronting the shooter? A question with no known answer at this point. Would it be better to harden the schools much as the airports/airplanes have been hardened? Maybe. It’s expensive, but we may have to pay that price as we seem unwilling/unable to profile mentally ill students.
One thing I am convinced of. No matter what steps are taken to improve safety in schools, anyone who says they know how prevent all such tragedies is uninformed.
The Wiki entry on the Univ of Texas clock tower shooting reads like an account from an alternate universe.
Officers and civilians cooperated in redirecting traffic, running towards the gunfire, then laying down suppressing fire with handguns and hunting rifles while a a smaller group took the tower WW2-style.
One civilian was deputized on the spot. A police sharpshooter flew around the tower taking shots and distracting the killer.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Texas_tower_shooting
It’s a helluva story but doesn’t quite fit the current narrative.
Two possible interpretations.
Deep State told FBI to stand down, with interesting consequences.
Spirits are involved.
It’s a helluva story but doesn’t quite fit the current narrative.
there were heroes then, there still are by they are red state types.
In my day , if someone panicked and hid in a closet while gym coaches who would have been armed if allowed fought off and saved lives, that closet was wouldn’t shout out on TV that he hid in the closet. he would keep quiet and praise the heroes who didn’t was out.
who knew that there would ever be a contest as to who is the biggest a-hole named Scott Peterson?
I can’t speak to Broward County’s training and policies.
But I can say that ever since Columbine, most agencies changed their policy; Before, the policy was to wait for a SWAT presence of some kind or to wait for a significant force to arrive, then enter the scene.
Such is not the case in most places anymore.
I attend training twice a year on the latest Active Shooter material. It consists of classroom, firing range and room-clearing type drills (with simuntions). We are taught to enter the scene and how to do so. We use an old nursing home at night without lights. We sweep and clear rooms. We practice alone, in pairs and in groups as large as 5. There are actors playing the roles of shooters and victims. It is extremely stressful but incredibly enlightening.
Like Clint Eastwood said, “A man’s got to know his limitations.” Exercises like that are a pretty good way of learning your limitations. Probably as close as you can get to the real thing without being the real thing.
But, back to what I was saying regarding the Post-Columbine procedures, If you are alone, you do it alone. If their are others present, you work as a team.
It was found that waiting, like in Columbine, resulted in too much loss of life.
When I only knew of Peterson’s inaction, my thought was cowardice. Now that we know more and that there were 3 more deputies waiting outside, I can’t help but wonder if there were specific, unofficial orders given.
Perhaps I’m getting paranoid in my old age.
“No policy violation apparent.”
There was willful repetitive blindness.
By so-called “peer counselors” and “mental health counselors”, none of whom, I am 100% sure, have more than a B.A. in psychology or social work, if that.
They are as useful as tits on a boar.
Now that we know more and that there were 3 more deputies waiting outside, I can’t help but wonder if there were specific, unofficial orders given.
Some of us had personal divine revelations (Or flash gut insights), that the internet rumor about Benghazi was true: Stand Down, let them die. This was during the month it happened, not a year later.
No evidence at the time of course… but it felt true. And low and behold, it was true!
If they had gotten all the witnesses killed, It Would Have Been Accepted As another conspiracy. HRC’s narrative that some video maker provoked the attack, would have been accepted as status quo fact by the gullible American public.
Such is not the case in most places anymore.
I wonder what changed.
Frog:
You may be 100% sure, but I am 90% sure you are 100% wrong.
I’ll tell you why. “Peer counselors” are ordinarily fellow students (that’s where the “peer” comes in), so in this case they would likely be high school students at the same school. So they wouldn’t even have a BA They usually are chosen because they are really mature and student leaders in some way, good at listening to their fellow students, and receive a bit of guidance from the counseling department as to how to do that. They are not given much responsibility, they merely are fellow students that a troubled student can feel comfortable talking to, and then if the peer counselors think something’s really wrong they call it to the attention of the school counselor.
School counselors, on the other hand (as opposed to peer counselors or aides) ordinarily have degrees at the Master’s level, and they are usually licensed by the state as well and have to jump through some hoops for that. Each state is different, but as far as I know it’s pretty standard for it to be a Master’s level position.
For example, in Florida, here are the requirements.
None of this, of course, means that any particular counselor is competent. Some are very good, some are not, and there’s just about everything in-between.
The person doing the evaluation of Cruz to decide whether to involuntarily commit him, however, would be someone else. I’m not sure what their credentials would be, but according to the article I quoted the person would be “a professional from the mental health facility.” That would ordinarily be at least Master’s level, too, but not necessarily.
Thanks for commenting J.J. Aircraft accident investigators and their mission are the best!
To J.J.’s point, I don’t think the average armed teacher is going to run down hallways and do room clearing with a handgun. But if that armed teacher is behind cover with students and a shooter enters the room, then the moment is upon you.
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Breitbart relays from CNN news about the arrival of the two Coral Springs PD officers. It seems that other people had witnessed the interaction between the PD officers and the 6 deputies, including two deputies that had arrived with the CS cops.
As the two cops and two newly arrived deputies organized quickly to enter the building, the CS cops were “stunned and upset” that the original 4 deputies had done nothing and were refusing to enter the building with the other 4.
We may never know, but it seems likely that there was some serious failure of leadership at Broward County Sheriff’s Dept.
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With the possible exceptions of Cruz’s adoptive mother and the Sheriff’s dept., I think the school sup. and principal are the most to blame. The LE community can’t do much until someone presses charges. All kinds of important processes begin with the charge.
I wonder if the parents of the boy that fought with Cruz at school could have pressed charges without the permission of the school. Cruz was known to have sold knives out of his lunchbox at school. Many lower level crimes were being committed.
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The sheriff’s dept. has claimed that they didn’t now where Cruz was in the school because of a unknown 20 min. delay security video feed. But there must have been dozens of cell phone calls into 911 relaying current info.
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Another thought. There are primary/secondary schools in Texas that have been armed for years, and surprisingly the same is true of Northern California, at least until very recently. It had been at the discretion of the superintendent.
There is the whole ball of wax concerning federal law creating gun free schools, a U.S. supreme court decision finding it unconstitutional, and rewriting & passing of a new version. Too complex for me.
How many total armed school years have there been? What percentage of all schools is that? And are there any school shootings at armed schools?
I’d like to think the Parkland football coach, Aaron Feis, who died shielding students with his body, might have made even more of a difference if he had been carrying a gun that day.
God bless you, Mr. Feis.
I don’t think it takes much of an expert to see the totality of failure. It’s a textbook case of failure. It should be listed in the dictionary under failure. It fails so much it’s painful to read about. If I wrote a story about a town where no one can see a tornado on a clear day approaching and making noise like a freight train, it would probably be more believable.
Something is wrong with this county. They had four people on the scene that didn’t go in. They only go in when Police from Coral Springs show up? What gives?
I have two theories:
1. Their culture/training sucked.
2. They knew/saw Peterson not going in an copied him.
In the end, it really has to theory 1. But I could see people showing up the scene and letting the people already on the scene influence their behavior, especially if their training sucks.
This whole episode is just one big reminder that government working is the exception, not the rule.
There is no easy solution. Personally, I find myself very sympathetic to the the proposals Republicans are making in the legislature.
There is a Canadian tv show called ‘19-2’ which is a drama about Montreal police patrol officers. They did an episode where they responded to an active shooter situation in a high school and it played out in real time with the terror and confusion of both the students and the cops very well shown.
One of the best dramatizations of this scenario I’ve ever seen.
@Griffin Do you mean this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhplhhnvPQs
Wow! The French one is completely different. I guess Bravo remade the English one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTu7qeRO0hw
Frog’s elitism with his retired doctor credential, looking down at the bachelors and what not, isn’t my cup of whatever.
After all, how do people become PhDs without becoming bachelors?
The retired old vets are supposed to husband and raise up the new gen, not act like entitled bitter vets… although I suppose retired doctors have a lot to be better about after O care screwed em.
This American nationalist elitism that leads to insane asylums to produce more experimental subjects that the Deep State can work on (Mengele, Operation Paperclip), isn’t a good idea. The idea that the elites and self proclaimed experts know better than us… just look at Israel’s comment that the Lions (LEOs) don’t get backtalk from the sheep (you human livestock they farm).
It will all end badly. Then again, I already wrote that after 2007, with my endless refrain of “Civil War 2 is inevitable”.
huxley Says:
February 25th, 2018 at 12:11 am
I’d like to think the Parkland football coach, Aaron Feis, who died shielding students with his body, might have made even more of a difference if he had been carrying a gun that day.
If he had received my level of training, even unarmed he would have had at least 50/50 chances of terminating the threat before the police even got the ballz to take one step into the den of the “sheep”.
But we got to lay down on the ground and Obey the Police, whenever they tell us to jump, because else they’ll shoot us in the head. Rule of Law and all that.
Let me see if I understand this. With the total failures of numerous government factions surrounding this shooting, many still expect me to surrender my weapons with the pledge to protect me? Not going to happen in this lifetime folks.
PS: I know most are only talking about restricting the AR-15, but that’s a first step. Liberals are well known for their slippery slope approach to governing.
Dexiansheng,
Yes that is exactly what I meant and yes apparently the show was an English language remake of a French Canadian show which also did the school shooter episode.
I would strongly suggest that people watch that first link provided by dexiansheng at 2:11 am. It’s not for the faint of heart but it is 13 minutes of one continuous uninterrupted take that I think does an amazing job of conveying what that situation must be like.
Very disturbing but incredibly well done.
This case stands out because so many children were shot and because the shooter had been pointed out many times to authorities beforehand. However, a similar case last November, the Rancho Tehama school shooting in California, had some of the same problems.
That shooter had not only a history of mental problems but had actually stabbed a neighbor, been arrested, and was out on bail awaiting trial. He was required to surrender any weapons, but the Tehama County Sheriff’s Dept. had not followed through to assure that happened, even though there were numerous calls to police from neighbors who witnessed him shooting rifles. They also responded a number of times when he threatened his neighbors, but not once did they bother to get a warrant and search his house for the weapons.
When he finally broke, he killied his wife and put the body under floorboards, then went next door and killed the complaining neighbors, then took off down the road killing passersby while heading to the elementary school to kill one of the neighbor’s sons and as many other children as possible. Fortunately the teachers at the school were alerted in time and locked the place down. The police totally dropped the ball here, and as yet are not being held to account.
And they want us to depend on them for safety? A cynical view is that they enjoy playing cop, get to dress up in protective vests with those neat assault toys, but the actual work of preventing crime? That’s work. It’s much more fun to have a day out at the shooting range practicing for the events that they stand down from and allow to happen. And then call for more resources. Always more resources – and overtime – and full salary early retirement from all the stress. Because we need them, and they know it.
http://www.redding.com/story/news/2017/11/19/nightmare-continues-shooting-victim/879585001/
If the Coral Springs police hadn’t shown up at Parkland to find the Broward County officers hiding behind their cars, would we have heard about it?
Apparently the CS police had a different conception of their job. They didn’t shelter in the parking lot, but went straight into the school to protect and serve. From what I’ve read they were rather miffed with the Broward County LEOs.
The Other Chuck: Unfortunately from what I’m reading in newspaper articles and comment sections no matter how many ways the authorities screwed up, liberals persist in blaming guns and Trump.
In fact they tout the “School Resource Officer” who froze as proof that a “good guy with a gun” is useless.
I’m not sure this hasn’t been addressed directly – at least, I haven’t seen it. But I’m struck by the number of comments (here, there, everywhere) that seem to implicitly have expected heroism to magically appear in Parkland.
It doesn’t, you know. What’s worse is that we as a society seem to have make it much more difficult for heroism to manifest when needed. My next comment is out of place here, and I expect it to receive a lot of pushback and scorn. But I can’t help but wonder if more *male* teachers would have helped. They would have been expected to be more heroic, and maybe they would have been.
Joe:
You might be interested in taking a look at this.
But I’m struck by the number of comments (here, there, everywhere) that seem to implicitly have expected heroism to magically appear in Parkland.
Joe: We can argue the magic of it, but heroism did appear in Parkland — a football coach and a 15 year-old student, both unarmed, died putting the lives of others before their own.
If that’s not heroism, what is?
I’m not sure where I draw the line when it comes to LEOs risking their lives for civilians, but if that line means waiting outside behind a car until the gunfire stops while high school kids are being shot up, then when we need to have a conversation about that line.
Besides, supposedly that was settled after Columbine. Even the disgraceful Sheriff Israel knew something was wrong and couldn’t be buried when he saw the video of the “School Resource Officer” doing nothing during the Parkland massacre.
Huxley – I agree with you. Those two were heroic – there’s no doubt.
But I’m noting that the expectations are gendered. Many seem to expect it of men (as exemplified by the reaction to the perceived cowardice of Peterson) even as men are de-facto excluded from the schools’ teaching ranks.
It doesn’t look like “government” (as Peterson demonstrates) is capable of picked up that burden effectively either.
Joe:
If a woman is a police officer with a gun, we (at least I) expect it of her, as well. For example, we don’t know the gender of the other three police officers from Broward who waited with Peterson and didn’t go into the school. I suppose there are people who wouldn’t judge them as harshly if they are discovered to have been women, but I think they should be judged on the same standard.
Did you read the post I linked in my previous comment to you, by the way?
We’ve all been analyzing this one incident a lot lately, but let’s not overlook the principle that human stupidity in general will always lead to serious damages and consequences.
Just a couple weeks ago, I was stuck in traffic on I-295, witnessing the aftermath of a bad accident, with two cars totally wrecked. That situation was completely avoidable, had the driver not been stupid and careless. And while I watched, the fire & police departments did a couple of stupid things in dealing with the incident, as did a bunch of others who grew impatient with that traffic delay.
Just earlier this month, the stock market had a volatile flash-crash, with some people losing a lot of real money, all due to stupidity and greed.
And a little less than a year ago, some guy got dragged off a United Airlines flight, with not just injuries to himself, but also monetary damages (direct and indirect) to the airline business and to others, all due to stupid decisions by multiple people (including that particular passenger).
I’m sure that all of us can find many other examples of stupidity, carelessness, incompetence, and bad decision-making. This particular incident in Florida has generated a lot of hysteria and frenzy, perhaps due to the death toll, the location of the incident, and the youth of those involved. Yet more young people were killed and injured at the Ariana Grande concert bombing in Manchester, England, on May 22, 2017, an incident which seems to have already been forgotten.
Perhaps some see this an opportunity to push gun control and to politically damage President Trump, where other avenues for such have failed. I wonder if it has yet occurred to them that banning Muslims might prevent more violence than banning guns.
Courage doesn’t appear by magic. You cultivate it. I learned from bushido that you can not choose when to be brave. If you aren’t brave on the tatami mat (i.e. your own living room) you won’t be brave on the battlefield.
I recommend the Hagakure (“Hidden leaves” or “Hidden by Leaves”), Go Rin No Sho (“the Book of Five Rings”) and A Knight’s Own Book of Chivalry. In which you will find nothing you didn’t already know. Deep down.
http://musashi-miyamoto.com/gorin-no-sho.html
I’m not currently studying Japanese swordsmanship. I’m studying Armizare, or The Art of Arms in Italian. Because, I like garlic. Sword, dagger, and percussion and wrestling techniques. I may just finally settle on studying the Petty Officer’s Drillbook.
http://www.navyandmarine.org/cutlassmanual/1906cutlass.pdf
I noticed something important reading this thread, that is probably not recognized enough..
With 20 people running away, you can have one hero running towards danger. Might get killed before getting to do anything, or even 5 steps.
Those people really don’t get appreciated enough sometimes.
With 20 people running away, you can have one hero running towards danger. Might get killed before getting to do anything, or even 5 steps.
groundhog: Indeed.
Four minutes after Whitman began shooting from the tower, a history professor was the first to telephone the Austin Police Department, at 11:52 a.m.
Patrolman Billy Speed, one of the first officers to arrive, took refuge with a colleague behind a columned stone wall. Whitman shot through the six-inch space between the columns of the wall and killed Speed.
ttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Texas_tower_shooting
Ymar Sakar said:
“…more of a difference if he had been carrying a gun that day.
If he had received my level of training, even unarmed he would have had at least 50/50 chances of terminating the threat before the police even got the ballz to take one step into the den of the “sheep”.
But we got to lay down on the ground and Obey the Police, whenever they tell us to jump, because else they’ll shoot us in the head. Rule of Law and all that..”. Just tell me when to stop.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28a89XsWNQE
Lady don’t hurt me.
The entire picture is frustrating, disturbing, and anger-provoking.
That is probably the entire point of the ritual sacrifices in the US.
There might be another one, such as political influence or people control, but if they wanted to ban guns the DS would just create more Fast and Furious operations. Those are far more effective, assuming they are professional enough not to have everything leak into the net. The age old methods of disinformation and information propaganda control that Hoover, COINTELPRO, and KGB used, may not be all that effective given the eternal vigilance of the masses online.
To Joe, some of us aren’t expecting too much out of the LEOs, but we also don’t blame the LEOs on staff and in the field as much as others, our fellow civilians or super hero military vets and superior warriors do.
I think the spectrum is that the average civilian or US citizen feels some angst, but not too much given that this scenario is so alien and foreign to their experience. Nor do they trust the MSM, as they should have learned by now not to react to MSM “propaganda” (fake news even) and mind control. I think the outliers and extremes seem to be people like me on one end of the spectrum who empathize with everyone on the field (enemy, foe or neutral), and those like Dave sympathetic to the same on the other end of the spectrum. The outliers are also often more outraged because of the same reasons: duty and patriotic loyalty to the social contract.
Because we need them, and they know it.
Well, some Americans need them. Some Americans find them just a huge paperwork bother, wish they would just come in, clean up the body bags, and leave. Interfering with terminating criminals is a big problem when it is civilians vs police, because to the police, the civilians fighting back and the predators attacking all look the same : potential criminals that if looks threatening, needs to be neutralized to safeguard the blue allies. Being tazed is fine, Spec Ops can overcome that with chi or nerves or willpower. Being shot by a whole bunch of firing squad pistols and SWAT assault rifles because you “triggered” the military assassination conditioning of the police, like many previous events, isn’t such a good way to go. Waco 1, Waco 2, Ruby Ridge. Waco just loves killing a whole bunch of sub cultures that they don’t see as humans, and the rest of America cheers it on as “fighting crime”. When it is the turn of the rest, they cry police brutality instead…
Detroit is a pretty good example of security dynamics on whether police are needed. The police have basically withdrawn from the inner city areas, like French police did to Islamic Paris. But Detroit has gotten safer as a result because business owners hire private security. People online joked with or against me that this was like RoboCop. No, the private security, as I reviewed them, is much better at preventing harm and safeguarding or deterring crims. That is because unlike the police, they only need to protect and serve their clients. They aren’t on the offensive, roaming around trying to arrest people. Arresting people is an offensive operation, which requires good intel and coordination and resources. Just being there body guarding the local restaurant owner so that he doesn’t get jacked returning with his profit revenues, isn’t so hard. The Detroit criminals aren’t suicidal enough to take on armed or unarmed bodyguards anywhere. It’s why the rich and famous have armed security guards to begin with, while proclaiming that guns are dangerous. Of course guns are dangerous, the VIPs can be shot even with their VIP guard protection. But if their guards only have firearms while no one else does, the rest of the sheep in the US is just meat to be grilled… Hollywood can rape as many men and women as they want, no parents gonna go “shot gun” riding to the rescue, heh.
If a woman is a police officer with a gun, we (at least I) expect it of her, as well. For example, we don’t know the gender of the other three police officers from Broward who waited with Peterson and didn’t go into the school. I suppose there are people who wouldn’t judge them as harshly if they are discovered to have been women, but I think they should be judged on the same standard.
One of the people who shot and killed the shooters at Ft Hood 2 (yes there was a second one, the first one was by infamous Hasan, Hussein’s long lost no iD brother) was a woman MP or guard if I recall correctly.
Women, due to various strengths and weaknesses, usually end up on the other end of the gun, as in Ruby Ridge where FBI sociopath snipers killed the family.
In the pioneer days as well as the LDS exodus to Utah, women were equally armed with men. Even six year olds would have to be armed, as they ride to the school house x miles away, to prevent robbers and animals from getting the horse. Everyone would pack their firearms and hang it on the entrance to the school house, like a coat… apparently America wasn’t full of psychotic killers back then somehow…. even though it was.
The destruction of the legal and power equality between men and women came about due to territories accepting Statehood and adopting Eastern US (Maryland, District of Columbia, altars to the Roman goddess Liberty and Babylonian Ishtar, the Mother of Harlots, the goddess of sexual liberty, freedom, and victory) laws and customs.
Indeed, there appears to be “two Americas”, if not more than that. Western US territories gave women the vote, as pioneers knew better than that since settlements were created mostly by married couples. This was before any federal suffrage movement had upset the apple cart, such as Susan B Anthony. Some feminists came to Utah soon after 1857, and expected to find some Islamic paradise of poly amory and polygamy going on with harems and what not. They found a society far closer and superior to the equality of the plains and US pioneers, a foreign concept on the US eastern seaboard.
Sometimes against these snipers, one has to make a hard choice between concealment, cover (things that will block the enemy’s caliber of choice), and just running around hoping the enemy doesn’t know how to lead with the wind.
Apparently move and assault maneuver warfare is better against these snipers in towers shooting at civilians. Concealment will work for ambush purposes as well, especially in a school building as nobody knows who or what is in which classroom. The halls are just an open slaughtering field for range fire usually, as there is no concealment, no cover, and also restricted maneuver space for running laterally or 90 degrees.
However, even if a person gets under cover, they have the problem that the active predators will just move somewhere else, to a softer target that is not “hardened”. Then this solves the issue of one’s own security, but does not change the tactical scenario. The tactical options on the field are changed by destroying the enemy’s tactics, strategy, or logistics. Or in the classic sense, destroying their ability to fight or their will to fight.
Having sufficient intel would help anyone maneuvering in such an environment. If I was in such a scenario, I would like an app which provides a GPS map of the location, along with suspected locations of the enemy, and at what time mark they were last seen. The data source would be the students and teachers themselves filling it in, they should be familiar with that by now. This would provide significant superior opportunities to maneuver to the flank and create ambush zones for the predators. Hunter hunting the prey, which leads the hunter into an ambush against a larger and stronger predator than the hunter.
The Far East organizes schools based upon hierarchy, because the society is extremely hierarchical and often times rigid like a military culture. The US is not like that, of course, but they do like snapping pictures with their smartphones and putting it online…
Compared to getting 20 minute late “surveillance” footage from unreliable sources on the tactical conditions of the building… internet works better. CCTV cameras weren’t put there to prevent crimes. They were put there so people could spy on people getting jacked by criminals and use that to propel the prosecution forward. Had little to nothing to do with preventing crime. They are a very good resource for hand to hand training, as it provides us with the classic “criminal sneak attack” profiles and ambush profiles, but as for preventing a crime… best not to think about that.
GB’s link to the door stoppers, reminds me that some survivalist preppers talked about using doorstops to prevent a door from being rammed down. Those must be it.
Regular survivalists have training and experience in protecting their own homes, so they have at least some idea of how that applies to a larger building. It’s easier just to kill people as they try to come in the door, but nobody is awake 24/7. Even elite SWAT teams have busted down a door or room, and got shot/killed by a surprised, panicked, civilian with a gun that thought some mafia death squad was going to get him. Course, the rest of his SWAT buddies not going to let that go, so usually the civilian ends up dead as a result of counter fire. No Knock and no Warning raids, if you don’t have anything to be guilty of, you shouldn’t look afraid!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqlVL26jrCA
So, no, apparently you don’t need a police force that you can’t train or disobey… Americans need a police force that works for the civilians, and not civilians that obey the police force.
True to leftist form, they’re going to scapegoat Pederson so Israel doesn’t have to resign. The Buck Never Stops At Great Leader.
Steve57 Says:
February 25th, 2018 at 10:25 pm
I may just finally settle on studying the Petty Officer’s Drillbook.
http://www.navyandmarine.org/cutlassmanual/1906cutlass.pdf
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Ah, the good old days….
For those raising the question of Women and Defense, here is a recent clip you might like to see.
The ladies make some errors in judgement, but their overall policy is sound:
We win, they lose.
https://libertyunyielding.com/2018/02/25/not-going-victims-mother-daughter-pair-makes-armed-stand-liquor-store/
The robber struggled for the mother’s gun while the daughter put a few well-placed shots into the man. The women left the store as the robber fell to the ground behind the register.
Another scenario where the “All Mighty Gun” in the USA somehow got into face hugging, grappling, and melee bashing range.
Happens more than people want to imagine. (I don’t need hand to hand skills, I got my gun)
Heh
Also if you want to rob people behind a counter, the counter is your protection from certain people that will fight back. That means don’t do them the favor of going around it and getting in their face with your 12 gauge. Because if you do, you had better blow their faces and heads off.
Too many weak looking humans in this world pretending not to be assassins.
On the flip side of the board, if they are pointing a gun at you, the closer they get to you, the better it is for you.
Look at Aesop’s video, the older age woman mom is doing that “let’s wrestle over the gun” game with the black guy. Wow. Really dangerous since she didn’t do the TFT fall trick. Good thing she had backup, as the black guy actually got the gun and started “wielding” it like some kind of torch the ghettoes use to get high off of.
Also the M1911 guys sometimes tell me “what you need a Desert Eagle .50 caliber for, it’s a hand cannon”.
Well… some people need killing with a hand cannon, especially since it is nice to turn people’s cover into more fragments to shred them with.
Oh you think this 3 foot wooden block is going to cover you from the bullets? Maybe 9mm, try out this higher caliber boomer.
Response: But it only holds a few in the mag due to the huge round size, and with the recoil you can’t easily tap multiple targets.
The good thing about a heavy object that is out of ammo, is that it can be used to hit people in the temple and eye with, thus causing what is known as “grievous bodily injuries”, which is crippling not lethal. There’s no drawbacks!
The only real drawback is that carrying around heavy objects in a satchel requires endurance.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLMUtS78ZxryOMRve8RkM0vcrIKPH3hGvW
HEMA (historical european martial arts) is the reverse engineering of techniques for war, using manuals from dead schools.