Do you plan to watch the SOTU speech tonight?
I’m going to try, although regular readers of this blog know that I’m not fond of political speeches at all.
This one could be very interesting, though. The Congressional audience reaction could be a big part of the story.
Nancy Pelosi has reportedly told the Democratic contingent to behave:
Pelosi (D-Calif.) delivered the message to the House Democratic Caucus at their weekly private meeting Tuesday morning.
“Let the attention be on his slobbering self,” Pelosi told members, according to two sources in the room. “If you want to walk out, don’t come in.”
I’ve heard Trump described in many pejorative ways. I’ve certainly criticized him myself, too. But “slobbering” isn’t one of the words that usually comes to mind.
to let saliva or liquid run from the mouth; slaver; drivel.
to indulge in mawkish sentimentality:
Is she trying to say that Trump actually drools? Like this?
Because really, he’s not been known for sentimentality, mawkish or otherwise.
I think Mrs. Pelosi is guilty of projection. I have seen more slobbering and drooling from her recently than from Trump.
Nope, not going to watch. Saw enough of Trump during the debates and I doubt if he’s learned much since then. Not being Hillary is a pretty low bar to clear. Our country deserves better.
No. Wish we could go back to the old system where the president sends a written state of the union to congress. Giving a stupid meaningless speech is not required and has not always been the tradition.
we dont have to
just ask these NYU students… (a syster college)
NYU Students Respond to SOTU Before It Is Given
Campus Reform headed to New York University to ask students their opinions of President Trump’s State of the Union. The only problem for them was that the speech would not take place for another seven days…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0ByWdt5iFQ
Forget pre-crime..
We gots pre-anything where the left tells the future before it happens by thinking it happened before it does.
arfldgrs,
As the old joke about the Soviet Union went ‘the future is known it’s the past that keeps changing’.
This is in many ways the motto of the left today (think climate change).
So those students fit in perfectly. They already know what is going to happen!
The networks are going to broadcast it?
I will be maintaining my 40+ year boycott of SOTU speeches tonight. Most likely I will watch an episode of ‘Stranger Things’ and then the third period of the Bruins / Ducks hockey game.
I’m with Griffin – no time in my calendar for stupid meaningless speeches.
Pelosi is so crass, what did she have to say about her to tongue tied Obama? “Uh, uh, uh, well ya ah,ah”
So delighted not to be subjected to THAT anymore .
She is over 80, can’t this harpie get lost.
KLSmith Says: Our country deserves better.
first president and first westerner to eat and be inside the forbidden palace – causing the people to love him. no one, not nixon, not anyone, is allowed there since the fall and rise of communism, and before that mostly too
Passage of the tax reform bill providing $5.5 billion in cuts, and lowering the unemplyment rate for blacks to the lowest it has ever been on record – since 1972
[and he didnt spend 20 trillion of your money]
Increase of the GDP above 3 percent.
[for all of Obama years, it was the lowest of any sitting president EVA]
Creation of 1.7 million new jobs, cutting unemployment to 4.1 percent.
[salaries are going up, bonuses given. even I got my first raise in 13 years… and a bonus… and more.. ]
Dow Jones reach record highs
So did the other averages
[so your not going to have to pay a lot in taxes for all the old people who are retiring and will drain the bank if they dont have their own]
ebound in economic confidence to a 17-year high
[yeah that sucks. bring back nihilisitic moribund, so much better]
executive order to boost apprenticeships
[yeah, so those poor people can earn a trade]
boost computer sciences in Education Department programs
[cause better science and computer courses are evil]
rioritizing women-owned businesses for some $500 million in SBA loans.
[i disagree with this one, as everything at the SBA is for owmen and minorities… you get squat if your white male]
Executive Order demanding that two regulations be killed for every new one created
[yeah, that will make them think about what they need to do and if its really necessary]
15 congressional regulatory cuts.
[bet you know nothing about those]
Executive Order cutting the time for infrastructure permit approvals.
[yay, dont have to wait for bridges to collapse.. after all, it took almost two decades to do the freedom tower, but its embarassing to say how long it took for the old towers or even the empire state building]
Made good on his campaign promise to withdraw from the Trans-Pacific Partnership.
[and that was a point of winning different than hillary, not just not hillary]
Opened up the North American Free Trade Agreement for talks to better the deal for the U.S
[cause the one that destroyed business here in favor of the reconquistadors who now are having grenade fights and almost in civil war, didnt really work for de black folk, the resident others either]
Toyota, Mazda, Broadcom Limited, and Foxconn announced plans to open U.S. plants.
[and many other companies are coming back for the first time in 20 years… too many to list… ]
Made enforcement of U.S. trade laws, especially those that involve national security, a priority.
[yeah, thats bad… doesnt he know we cant be equal unless the chinese and russians have our military secrets, and economic stuff too?]
opened plans to lease 77 million acres in the Gulf of Mexico for oil and gas drilling.
[maybe the reason we were running out of oil and no one could do anything was that they jacked the artificial price of oil to over 150 a barrel. when the free market took it back it went to 40… now stabilizing.. bet you really really wanted $10 a gallon gas to go with the $15 salary you got fired for… ]
Stopped the Environmental Protection Agency Clean Power Plan.
[cause compared to norilsk nickel and china, its a farce… ]
reforming chain migration…
[cause replacing the white women who didnt have babies will result in a solid votor base like argentina or even Venezuela, where lawyers were made equal with prostitutes and often doing the same work now. mexico been violating treaties deporting them after they arrive… you didnt know about that treaty?]
“catch and release” of illegal immigrants who commit crimes and are wanted ended.. [funny, but if you were a citizen and did a crime, you went to jail, but if you were an immigrant, you got released]
Removed 36 percent more criminal gang members than in fiscal 2016
[any of them neighbors of yours?]
Started the end of the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrival program. Ditto for other amnesty programs like Deferred Action for Parents of Americans.
[and other stuff that even the immigrants in my family realized it would kill their chances even though they worked hard to get here following the rules]
Cracking down on some 300 sanctuary cities
[who decided to insert themselves into federal powers and then deny federal govt under the constitution had no power… this took the states rights idea and turned into what it was in soviet russia. delegated power to councils in each area that had supreme power]
100 new immigration judges
[cause there werent enough to adjucicate and so, we were letting people go given the time they were held.. neat trick. eh?]
grants of $98 million to fund 802 new cops
[thats horrid too]
Justice worked with Central American nations to arrest and charge 4,000 MS-13 members
[like the ones that beat those long island kids to death cause they didnt want to join. or the ones doing push in robberies in cities.. or my favorite, how they are known for dismembering and leaving parts around]
rounded up nearly 800 MS-13 members, an 83 percent one-year increase.
[if you want, i can send the members a letter and they can stay at your house]
three executive orders aimed at cracking down on international criminal organizations.
[another evil thing for people who do evil and want it]
nominated 73 federal judges and won his nomination of Neil Gorsuch to the Supreme Court.
[yeah, cause he and hillary are the same… and putting up a great supreme court judge is what only a non hillary nothing wodl do… right?]
Ordered ethical standards including a lobbying ban
[talked about, and finally done. i bet you LOVE lobbyists and all that stuff… but lke the weather…]
Called for a comprehensive plan to reorganize the executive branch
Ordered an overhaul to modernize the digital government
Called for a full audit of the Pentagon and its spending
[i like this one… but why dont you?]
declared a Nationwide Public Health Emergency on opioids.
Trump reinstated and expanded the Mexico City Policy that blocks some $9 billion in foreign aid being used for abortions [bingo, found what you dont like]
Worked with Congress on a bill overturning a regulation that blocked states from defunding abortion providers. [so once they were created they were perpetual!!! nothing like forever being in the code]
Signed the Veterans Accountability and Whistleblower Protection Act to allow senior officials in the Department of Veterans Affairs to fire failing employees and establish safeguards to protect whistleblowers [your not a veteran and hate soldiers. if you are and dont, then your nuts for not wanting this and something other than hillary. think bernie would do this?]
Signed the Veterans Appeals Improvement and Modernization Act.
Signed the Harry W. Colmery Veterans Educational Assistance Act, to provide support.
Signed the VA Choice and Quality Employment Act of 2017 to authorize $2.1 billion in additional funds for the Veterans Choice Program
Created a VA hotline
With VA Secretary Dr. David Shulkin, announced three initiatives to expand access to healthcare for veterans using telehealth technology
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rebuilding of the military and ordered a new national strategy and nuclear posture review
Worked to increase defense spending [because we were denuded so far, other countries are now standing up and daring us… the weaker you are the more likely they are to try to take what you have]
Empowered military leaders to “seize the initiative and win,” reducing the need for a White House sign off on every mission [ie. destroyed the brain trusts that have been costing america not only its goals, bt its wars and its kids and more… ]
Directed the revival of the National Space Council to develop space war strategies [because china and russia have them and fielded them in violation of treaties. but russia had 8 peace treaties with latvia before they invaded!!]
Elevated U.S. Cyber Command into a major warfighting command.
[cause hearing a dead noise for pacman when yoru firing a missile is bad]
Withdrew from the U.N. Global Compact on Migration, which Trump saw as a threat to borders. [cause it was, and why does the UN rule americans?]
Saw ISIS lose virtually all of its territory
[showing that obama and dems were purposefully throwing the game for gain!!!!!!!!!!!!!]
Pushed for strong action against global outlaw North Korea and its development of nuclear weapons
[funny, but you havent heard much? why? well the left dont want you to know that north and south are talking and that the north and south may compete together not against each other in the next olympics]
Prevented subsequent chemical attacks by announcing a plan to detect them better and warned of future strikes if they were used
Ordered new sanctions on the dictatorship in Venezuela
[obama hugged them, and helped make that communist dictatorship… a new one.. and you want what?]
Trump won the release of Americans held abroad, often using his personal relationships with world leaders.
[not only did hillary and obama and others abandoned them, they even abandoned our own people in benghazi and even in the war against isis, by hamstringing (As they did in vietnam too)]
Made good on a campaign promise to recognize Jerusalem as the capital of Israel. [which is what any nazi would do for the jews… after all, it was FDR that signed the camps over to stalin to keep using!!! it was FDR who sent the jews back on the boat… and more… so a nazi doing that is completely expected, right?]
there is TONS more.
but with 90%-95% negative coverage
how would you know to think otherwise?
As the old joke about the Soviet Union went ‘the future is known it’s the past that keeps changing’.
“Communism was a humour-producing machine. Its economic theories and system of repression created inherently funny situations. There were jokes under fascism and the Nazis too, but those systems did not create an absurd, laugh-a-minute reality like communism.”
[even that is the same about the left now here today]
Close
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“The future is known–it’s always bright–but the past keeps changing.”
but these are translations so there are quite a few / the shorer they are the more clever they sound
‘The future is bright. The past is unpredictable.’
suggested not read:
Julius Martov / The Ideology of “Sovietism” (1919)
the soviet State structure — said to be a phase in the progressive abolition of the State itself in its role as an instrument of social oppression — is the historically motivated product of a long evolution, arising in the midst of class antagonisms when these have reached great acuteness under imperialism. It is described as the perfect embodiment of the dictatorship of the proletariat. Appearing at a time when “bourgeois” democracy is said to have lost all content, the soviet régime is pictured as the perfect expression of real democracy.
hey! thats today
and thats what progressive means under the surface
Soviet phraseology, or Sovietisms
An initial surge of intentional word coinage appeared immediately after the October Revolution. The declared goal of Bolshevik was “to abolish the capitalist state with all its means of oppression“.
so the whole thing now with metoo, and such is just that…soviets abolishing oppression, they even SAY so.
we are that far along, but why would anyone care we are so close… we think four years is enough to do what?
for those that REALLY want to learn
read or dont read:
LTI — Lingua Tertii Imperii: Notizbuch eines Philologen (1947) is a book by Victor Klemperer, Professor of Literature at the Dresden University of Technology.
you learn a lot about Schleierwé¶rter
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KL Smith must have been asleep the past year; because I think more positive things happened than in the first year of any Presidency within memory–and I do remember RR.
Most on this forum have acknowledged that Trump is often his own worst enemy in terms of public persona. On the other hand, many of us have learned to look beyond his flaws; or to at least put him into context with the behavior of other powerful or high profile people who tended to get a pass. Obama and Biden uttering the F word into an open mic for instance.
To answer Neo’s question. I don’t know. I really would rather just read the transcript; but, my wife will be glued to the TV, and I will take abuse if I am not there as well. Too old to take abuse. So it will be a question of whether it is more painful to watch the Dimocrat histrionics, or to experience the disapproval of the person closest to me.
By the way, if you want to know the term for what the left does in terms of facts, twisting, etc… and how they know right and wrong and so on…
there is a clear precident, but only if you know details
Welt
as in Weltanschauung, “intuition/view of the world”
This was quite a rare, specific and cultured term before the Third Reich, but became an everyday word.
It came to designate the instinctive understanding of complex geo-political problems by the Nazis, which allowed them to openly begin invasions, twist facts or violate human rights, in the name of a higher ideal and in accordance to their theory of the world.
see? we are the same..
we just dont think so
like willi said
never let them know these ideas are not theirs
the lucky people bursting into soviets are expected to have passed — at least ideologically — the stage of bourgeois democracy. They are expected to have freed themselves from a number of noxious illusions — parliamentarism, the need for a universal, direct, equal and secret ballot, the need of liberty of the press, etc. Only then can they know the supreme perfection incorporated in the soviet State structure. In practice, however, nations here and there, possessed by the metaphysical negation of the course traced by soviet theory, jump over the prescribed stages. Soviets are the perfect form of the State. They are the magic wand by which all inequalities, all misery, may be suppressed. Having once learned about soviets, who would consent to suffer the yoke of less perfect systems of government? Having once tasted the sweet, who would choose to continue to live, on bitterness? – Julius Martov
whats not to like?
Julius Martov = Doe, lol
I’ll be surprised if there are no acts of incivility.
I’d tune in, if I was confident that Trump would unload full bore on the dems and RINOs but I’m not, so I won’t.
Even with my old eyes, I can read a transcript in less time than it takes me to listen to listen to a speech — and I can stop reading to check points that seem dubious to me, as I read.
That kind of checking is especially important when the speeches are made by pathological liars like Trump, or habitual liars like Obama.
(If you are looking for a challenge, you might want to see how many falsehoods you can spot in Trump’s speech, and then compare your list to one by a professional, for example, Gleen Kessler.)
Amadeus (above) nailed it, right out of the box. Projection. ‘Cause you know with all that botox she drools.
Great list, Art.
the left tells the future before it happens by thinking it happened before it does
Yes, selectively, opportunistically, congruently. Consider the Pro-Choice religious/moral philosophy, where conception precedes choice (not Choice).
Can we live blog here?
I haven’t reviewed comments but I BET somebody will shout “You Lie” to a) provoke Trump b) get back at Republicans for Obama’s lie called out during the SOTU
Will there be an anti-fa parade a la inauguration?
It’s ironic that the left invited, demanded foreign oversight with Obama’s election. When it was, in fact, they, who needed to curb their diversity (i.e. missing the trees for the forest) and violence.
Now that I’ve read the comments.
Look I’ve commented here off and on since 2004. I’m not FOR an orator like Obama because while he was a Marxist to his core and somehow made some people believe he was a centrist – he didn’t fool Neo, myself and millions of others who are conservative, I HONESTLY really wish that Trump was more articulate.
Trump because he is inarticulate digs his own little graves. His Mexican comments were interpreted differently by two groups of people because he said it so inarticulately. His Charlottesville comments as well. And don’t get me started on his war on Twitter against Heidi Klum and Heidi (another one I can’t remember).
I WILL watch the SOTU as I haven’t missed one since my political awakening in 1991. I evolved into a conservative because I heard talk radio and went to the library 3 times a week in 1991 to figure out what the hell.
While I acknowledge the good that Trump has done (see Art’s list), he is assuredly not going to be persuasive tonight because he is simply inarticulate and his speech writers aren’t able to dig his own holes he has created.
If I were his speech writers, I’d grab that shovel and take head on each of the BIG blunders and say – here is the Trump comment and let’s dissect each sentence syntax and show why each one is TRUE and REAL. And anyone who argues otherwise is truly the racist purist idealogue who is uninterested in a healthy America.
Maybe that would be a bad tactic. It seems like Trump is just letting the heat stay on him to deflect
No and not ever to answer the question. Except for theater, I never listen to speeches.
I watched a few of RR’s SOTU and GWB’s 1st SOTU. Otherwise I read the transcript if I am interested. Mostly, I see it as something to avoid.
Art,
Yes, thank you for that eye opening list.
Thank you Art for a great list of facts. I rarely watch political speeches and will not be watching this one. My husband does watch them. I read the transcripts and the commentary (having heard my husband’s first).
If the Repubs don’t lose the House and Senate in Nov, I might re-evaluate my opinion of Trump. We’ll see.
I expect chaos. Dems will walk out. Boo him. Heckle him. TDS to the max.
Be my guest.
How is Trump doing? I cancelled my cable so I have no way of knowing.
He s OK. Got a good welcome on entering
Acknowledgment of Scalesi from La. Well received.
He had 2 black couples applauded. as they had each lost a child to MS13. Genius move, dems have to stand for these parents.Trump acknowledged military, dems had to stand for that too. Nothing from the dreamers Nancy brought. Don’t even know where they are !!!
I put a new thread up for the speech itself.
MSN had made me nervous that he d have tomatoes thrown at him. Lol. Not the case. They are coming around everyone appreciates a Padrone. ( trying to use the Spanish word for a strong father figure) I guess that’s how it’s spelled.
I quit watching speeches in real time because, golly (cue Gomer Pyle), everybody sounds good when they talk, even GWB and Obama, because it’s a formal scripted occasion.
I quit watching the “post speech commentary” because I kept throwing things at the TV and shouting, “Did you even watch the same speech I did!?!”
The transcripts are the only way to go, and preferably the full ones, because the commenting pundits twist things both verbally and in print.