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  1. There was a big blizzard in South Dakota 3-5 years ago. Lots of dead cattle. No MSM coverage. And, of course, many infamous blizzards on the Great Plains. People getting lost and froze to death walking to the barn.

    History is more than one’s own lifetime.

  2. These things are always going to be hard to compare. For the reasons you stated death tolls will never be the same as the past storms such as Galveston. But the financial damage is far greater now because so much more development has taken place in danger zones.

    Wind speed or just plain energy would be a good way to judge but that gets harder the further back you go as the data is almost certainly less reliable and climate and meteorological types have no qualms in changing past data to fit their needs.

  3. There was a 1939 hurricane in Newport Beach CA that was described in a local sailing rag twenty years ago. The writer had been a teenager crewing on John Ford’s big schooner as a summer job. Aboard were several movie stars and Ford’s professional skipper who looked at the sky and diagnosed a hurricane. They were at Catalina at the time and the Newport Beach entrance was too hazardous to try to run for home. They rode out the storm between Catalina and San Clemente Island just southwest. The movie stars made sandwiches and waited on the teenaged crewmen and they all survived quite well.

    Video from the storm.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZl6-xYtZZg

  4. But the New England storm of 1938–whether it made that list or not–was no slouch in the fatalities department and is said to have killed about 700 people…

    A family friend recently wrote a biography of her father, which includes some information on the 1938 hurricane in New England. The author, who was only 5 years old at the time of the hurricane, still remembers the screeching and howling of the hurricane. Following is a summary of the 1938 hurricane.

    Their house was 40-45 miles inland. Even at 40-45 miles inland, there was a smell of salt spray in the air. The salt spray stripped deciduous trees of their leaves. The salt spray turned conifers brown. The amount of salt in the wind would vary throughout the storm- and after the storm. Even two weeks after the storm, the wind would deposit salt on window panes.

    A hurricane in 1815 also had salt spray damage at a similar distance inland.

    A maple tree, an estimated 4 feet in diameter, got blown down. Her father, in the “if you have lemons make lemonade” mode, made use of all the trees on the property that the hurricane had blown down. He built a log cabin out of the felled trees!

  5. The breathless hyping of this storm and the last few reminds me of the short sardonic review of the “Nouveau Beaujolais” by a French critic:

    “The Wine of the Century as usual.”

  6. Weather. Big ratings jump for the Weather Channel. Here in Portland, Oregon we had the Columbus Day Storm of 1960 or so, which knocked over the apricot tree in our backyard, but I was too young for it to mean that much. I do remember walking around the next day and seeing all the fallen trees.

    I guess these days it would be called the Indigenous Species and Squirrel Storm or maybe just Vertical Features Bend Sideways Event #12.

  7. Where I come from (NYC, plus a summer house on Long Island), that 1938 storm is referred to as the “Long Island Express.” I had never even heard it described as a New England event.

  8. y81
    I had never even heard it described as a New England event.

    Nor did New England residents refer to it as a New York event.

  9. From Wikipedia:

    “The Great Galveston Hurricane[1], known regionally as the Great Storm of 1900 [2][3][4], was a Category 4 storm, with winds of up to 145 mph (233 km/h), which made landfall on September 8, 1900, in Galveston, Texas, in the United States. It killed 6,000 to 12,000 people, making it the deadliest natural disaster in U.S. history.”

    Note the great uncertainty about the death toll.

  10. I was in Tulum in 2012 and many people mentioned that the area was still recovering from Hurricane Wilma, which devastated the Yucaté¡n peninsula in 2005:

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Wilma

    We stayed in a newer house, across from the beach, that had walls of very thick masonry. It was basically a concrete bunker, albeit a very beautiful one. They are accustomed to hurricanes in the Caribbean, of course, but Wilma was one for the record books.

  11. September 8, 1900: A long-lived tropical cyclone trekked across the Caribbean and moved over Cuba. On September 4, the Galveston office of the U.S. Weather Bureau began receiving warnings from the Bureau’s central office in Washington, D.C., that a tropical storm had moved northward over Cuba. The Weather Bureau forecasters had little way of knowing where the storm exactly was, and referenced climatology, preferring a storm track towards the middle Gulf coast. Conditions in the Gulf of Mexico were ripe for further strengthening of the storm. The Gulf had seen little cloud cover for several weeks, and the seas were as warm as bathwater, according to one report. The hurricane moved west-northwest towards the Texas coast. The last train to reach Galveston left Houston on the morning of the September 8 at 9:45 a.m. It found the tracks washed out, and passengers were forced to transfer to a relief train on parallel tracks to complete their journey. Even then, debris on the track kept the train’s progress at a crawl. As the hurricane neared, conditions in Texas deteriorated, and residents just thought it was a thunderstorm. When the hurricane made landfall, it was of category four intensity. It destroyed the city of Galveston, and led to the rise of Houston. Although damage was significant across Galveston Island, the human toll was higher. The death toll is estimated to lie between 8,000-12,000.

    Galveston — wiki.

    The entire town was wiped clean from the map.

  12. y81:

    At the link I gave, it says: “Also called the Long Island Express, the Great New England Hurricane of 1938 was the most destructive storm to strike the region in the 20th century.”

  13. My dad remembers the great New England hurricane of 1938, when he was six years old. When the wind began rolling in, he was playing outside his home in the Old Harbor housing project in South Boston. He recalls being picked up by the fierce wind and blown hard against a chain link fence that ran between the housing project and railroad tracks. His mother was terrified of course, and he remembers her screaming his name (Jackie) before she was able to pull him inside to ride out the storm safely. He just celebrated his 85th birthday.

  14. In 1960 Hurricane Donna killed 13 people in Florida when the population was ~5 mil. I was there in Florida in Donna’s eye when she hit.

    Today the Florida population is over 20 mil. and maybe 8 people have died in the US.

    It’s apples and oranges, of course, but all this “worst hurricane’ needs some historical context.

  15. When the hurricane of ’38 struck, my father was at football practice at Norwich [CT] Free Academy. When it started to get bad, the coach said to keep your gear on and go help people.
    My grandfather ran a Mohican grocery store. They had an arrangement with the local militia to start baking bread as fast as they could, with whomever happened to be there.
    It scoured off various coastal settlements which, due to the Depression and war, were never rebuilt.

  16. In William Manchester’s book, “The Glory and the Dream”, he has an interesting recollection of the ’38 NE hurricane. IIRC, he attributes some of the lack of notoriety for that storm to the other event occurring in Europe at the same time, Hitler’s threat to invade Czechoslovakia, which led to the Munich agreement and Chamberlain’s infamous “peace in our time” speech.

  17. On a more personal note, my father-in-law who was a student at Trinity University (Hartford, CT) at the time, told us a few stories about what he saw as he traveled to school that year from Philadelphia.

  18. “1780 was an especially bad year in terms of hurricanes. It certainly wasn’t due to AGW, but what might have been the cause?”

    Trump. Or Bush. Gotta be one or the other.

  19. We visited Galveston often while living in South Texas. The city was built up by trucking in fill dirt to raise the streets one entire floor. You could tour the old mansions where the front door now opened into what had been the second floor, then go down into the “basement” that had originally been at ground level.
    Kind of spooky.

    This is an amazing picture, for context.
    And shows how big America is.
    Europeans don’t have a clue.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/comments/6yux6a/size_of_hurricane_irma_vs_europe/?st=J7CQYTAU&sh=03827f36

  20. There are still historical markers beside Rte 13 in Concord about the Hurricane of ’38, and most people of my parents’ generation had a story to tell about it, including the flooding after. It caught people by surprise, which magnified its psychological impact.

    As for 1780, that was when the Little Ice Age was drawing to a close, so someone is going to claim that it was due to global warming.

  21. There’s an excellent book about the Galveston hurricane, Isaac’s Storm. I live on the Gulf coast and read it during hurricane season. Not necessarily the best idea but I guess it gave the book some extra power.

  22. Just for kicks I checked what the 1938 storm did at Mt. Washington, known for high winds anyway. 163 mph and messed up the cog railway. Bad, but well off its record of 231 mph.

  23. The Galveston 1900 storm produced a double whammy of a storm surge. Not only did it force the Gulf onto the island, it also filled and eventually over ran the island from Galveston Bay.

    Smarter people had urged Galveston to build a seawall in 15 or so years before 1900, after the 1886 Indianola storm. Indianola had been the second largest port in Texas, after Galveston, but was abandoned after two devastating storms in 1875 and 1886. They got the message: get out.

  24. I believe the lower casualty rate in more recent hurricanes has a lot more to do with better technology, both the ability to evacuate and to connect to the masses, than it does with any issues involving the warming of the atmosphere, an indisputable fact according to the meteorological community.

  25. Agnes is the storm I heard about growing up in PA. Happened in 1972. It didn’t even make the list?

    In the state of Pennsylvania, more than 68,000 homes and 3,000 businesses were destroyed. Due to the destroyed houses, at least 220,000 people were left homeless.[40] The damage and death toll was the highest in Pennsylvania, with 50 fatalities and $2.3 billion in losses in that state alone.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Agnes#Pennsylvania

  26. Yes, that’s true. One of the things that makes Isaac’s Storm a gripping read is the fact that the people of Galveston didn’t know what was coming. They had some warning, but not that much, and no idea that it was going to be that bad. If you’ve been through a hurricane, and try to imagine what it would have been like to see the early signs without having any idea of what to expect, and then things getting worse, and worse, and worse….

    I’ve heard stories of people on the Mississippi Gulf coast not taking the warnings about Camille seriously enough, having hurricane parties in multi-story apartment buildings of which nothing but the foundations remained afterwards. [shudder]

  27. Surellin:

    New Hampshire, especially the northern part (where Mt. Washington is), was affected by the storm a lot less than more southern parts of New England and Long Island.

  28. Gosh, we did not have weather satellites in 1900, or even 1938, or 1969 for Camille. Whose fault is that? Who failed- F-A-I-L-E-D -to warn residents in these storm’ paths?

    I remember Camille. It caused torrential flooding and the deaths of more than a few in the Blue Ridge Mtns, who lived and had lived close to small mountain brooks as their water supply for two-three centuries. Something like 20″ fell on Nelson County, VA in short order, deemed the highest possible rate of rainfall at the time. In the night.

  29. “Something like 20″ fell on Nelson County, VA in short order, deemed the highest possible rate of rainfall at the time. In the night.”

    On a smaller scale, but just as devastating, are the river floods that result from unprecedented rainfall like this (sometimes abetted by broken dams).
    On the micro-scale, all good campers know not to pitch their tents in or near a “dry” riverbed.

  30. Galveston was a biggie.

    While not all that big, an interesting hurricane from yesteryear was the New York hurricane of 1893. Purportedly a Cat 1 it mostly erased the barrier island called Hog Island near Rockaway Beach.

    It had a small development of beach resort business operations and was a favorite getaway for Tammany Hall politicians.

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