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  1. Saw this guy on TV for the first time today along with his fugitive slave claim. My first thought was that all illegal aliens should move to his city. My second thought was that this analogy will probably work for a great number on the Left; that’s how crazy they are.

  2. They’ve lost touch with reality and given their ideological blinders, I’m highly doubtful of their ability to regain their sanity. The question is how far society will allow itself to be drawn down the rabbit hole? Given that half of America voted for Obama twice and then presented us with the choice between Hillary and Trump… I am not hopeful.

  3. Marxism is all about victimization. All good leftists are against war, poverty and injustice and believe these are problems the government can solve. The socialists (Marxists) claim they can create heaven on earth. You just need the right people in charge to create the socialist paradise.

  4. “All good leftists are against war, poverty and injustice” Ray

    That’s true of the idealistic ‘Trotskyites’ who are always shocked when the Stalinists show up…

  5. “I often think of that exchange about genocide when I hear these present-day analogies, and I think what’s operating here is the same thing that was operating with my friend.”

    Hyperbolic victimology is all in vogue.

    Sure the left uses it often (more?).

    But does anyone remember the “Flight 93 Election” analogy from last summer?

    Here is a reminder…

    “How have the last two decades worked out for you, personally? If you’re a member or fellow-traveler of the Davos class, chances are: pretty well.

    If you haven’t noticed, our side has been losing consistently since 1988.

    Because the deck is stacked overwhelmingly against us.

    The junta of course craves cheaper and more docile labor. It also seeks to legitimize, and deflect unwanted attention from, its wealth and power by pretending that its open borders stance is a form of noblesse oblige

    Nearly all the gains of the last 20 years have accrued to the junta anyway.

    The level of unity America enjoyed before the bipartisan junta took over can never be restored.

    It would, at this point, be better for the nation to divide up more equitably a slightly smaller pie than to add one extra slice–only to ensure that it and eight of the other nine go first to the government and its rentiers, and the rest to the same four industries and 200 families.

    The election of 2016 is a test–in my view, the final test–of whether there is any virté¹ left in what used to be the core of the American nation.”

    http://www.claremont.org/crb/basicpage/the-flight-93-election/

    So, yes, we can point to the left – it is a tactic that works – it riles up the base.
    .

    Yet, the tide seems to have turned and we must recognize it is not only the left playing this game.

    Many on the “right” have clearly adopted the very same playbook. They look to rile up their base to be angry and feel a victim, or for a victim.

    Problem is, it creates a challenge for us to navigate the truth…

    “And above all: where to find anything even approximating the truth? It’s like panning for gold in a river that has little or no precious metal left, even of the gold dust variety.” – Neo
    http://neoneocon.com/2017/03/27/here-comes-your-19th-nervous-breakdown/

    …when so much becomes a hyperbolized story and we “otherize” someone to blame.

  6. Ray Says:
    April 3rd, 2017 at 4:36 pm
    Marxism is all about victimization. All good leftists are against war, poverty and injustice and believe these are problems the government can solve. The socialists (Marxists) claim they can create heaven on earth. You just need the right people in charge to create the socialist paradise.
    * * *
    “We are the Folk Song Army.
    Everyone of us cares.
    We all hate poverty, war, and injustice,
    Unlike the rest of you squares.”

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yygMhtNQJ9M

  7. “Jones declaimed “we want poems that kill,” which coincided with the rise of armed self-defense and slogans such as “Arm yourself or harm yourself” that promoted confrontation with the white power structure.”
    * * *
    I would be interesting to trace a connection between this statement and the crying of the SJWs about “hurtful words” that force them to run riot to keep from hearing someone say the things they don’t want to hear.

  8. [Personism] was founded by me after lunch with LeRoi Jones on August 27, 1959, a day in which I was in love with someone (not Roi, by the way, a blond). I went back to work and wrote a poem for this person. While I was writing it I was realizing that if I wanted to I could use the telephone instead of writing the poem, and so Personism was born. It’s a very exciting movement which will undoubtedly have lots of adherents. It puts the poem squarely between the poet and the person, Lucky Pierre style, and the poem is correspondingly gratified. The poem is at last between two persons instead of two pages. In all modesty, I confess that it may be the death of literature as we know it. While I have certain regrets, I am still glad I got there before Alain Robbe-Grillet did.

    –Frank O’Hara, “Personism: A Manifesto”
    https://genius.com/Frank-ohara-personism-a-manifesto-annotated

    This excerpt from Frank O’Hara’s tongue-in-cheek manifesto was my introduction to LeRoi Jones back in my young poet days. I looked up LeRoi Jones in some anthologies and was disappointed to discover Jones was not nearly as wonderful a poet as O’Hara.

    Suffice it to say, the Beat and New York School poets treated LeRoi Jones well.

    The manifesto is a hoot and worth reading in its entirety. It’s only nine paragraphs long.

  9. “Frank O’Hara, “Personism: A Manifesto”

    @huxley – thanks for the link

    “What can we expect from Personism? … Everything, but we won’t get it. It is too new, too vital a movement to promise anything. “

    This part resonated this recent election.

    Also, interesting timing of that Genius post – almost precisely one month before trump’s announcement.

  10. Big Maq: Glad you enjoyed the O’Hara piece!

    O’Hara was an interesting fellow. In addition to being a poet, he was an associate curator at the Museum of Modern Art in the sixties and something of a beloved celebrity in the New York art and poetry scenes.

    He died relatively young, 40, hit by a dune buggy on Fire Island.

  11. I have no idea how far the Ras Baraka acorn falls from the parental tree, or how many of these views of the father the son shares today. But my guess is that dad had a pretty big influence on him.

    I heard of Ras Baraka a year or two ago and connected the dots to LeRoi Jones as neo did.

    I am reminded of Ta-Nahesi Coates, the author of the bitter book-length diatribe against White America, “Between the World and Me,” which was written in the form of a letter to his son.

    And Coates’s father had been a Black Panther, who taught Ta-Nahesi much the same.

    I don’t know how blacks go beyond the victim narrative when so many are so eager to pass their victimology on to their children like a precious family heirloom.

    It is to weep.

  12. What the heck. Here’s a famous O’Hara poem which is a tribute to the black jazz singer, Billie Holiday, who was known as “Lady Day.”

    =============================
    The Day Lady Died

    It is 12:20 in New York a Friday
    three days after Bastille day, yes
    it is 1959 and I go get a shoeshine
    because I will get off the 4:19 in Easthampton
    at 7:15 and then go straight to dinner
    and I don’t know the people who will feed me

    I walk up the muggy street beginning to sun
    and have a hamburger and a malted and buy
    an ugly NEW WORLD WRITING to see what the poets
    in Ghana are doing these days
    I go on to the bank
    and Miss Stillwagon (first name Linda I once heard)
    doesn’t even look up my balance for once in her life
    and in the GOLDEN GRIFFIN I get a little Verlaine
    for Patsy with drawings by Bonnard although I do
    think of Hesiod, trans. Richmond Lattimore or
    Brendan Behan’s new play or Le Balcon or Les Né¨gres
    of Genet, but I don’t, I stick with Verlaine
    after practically going to sleep with quandariness

    and for Mike I just stroll into the PARK LANE
    Liquor Store and ask for a bottle of Strega and
    then I go back where I came from to 6th Avenue
    and the tobacconist in the Ziegfeld Theatre and
    casually ask for a carton of Gauloises and a carton
    of Picayunes, and a NEW YORK POST with her face on it

    and I am sweating a lot by now and thinking of
    leaning on the john door in the 5 SPOT
    while she whispered a song along the keyboard
    to Mal Waldron and everyone and I stopped breathing

    –Frank O’Hara, 1959

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