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  1. Merkel saw what happened to Hillary and her response is way better. First demonize your opponent as alt-right. Then take the second and better step of a superficial and inconsequential burqua ban.

    But is Merkel sending anyone back home? I doubt it.

  2. Cornhead:

    From November 27 article: “In one of the most shocking flip-flops in recent political history, German Chancellor Angela Merkel now says she will deport about 10% of recently arrived migrants — 100,000 of them.”

  3. The fact is Ataté¼rk’s Mustafa Kemal Reforms to give a modern outlook.

    Ataté¼rk introduced many reforms: European hats replaced the fez; women stopped wearing the veil; all citizens took surnames; and the Islamic calendar gave way to the Western calendar.

    The social change by in Ataté¼rk’s Mustafa Kemal done with civil servants looks to bring or put the new state on the road for western look rather to built on more than three centuries of high achievement by his nation.

    You should remember a language change . In 1928, when he decided that the Arabic script, which had been used by the Turks for a thousand years, should be replaced with the Latin alphabet. By doing so the nation lost its hiratage after more than three centuries of high achievement of the Ottoman Empire

  4. The French ban was a reaction to girls not wearing headscarves being molested and sometimes raped on their way to and from school. The radicals then used this as a way to put pressure on their parents, many of whom were far from radical. This kind of thing can happen under the radar in enclaves.

    In Germany, you have a slightly different problem given the number of Turks who have lived here for decades. Most of these people were fairly well assimilated except in the enclaves in places like Cologne and Berlin. Not many people paid attention to what was happening there and that kids were not being sent to school and that arranged marriages were common. I think that since 9/11, people, especially in Merkel’s party have been trying to get a handle on what is happening. Certainly, their resistance to accepting Turkey into the EU was based on mistrust of allowing more Turks into the country. With the rise of Erdogan, the mistrust has risen, especially since his visit to Germany a few years ago when he told Turks not to assimilate.

    So basically, Merkel and co. are trying to tread a line between getting the Turkish residents to assimilate more and to protect the country. Rabid anti-Muslim rhetoric could tip the resident Turks into a more radical position.

    As far as I know, the AfD started out more as resistance to overwhelming EU socialistic overreach, but it as morphed into more of an anti-immigration party. So I’m not sure how much Merkel’s burqua ban is totally a reaction to the AfD.
    It could also be partially a response to radicals trying to use the burqua, which is not really a problem now, to try to make inroads into Muslim communities as happened in France. I think there is a whole lot going on. I do get POd at commenters on various blogs who pass judgement on Merkel and call her a East German socialist without knowing a thing about the situation. Merkel is one who tries to solve problems quietly and make deals. She doesn’t stand up loudly for an ideology. As I said when she was first elected, remember that she is chancellor of the Germans. She reflects the society that is composed of lots of do-gooders, activists, big business people, and ordinary people who want a normal life. She letss others raise ell and then tries to manage the situation.

  5. Two considerations applied to USA, too: 1) Anti-immigrant and anti-immigration are two different things. The first is attitude to people, and the second – to the government policy. One can be quite tolerant for individuals but object the policy disrupting communities. 2) Racism is motivation, and unless the person openly admits his racist views, it is impossible to ascribe him any motives without mind-reading. That makes this accusation impossible to refute.

  6. Naaah, she’s just doing what the Left *DOES* when people start threatening their various suzerainties: “Ohh, lookie over here at this SQUIRREL, the face-veil. I’ll address the SQUIRREL, while at the very same time I’ll not-so-gently remind the German people that they REALLY must do a better job of acclimating themselves to the “delicate sensibilities” of Our Peaceful Muslim Refugees.”

    The wholesale importation of hostile Third-Worlders will NOT cease, and will NOT be slowed down. The German MFMSM will just play up these little instances of The Globalists pretending to take their citizens’ concerns seriously as being “the dawn of a new direction”, but in actuality these ruthless and treasonous “Leaders” see the social chaos of competing client-tribes as their ONLY guarantee of cementing power.

    The Global Elitists of the world KNOW that the economic dominoes must fall; they just don’t know when or what the trigger will be. But they *DO* know they have to ALREADY be on-top and in-charge when it happens. And they will need a GUARANTEED source of internal terrorism to prevent social cohesion and cooperation from being the public response to the economic crisis.

    They await the inevitable “Save us, Obi-Wan,
    you’re our only hope” — and they’ll be quite happy to “temporarily” suspend civil rights and due process in order to maintain “public stability”. They KNOW there’s a Crisis coming (which they of course helped to arrange), and they darn-well intend to be the people managing and profiting from that crisis.

  7. Unfortunately, the only real way to make the refugee problem go away is to fix the countries that the refugees are coming from. We tried that in Iraq and Afghanistan. And any progress that was made under Bush was discarded by Obama for domestic political points. So, not happening.

    Further, a lot (I’m guessing most, actually) of the refugees are not coming from Syria, which is the current trouble spot. Michael Totten had an article several months ago that pointed out that the “taharush” thing (did I spell that properly?), where a group of men encircle a woman and attempt to molest her, is a North Africa thing. It’s not something common to the Middle East (like Syria). So if the attacks are on the rise in Europe, that suggests that a lot of the “Syrian” refugees are not actually from Syria.

    Trying to fix the entirety of northern Africa isn’t realistic at this time.

  8. junior,
    People from North Africa have been flooding Greece and Italy for years. The EU did little to stop it, but te media reported regularly every time a boat full of people sank in the Mediterranean. It was known that people smugglers were involved, but little seemed to have been done to counter teir propaganda. Now we know that people have been told to throw away their IDs and claim to be from another country.
    I agree that we can’t fix NA at this time, but it sure wouldn’t hurt to do some straight talking and try to counter the propaganda being spread there.

  9. Europe has two options to stop the flood. Either immediately confine them behind guarded, tall, electrified fences before shipping them back or sink the boats out in open water.

  10. Recent passport photo shoot:

    Me: Remove glasses
    Mrs. Wayze: Remove earrings
    Woman behind us: Rearrange hair off forehead.

    Watcha think would happen if a woman in a burka showed up?

  11. Neo: “The issues are not simply religious, either–they are cultural too, and they also have security implications in a world in which Islamic terrorism is an important and dangerous phenomenon even in western nations.”

    The problem of Islam is that it is not simply a religion. It is a religion, political system (sharia law), and culture (modes of dress, rules for eating, facial hair for men, honor/shame practices, and more) all rolled up into one package. It’s central belief that Islam must convert (by any means necessary) or kill (by any means necessary) all infidels makes it a threat to any other culture, religion of government. Until the West gets this and begins to treat it as seriously as it is, we will continue top muddle along gradually submitting.

    The only way to combat this is to recognize that the jihadis and their supporters are as serious as a heart attack. We must expose their beliefs as dangerous and unacceptable to the West and its way of life.

    I have just finished reading “Enhanced Interrogation” by James Mitchell. The words of KSM, as reported by Dr. Mitchell, should be common knowledge among all citizens. KSM makes clear the goals of the jihadis and how they intend to accomplish them. We are engaged in an existential war to save our culture, our government, and our freedom of religion. Only by recognizing this and being willing to defend our way of life will we win this war. Wake up America!

  12. Merkel’s move seems too little, too late.

    Reminds me of the burkini bans in France last summer. The burqa, along with the veil are, as mentioned above, a way to identify who is a candidate for sexual assault. Also, one imagines that just as groups of immigrants attempted to enforce burkini-only rules on some beaches in Europe, so, too, will they start demanding (unoffially) head-covered or burka-clad women only, as is already done in some Muslim-concentrated neighborhoods (see: London sharia-enforcement gangs).

    Blogger Daniel Greenfield explained it well:
    http://sultanknish.blogspot.com/2016/08/why-burkini-ban-is-right.html

    Think the key is whether Merkel enforces this. She will be challenged, just as there were staged challenges to the burkini ban. Meanwhile, there are immigrant mobs that are enforcing there own rules in their new home. For example, I’m wondering how many women will be outdoors on New Year’s Even in Cologne unescorted, if at all.

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