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  1. In the Mid-sixties, I served with a man who survived Pearl Harbor. He was in the tower that controlled ships entering and leaving port. It sat atop a huge water tower in the inner harbor. Thus, he had a ring side seat to the whole mess.
    A humorous aside–if that isn’t too crass in describing a vignette that was part of that great tragedy. The signal tower had a particular flag hoist (how the old navy communicated) that signaled, “Air Attack”. In the confusion of the moment, no one remembered the correct flag sequence, so they just spelled out the word “Air Raid” with signal flags. I doubt that anyone noticed.

    Over the past couple of years, I have lost the last family members who served in WWII. They were all heroes to me.

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  3. I was on a destroyer home ported at Pearl Harbor in the late 1960s. My ship at the destroyer piers had a front row seat for the filming of TORA! TORA! TORA! Many Navy pilots took leave so they could fly in the movie. It paid a lot better than the Navy.

  4. “Over the past couple of years, I have lost the last family members who served in WWII. They were all heroes to me.”

    Yeah, funny how with the passage of time they actually come to seem heroic is a sense which is not at all grandiose, but which conveys a certain masculine seriousness of purpose, sense of duty, moral gravitas and a confidence without glumness or pessimism.

    These men had a clear sense of themselves and the world and right and wrong which no political figure or whining neurotic could intimidate out of them. They simply brushed that shit aside … as we should as well, I guess,

    My father, a kid who quit high school to, with his Dad’s permission, sign up in the last year, and served on DEs and cutters in the Atlantic, is, thank God, still with us. Though his older brother who was in France and at the Bulge passed away the summer before last. Returning, it was down to business. Finish school. On to college. Maybe the Bureau or some other agency or a corporation. Wife and kids. No whining

    I knew a couple of guys who had been on Iwo or Tarawa, and there was just a different and quiet quality about these fellows.

    You know, taken as a class, these men don’t pose. They are serious but generally good humored. They are not frivolous or petty They don’t swear up and down, and they are not easily deflected.

    I know plenty of somewhat older guys from the half generation just before mine who went to Nam, or were in the service in some other period, and they are just not the same category. Some are even … well there is no other word for it … punks.

    I think that the experience of the Depression and war, and the drive to settle and raise families after it, formed these older men in a way that made the very notion of them modeling themselves after characters in books or plays or movies or political figures, just too ridiculous to posit.

    I think that as a rule they were even better men than their fathers.

    They are naturally authentic in a way few men are nowadays.

    With Neo’s permission, from an largely inactive blog I once commented on.

    The guy on the Bofors is “the old man”; the soldier in the Paris street last image, his brother.

    A pilot friend of mine from a decade or so ago. On the right.

    Don’t ask who the guy on the left is …

  5. DNW,

    Thanks for the photographs. You are correct, my parents generation were of entirely different mettle than many in my generation, and nothing at all like today’s safe space snowflakes.

    Oldflyer,

    The last one in my family was my father in law who died 10/12/14. He was a PBY pilot in the pacific from New Guinea to Okinawa. All he would ever say was thank goodness for Truman and the atomic bomb. My father, 4 uncles, and 2 aunts served. Dad in North Africa and Italy, all my uncles in the Pacific campaign, and my aunts were nurses who were in France and Holland. Their generation came of age during the Great Depression and suffered the hardships and miseries of WW2 and as DNW notes came back and prospered through hard work and determination.

    RIP

  6. “I think that the experience of the Depression and war” – DNW

    Those in my family of that era, servicemen and not, were a whole lot more “sober” about life, and far less worried about the things that occupy people in successively greater amounts in generations since.

    Little things and family seemed to give them the greatest pleasure.

    Perhaps they were “scared straight” in a way, concentrating their minds on the fundamentals.

    A model we might well emulate and pass on to our younger generations.

    Anyway, horrible times those, and, hopefully , not to be repeated.

  7. neo-neocon Says:
    December 7th, 2016 at 9:45 pm

    DNW:

    Thank you for those.

    What kids your dad and uncle looked like then!

    You are welcome to “copy and save” any of the images for your files.

    You might, I expect, want to file the Dachau pictures, which so far as I know exist only as these prints which I have scanned; unless the soldier buddy who gave them to him had other copies made and kept the negatives. I don’t think that he was holding the camera when he went into Dachau. Used to mention the ovens.

    He was going to give them to a Holocaust museum which said they would be happy to have them; but I had them at the time, and after he died figured that the Holocaust museums of the world had all the snapshots they could ever use.

    He had an interesting photo of a German jet fighter in a field. He used to mention that military intelligence would often be right on their heels, and would have stopped some of the things they were doing. As in sawing pieces off of the plastic canopy of a jet [probably Me262] fighter.

    Most of these pics were unfortunately poorly exposed, and the developing overseas was probably haphazard. Lots of pictures of snowy townscapes and ruined buildings. I am surprised GIs in a war zone were able to get processing done at all.

  8. “parker Says:
    December 7th, 2016 at 10:24 pm

    … my parents generation were of entirely different mettle than many in my generation, and nothing at all like today’s safe space snowflakes.”

    [and]

    “Big Maq Says:
    December 8th, 2016 at 10:43 am

    “I think that the experience of the Depression and war” — DNW

    Those in my family of that era, servicemen and not, were a whole lot more “sober” about life, and far less worried about the things that occupy people in successively greater amounts in generations since.

    Little things and family seemed to give them the greatest pleasure.

    Perhaps they were “scared straight” in a way, concentrating their minds on the fundamentals.”

    Yeah, whatever it was, they were in many ways qualitatively different … in a positive sense.

    Let’s hope we can somehow emulate their best qualities without passing through the same cataclysmic experiential forges.

  9. @DNW – if you haven’t already, you might want to load them up on Amazon Photos (free), or elsewhere, just to back them up them online, and also share them if you like.

    I know I’d like to see them. No such photos, if they existed, were passed down in our family.

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