The rise of the New Yawkas
It was sometimes remarked that the Trump vs. Hillary campaign pitted New Yorker against New Yorker. And unlike Hillary, Trump is a real New Yorker, born and bred the city.
But the bipartisn New Yorker presence continues. Rudy Giuliani is being considered as Secretary of State, and he’s a native New Yorker too, one who spent his entire political life there.
And now Chuck Schumer has been selected by Democrats as their new minority leader in the Senate. He’s a New Yorker through and through.
And let’s not forget Bernie Sanders, who although a 60s transplant to Vermont was a Brooklynite till then.
It strikes me as odd, since until recently the political “wisdom” was that politicians from New York City didn’t appeal to the country at large. But a lot of that sort of “wisdom” turns out to be not so very wise.
Let’s hope we don’t end up with New York values.
Matt_SE:
Touche!
“the political “wisdom” was that politicians from New York City didn’t appeal to the country at large” – Neo
They still don’t.
But, like how a born and bred billionaire has anywhere close to any affinity with the condition of his voters, those folks are all too willing to believe the opposite of what they can see.
https://twitter.com/FrankLuntz/status/798939901001662464
My friends living in NYC are freaking out, (which seems to be the only permissible response to the entire election,) over Trump living in the Trump towers in NYC during the transition and possibly afterwards.
Besides outrage over traffic, among other things, they’re outraged that Trump makes NY a terrorist target (hello?) and the cost to taxpayers for protection.
What Big Mag said.
Trump did not direct his appeal to New Yorkers, nor to Angelenos or Chicgoans. He pitched his appeal to Fly Over Country people; and they responded despite, not because of, his roots.
Giulanani’s PR machine has built a reputation for being tough on crime. I accept that that is true; and that is his appeal for me, again, despite his roots.
Schumer has no appeal.
Off topic: I have wondered from time to time if other states have been as willing as New York to let rank outsiders skate in and capture plum political positions. First, it was RFK, and then HRC.
Esther, just curious; did said friends express the same level of outrage when W.J. Clinton established his post-Presidential office in Harlem, near his good friend Al Sharpton?
I credit djt with the Iowa state senate turning to a gop majority. He won Iowa by a hefty margin. Now we have a gop house, senate, and governor. Perhaps hrc and bho deserve a bit of credit also.
Oldflyer, I have no recollection of anyone I knew saying anything about it, maybe because Facebook didn’t exist?
One of my initial thoughts was that culturally Trump would be a tough sell in Iowa. His second place finish there told me plenty.
Donald Trump will be the seventh President from New York state, with the last having been FDR. After the Civil War, and then until just after WWI, most Presidents came from either New York or Ohio (Rutherford B. Hayes to Warren Harding).
In the country’s early years, Virginia brought forth the most Presidents, with a couple from Massachusetts. Tennessee provided three Presidents (Jackson, Polk, Andrew Johnson) in the 19th century, while three have come from Texas in the last 50 years (LBJ, Bush 41, Bush 43).
So far, the most Presidents have come from these states: VA, NY, and OH. As to exact numbers, that depends on how you count them, with some Presidents born in one place, but then moving to another. (And it seems only fair to count Grover Cleveland once for NY.)
I suspect that the Noo Yawkuhs that are most obnoxious to the rest of the country are the Noo Yawkuhs who migrated from flyover country, who apparently have a need to point out the alleged superiority of their new home to those sticks in the mud that stayed home in flyover country. Think David Letterman, who is from Indiana, or David Carr, who was from Minnesota.
The Wikipedia article on David Carr has no mention of this. Surprise, surprise.
I spent my freshman year at a University that had a lot of Noo Yawkuhs- yes most of them were Jewish- but most didn’t speak like that. I found them to be lively, interesting people. Fun to chew the fat with. Perhaps they thought it, but none of them showed to me any trace of an attitude that they thought New York was the center of the universe and that I was a dumb hick from hicksville.
IMHO, it’s the migrants to New York who are the obnoxious ones. When I was first getting to know New York, I would sometimes be down in the subway and not quite sure where I wanted to go. Invariably, a New Yorker would approach me and ask , “May I help you?”
A high school classmate who has spent decades in NYC is the poster grandfather [considering his age] for the obnoxious migrant to NYC. But he was a supercilious jerk when he was in high school, so it can’t be said that New York changed him.
If “trumpism” does come through in legislation (at least the parts involving big government programs, including social programs), and if trump were to be elected again for four more years of the same, I expect that the dems will turn more economically libertarian, free market oriented, to go along with its more social libertarian views.
The political “marketplace” cannot long live with two main players selling the same economic “solutions”.
Well, Bugs Bunny was fairly popular.
I’m surprised. No punch line.
We’re all New Yorkers now.
baddabing
Ah c’mon. You knew someone was going to have to.
Interesting article point. Though the most obvious counterpoint is that there were rumors that VP Elect Pence might take control of much of domestic policy, the most powerful VP ever. We’ll see if that happens, but he’s definitely a conservative fly-over country guy.
Also, I love Rudy. All of us informed folks know Rudy, but I recently got a better notion of him having watched a documentary about the old NY mob families and how “Donny Brasco,” Rudy, and others took them down. He is not from the mold of Tammany Hall or Alfonse D’Amato.