Election night
7:53 PM
We’re in the thick of it, folks.
How are you doing? I’m wishing I was a drinking woman, that’s how I’m doing.
Everything that was projected to be close is looking pretty close so far.
8:09 PM
I am extremely concerned that the Republicans hold the Senate. There hasn’t been any indication yet of how the close races are going.
8:14 PM
I had barely typed the sentence right above this one when I saw that Fox has called Florida for Rubio. Which to me is very good news.
8:27 PM
Young defeats Bayh in Indiana. This isn’t exactly a surprise—it was expected—but it was a reversal in that Bayh was initially expected to win.
8:48 PM
The closeness continues.
9:00 PM
I’m noticing that there are a number of states (for example, Florida) where a Republican senator has already been projected as the winner and yet Trump is neck-and-neck with Hillary and the outcome in the presidential race is still a toss-up. I’m also noticing, in the comments section of some pro-Trump blogs (such as Ace’s, for example), that many of those who support Trump but are feeling nervous about the possibilities of a Trump victory are already launching “stab-in-the-back” salvos at the NeverTrumpers. In other words, the present disparity between totals such as those for Rubio and those for Trump in Florida are blamed on betrayal from Republicans not voting for Trump. However, it could just as well be the result of Trump’s failure to appeal to independents. Or it could be due to Trump’s failure to reassure more people in his own party about his character, reliability, judgment, knowledge, and veracity.
9:08 PM
Looking at the Florida figures and their continued closeness, it occurs to me that the last thing we need is a repeat of Florida in 2000.
Then immediately after that it occurs to me that such an event might be a completely fitting cap to this crazy crazy election. It’s also congruent with the way the nation has seemed to be split so evenly and so bitterly for so many years.
It also occur to me that, so far, the polls have been within the margins of error, except for the Rubio vote, which was predicted to be closer. It’s still early, of course.
9:53 PM
Listening to Fox, I heard them say something curious: that no one expected it to be this close at this point.
Which makes me think: what??? Ever since the time of the Comey announcement, it became clear that it could become very very close, at this point or at any other point or even at the end point. In other words, that this one could turn out to be a squeaker.
Although I have continued to think Hillary more likely to win than Trump, any strong feeling I had about that evaporated around the time of Comey’s letter and was replaced by uncertainty. Apparently, the Fox newscasters didn’t share that uncertainty.
Virginia has just been called for Hillary Clinton. Not a real surprise.
The Fox people also were just discussing whether Trump could win the electoral vote and lose the popular vote. The answer is: of course he could, and this has long been discussed as a real possibility.
10:10 PM
Burr, Republican from North Carolina, wins his seat. That is an excellent sign, because this one was thought to be at risk.
10:26 PM
Fox just called Colorado for Hillary Clinton, and Ohio for Trump.
These were both hotly contested states, but both were leaning towards the people who eventually won them. So this is not what you’d call a surprise, nor does it really indicate the eventual winner (Romney won Ohio in 2012). But Ohio is a big big win for Trump; no question about it. Ohio was pretty much a necessary ingredient in a Trump win.
10:50 PM
Fox calls Wisconsin for Ron Johnson, beating Feingold. Another Republican victory in a race that was considered close.
North Carolina for Trump.
There can’t be a whole lot of joy in the Clinton camp right now. I think it’s going to come down to Florida. Deja vu?
10:55 PM
If Trump wins and the Senate remains Republican (the House is already projected to remain Republican, too), it would underscore how unhappy the country has become about the Obama years.
11:00 PM
I am starting a new thread.
Be glad you’re not! Spent the last couple of weeks trying to help an alcoholic sister. Heartbreaking. Anyway, my bet is it’s going to be an early night. So we have that going for us.
Cannot get livestream to run, but the background shows FL in blue – is this other’s projection?
Just refereshed screen on livestream and it now shows NC in blue.
And OHIO!
Are the other news orgs reporting the same?
Ah, the livestream is showing USA Today in the background:
http://www.usatoday.com/
Washington Post reporting the same
Ok, my poor old eyes… WP does better job of shading their map, those are indication of who is leading based on exit polls.
RCP has good graphics going on all the races – GOP lost Illinois (no shock there)
For anyone else stuck online who wants TV coverage – PBS is available here:
http://www.ustream.tv/pbsnewshour
The WORLD is watching:
Doonbeg locals rally round Donald Trump
http://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/doonbeg-locals-rally-round-donald-trump-1.2859877
T has 129 electoral votes
C has 97
neck and neck for senate
reuplicans 91 to 64 dems for house
Google Trends…
http://electionlandtrends.appspot.com/
Fully expect a lot of rock throwing by Trump believers if he loses. I did say if, and not when. Strange things happen.
Conway tweeted that it was a shame that the Republican establishment did not get behind him. That sounds like a loser talking.
Well, when you personally and publicly insult people like the Bush’s, I don’t know why you would expect them to Kowtow. He made despicable comments about both GW and Jeb. He was equally uncivil to many others in the so-called establishment.
Chickens do roost at home.
At this point I hope the man wins; but, if he does it will be pure luck in my opinion. He ran against the only person in politics who is held in lower esteem, and he ran at a time when the country is simply disgusted with the government we have.
If he doesn’t, it is because his own actions. He burned bridges with very people his crowd are now criticizing; he made too many “off the wall” statements that alienated wide swaths of the electorate.
Watching Fox Business Channel. I’ve always liked Cavuto and Dobbs. Very laid back. The futures markets are down US market is down 500 points and the Asian markets are down big also.
Shows the nervousness with how Trump is doing at this point.
Trump will be good for main st., not so much for the multinationals at wall st. I thought about selling some today after the market was up Monday, anticipating a Hillary win.
Mrs parker decided to escape to the bed and read, I just opened a bottle of Spainish tempranillo and started paying close attention to the msm coverage. I think I will finish the bottle over the next couple of hours.
IMO exit polls are of little value. Exit polls in 2004 were wrong and John Kerry did not become the 44th president. Will check back later to read comments as the results are revealed.
Brian E,
If djt wins I will buy the dip, if hrc wins I will sell on the rally. 2017-18 will not be kind to equities here and around the globe. Trust me. 😉
@Art – Need to add 74 ecv for CA, OR, WA to clintons, unless they become toss up now (OR’s 7 are closest to this).
129 to (97 + 74) = 171
Can’t watch, listen. Was in car this afternoon & radio was on just long enough to hear an HRC talking head exclaim how confident they are because the citizens want continuation of the great growing economy we’ve had for last 8 yrs..
Radio off.
Can’t fig. out if I’m so depressed be uz I think HRC is going to win despite the mountains of evidence that she bears no goodwill to American people but rather her ambition stems from a limitless core of greed and thirst for power and there’s no doubt she intends to fulfill both for her benefit only. (if that benefits others, fine. If not, tough.)
Alternative reason: US voters either do not understand anything, are naiive and trusting with the most duplicitous charlatan politicians, are just plain stupid, or actually want the chaos, divisiveness and end of respect for law and order and freedom that has distinguished us as the leading country in the world.
Surprise – 54% reporting (Senate) – Louisiana has 2 of the 4 Republicans winning with neither reaching 50% mandating a runoff in December. Thoughts were that the four GOP would be less than the two Democrats making that a pickup for the Dems.
If trump wins, do we still get to say that the election is rigged?
I now have trump at 284 ecv, if trump retains FL, NC, MI, WI, OH where he is now leading.
“If djt wins I will buy the dip, if hrc wins I will sell on the rally. 2017-18 will not be kind to equities here and around the globe. Trust me.” – Parker
You heard it hear first folks!
At my age I shouldn’t be buying any equities. It is very unnerving to be in the market to the extent I am.
I was listening to NPR on my way to Walmart just now and they had Ralph Reed on.
Evangelicals voted 85% for Trump in Florida, 88% in a state I didn’t catch, and said even Wisconsin, evangelical Christians voted 75% for Trump where they are about 16% of the population.
When asked why he said two words- Hillary Clinton. Her abortion position is untenable to anyone who is pro-life.
Johnson in Wisconsin was called the winner.
Just in. Stop the presses. Leahy carries Vermont.
WI and MI are the two states that are the biggest surprise as they were not in the toss up category in anyone’s forecast.
A little over 50% of votes are in and trump holds a slight lead.
Earlier in the day
Cornhead Says:
November 8th, 2016 at 1:21 pm
I am predicting a slim DJT win. He wins NC FL IA MI OH PA WI.
Enthusiasm makes the difference. The Republic is saved.
I was thinking the same thing, Neo.
If those thing play out, this is a repudiation of Obama’s unwillingness to even try and unite the country.
Well, it looks like Trump is going to do it.
Such an unprecedented year. To the Trump supporters in these threads, congratulations. I feel I owe it to you to admit how wrong I was., I was NeverTrump from the beginning and still stand by that, but I was certainly wrong in almost all my expectations.
The polls were wrong just like you said they were
The GOP looked weak with women, minorities, the young but either they weren’t or it didn’t matter
Cornhead, looks like you were right about the shy Trump voter
I hope I continue to be wrong in that I hope he is a much better president than I have predicted.
We won’t get to find out if the Republic ends with a Hillary victory!!
Finally, hopefully he will come through with good Supreme Court picks.
Enjoy the victory – I know we have gone hammer and tongs here on this site but I have definitely appreciated the back and forth. You deserve to revel in this one.
The Lord is sovereign over the affairs of men – I’ll continue looking to Him and hoping to see good in our time. God bless America!
“The Republic is saved.” – Cornhead
If trump does win, we are a loooooong way from that.
I would sincerely hope trump grows up quickly to the role he would then be taking.
If trump wins, my prediction is that all those who cheer will be very disappointed come 2020.
Cornhead you can then quote me at that election eve.
It’s the pits living on the west coast in a deep blue state. Not only does my vote not matter, I think they called the state for Hillary with about 1% of the votes counted! No drama either!
Big Maq,
If that’s the case, he’ll be a one-term president, which I think would be something he should consider even if he does survive the coming storms.
“Enthusiasm makes the difference.”
We will see just how much enthusiasm for trump has to do with it the net results vs a lack thereof for clinton.
Don’t take “historic” nominal numbers as proof, but percentage of voter eligibility vs prior elections – the population has increased in the last four years.
Bill:
On the polls.
Ever since the Comey announcement, the polls were only slightly for Clinton, but well within the margin of error. A toss-up in statistical terms.
The polls weren’t actually wrong, if Trump wins. The close states have been very close, within that margin of error.
Iowa, with 32% reporting, has hrc up by 2000+ votes. But the solid R areas have not reported as of now. Trump may get our ECV yet.
For me, djt’s only virtue was not being hrc. Hammering a stake into the clinton cabal is victory enough for at least a few days.
I look forward to bowing down to our trumpiam horde overlords. Well, no I do not, but it might be a good idea to stay under the team the donald’s radar. 😉
dems have only picked up one Senate seat so far
Ditto on everything Bill said at 11:12 pm.
“How are you doing? I’m wishing I was a drinking woman, that’s how I’m doing.”
Ditto.
Sometimes, it’s really hard to be a Mormon.
NYT is projecting with 95% certainty Trump with 302 electoral votes.
…that at 9:00P PST (so midnight in the east).
I’m breaking open a bottle of wine.
…its not over until the countin’ is done, and I’m still in disbelief (pleasant disbelief) …but it’s worth raisin’ the grape to at this point.
302 would be kind of good, right?
I dunno what the morning will bring, but I’ll sleep easier tonight.
parker, I applaud your choice of a Tempranillo. That’s all I wanted to say for now.