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  1. The NeverTrump faction failed because no high-profile Republican stepped forward to offer himself/herself as the replacement. While I think dumping Trump would make a loss certain in November, if you are going to push NeverTrump forward, you need to walk the walk. I am looking at you, Mitt Romney.

  2. Neo:
    “The first is that the NeverTrump movement is stillborn”

    Shortfall of activism in clearly an activist game preempted an otherwise realistic option.

    Yet even now, if they can rise above all their track record and muster sufficient activism in time to compete for real vs the Democrat-front Left and Trump-front alt-Right (plus GOP) in the 2016 general election, a 3rd option is doable. If not to win the 2016 general election, at least to set up the necessary means to forestall social political obsolescence and build up to compete for real.

    Yancey Ward:
    “The NeverTrump faction failed because no high-profile Republican stepped forward to offer himself/herself as the replacement.”

    That’s more buck-passing magical messiah rationalization for not competing. The necessary foundation piece has been the movement, before the man.

    Lacking a sufficient competitive social activist movement, which has primarily required conservatives to collectively choose their principles and their country above their personal aversion to activism, the candidate is moot.

    But apparently, conservatives value their personal aversion to activism above all else.

  3. Perhaps the Republicans should make sure there’s a line for “Generic Republican” in their primaries next time around. Hell, the Democrats might benefit from the trick as well.

  4. Choosing Pence to prove djt is actually a conservative disappoints me, I was hoping he would pick one of his registered democrat children.

  5. Eric:

    Since you’re apparently the expert on “activism”, why are you wasting time lecturing us and not out organizing the conservative movement to victory in November? Based on the outrageous amounts being paid to consultants who lead us to defeat every 4 years, you could be worth millions in a few months, and have the undying gratitude of approx 50% of the nation.

    Don’t tell us – show us – how it’s done.

  6. The suggestion that NeverTrump is dead is hubris. It doesn’t end with the official nomination. It goes all the way to election day. He’ll never get my vote (and he said he didn’t need it anyway. Hubris)

    #neverTrump

  7. Eric, you have it completely ass-backwards. Effective political movements need a leader. NeverTrump had a lot of pundits and nothing else. I wouldn’t trust that group to change the oil in my car.

  8. Bill,

    Amen.

    Yancy,

    I would not trust trumpians to rake leaves in my yard come November. 😉

  9. https://www.yahoo.com/news/cleveland-dazed-gop-marches-toward-000000623.html

    This describes well what is happening.

    Ultimately, to extend Yancy’s argument, there just is not enough prominent people who will stick their neck out to fill out an organized effort.

    It is like the wait and see argument. Everyone waits for everyone else to make a move, but since all are doing so, nobody moves. Nobody wants to risk the possible wrath by being a first mover, so they take the “safe” road of “reluctantly” supporting Trump.

    And this is where that thinking and behavior leads…
    http://theresurgent.com/yes-the-gop-would-support-hitler-against-hillary/

    It is rather hard not to think it wouldn’t, given everyone’s current reaction (including some of the comments I’ve read on this blog under various articles) and their paradigm blinder for a binary choice.

    We all seem bemoan the “choices” before us, but those choices are a reflection of all of us collectively.

    It doesn’t have to be that way – we don’t have to pick either Trump or Clinton. We can look past them.

    It is up to each of us. Our individual vote for one or the other gives them our personal stamp of “acceptable” over any other alternative.

    Are we waiting for everyone else to move, or are we going to look elsewhere because these two are unacceptable, and it is the right thing to do?

    If it was Hitler, as the linked article provocatively suggests, would you finally look past the binary choice, or would you, as it concludes, be stuck in that binary choice, still awaiting someone else to stick their neck out?

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