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  1. If you are going to kill the King, kill the King. Military should have killed Erdogan first thing. Idiots.

  2. “This is giving me an extremely creepy deja vu feeling that harks back to one of the earliest things Obama ever did as president, support the wrong side in Honduras. ”

    I recall thinking at the time that this was proof positive (if any were still needed) that Obama was a totally ideological socialist.
    However, in the immediate case, my first thought was of the day Obama stuck a knife into the Iranian rebellion by supporting the Ayatollah and his government.

  3. Cornhead Says:
    July 15th, 2016 at 11:03 pm
    If you are going to kill the King, kill the King. Military should have killed Erdogan first thing. Idiots.
    * * *
    Indeed.
    One has uneasy remembrances of the attempts on Hitler’s life that failed for lack of resolve (or desire to live on as his successor).

  4. And how disgraceful is Obama and the NYT.

    A shining city on a hill my ass. More like we support strongmen because. RWR spinning in his grave tonight.

  5. Cornhead, they couldn’t get to him.

    It’s that simple.

    &&&&

    No-one can doubt that our President would LOVE to stay in office past January 20th.

    It’s the way he rolls.

    Maybe George Soros financed riots at the Cleveland convention will do the trick.

    It’s obvious that Barry lusts for a full on race war — so that he can signal his virtue by cracking down on crackers.

  6. Blert

    He was out of the country. They should have done this when he was in town.

    *****

    And Obama says he was democratically elected. Yeah, like the way the Dems always win Chicago, but worse.

  7. Sometimes much blood must be set loose to flow like a river.The elephant in the room is when/if the time comes for rivers of blood in Europe and North America. It is beginning to look like a question of whether we in the West revolt or Islam weilds the sword.

  8. And Turkey allowed the ME refugees free passage into Europe.

    Europe will never recover. Reconquista.

  9. And how sick are we of these Islamist barbarians?

    What the hell is wrong with those people?

  10. Sidebar: News for Yahoos is now running a headline describing the Nice jihadi as engaging in road rage.

    I Kid You Not. Yahoo “News” has become a naked pleader for the Hard Left. Utter bilge.

  11. He was out of the country. They should have done this when he was in town.
    ——————–

    It’s a toss-up.

    If you go after him in the capitol, then you might take him out quickly and easily. But he’s also at his strongest, and surrounded by his defenders. If you wait until he’s not around, then you’re hoping that his supporters will freeze up (which is a legitimate concern in any organization that is led by a strong man) long enough for you to deal with them before he can attempt to return home and take charge. Evidently they gambled on the latter, and it appears that they have failed.

  12. Edward Luttwak wrote “Coup d’Etat: A Practical Handbook- A Brilliant Guide to Taking Over a Nation”. The coup planners should have bought a copy before they acted; around $14.00 on Amazon.

  13. US explicitly supported Erdogan.

    Of course, it was not expected to support the secular military. But SILENCE is a perfect option when there’s nothing good you can say. You could just say “we’re waiting to see the outcome”.

    You weren’t able to say shit about the 100 years of Armenian Genocide. You practiced silence then, but not now. It was great to say NOTHING about the hundredth anniversary of Armenian Genocide, but now, you needed to support Erdogan in an explicit way.

    So THANK YOU AMERICA for supporting radical Islam. Oh, you’re helping to make the world such a better place.

    At least there’s fucking karma in this world, and you’re gonna become soon a Third World country, a clone version of Mexico.

    Enjoy. I won’t cry about it.

  14. Only your reporting was worth reading. Only yours. Analysis and writing by my favorite go to place for perspective. Than you

  15. Hillary subscribes to this same example of “democracy”. Silencing your first amendment rights where criticism of her reign will not be welcomed.

  16. Neo. I went to bed last night saddened by the fact that the coup was failing, and this morning brings no hope. But, more to the point, what you have written here — this minor tour d’horizon taking us back to Honduras (I had forgotten that sorry mess) is precisely why we come to you day in and day out for analysis and perspective. I fear you are encouraging intellectual sloth on my part. I’ve always been pretty good at smelling rats and eventually getting to the right room in the house. But when I click on “Neo” I can depend on seeing the whole floor plan and the X marking the spot. You are a treasure.

  17. Obviously poorly planned but think how desperate the plotters must have been to attempt this. And they knew death or prison if they failed.

    What I don’t get is why they didn’t use overwhelming force. Should have killed top civilian leaders and leveled key government buildings right away. It looks like Erdogan’s call for the people to take the streets worked.

  18. There shouldn’t have been any need to kill Erdogan. In fact, killing him would have likely hurt the coup.

    Military coups are different in parts of the world that have experienced them before. It’s generally understood that they aren’t power grabs, but a reassertion of the natural order when a government has strayed too far from its course. A military coup should be perfuctory.

    The question is, why didn’t that work in this case? It could be that the most capable and authoritative military leaders are in prison or out of power.

  19. Ralph Kinney Bennett:

    Thanks so much! I appreciate it.

    But I wish there weren’t so many rats around to smell.

  20. I think it possible, even likely, that Erdogan staged the coup himself, or knew it was coming in advance and allowed the plotter so openly hang themselves.

    Literally, Erdogan couldn’t have come up with a more successful plan to concentrate and extend indefinitely his grip on power. All of his legitimate opposition is likely to end up in front of a firing squad now.

  21. Erd is competing for the Caliph title and will want to remake Turkey under Allah, submissive to Allah, in the Caliphate.

    One true Islam, means Sunni Islam.

  22. It was great to say NOTHING about the hundredth anniversary of Armenian Genocide, but now, you needed to support Erdogan in an explicit way.

    That’s what people get when they vote in Democrats and allow evil to take hold in the USA.

    As back in Civil War 1, Civil War 2 is also going to have similar issues.

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